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  • Posted By: Jay dubbs @ 12/22/2008 2:47:06 PM

    As our nation continues to loose its moral fiber as we legitimize all of those things that have been immoral since the beginning of time. We might as well legalize murder so we can get that one out of the way too! I know that sounds crazy, but when do we as a nation, draw a line in the sand and say ???Enough is enough???? The sex trade in itself is degrading and invites those that would degrade others just by the nature of the trade. How can we regulate those that degrade others in a business that is degrading? For those in the trade, it sounds like working on your back is far easier than back breaking work. In my humble opinion, I???d have to say I???d rather walk tall with a broken back than to work on my back (or knees) and not be proud of what I do for a living.

  • Posted By: tntroofing @ 12/22/2008 1:36:01 PM

    I believe that if we're going to legalize sex we should it should be in a medical type of environment where there are doctors present there is two very good reasons for this 1. is definitely to protect the innocent from diseases and when I say the innocent I mean the two consenting adults and the adults that are affected by this consensual sex so both adults should be medically fit and 2, the other would be to help men and women with this addiction and unfortunately it should be treated as such sex is a very great thing amongst married people but outside of marriage it is most definitely a disorder and addiction just like any other drug for men and women alike

  • Posted By: james3006 @ 12/22/2008 12:57:19 PM

    A trade of service from two willing participants that harms no one else. The reason it is against the law is because we try to legislate morality, and because it would be difficult to tax. I think it should be legal, even if I would not buy the service. As far as those who think the cost of medical care would be a burden to the public, license them for medical checkups. I'm pretty sure they would police themselves considering the risks.

    • Posted By: matt23824 @ 12/22/2008 1:26:17 PM

      "A trade of service from two willing participants that harms no one else."
      You sure this harms no one else? I thought that the whole arguement behind legalization was that the prostitutes are victims and need help.

  • Posted By: mikesirish @ 12/22/2008 1:19:11 PM

    Legalizing the sex trade merely legitimizes an activity that, at its crux, demeans and degrades a human being. These individuals deserve better, and every effort and resource should be thrown into combating the sex trade in this country. We should not let this issue become yet another socially acceptable ???pastime??? because it required too much effort and time for our society to put forth. It is time to take the high ground on this one, not for ???violence reduction,??? not to save society???s moral fabric, and not for God, but simply because a human being deserves better.

  • Posted By: mikesirish @ 12/22/2008 1:18:14 PM

    Legalizing the sex trade merely legitimizes an activity that, at its crux, demeans and degrades a human being. These individuals deserve better, and every effort and resource should be thrown into combating the sex trade in this country. We should not let this issue become yet another socially acceptable ???pastime??? because it required too much effort and time for our society to put forth. It is time to take the high ground on this one, not for ???violence reduction,??? not to save society???s moral fabric, and not for God, but simply because a human being deserves better.

  • Posted By: matt23824 @ 12/22/2008 12:03:07 PM

    Everyone keeps mentioning that we should legalize it, make it a reputable occupation where the workers are taxed and tested. My question is: Should it be legalized, who's paying for the STD tests and all the workers in all the "whore test labs" or will they just clog up the free clinics even more? Will The taxpayers as a whole or just the members of that occupation be picking up the tab?

    If its coming from the whores themselves, will this actually be a deterrent from safe, legal prostitution?

  • Posted By: Livy333 @ 12/22/2008 11:47:04 AM

    Sex trumps everything. Millions of years of evolution has seen to that. 'Society', and everything that it entails is great but after eat, sleep, excrete and sex... everything else is background noise. I can hear it now.. "What about love?", "What about religion?", "What about knowledge, culture and learning?". These are all great and are what makes us human, but sex as a biological and social imperitive trumps them all (and also what makes us human). The next time there is an electrical blackout you wil find there is a bump in the number of babies born nine months later... its just a fact. No amount of laws or preaching wil change change the oldest of all professions.

