well me im only 16 and i think that gays should be aloud to do what ever they want, there the same as everybody eles. just because they like the same sex dosnt meen that they sould be out casts and they should be doing what they want to do. if any of the congress remember no man is abouv the law every body has equal rights. if gays want to join the army let them join.
, Jamie Chapman
((GO ROSEVILLE TIGGERS!!!!!!!))
The Power Of Prayer
-
Posted By: jafhjdhfjiodyf @ 01/08/2009 10:24:54 AM
-
Posted By: DeafGary @ 01/08/2009 5:56:19 AM
ghostmasseur said the immagination of those, who believe in the Almighty is the only place diety exists.
I, for one, can prove that statement wrong and I'll glady do it here.
In 1971, I was a half-dead ten year old, whth Pneumococcal Meningitis. The doctors said I had no more than two weeks to live and then a small group of believers began praying dilligently.
In 1974, I had a relapse...prompting a doctor to say I had "less than one on ten-thousand chance of survival. Again, a small group of believers prayed dilligently and I survived. A doctor would say he wouldn't expect me to be able to walk, within a year, but my moblility didn't become impaired for another 18 years.
In 1997, another relapse occurred and they doctors kept saying they didn't know if I would live or die. The same thing happened fourteen months later, in 1999 and I was in a month-long coma.
I'm sure the writer, who demands this is all my imagination is one of those, I've often mentoined, who are the same as was, years ago, mentioned by a professional wrestling writer, who said, "For those, who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those, who refuse to believe, no explanation will do."
Then, when ghostmasseur says Obama, "actually understands the Constitution," another idiocy is presented.
Obama has spent a few years in Congress - in name only, most o f the time. He has deceived a hoard of young voters to vote for him and couldn't even win the South, which was traditoinally democratic.
Personally, I'm more concerned with the future of the nation, in general, than I am with wheter or not Obama will kiss up to homosexuals, abortionists, etc. because, with the sins of the democrats taking over, I wonder how much longer the wrath of Father God Almighty will be held and not descended upon America.-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/08/2009 8:47:35 AM
"Then, when ghostmasseur says Obama, "actually understands the Constitution," another idiocy is presented.
Obama has spent a few years in Congress - in name only, most o f the time. He has deceived a hoard of young voters to vote for him and couldn't even win the South, which was traditoinally democratic"
First off the south has not voted deomcratic in a while. They are too tied to their man-made bible.
My comment about Obama understanding the US Consitution has nothing to do with his time in the Senate, it has to do with his academic background. -
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/08/2009 8:44:56 AM
Deaf Gary,
"I, for one, can prove that statement wrong and I'll glady do it here."
You have not proven it at all.
In 1971, I was a half-dead ten year old, whth Pneumococcal Meningitis. The doctors said I had no more than two weeks to live and then a small group of believers began praying dilligently. In 1974, I had a relapse...prompting a doctor to say I had "less than one on ten-thousand chance of survival. Again, a small group of believers prayed dilligently and I survived. A doctor would say he wouldn't expect me to be able to walk, within a year, but my moblility didn't become impaired for another 18 years. In 1997, another relapse occurred and they doctors kept saying they didn't know if I would live or die. The same thing happened fourteen months later, in 1999 and I was in a month-long coma. I'm sure the writer, who demands this is all my imagination is one of those, I've often mentoined, who are the same as was, years ago, mentioned by a professional wrestling writer, who said, "For those, who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those, who refuse to believe, no explanation will do."
Nothing that you have written proves the existance of god. It simply proves the resilience of the human mind and body. It is poosible the human can put forth energies to help others? Maybe, since all that is left after we die is energy. But the healing powers of the human minds and knowing that otehrs cared enough about you to pray for you is a far more intelligent and feasible explanation to why you lived as long as you did. The professional wresting writers words are nice tripe but not valid in any way. Religious belief is pure faith without real proof. Nothing wrong with that but not in any way proof of god's existance.
As for your other commetns about homosexuality, they are worthless.
