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  • Posted By: samrlim @ 12/20/2008 7:53:34 PM

    English is my second language and I loved reading and I like this article for it opens my mind and in my simple way I would say all what we need in this world is TOLERANCE, LOVED ONE ANOTHER, RESPECT ONE ANOTHER, regardless of your sexual orientation. We are all here with the purpose in life and nothing happens by accident. Whether you're STRAIGHT, GAY OR OTHER SEXUAL ORIENTATION we are all here with the same options there is no exception. Its a choice you make EVIL OR GOOD. Gay can be anyone like any other straight individual; Gay are decent, patriotic, professional, respectful, philantrophies same as the straight individual. ALL OF US ARE SINNERS REGARDSLESS OF YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION - its the choice we make and the way we think thats what makes the difference. I AM NOT BLACK NOR WHITE I AM A COLORLESS INDIVIDUAL.

  • Posted By: BigBamm78 @ 12/20/2008 7:53:30 PM

    I am an African american and a christian. First I grew up with Pastor Warren children, and grew up in his church. he is a good man of God! They do more for the community in this country and aboard.

  • Posted By: JohnInAustin @ 12/20/2008 7:23:34 PM

    I would love to read some 'we' statements. I surely would. You know, like "We the People of The United States of America...." Because, you know, that's what we are. White, black, brown, yellow, read. Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, agnostic and athiest. Male, female, young, old, straight, gay, bi-sexual, transgendered, conservative, liberal, middle-of-the-road. If you cut us, do we not all bleed?

    I am a devout Christian, but I doubt my understanding of God is any closer than an ant's understanding of Einstein. Surely, the true God of us all can and does appear to each of us as we can best receive. Remember, as Jesus said, the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Surely, the same is true for our limited human understanding of God.

    But, Jesus also said the two Great Commandments were to Love God with all our Hearts and Minds and Souls; and to love our neighbors like ourselves. And, to my limited understanding, we are all the neighbors of whom He spoke.

    • Posted By: seabiscuit @ 12/20/2008 7:52:53 PM

      How can you tell a follower of Christ? They follow his word. Jesus said: "He who speaks against the least of my brethren speaks against me. What you do to the least of my brethren, for or against, you do to me". "They will come in my name and I will know them not". That said, thank Buddha we have separation of church and state, even if Obama doesn't think so and is having the bigot Warren, "like a rich man who gathers a crowd to hear him cry his prayers outloud" to perform his blasphemy. We will fight to the death to maintain our Constitutional rights, it is what every soldier, man and woman has died for since we first became a nation and you will no one will take away my right to marriage, to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, to adopt or anything else that is an inalienable and constitutional right FOR ALL! THERE'S YOUR "WE"!

  • Posted By: oklona @ 12/20/2008 7:51:42 PM

    I'm straight but also want to remind people how Wright "God damned America".

  • Posted By: oklona @ 12/20/2008 7:50:11 PM

    Let's not forget this man said God damn America! The Pres.elect distanced himself from him during the campaign and now that he's in he wants to rub our nose in him.I'm straight but wanted that bit added for people with short memories.

  • Posted By: unorthodox @ 12/20/2008 7:49:55 PM

    Isn't this country about the freedom to do right or wrong, as long as is doesn't hurt anyone else against his/her will?

  • Posted By: sketchartist @ 12/20/2008 7:49:19 PM

    Chris Crain: "But he (Rick Warren) was not .equatin" gay marriage with incest and polygamy."

    Rick Warren: "I'm opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage." (See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZMf9mPB_nE)

    If you are going to argue something, Mr. Crain, at least tell the truth.

  • Posted By: warpedwoody @ 12/20/2008 6:20:26 PM

    The gay culture wants to push their sick way of life upon everyone. They adopt children and tell all who will listen that the kids will not be gay. The kids will be pushed toward that sick agenda. Keep your sickness to yourself. Why do I have to be fair to you when you aren`t fair towards straights? Go away.

    • Posted By: Fedupwithlies @ 12/20/2008 7:47:05 PM

      LOLOLOLOL...Get a grip! Ok, here's an observation covered in coloquial human sexuality 101: Gay's and Lesbians are raised by heterosexualas and are born gay and lesbian, just as you ? (are) born heterosexual and therefore your argument - that gay and lesbian parents will raise children to be gay is a false one - Just as Anita's 'recruitment' argument was a false one, though, as we've seen in the last 30 years, religious people recruit all the time and try to convertothers to their conservative politics.....The other truism is that, the ones who object/protest against gays and lesbians the most are invariably latently homosexual...

  • Posted By: Derek72 @ 12/20/2008 3:52:54 PM

    Oh Jesus F'ing Christ, when will the religious people realize that they are not entitled to make other people adhere to their faith-based rules? If you want to live your life not coveting your neighbor's wife or not worshipping idols, then do so! But don't try to force those rules on the rest of us. The same holds true for gay marriage. If you're opposed to it, then don't marry gays in your church! But don't deny that right to the millions of loving monogamous same-sex couples. There is a huge difference between religious marriage (with spiritual benefits granted by a so-called God), and a civil marriage (with legal benefits granted by the State). When religious leaders try to blur the line between religious and civil marriage, that is when people take offense, and rightfully so! Clearly religion doesn't have a monopoly on granting marriages -- the state has been in that business for a long time now. When my tax dollars are going to pay for the benefits granted to married couples, then it damn well better be allocated in a non-discriminatory manner.

