The Good Book and Gay Marriage

Can a chicken give consent to marry? Im just asking...

Can a chicken give consent to marry?

Thank you very much to Mr. Bill Wylie-Kellerman for providing support to Ms. Miller in regards to her groundbreaking article on the bible and homosexuality. I think it is vitally important that views such as his, which espouse love and equality over obscure and out of date textual references, are heard in our society. The argument that some Christians use that they can love gay people while condemning their "sin" holds about as much water as a cheese grater. Citing the bible for obscure judgements on sexual behavior is the same as citing it for its rationale for slavery, racism, women's abuse, and a whole plethora of things that we don't use it to consider anymore. Most disturbing about Dr. Duke's argument is that societies do not or should not interpret the Bible, that what was written thousands of years ago is set in stone for Christianity. The foundation of modern American society, from the morals of our nation that have elected Mr. Barack Obama president to the technology that we're having this internet discussion on, has been built by people that have been considered heretical for one biblical reason or another. If people are so anxious to apply every literal tenant of the bible, I suggest they toss their computers out the window, stop watching TV, decline any advanced technology care in a hospital, don't eat anything that doesn't grow in their back yard and use their fireplaces for their central heating. All of these technological conveniences were born of heresy -

and If you're such a good Christian as to supposedly condemn one group of sinners, I suggest for consistency's sake that you condemn them all, historical and current.

If you're not so inclined to do that, you could try embracing gay marriage for what it really means - a bond of love between two people, as strong as any heterosexual bond. I think it's fairly safe to say that Jesus would be proud of anyone's loving commitment to a person, regardless of their naturally born sexuality.

~A college student

squirewestern, you shouldn't be surprised at know-nothingness being presented as news of import. Remember, this type of information is outcome based. The question is asked, "What do we desire as an outcome?" and an article written to promote it, scholarship be hanged.

I think it is a sin against intelligence to believe the bible is the actual word of god, but you don't see me trying to take away your right to be an idiot. The whole religious argument is beside the point. marriage is a governmental institution. By law the church and state are to be separated. Even if you believe what someone does is a sin, by law you still have to accept it. America is the land of the free. Churches are shooting themselves in the foot. The gays aren't going back in the closet, and the people who love and support them are not going to give in. Basically you can rejoice in your temporary victories, and then my generation can wait for you baby boomer's to die. America is built on the tradition of individual freedoms being expanded.

As proven in these posts, all world religions as creations of 'man' are embodiments of his/her guuilt/rage/desire/confusion - all a set of internal conflicts that cannot allow him/her to move from the lessons given from pieces of mythology (fables/folklore/The Bible/Koran/etc) to adulthood where living ethically hardly revolves around childrens' stories and is embedded in empathy for all, educated decision-making and a desire to see life be good for all people. Instead, all these people write in professing 'knowledge' of their God, of Jesus, of whatever spiritual entity it is that you are too naive to accept has a history of development far more complex than your ignorance and dependence can allow. I do not deny the existence of something grossly complex and magnificent in the beyond - but to attribute ourselves as significant to the grand workings of existence makes all of you far more sinful than a gay man's proclamation of love because you are pitiful in your own blind pride. The honest truth is that once you are done beating your wives, drinking to excess, passing judgment on others, misinforming your children (if you even pay attention to them), screwing your secretaries, shooting defenseless animals and cheating your taxes - you probably do need to apologize because to go to bed every night knowing that at your very barest, you are not interesting nor successful, not a good parent (as your children will remind themselves for many years to come), a barely acceptable worker and that history will eventually swallow you whole so that all remains is a checkmark on someone's hunt through the family tree - after all this, you need to feel better about yourself. That you are important, and history tells us that nothing is better for that (from The Bible to Mein Kampf) than the diminishment of an 'other', a population that you most certainly are not. Of course, these are the people Jesus celebrated in the good book, right? Prostitutes and thieves, outcasts and miscreants. Probably because they were far more interesting and (is this what you are afraid of?) worthy than you.

NIce try to get out of accepting the truth for fables however science fiction can not erase the truth. God made them male and female and he blessed them. If you really think sin can win against the rightiousness of God then enjoy the sci-fi world around before it crumbles. Sin is real and its wages are soon to be paid. Eternity will not be delayed. The Judgement is at hand. Love, truth,hope and peace await those who call on Jesus. Life and it more abundantly not money. Life or death. the choice is yours.

This "debate" concerning Gay Marriage and biblical inclusion has no validitiy unless you're debating the Author of the Bible. Otherwise, it's just two "human" view points. In order to fully understand the true meaning of God's intentions you have to be "Spirit led", giving way to obtaining a "servant's heart" as the Bible alludes to. As humans, we all love to parade our selfishness when we feel a "higher authority", in this case and most cases, is God's word and how He dictats that mankind, (which He created), will live a more fulfilled life. Mankind's "pride" in thinking "we" always know what's best has been and always will be the downfall of us, as it was in past generations. God's word doesn't force us to comply, but as is the case with all our chioces in life, we'll pay the price of our bad decisions and gather "rewards" for thinking out proper chioces and giving way to what God desires for us.

After communism fell, the right wing christians needed someone else to direct the nations hatred towards, and gays were the easiest target. You'lre probably tired of yet another blog posting on the issue, but here's mine:
http://www.halfbakedlunatic.com/post/2008/11/04/Same-Sex-Marriage-why-is-this-an-issue.aspx

Should have gotten a good Lutheran (LCMS) minister to back up the agument against gay relationships with scripture...