-
-
Posted By: kbbaptist @ 01/08/2009 1:42:48 AM
Romans 1:26 KJV" For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: "
Rom 1:27 KJV "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
In these two verses the Bible clearly states that God does not approve of homosexuality. The Bible treats this kind of lifestyle as a sin, but also tells us Born Again Christians to love the sinner and hate the sin itself. The argument of the Old Testament laws being archaic is irrelevent because these verses come from the New Testament. Myself and those of like faith do not hate or even look down on homosexuals, we love them the way Christ loved the world. We pray that they realize that their lifestyle is sin, but we do not bash them in any way. True Christianity is "loving your neighbor as yourself." I commit plenty of sins myself, so why do I have a right to hate or judge someone else who also is a sinner? I don't, I can only pray that the readers of this article look up what the Bible says for themselves and not trust what the writer of the article or I myself say. Do the research yourself and I believe you will truly be satisfied.-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/08/2009 8:39:50 AM
Again, religous texzt of no relevance to US Law or the US Government, or the country as a whole. Maybe imporatnt to believes but not ot everyone.
-
-
Posted By: sashugar @ 01/07/2009 3:59:09 PM
Gays, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are not children of God as the word specifically states in II Peter Chp 2 vs 1-10 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be fals teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves with destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchndise of you: whose judgement now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth no. For if God spared NOT the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgement; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overrthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation (behaviour) of the wicked:The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgement to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil dignities. It's plain as day what our God, the holy one and the only one whom has a heaven and hell to put you in, says about anyone whom sins willingly and doesn't turn from it. They are given over to a reprobate mind, which means just this, that You believe what is false to be true and what is true to be false. The Lord told us in the Old Testament in Joshua 'And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom you will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord'. You chose your lifestyle just as you chose to look the other way when God told you No, God didn't choose it for you nor did he make you that way and you were not born that way. God gives everyone a choice, he's a true gentleman that will not force anyone to serve him but desires all to turn from their wicked ways, repent and serve him. You're either serving God, which you're not, or the Devil.
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/07/2009 4:18:24 PM
Religious ideas relevant only to those who choose to believe in them. Man-made words and ideas attributed to a man-made diety, who only has power over those who CHOOSE to give it to the dieties they create in their own imaginations (as that is the only place said deities exist).
Of no value to the world in general.
-
-
Posted By: neverXmiss @ 01/07/2009 11:56:36 AM
What does this inauguration have anything to do with gay rights or taking away rights of any kind, its JUST an inauguration of a president. Gay people have no valid argument of any kind. Under the area of the bible, its clear when it comes to gays. So they don't have an argument there either regarding "representation of everybody" in that first two comments of the debate. This is an inauguration nothing else.
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/07/2009 4:15:18 PM
""What does this inauguration have anything to do with gay rights or taking away rights of any kind, its JUST an inauguration of a president. "
It is the inauguration of a president who actually understands and respects the US Constitution. And an innauguration is a major event for the country. It shows that a change of parties/power/governing leaders occurs in the US without military intervention, without coups, and in a fairly orderly manner. That is a big deal. I will not speak for LGBT community (being heterosexual myself), but as someone whowas raised studying the US Constitution and its history and who understands the said dicument is the ONLY sacred document tothe country and government (various religious texts may be sacred to individual citizens but not to the country or government as entities) I have a problem with ANY prayer being said. And one by someone as narrow-minded as Warren makes it even worse.
"Gay people have no valid argument of any kind. Under the area of the bible, its clear when it comes to gays. So they don't have an argument there either regarding "representation of everybody" in that first two comments of the debate. This is an inauguration nothing else."
The bible (and god) is irrelevant in regards US Law and Government and thereby with regards the innauguration.
-
-
Posted By: chike1 @ 01/02/2009 8:14:33 PM
ghostmasseur. The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination. The Bible does not say that about black people. Black people raise natural families have descendants and countries of origins. Homosexuality does not have a blood line to trace its roots from simply because it is an act not a race. Homosexuals are simply a bunch of follks engaging in immoral relationships and affairs. Its like comparing toothpicks to baseball caps.
-
Posted By: Zig Zag @ 01/07/2009 2:51:11 AM
And the Bible also says that it is O.K. to own slaves, as long as you treat them well. Idiot.