  • Posted By: TwoSenseWorth @ 12/22/2008 10:59:45 AM

    Hey, it's not like they are asking for a bail out. With the economy the way it is the women working in the sex industry just might double, it may be the only work available.

    • Posted By: Brian33 @ 12/22/2008 11:45:15 AM

      Your right, the thing is, there are going to be much more "crime" increasing in the future. There have been some scholars who are predicting right now that America will become a undeveloped country in the next 3 years, and that Organized crime will flourish once again, similar to how it did in the "Depression" era times. You have to ask yourself, did anyone care about or talk about any of these issues that we are talking about right now during the last economic depression we had in the 1930's? The answer is a absolute no. After the soviet union fell shortly after the early 1990's, Organized crime flourshed. The russion mob was having a hay day and things like prostitution and child pornography became a multi BILLION dollar industry over night. The government was powerless to do anything about it do to their economic plight, and the only reaon why these industries were cracked down on in the eraly year 2000's was the fact that certain US organizations at the time had sent US dollars on a grand scale to fund the Russian government to crack down on these institutions. But the point being made, that when the economic situation goes down, and its looking that way right now, alot of these women out here who are upset about the prostituion issue, are going to get a rude awakening in the next year or so.

  • Posted By: jgholster @ 12/20/2008 5:28:36 PM

    Sweden has reduced demand for prostitution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All are driven by demand, but very few governments have focused on how to reduce the demand. Sweden is trying a different social experiment, where the customers of prostitutes are arrested. The customers are fined, and the prostitutes are given rehabilitation - job training, drug rehabilitation and so on. Sweden has flipped the model, and as a result sex traffickers don???t want to go to Sweden any more. It costs them too much.

    The sex traffickers avoiding Sweden, but where are they going? Some are going to Germany, because Germany has legalised the prostitution trade. As a result, the number of child prostitutes in Germany has gone from 11,000 to 15,000 - because LEGALISING JUST INCREASES DEMAND.
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    • Posted By: Shaguar @ 12/22/2008 11:38:26 AM

      A few people have complained about the concept of protecting the sex workers with tax dollars, but if you legalize it you can turn these people into tax paying citizens. The fact that it is not legal obviously does not stop them from doing it. Could you imagine the income this would generate for federal and local governments? If people are concerned about where the act occurs, zone it like they do strip clubs. This would actually promote the activity taking place in more of a controlled/safe enviroment. Anyone who has been to the red light districts in Paris or Amersterdam could attest that a government sanctioned prostituion can work. Yes, I know it is not technically legal there, but you do have to get a permit, have periodic medical testing to conduct "business", and there are zoning restrictions. It's unfortunate that our country is so influenced by a bunch of bible thumpers, who feel compelled to push their beliefs onto others.

    • Posted By: bac512 @ 12/20/2008 7:54:21 PM

      duh... legalizing will increase demand... it will also lower pregnancy :) (cause a lot of these girls 'giving it away' now will charge for it... and they'll (well, one would assume) try to protect their income :) (ok, maybe not, but, it's about as good an idea as any of the other comments made here.) ) anyways, ok, you're clouding issues. prostitution and sex traffickers... 2 separate crimes. MORE sex is not a bad thing.. FORCED prostitution is. LEGALIZED prostitutes should have to be registered, their 'bosses' (no longer pimps :) ) should have to have a business license, and other legal stuff to be sure of where the girls came from, why they're here, how they got here, and stuff like that.. (I'm not a lawyer, so I can't tell you what all should be put in place, BUT they could come up with something....)..

  • Posted By: ifiever @ 12/22/2008 9:23:16 AM

    everyone should be protected under the laws of this country. those involved in the sex trade are not the problem. men need to control their sexual impulses. this is a centuries old issue. legalize prostitution. make it safer for the workers and start an informational campaign about out of control men. men are the user, rapists, child molesters, murderers, and abusers of sex trade workers. stop making the issue about the women. johns are the issue.

