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  • Posted By: bummerbox @ 02/01/2009 8:49:08 PM

    Democrats already screwed it up its just that the majority of the main stream media stations never reported the truth. Go to youtube and search for "Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial mess" and this "Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis" you can not argue with video and audio of Democrats in their own words screwing the whole world up .

  • Posted By: buickjim @ 01/02/2009 7:46:33 PM

    The three things that the republicans need to survive are acceptance, acceptance and acceptance. The three things that the conservative wing of the party will never permit is acceptance, acceptance and acceptance. Until things change the republicans will be confined to irrelevancy. That is, unless and until we democrats screw it up again.

  • Posted By: InformedIndependent @ 01/02/2009 12:40:26 AM

    Um...yeah Jordan. Your serious misrepresentation of history and the very disjointed way you express it is why the GOP is not in power. And before you say it - I am an Independent, not a Democrat.

    Abraham Lincoln did not start the American Civil War - hotheads in South Carolina did by firing on Fort Sumter. But even more basic is that the roots of the Civil War likely started in the formation of our Constitution - the battle between Federalism and States Rights. Lincoln actually tried to reach out to the agitators to negotiate. They chose not to listen and two thirds of a million Americans died as a result. Truth is, the CW made us who we are today, so sacrifice on both sides, as tragic as it was in the 1860's, made us great today.

    Obama didn't cause the Great Depression II as you put it. Not only is he not the President, one man's vote in Congress doesn't start a Depression - plus we are not actually in a depression. Recessions and depressions are caused by consumer buying habits. When they stop buying, businesses react by laying people off, scaling back production, etc. This creates the downward spiral that perpetuates the economic climate we're in. Joseph P. Kennedy didn't start the last one either. One man, no matter how wealthy, cannot turn the fortunes of 120 million people. Depressions and recessions are not caused by stock market crashes, and I would argue that fewer people per capita were invested in the market in 1929, so to blame their fortunes on a market crash is, well, ludicrous.

    George W. Bush is in office right now. Yet his name doesn't come up once in your loosely literate diatribe about the how Obama and the Kennedy's caused all of this. When we create a wealth culture that suggests that making money is more important than doing right an wrong, which is a fundamental cause of the Wall Street collapse, when we create a culture that disdains innovation, which is a fundamental cause of the Detroit collapse, we doom this great country to fail. Our economic situation right now rivals that of 3d world emerging markets that suffer from a lack of transparency and moral hazards in their financial systems. Part of this blame gets to go to your party, the GOP, some to the Dems, but all of it get to go to folks, like you, who turn a blind eye to why things like this happen in favor of empty rhetoric that has not remotely served Joe Q Public for decades. Until our leaders, Democrat and Republican alike recognize they actually work for 300 million Americans and not 1 million lobbyists and representatives of a few special interests...we're all doomed.

    Get your facts straight.

  • Posted By: jordan c. fan @ 01/01/2009 4:33:48 AM

    Our Obligatory Objections Over Obama's Obvious Obscene Obsessions.

    When Great Depression II Begins, Civil War II Also Starts. Americans love of sportmanship may have caused the nations final demise. Americans' sportman mentality require destroying its opponents completely without giving it a chance for escape or recover. This time the Northern States are going too far which George W. Bush dare not try during his administration. Such casting our of Republicans in Congress will result in Civil War II. It is especially extremely dangerous for Obama to identify himself with A. Lincoln like using to his bible to to swear in as president. Everyone knows that Lincoln started the American Civil War I, in order to match his accomplishment Obama must and will start Civil War II. The Blagojevich case has already shown the harassing and lawlessness nature the furture Obama administration which is extremely likely to cause great internal confcts in the United States. In case of the It is incomprehensible why a person could wish for something so unlucky. As all of you have already know that Obama has already caused the American Great Depresion II. In the case of the Kennedy Family, it is even worse. Joseph Kennedy Sr. had caused the Great Depression I by speculating and short-selling in Wall Street during the 1920-30s initiating the stock crashes. Today, by supporting Obama, the Kennedys have caused Great Depression II. How much more evil and damages can a family accomplish?

  • Posted By: Libricrat @ 12/22/2008 3:28:12 PM

    I believe that a shift in idologies greater than I have yet seen recognized by any medium thus far. The closest I've seen thus far is an article in this publication in which it was said, " The political energy in the country is being harnessed by a younger and more diverse group than it has been in ages past." In short, and similar to my comment about another artcle within this site, the GenXers and those younger, with this election, became politically active. As a Gen Xer myself I believe I can say that while many of Us retain our fiscally conservative values, fewer of us are supporting the social conservatism that has characterized the GOP of the past administration. It's open to debate as much as anything else but, I (and I know I'm not alone on this) believe that the GOP may be gone for good. Time is now for pro second amendment/fiscal conservatives to unite.

    • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 12/22/2008 3:56:25 PM

      That was nice of you to put it those terms. You could have been more direct and said, we're not buying into the GOP's racial and religous bigotry but we are dedicated to fiscal conservatism. The newly emerging party that will come will suit a real American like yourself. the generation Xers happen to be responsible for the racial progress we've made over the past several years.It was one thing for LBJ to sign the Civil Rights Act after MLK set the stage for it. It was the GenXers that practiced the interracial social life that has made it happen. For the past few years, your generation has been unfairly slammed for not having an interest in social issues. Nothing could be father from the truth. while others talk, you iacted.

      • Posted By: YashBudini @ 12/23/2008 9:45:25 AM

        "we're not buying into the GOP's racial and religous bigotry but we are dedicated to fiscal conservatism."
        That's fair and worth considering, but the question becomes exactly what percentage of the vote would the pubs lose had they not catered to the religious whackos and extremists?

        • Posted By: vexact @ 12/31/2008 2:11:37 PM

          this atheistic socialist thinks that the GO Party would gain much more than it loses by kicking the evangelicals, the racists, and the wilfully ignorant to the Kerb.

        • Posted By: vexact @ 12/31/2008 2:09:45 PM

          This "atheistic socialist" thinks that the GO Party would gain much more than it loses by kickin the evangelicals and the racists and th

  • Posted By: vexact @ 12/31/2008 12:39:41 PM

    Evangelical backing? fugedaboudit.

  • Posted By: FranklinAZ @ 12/30/2008 2:58:35 PM

    Your bias and crap continue. I hope the American peopel wise up to the media and your constant telling us how to think. The Republican Party is far from done and far from thrown out of Washington.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/30/2008 6:02:16 PM

      How about we stop insulting Newsweek and worrying about rebuilding the Republican Party. People are smart. If the Republican party is strong and the MSM is liberally biased, they will see through it. Just like they've seen through the "Republican" junk of the past 8 years.

  • Posted By: FranklinAZ @ 12/30/2008 3:00:10 PM

    and this is a great article in conjunction with your powerful people list and not one (if recognizable) Republican is even on the list.

  • Posted By: RalphHightower @ 12/30/2008 9:50:57 AM

    Sanford (R-South Carolina) has accomplished nothing in his six years as governor of South Carolina. Those that are smitten in love with Sanford should read the local news media in South Carolina (it's a piece of cake using the world wide web) instead of the Cato Institute and Club for Growth papers about Sanford. Sanford does not get along with the Republican party in his own state. He prefers to govern by press release and theatrical stunts rather than meeting with members of the SC legislature.

  • Posted By: j.Grassell@sbcglobal.net @ 12/28/2008 11:02:57 AM

    Further readings on ID: www.idthefuture.com/ . It really has been fascinating to me as a physician to watch the...dare I say it?...evolution... of thinking "outside the box" among various lines in the ID community. Michael Behe is the author of DBB. In reply to bkrummel: first of all thanks for the opportunity to have a civil and reasoned discourse online. So many of these comment lines seem to degenerate into playground or worse rhetoric.
    I share some of your distaste to at least the stereotyped image of elements of the conservative coallition. As with ID, however, you might be pleasantly surprised to see what the intellectual right thinks as opposed to what a leftist oriented "mainstream" media tells us they think. Again, I suggest your research focuses on Primary Sources: The Weekly Standard ("Neoconservative"), American Spectator (boomer/libertarian strain), and National Review magazines. Also, I really think you should take a further look at Jindal (more fairly criticized as a policy wonk than a Yahoo: Rhoades Scholar). Also, among those of us who skydive, YAHOO!!!! has a different conotation altogether.

    My regards as we enter the New Era. Concerned about authoritarian and intrusive government? Hang on tight, me thinks you've seen nothing yet.
    j.grassell@sbcglobal.net

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/29/2008 12:53:58 AM

      Thanks for the recommended reading. Glad someone else who prefers thoughtful, rational discourse.