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/03/2009 10:02:55 AM
Chike1,
That is your OPINION, which you are entitled, to but there are enough blacks both clerics and laypeople who say that the analogy is valid to make it a legitmate disscussion. Any form of discrimination has its equivalency, espeially under the law. It odes not matter why the discrimination is taking place, It is wrong and equally illegal under the law. When gay blacks make the claim (which some do) then your argument loses much of its power. And when black leaders from the civil rights era make the analogy, their words hold force of history.
-
-
Posted By: chike1 @ 01/02/2009 8:18:43 PM
ghostmasseur those black clerics preaching prohomosexuality are not preaching Bible and they do not speak for me or other Bible believing Christians both black and white.
-
Posted By: Zig Zag @ 01/07/2009 2:50:00 AM
I love the way you Christian fundamentalists love to pick and chose from the Bible.
Did you know that it is a sin to work on the Sabbath? And the penalty is stoning?
I am willing to bet you've worked on the Sabbath. Why don't you post your address and we'll all come over with a sack of rocks. Or maybe we'll just use the ones in your head. -
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/03/2009 10:06:37 AM
Whell they may not speak for you but they do speak for many Christains, both black and white. Your religion does not speak with one voice, nor can your religion legitimate claim to be the only one's who speak for your alleged god.
-
-
Posted By: joe 6pack @ 01/03/2009 4:04:51 PM
Maybe Obama and the Democratic party are trying to shake the VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY image. Hopefully they are trying to distance themselves from the depraved perverts.
-
Posted By: Zig Zag @ 01/07/2009 2:47:13 AM
joe 6pack? Any relation to Joe the Plumber? I am thinking yes.
That's what makes the Internet so great. You can call yourself joe 6pack and no one knows the difference. But if we could access the web cam on your computer, we would all know it is more like joe double chin. -
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/04/2009 9:20:26 AM
Ah the full diaper fool is back. Someone call his mommy and get him changed.
-
-
Posted By: tjjefferson1776 @ 01/05/2009 4:21:36 PM
Do you really think the average straight or gay American cares who prays at the inauguration. Stop making something out of nothing..I'm an atheist I don't think there should be any praying in public
-
Posted By: Zig Zag @ 01/07/2009 2:44:51 AM
I agree with you - I think this is a tempest in a tea pot.
-
-
Posted By: Zig Zag @ 01/07/2009 2:01:21 AM
In an interview, Rick Warren indicated that the bible says homosexuality is a sin. He said just as straight men must control their natural desire to have sex with as many women as possible, homesexuals must also control their own desires.
Ironically, the bible also says gluttony is a sin. So why can't fatso control his desires and push himself away from the table once and a while.
Hyprocrisy knows no bounds.
-
Posted By: twilkes @ 01/06/2009 10:27:21 PM
Why does everybody keep piking on the gays? Its not even sporty let alone fun! Everybody knows that the gay's are superdupper senstive, and we should be on our little tippiest toes so we dont hult their little gay over sensitive feelgoods!!!
-
Posted By: RandyHiggins @ 01/06/2009 1:09:00 PM
The key to this argument is found in the statements of atheists and agnostics. When they state that they prefer no public prayers, they are stating that they are offended. If all publlic acts must be non-offensive to all citizens, there will be no public acts. Rick Warren offends some people, Barack Obama offends some people, LGBT individuals offend some people. Taking offense is the least effective way to nurture a mutually beneficial society. Love your enemies, turn the other cheek, so much as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. When we do these things as a society we will be at peace.
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/06/2009 6:06:51 PM
RandyHiggins,
"The key to this argument is found in the statements of atheists and agnostics."
Actually the key to the arguement is found in the US Constitution. It is found in the Establishment clause. Prayers at the innauguration are a form of Establishing Religion.
"When they state that they prefer no public prayers, they are stating that they are offended."
Actually atheists and agnsotics are not the only ones who find the idea of prayers at the innaguration problematic There are many people of faith who find the idea just as offensive and exclusionary. They realize the cosntitutional problems that pubic prayers brings forth. It is the exact same problem that the US Supreme Court found when it barred prayers from the pubic schools.