  • Posted By: yplese@comcast.net @ 12/20/2008 7:41:33 PM

    You people who have big, important points to make about gay marriage are absolutely nuts. There are far more references in the Bible to the sin of adultry. Where is your outrage there? Get on the band wagon about adultry. Prohibit the remarriage of adulterors. Proclaim how they undermine the sanctity of marriage. I think those of you who put so much effort into undermining the love of two people, heterosexual or homosexual, are wackos, and we shouldn't give so much print and credence to wackos.

  • Posted By: yplese@comcast.net @ 12/20/2008 7:38:55 PM

    I think that you people who are so concerned about gay marriage are wacky. The Bible has far more references to the sin of adultry. (Check the Concordance.) So, why don't you make that your cause? Why not work to forbit the remarriage of adulterors? Aren't they far more undermining of the sanctity of marriage? What in the world is the reason that you find this such a cause celebre when you do not find adultry equally or far more offensive. Adultry is far more common than homosexuality. Adultry is far more damaging to the sanctity of marriage, to children, to families. So, I don't get it. Those who make the marriage between two consenting adults who love and care for one another their issue du jour have a problem of their own. I am a happily married heterosexual woman, and I celebrate anyone who finds happiness with another person. The rest of you ---------- you make me ashamed of the human race.

  • Posted By: AmericanMan63 @ 12/20/2008 4:52:59 PM

    this was a very interesting article. Chris came across very level headed with valid points, Leah came across as close minded, and ranting. Personally, i dont care one way or the other, marrige for gays or civil unions for gays. Both sides have valid points, but both sides are in essence - fighting for a title. If a civil union gives the same rights under the law of the state - who cares what its called? And on the other side of the coin - if the civil union gives the same rights -who cares what its called? Its like having a room full of janitors and half the room saying "We arent Secretaries, we are administrative assistants " - again - who cares - its just a title

    One thing that i have notice that kind of irks me - is the gay community's complete lack of respect for other peoples views. Time and time again, the people of america are showing they are against gay marriage. Honestly, give it time, as the older ilk die off, the younger people will support it - its just a matter of time. All the fighting the will of the people is doing, is making people in the middle of the road angry at the ay community for trying to go over their heads by overturning voting results.
    Along the same vein - the gay community seems very hypocritical, very my view is right, and every other view is wrong. Im sure there are peopel that get angry because someone is gay, i feel most people arent like that though. But just as its your right to feel that gay relationships are perfectly fine, they should respect other people's view that it isnt. As long as they arent attacking the gay community or beating them up etc. Just leave it be, I dont know any anti-gay marriage people attacking the gay community, just wanting to define marriage, but i do know gay people attacking the anti-gay view points. "They are wrong and evil" Just remember - if its ok for you to feel that way, its ok for someone to feel differently. Give it time, you will eventually win your right to marry, but dont try to go over the peoples heads, that only leads to resentment from people who would normally be indifferent, or at least not hostile.

    • Posted By: freedomrocks @ 12/20/2008 7:38:10 PM

      It is not only "old" people who are opposed to gay marriage.

    • Posted By: DWillson @ 12/20/2008 5:04:13 PM

      as I was campaigning through back woods towns of New Hampshire for two years...volunteering to go to places I probably should not have gone...knocking on doors and debating with people about why they should vote for Obama even though they were not really open to a "black Predsident" ...I can tell you a few of those people...maybe more...I know if they had realized I was gay would not have thought twice that if they could get away with it would have put a bullet in my head literally and buried me in the back woods somewhere. without a thought to it.

      would you have said that blacks who were denied marrying whites in the 60's were short tempered and not tolerant enough because they took offense to people saying their relationship was one step away from bestiality?

      Chris is way off track in this articvle.

  • Posted By: writeseth @ 12/20/2008 7:37:38 PM

    No one compares gay rights to slavery. No one who is being offended has ever been a slave. That struggle belongs to prior generations. It is very similar to the modern black civil rights movement for equal treatment. People are murdered for being gay, how much worse does someone need it to be. However, if any black individual, who has not been a slave wants to be "the most discriminated against", I guess we could have some ranking system in place if it pleases them.

    Lastly, there is so much evidence that homosexuality is biological in origin, that to ignore the data is like saying cigarettes don't cause cancer and global warming is all a shame.

  • Posted By: BigBamm78 @ 12/20/2008 7:36:48 PM

    Does anyone have a problem with Gangs?
    Does anyone have a problem with rape?
    Does anyone have a problem with KKK?
    Does anyone have a problem with L.A?