    • Posted By: jayrc @ 12/22/2008 10:27:07 AM

      Hate to be the devil's advocate here... but I seem to remember female teachers sleeping with their young male students... So that blade slices both ways.

      • Posted By: Brian33 @ 12/22/2008 11:35:22 AM

        actually, you would think the blade slices both ways, and you are right, but in reality, the blade doesn't slice both ways. When a man has sex with his underage students, he is a child molestor and should be crrucified or hung in the streets. When a women has sex with her under age students, she can go to her local shrink and have group sessions and talk about it. Then most of the men sit around thinking about why they wish that would have happened to them when they were 12 years old. This shows you the absolute 100 percent difference of the view of sex between males and females. We are complete opposites. Which is why the government should not be involved in this issue. The women and the Men will always disagree on any "sex" related issues because we have totally different views on sex because of our biological make up. In other words, you will never change this if you decide to fight this issue. You will spen the next 1000 years trying to control men on the sex issue and you will not make even a dent.

      • Posted By: drizzy83 @ 12/22/2008 10:38:50 AM

        Your comment makes absolutely not sense in this context. The original comment was not demonizing all men, but those that abuse prostitutes. Many people commenting are stating that because what these people do is morally wrong (in the commenter's eyes), they deserve whatever comes to them. The comment you are replying to states that the issue is not with the prostitutes, but rather the johns (who tend to be men) who are becoming violent. Teachers sleeping with students have no place in this conversation. It is not playing devil's advocate; it's a strawman argument.

        • Posted By: jayrc @ 12/22/2008 11:00:10 AM

          "men need to control their sexual impulses". "stop making the issue about the women. johns are the issue."

          Sounds like they are making a case against men, not against the practice. It is all about how men are to blame.... like women have complete control over their labidos. I was simply offering more information and say that the human Species is an animal and as such has urges, not just the men.

    • Posted By: Brian33 @ 12/22/2008 11:20:23 AM

      Men need to control their sexual impulses ? LOL , ok, well see ya in the next 100 years or so you women out there who are always trying to control the men. Got a little bit of advice for you ya though. If there is ever a issue that men cannot be controlled on, its the sex issue. The sex issue is the untouchable "hands off" issue that you women have seem like you have not gotten yet. For that matter, neither has the government. But whats nice about all this, is the government is going to have to build alot of prisons to house all these "sexual predators" who would otherwise be normal productive members in society. It really works for me, because with the way the Economy is looking these days, especially for the men, I would much rather be in jail, then being out on the street. Keep up the good work you man hating women ou there. Because of you, our GDP might drop another 10 percent, and then the only people that will have a job are those sitting behind computers, and in their offices thinking anout the next time they will be going to get their next pedicure.

  • Posted By: agkcrbs @ 12/20/2008 2:59:51 PM

    Double-post acknowledged.

    Brian33, you're right in the simplest of ways, and just a few more seconds of reasoning would have shown you where my statement was also right. You have heard of such a thing as an "advertisement", right? They're everywhere. Salesmanship and marketing is all about convincing people to want something they may not need. Supply creates demand and supply amplifies demand, in the same way that legality of something magnifies its morality.

    This prohibition argument is terribly shallow and pessimistic -- shallow because it ignores the most basic of facts: people who risk everything to get a drink are alcoholics. It's not a regular market demand that rises and falls with the normal factors -- it's a "habit" good, and it's an addiction that's very hard to break once you stop, in the same way that sex and pot (cough) become habits, so that many people will risk everything to get them rather than ever consider just stopping. And it's pessimistic because you assume that people naturally demand these character- and relationship-harming goods from their birth. They don't. They have to be exposed, first -- they have to "try it", which people will do more and more as their exposure and opportunities increase. And the only forces countering the process are fear of risk and morality.