"If all publlic acts must be non-offensive to all citizens, there will be no public acts."
Again nothing about offence. We are talking illegal actions. But the rest of yor idea is absurd.
"Taking offense is the least effective way to nurture a mutually beneficial society."
Bull. When there is valid reason to take offense, bringing it to the attention of those doing the offense is often the reason to fix the problem. And when the issue is the very real possibility of an action violating the US Constitution, it is not only appropriate it is required to bring the problem to the public's attention.
"Love your enemies, turn the other cheek, so much as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. When we do these things as a society we will be at peace."
Hogwash. When the Constitution is at risk, turning the other cheek is treason and unacceptable. And in general it tends to be those who are assualting others who tell their victims to turn the other cheek.
-
-
Posted By: sandrawdallas @ 01/05/2009 10:36:07 PM
I'm an agnostic. If someone gave a speech saying that agnostics were child molesters I'd be disgusted that my president invited that person to give a national speech/prayer/comment/whatever. Case closed.
-
Posted By: IAmATVJunkie @ 01/05/2009 8:58:39 PM
Yes
-
Posted By: atrivera15 @ 01/05/2009 4:46:52 PM
We on left and common sense side have more to fear from a hateful individual like Warren than we have to gain. He treated Obama in the saddleback church interview like less than if you ask me. These people would wipe us off the face of the earth if they could, don't kid yourself.
-
Posted By: Clare_T @ 01/03/2009 5:06:02 PM
The newsweek.com link to this article asks "Is Gay Outrage Over Rick Warren Justified?" Let me explain something, I am not outraged. I am terrified.
-
Posted By: chike1 @ 01/02/2009 8:21:22 PM
Horrible Bastard's quote "So what? They can feel whatever they like. The parallel is direct, and accurate." Nuff siad. You obviously do not care about black people. Simply using their suffering to condone a shameful sinful act. Shame on you. IT is called EXPLOITATION.
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/03/2009 3:33:14 PM
"Simply using their suffering to condone a shameful sinful act."
It is only sinful in the opinion of some people not all (and not all blacks either.)
"IT is called EXPLOITATION."
Not at all. It is called a matter of opinion. YOU (and many other blacks) think it is wrong and offensive while other blacks think it is valid and appropriate. Neither side has the right to say thery are absolutely correct or that the other side is absolutely wrong. It is nowhere near exploitation though.
-
-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/31/2008 3:44:41 PM
Ghost and Horrible...before I get off the blog today I would like to wish the both of you a Happy New Year and may God keep the both of you safe until then.... even if you don't believe in Him....lol...
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 01/01/2009 8:54:47 AM
Bojack,
May you have a happy and safe new year as well. And I have never had problems with people wishing me their deitiy's blessings even if those deties do not exist since it is simply their way of putting forth good wishes. No harm, no foul.
-
-
Posted By: Rojosh @ 12/25/2008 4:29:09 AM
I lived in Europe for 3 years, just back to the US for a year now. They have "civil unions" AKA "Gay marriage all throughout the EU. Society doesn't suffer, nor has traditional marriage broken down. People tend to be more accepting and certainly, much more mature than Americans. I can still, after a year, scarcely belive the level of crap over this issue. Why is love so wrong while we support 2 wars in the Middle East? What the F*** does anyone care what 2 other people do in the privacy of their own lives? Sex does not equal marriage and I can't see what the obsession with anal sex is all about. Does everyone one deny that heterosexual couples ever have anal sex? For God's sake, love one another and stop all this hate. I may have it wrong, but I am light years ahead of many posters here. Why do the fanatics always pot in all capital letters? Take a typing class, or do the rest of us an even bigger favor, don't post. Merry Christmas, may you "thumpers" come to understand why HE came into the world.
-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/29/2008 11:44:27 AM
I lived in Europe for over 15 years of my life and will be there this January and the fact that Europeans are so-called more open to abominable pratices has no bearing on the maturity of anyone....it just shows the immorality of the Europeans who by the masses don't believe in God....so according to you we Americans are suppose to abandon God in order to mature into immoral dogs! Get Real.... this is not Europe and if you think it is better over there then go back and become a citizen ......