  • Posted By: didimau @ 12/28/2008 12:27:10 PM

    The North vs. The South. As long as the Southern governors and Senators who are Republican continue to support Free Trade over Fair Trade Agreements which gives the other country an advantage over American workers which in turn looses jobs in the U.S., their office will continue to be jeopardy each election.http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081224/OPINION03/812240303/1001

  • Posted By: greatmidwest @ 12/27/2008 4:23:59 PM


    I never realized how screwed up things are with the GOP. If the RNC and Chip Saltsman thinks their racially-toned and ethnically derogatory X-mas CD was satirical they need to stick to their day jobs or else they can kiss the African-American and Hispanic-American electorate (as well as moderate liberal white voters) goodbye in future presdiential elections......I can already sense a Clinton 2016 run. God Bless America.

  • Posted By: j.Grassell@sbcglobal.net @ 12/27/2008 11:43:23 AM

    I'm always curious whether those who pontificate on "Intellegent Design" as the sole province of yahoos have ever truly read some of the literature. The origins of ID lie in an interesting, eclectic and multidisciplinary (mathematics, astrophysics, biochem, etc) group of scholars- a number of them of agnostic and atheist backrounds- who began to question some of the assumptions of a rigid and increasingly sclerotic Darwinian paradigm. Darwin, let us recall, wrote in the 1840's regarding simplistic mechanisms of Natural Selection that are now universally accepted by ALL parties. Newtonian Physics is still valid but must be transcended to understand Quantum Mechanics: a lesson lost on zealots of Darwinism.

    I suggest "Darwin's Black Box" as a first look to those with the intellectual curiosity to actually find out what the fuss is all about

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/27/2008 1:26:08 PM

      If you know of any other rational Intelligent Design literature, I'd be interested. I have been discussing this stuff with some and am curious. I understand some Intelligent Design arguments have been refuted (as some Evolution arguments have been too), but to see some rational and scientific support would be interesting. I'll concede weakness in this area; the rest of my beef with the "yahoos" stands.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/27/2008 1:15:48 PM

      Good point. Thanks for suggesting "Darwin's Black Box"; I'll take a look at it.

      The primary complaint of myself, intellectuals, and atheist is not that the "yahoos" believe in Intelligent Design. The problem is that they are fundamentalist. The fundamentalist wish to impose their world view on the US and as such are a serious threat. They are indoctrinating children in scary ways, as in "Jesus Camp." They are opposed to science and atheism and are a threat to us personally. We are also irked by their irrationality.

      Politically, they want to tell us what we can do in our bedrooms, tell us how to raise our families. and censor our entertainment (I can't watch movies I love on TV at 1am when children are sleeping without the edited dialog; that's wrong). Aside from the fact that they want to tell me how to live, they have marginalized good Republicans like myself. They have embarrassed us with their anti-intellectualism and general stupidity. They don't seem to mind big government as long as they get Roe v Wade overturned, etc, and in fact see the government as a means to their end. I love smart, fiscally and otherwise responsible, limited government and I have no voice for it since Republicans are no longer defined by their principles but by silly litmus tests.

      They can support Intelligent Design if they want; I don't care. But I hate the fact that they have marginalized my voice and threatened my country just to get their way.

  • Posted By: darincoveyjc@cox.net @ 12/26/2008 9:56:17 PM

    There is only one real way to get the change this country needs. Democrats and Republicans must get together and Vote out the top 5 ranking members of each party when they don't get things done. We have moral differences yet issues like the economy and our tax system we can agree on.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/27/2008 1:18:30 PM

      They should also fire most of the congress, which as an over 90% incumbency rate and has done an overall poor job. There's a lot of politicians who need sacked!

  • Posted By: thinkotsdbox @ 12/25/2008 8:30:11 PM

    Newsweak = Newspeak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 12/24/2008 12:44:51 AM

    Testing,One,Two,Three.

    Wassamatta NEWSWEAK. Getting on yer nerves?

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 12/25/2008 5:49:24 PM

      Lee, do you labor under the misconception that most people on these boards give a *** about your insults? By all means keep at it though...that way nobody who thinks like you will have a chance to get elected and blow up the *** world in the next few years by invading Iran or going and looking for those WMDs that you are so sure are buried in the Syrian sands somewhere...

      Maybe we can take the few remaining people cleaning up Katrina and go have them dig around in the trackless North African wastes out there to satisfy your egotistical hatred. God forbid we actually help some people rebuild instead of going and shooting some more people, right?

      Or you could just call us weaklings and cowards and pussies for another few years...whatever works for you.

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/25/2008 4:54:52 PM

    The Republican party has messed up so fantastically over the past 8 years that I don't know where to begin.

    Let's start with the obvious: Bush completely screwed up a number of things. For example, he mismanaged Iraq and Katrina. Some Republican (and Democrat) policies contributed to the current economic situation. Bush will (thankfully!!!) be gone soon, so that all said...