    • Posted By: Brian33 @ 12/22/2008 11:10:10 AM

      Ok, so what you are saying is, we should go back to the dark ages and be close minded, and hide everything away from people, because it is morrally wrong for them to exposed to certain things in life? We have already been down this road. The days of the witch and salem days are over, thank god. And let me tell you. A bunch of religious nuts going around hiding and outlawing certain practices under the threat of burning you at the stake did nothing to make its people any morally sanctified or any better than anyone else who has ever lived on the planet. There is a reason why they called those days, the "Dark Ages" . Hiding, or preventing people to experince certain things in life, and having a closed mind, does not make a better way of life, but I believe to the contrary.

    • Posted By: Brian33 @ 12/22/2008 11:07:19 AM

      Ok, so what you are saying is, we should go back to the dark ages and be close minded, and hide everything away from people, because it is morrally wrong for them to exposed to certain things in life? We have already been down this road. The days of the witch and salem days are over, thank god. And let me tell you. A bunch of religious nuts going around hiding and outlawing certain practices under the threat of burning you at the stake did nothing to make its people any morally sanctified or any better than anyone else who has ever lived on the planet. There is a reason why they called those days, the "Dark Ages" . Hiding, or preventing people to experince certain things in life, and having a closed mind, does not make a better way of life, but I believe to the contrary.

  • Posted By: TwoSenseWorth @ 12/22/2008 10:59:19 AM

    Hey, it's not like they are asking for a bail out. With the economy the way it is the women working in the sex industry just might double, it may be the only work available.

  • Posted By: eyeswideshut @ 12/22/2008 8:57:39 AM

    Stop trying to make sin and obvious wrongs, right! There is no place in societ across the world for such. The nerve of even those that want to protest such. What next, a day to go around killing innocent people because murders want to be protected as well? Pleeeeze! Get real! First gays, now this, what is next?

    • Posted By: jayrc @ 12/22/2008 10:31:03 AM

      Your name says it all. Take your preachy if one thing is allowed another will and throw it in the trash right with your bible. The fact of the matter is if this is allowed, as it has been in the past... there will be fewer risks to the individuals involved on both sides, it could be taxed and it could help alleviate the issues that some states are having with their budgets. Saying that this will allow murderers to kill willy nilly is just insane, just as bad as the statement of: "If gays are allowed to marry next they will want to marry a goat" That is just insane and the kind of ramblings I would expect from someone who is keeping their mind clouded by a book written by Man.

  • Posted By: D'Winter @ 12/22/2008 9:31:08 AM

    "sex worker"??? Please.....a whore is a whore......and you get what you ask for. If you constantly walk through fire you have no right to complain when you get burned. You chose your "profession"......don't expect taxpayer money to mollycoddle you. What you are doing is wrong. Period.

  • Posted By: DadooS @ 12/22/2008 9:18:46 AM

    The issue is the deeper problems that result in prostitution. Until we learn to value people beyond their potential for filling our appetites, we might as well try and care for the casualties.

  • Posted By: JKOB @ 12/22/2008 9:10:46 AM

    Prosecute the johns. Prostitution continues because it's big business, While the cop on the street might be told to go after it, the man/woman sitting behind the desk in some mucky muck office, who gets a cut of the profits could care less if some of his commodity is a result of trafficking or is an underage person. All he or she is interested in is the bottom line. Until we get to the people who are involved at the highest levels we will get nowhere.

  • Posted By: mikewadestr @ 12/22/2008 9:01:01 AM

    Do not legalize this.

  • Posted By: mikewadestr @ 12/22/2008 9:00:11 AM

    Whores and prostitues should get no protection from the law. What is all this sex worker lableing? Do we now call drug dealers "Street Drug Distributors"? Throw them all in jail.

  • Posted By: eyeswideshut @ 12/22/2008 8:57:24 AM

    Stop trying to make sin and obvious wrongs, right! There is no place in societ across the world for such. The nerve of even those that want to protest such. What next, a day to go around killing innocent people because murders want to be protected as well? Pleeeeze! Get real! First gays, now this, what is next?

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