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/29/2008 1:21:20 PM
"I lived in Europe for over 15 years of my life and will be there this January and the fact that Europeans are so-called more open to abominable pratices has no bearing on the maturity of anyone....it just shows the immorality of the Europeans who by the masses don't believe in God...."
Perhaps because we are civilized, and have no wish to live in a theocracy, Yank. I really can't see much difference between you and the Taliban, excepting that the Taliban get away with killing their victims, and you can't.
As for belief in God, most of us are believers. We just don't feel the need to cram our beliefs down the throats of our neighbors.
As for this January, feel free to give it a miss. While we do enjoy having Americans over, we prefer the ones that actually believe in things like personal liberty.-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/29/2008 3:51:41 PM
Perhaps because we are civilized, and have no wish to live in a theocracy, Yank. I really can't see much difference between you and the Taliban, excepting that the Taliban get away with killing their victims, and you can't.
Yes I???m a Yank and proud of it and I don???t go around like yourself sticking my nose in what other countries do. I you want to blog go to your own countries blogs and settle your own disputes! I???m not the one who endorses the Taliban like you Europeans calling them peace loving people???..
Americans over, we prefer the ones that actually believe in things like personal liberty.
Okay Mr. European???not! Like I need your approval to travel anywhere! We prefer you not starting anymore World Wars???.do you think that you guys can manage that with all the liberties that you so claim to believe? So much for your civilized remarks!-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/30/2008 12:26:34 PM
"Okay Mr. European???not! Like I need your approval to travel anywhere! We prefer you not starting anymore World Wars???."
No, you seem to be doing a proper job of that yourselves.-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/30/2008 1:13:31 PM
Yes I see the mass deaths going on around the world because of me! Get Real Horrible! Your like a little child saying I know you are but what am I? LOL.....
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/30/2008 3:19:32 PM
"Yes I see the mass deaths going on around the world because of me!"
2,000,000 dead Vietnamese and a few hundred thousand dead Iraqi civilians would agree.-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/30/2008 4:46:57 PM
Yes these are World Wars....get real!
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/31/2008 11:21:01 AM
Who said anything about World Wars? My, how those goalposts move.
-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/31/2008 3:33:52 PM
Never moved you just failed once again to pay attention to the topic I was talking about...Horrible
-
-
-
-
-
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/30/2008 12:26:01 PM
"Yes I???m a Yank and proud of it and I don???t go around like yourself sticking my nose in what other countries do."
Oh, the irony. LOL.
-
-
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/29/2008 1:23:03 PM
"Get Real.... this is not Europe and if you think it is better over there then go back and become a citizen ......"
"Subject".
And he's welcome anytime. You, on the other hand? We won't stop you from coming over, of course, but we shall leave you free to wonder why someone like Rojosh is made to feel welcome, and you are not.
-
-
-
Posted By: orion751 @ 12/27/2008 9:24:37 PM
I have supported B. Obama from the get go however in the matter of 'reverend Rick' I am left speechless. Being a straight married woman with one question beyond the obvoius "let's all get along"...WHY?? With a brilliant mind and equally brilliant minds around him it is baffling that a better person could not be select to represent the spirtual portion / side of our nation. This 'reverend' miserably and abjectly fails to represent hundreds of thousands of fine, honorable United States Citizens, many of whom have given their lives for their country, or otherwise serve this nation. With the exception of preaching intolerance what has this man done other than pray and work his congregation?
Please do not misunderstand my intention in this short missive. There is a need for inclusion of persons of varying beliefs to try and find a middle ground where possible but this inclusion needs to be done carefully and with sensitivity i.e. the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the one (in this case). Leave the ego out.
Trish
Tucson, AZ-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/29/2008 11:37:54 AM
Trish save us the Tripe of tolerance and yet you sit up here and preach intolerance when it comes to opposing views....sounds hypocritical if you ask me....and as far as sitting at the same table...get real! What is being served will make both gag! It is like drinking lukewarm water ...disgusting and meant to be spit out of the mouth!
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/29/2008 1:18:11 PM
"Trish save us the Tripe of tolerance and yet you sit up here and preach intolerance when it comes to opposing views...."