    The Republican party used to be the party of fiscal responsibility and individually liberty. Then we elected Bush who was a big government conservative (that's an oxymoron!) and Bush and the Republican congress got cared away with spending money. Clearly the Republican party needs to rediscover fiscal conservatism.

    Then there's the Religious Right and people like Jindal and Palin. These people are hateful of others and work to undermine individual liberty so that they can force their way on everyone else, contradicting the limited government principles of the Republican party and the U.S. Constitutions. For them to enter our households and bedrooms to make sure we are living in accordance with Jesus is insulting. The Religious Right might be needed to win and social conservatives are welcome in the party, but the moderates and fiscal conservatives are needed too and the Religious Right need to learn to respect them.

    Jindal signing "intelligent design" bills? Palin's embarrassing interviews? This anti-intellectualism in the Republican party is embarrassing and needs to stop. I would never support Jindal or Palin or their type for President and if they try in 2012, I get involved with campaigns to stop them.

    Obviously, the Republican party needs to reach out to African Americans and youth voters (and moderates). Mostly, these means talking to people and addressing their concerns. Ignoring primary debates sponsored by African Americans won't get votes. And talking about social issues and intelligent design rather than individual liberty just alienates young people (including myself). Related to getting youth voters, internet grassroots desperately need to improve.

    Before I finish this insanely long comment, let me warn the Democrats: you could be like the Republican party is too. Don't get too proud of your party and Obama and insult Republican too harshly. Don't follow the party line and Obama too closely or their will go too far and make stupid mistakes as well. And there are good Republicans, so don't overlook the Republicans completely.

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 12/25/2008 5:40:12 PM

      "And there are good Republicans, so don't overlook the Republicans completely."

      Plenty of them, and a lot of *** Dems - like Blago, unless it turns out his deal is some sort of really deep-cover sting.

      No one is completely good or evil, it's always a spectrum. Quite honestly and frankly, I think Obama's real task is going to be dismantling the legacy of Lincoln that was used so well in his time but tends to be used in such a crappy way these days - the expansion of federal power. I wish Southern racists hadn't redefined "states' rights" to mean "we'd like to be bigots and stop getting *** for it". We ALL need to delegate a lot of rights back to the people.

      It goes all the way down though. California's DMV is practically criminal these days in their tactics. The cops will give out three parking tickets in a day for $120 if you happen to have your car in the wrong place. If you don't pay on time, it becomes hundreds in a second, then thousands, then they boot and sell your car while still claiming you owe them thousands. We have a lot of corrupt government and we need to get a LOT angrier about it collectively or they'll just stay dictatorial and parasitic unless they strangle the country with disempowerment and bureaucracy.

  • Posted By: jarcher1 @ 12/24/2008 10:21:44 PM

    Jindal signed an "intelligent design" education bill. The purpose of such a law is to undermine the teaching of evolution in the public schools. Intelligent design is very subtle, the main purpose of the approach is to convince students that questions that have been settled in the scientific community for years are questionable and not necessarily so. Is it any wonder, with politicians like this, that American public education lags in science?

  • Posted By: labman57 @ 12/24/2008 12:42:00 PM

    With respect to my concern over the viability of a Palin run for the office of POTUS in 2012 or 2016, the biggest danger is that the American public has a very short-term memory and doesn't learn from its mistakes very well.

    True, Palin is a moderately savvy politician, but she also is blissfully ignorant about the inner-workings of anything beyond the borders of Alaska. She has the faux folksy charm and lack of intellectual curiosity of George W. Bush and the Machiavellian mindset of Dick Cheney. Do we really want to relive the nightmare of the past 8 years?

    A nation that elected GWB (twice!) is capable of doing some really, really stupid things. So to Alaska and the GOP, I say idolize Goddess Sarah all you want. Fawn over her rambling statements, embrace her ignorance, be uplifted by her Machiavellian philosophy and lack of ethics, revel in her right-wing social extremism and moral self-righteousness, just keep her the hell away from the lower 48.

  • Posted By: scottinclearwater @ 12/23/2008 1:05:57 PM

    Very sloppy reporting. I can tell you firsthand as a gay man in Florida that Charlie Crist did NOT avoid gay marriage. He publicly supported Amendment 2 (the anti-gay marriage amendment) after first claiming to be a "live and let live kind of guy." Crist has turned out to be just what I have suspected his entire public life, someone who would say anything and sell out anyone to advance his own political career. That is not the kind of governor that will save the GOP.

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