  • Posted By: Michelle M @ 12/20/2008 7:35:11 PM

    Why does Ms. Renna keep stating that Warren believes LGBTs "do not exist"? He indeed believes they exist, and that they, like ALL people, have inner desires that are in direct rebellion against God IF acted upon. People who are attracted to the same sex, or who feel trapped in the body of the "wrong" gender, are simply experiencing what we all experience -- the desire to do what we want despite what God says. It's just like my longing to have sex with whomever, divorce my husband, lie about my enemy, take revenge upon those who wrong me, keep my wealth to myself while the neighbor struggles to pay his bills, spread rumors about the woman I work with, or escape my problems through [insert mood-altering substance]. All of these desires, and many more, are part of what make us a people who need God's mercy (which He offers), forgiveness (which He offers), and deliverance (which He offers). To insist that the rest of the population give their stamp of approval to my acting upon my distorted desires is to make it easier for me to act on those desires and ignore God -- and lead others down that same road. That is what those who oppose gay marriage fear -- that a stamp of approval on gay marriage (or ANY actions that are in rebellion against God) will lead others to follow suit and rebel against God as well. The Bible is very clear about homosexuality, as it is about all sexual immorality. There is no gray area here, despite what gay theologians would have us believe. There is also no comparison to the rights of blacks or women. The Bible states that all who are in Christ are equal, and that includes homosexuals -- but that equality does not include the freedom to follow our desires to willingly rebel against God. He condemns men having sex with men, and women having sex with women, as sin -- just as He condemns lying, stealing, and gossip. We are all in the same boat -- all of us -- and that is why He gives us the option of putting our faith in Jesus Christ. Without Him, we are condemned by our desires ALONE, never mind our actions. Keep your rebellious desires -- which we all have -- as just that, desires. Don't expect the rest of the world to applaud them and encourage them. Our love for mankind precludes us from standing in silence.

  • Posted By: Michelle M @ 12/20/2008 7:34:56 PM

    Why does Ms. Renna keep stating that Warren believes LGBTs "do not exist"? He indeed believes they exist, and that they, like ALL people, have inner desires that are in direct rebellion against God IF acted upon. People who are attracted to the same sex, or who feel trapped in the body of the "wrong" gender, are simply experiencing what we all experience -- the desire to do what we want despite what God says. It's just like my longing to have sex with whomever, divorce my husband, lie about my enemy, take revenge upon those who wrong me, keep my wealth to myself while the neighbor struggles to pay his bills, spread rumors about the woman I work with, or escape my problems through [insert mood-altering substance]. All of these desires, and many more, are part of what make us a people who need God's mercy (which He offers), forgiveness (which He offers), and deliverance (which He offers). To insist that the rest of the population give their stamp of approval to my acting upon my distorted desires is to make it easier for me to act on those desires and ignore God -- and lead others down that same road. That is what those who oppose gay marriage fear -- that a stamp of approval on gay marriage (or ANY actions that are in rebellion against God) will lead others to follow suit and rebel against God as well. The Bible is very clear about homosexuality, as it is about all sexual immorality. There is no gray area here, despite what gay theologians would have us believe. There is also no comparison to the rights of blacks or women. The Bible states that all who are in Christ are equal, and that includes homosexuals -- but that equality does not include the freedom to follow our desires to willingly rebel against God. He condemns men having sex with men, and women having sex with women, as sin -- just as He condemns lying, stealing, and gossip. We are all in the same boat -- all of us -- and that is why He gives us the option of putting our faith in Jesus Christ. Without Him, we are condemned by our desires ALONE, never mind our actions. Keep your rebellious desires -- which we all have -- as just that, desires. Don't expect the rest of the world to applaud them and encourage them. Our love for mankind precludes us from standing in silence.

  • Posted By: jfmccann @ 12/20/2008 6:30:55 PM

    The world was better off when the gays stayed in their closets. They were ashamed then and should be now. Nasty, ignorant people.

    • Posted By: Fedupwithlies @ 12/20/2008 7:32:59 PM

      Hmm, Michal Angelo and Leonardo Divinci might disagree with you....and would hopefully prevent you from using any of the inventions they discovered that to this day make your life easier....you filthy, disgusting blahsphemer of Gods humaniy

  • Posted By: yplese@comcast.net @ 12/20/2008 7:32:45 PM

    You people who have big, important points to make about gay marriage are absolutely nuts. There are far more references in the Bible to the sin of adultry. Where is your outrage there? Get on the band wagon about adultry. Prohibit the remarriage of adulterors. Proclaim how they undermine the sanctity of marriage. I think those of you who put so much effort into undermining the love of two people, heterosexual or homosexual, are wackos, and we shouldn't give so much print and credence to wackos.

  • Posted By: blucia @ 12/20/2008 7:38:27 AM

    I now feel violated and used by Obama. I, and millions of other gays in this nation, supported this man believing that he understood human rights and the hate-mongering langauge of these right wing Christians. But by inviting Rick Warren to preach he has supported his beliefs and not those who supported Obama in the election. Shame on you Barrack Obama.

    • Posted By: freedomrocks @ 12/20/2008 7:31:42 PM

      Did you miss the part of his campaign where he clearly said he opposed gay marriage? So did his running mate. You really did not support the whole candidate, you ignored what he plainly said and dreamed up what he would "do" for your one narrow agenda.

    • Posted By: saki14 @ 12/20/2008 12:40:24 PM

      Ten minutes after this is over no one will care.

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