If the opposing view is one that creates second class citizens, then listening to it is not "tolerance".-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/29/2008 3:36:29 PM
Opposing views is what this country has been running off of since its beginning and enforcing people to accept abnormal behavior as normal makes them second class citizens who don't have the right to express their beliefs and are subject to being control by those who preach tolerance as long as it is only given to their way of thinking...
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 12/29/2008 4:42:40 PM
They have a right to their opinion/beleifs. They do NOT have a right to use those belefs to deny equal rights.
-
Posted By: bojack27 @ 12/30/2008 1:11:24 PM
When did preaching the gospel deny anyone of equal rights? When you tell others that they cannot believe their own doctrine and to change their doctrine or be characterize as a hatemonger then this is denying the rights of others free speech and freedom of religion.
-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 12/30/2008 2:40:00 PM
I don't care if they preach it. They just can't use their preaching to make US law. It is one thing to say that one's religion views an action as an abomination or a sin. That only matters to those who choose to believe in that religion. But when one makes the analogy between homosexuality and child molesters, I would argue that THAT is a form of hate speach because no intelligent human being can make that analogy without hatred, since there is no valid way to make that anology.
Just a point about being allowed to preach whatever one's religion "inspires" one to preach. There are many UltraOrthodox Jewish Rabbis, who using what is written int he TaNaKH, have stated that Chrisstaintiy is idoltry and an vile abomination. A careful reading ot ht TaNaKh would support that assertion. Their doing so is not hate speach. But they say that all Christains are perverts, child molesters and pedophiles. To do that would be a form of hate speach and slander (unless they were talking about parts of the Roamn Cathoic Priesthood and even then to make it a blanket statement would be wrong.)-
Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 12/30/2008 11:06:32 PM
There were way too many typos in that last paragraph and I left out some words that made it seem as if something was beging said by the ultra Orthodox Rabbis that was not. Let's try this again:
Just a point about being allowed to preach whatever one's religion "inspires" one to preach. There are many UltraOrthodox Jewish Rabbis who, using what is written in the TaNaKH, have stated that Christiantiy is idolotry and a vile abomination against God. A careful reading of the TaNaKH can very easily and accurately support that assertion. Their doing so is not hate speech (it may be inflamatory speech but not hate speech). But IF they had said (which they have NOT done) that all Christians are perverts, child molesters and pedophiles, that wold be an entirely different matter. To do that would be a form of hate speach and slander (unless of course they were talking about parts of the Roman Catholic Priesthood and even then, if they made it a blanket statement about ALL Roman Catholic Priests, it would be wrong.)
The difference is that although one comment (Homosexuality being a sin and an abomination against God or Christainity being Idolatry and an abomination against God) may be a religous belief (albeit arguably an obnoxious one) is not one hat is not universally held and is NOT validly considered hate speech. The other, that homosexuals or Christiains are child molesters or pedophiles IS an unsustainable lie that no intellignt human being could make and IS arguably a form of hate speech because it is intended to incite others and is something (child mostation and pedophilia) that ALL people, regardless of religous belief, consider wrong and criminal act. It is a slanderous and libleous comment that COULD BE (not necessarily WOULD BE) be actionable in many courts of law.
-
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/30/2008 3:18:34 PM
"When you tell others that they cannot believe their own doctrine and to change their doctrine or be characterize as a hatemonger then this is denying the rights of others free speech and freedom of religion."
No, you are free to practice your hate cult's beliefs, and we are free to call you a hatemonger.
-
-
Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/30/2008 12:24:58 PM
I think Bojack is suffering from "battered Christian syndrome". LOL.
-
-
-
-
-
Report Abuse
Enter comments if any for reporting abuse
- Black Friday should unleash pent-up demand. Analyst Bill DreherNYT
- The task is to restore our conservative bona fides James Bopp Jr. on a 10-pt GOP checklist NYT
- Twenty five years feels right in my bones and right in my spirit. Oprah on ending her showCST
- It’s going to be a holy war Orrin Hatch on debate over the Senate health billNYT
- The nation and the world will see him for the coward he is Holder, on trying KSMAP
Discuss