this article is terrible on so many levels. but thanks for helping everyone else stereotype black people, because they couldnt do it alone.
this article is terrible on so many levels. but thanks for helping everyone else stereotype black people, because they couldnt do it alone.
It continues to amaze me how many educated people write about race. The issue isn't race, the issue is socio-economic.. The "characters" could be white black or yellow; it is not racial. Perhaps Obama's election can dispel the victum politics of race and simply allow poor behavior and character to stand on its own.
I've heard from a local black Principal that children don't do well in school as their parents didn't do well and so low expectations are passed on. Maybe some of that will now change.
And if they do well, they are chastised for "acting white"
I feel that if people don't want to get married, pushing them to enter into a legal contract isn't going to change their relationship. You have a ceremony and then what? It's still the same relationship. People put so much power into this formality, when the reality is the relationship is more important. Perhaps you should focus more on helping people to find constructive relationships that they want to enter into long term bonds in them pushing them towards a ceremony.
Because the rules make it so much harder and expensive to get out of. Then the guy knows he is really screwed if things don't work out. Great for society, not so great for the guy!
Thank you for the article Maryann. Maybe you should Change the name to Marry Your Baby Momma Day as well. As proved in the article many African American women want to marry the fathers, but the father is the one with the "issues." I love the concept and I am glad you are doing so much to help any in need. I am a single mother, but because of several "issues" (beyond my control) that my children's father had, I decided to put him out! Many African American women are single because os the men end up being deadbeats and the mother and children have to make it any way they can by themselves. I am hoping the Obama wave can activate some kind of change amongst Black men and get them moivated to take care of the children they already have.
You put him out? I guess he was smart not to get married then, wasn't he? How screwed would he be now if he was your ex husband instead of your ex-boyfriend?!
I can't believe there are white people on here commenting that racism does not exist. If you are not racist yourself, congratulations. If you've never actually witnessed racism, you probably have and didn't realize it, but all the same, good for you.
But to think that your individual experience in itself is proof that racism is dead is RIDICULOUS. I am biracial- my mother is black, my father is white, and I've seen MANY, MANY examples of racism in my lifetime, both subtle and obvious (my ex-wife, who is black, was called a "dumb n***er" by some idiot only a few years ago).
Are things BETTER than they were 40, 30 or even 20 years ago? Of course. I'm glad we've made such great strides.
But why do so many white people feel the need to treat something like it doesn't exist, when it simply DOES?
I know the truth may be unpleasant, or inconvenient...but it's still the truth.
Sure it does. But it is no longer a valid excuse. It isn't so overwhelming that anybody is held down by it. There is sexism and ageism and unattractive people are discriminated angainst and so are overweight people. And some people battle health problems or are physically handicapped or have any number of other issues that are obstacles to achievement, but ANYBODY that is phsically able can work hard and be responsible and achieve anything they want to in this country and saying otherwise is simply making excuses.
Newsweek, as an African American male I found this so-called article to be nothing more than TRASH!! If Black Americans needed to wait for a Black President to energize, inspire, motivate, ad infitinum,them, then we as a race of people have a serious cognitive problem THAT NO PRESIDENT, BLACK OR WHITE, can resolve. That age old proverb that simply states, "I HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND THE ENEMY IS ME" has never been more apropos than at this moment in time. WHY DOES ANYONE NEED ANOTHER TO MOTIVATE THEM TO BECOME A MAN OR WOMAN, CAPABLE OF STANDING TALL ON THEIR TWO FEET? This nonsense about "needing"a Black President to inspire one to become an adult is nothing more than a worn out excuse for laziness. It's long past time for African Americans to GET UP AND STAND PROUDLY AS RESPONSIBLE HUMAN BEINGS AND DISCARD THE WELFARE MENTALITY!!!!!
Thanks for the refreshing comment from somebody who knows. If I say it, though, my skin color gets me in trouble.
I would encourage the author to widen the perspective. It's not just an issue of black families in America, it's also an issue of ALL families in America. As an example, here in the middle of Colorado, in this county, only 20% of households with children have both parents in the home, yet only 5% of the population is black. Fully 80% of ALL homes in this area are single parent, or parents that don't live together.
The root issues of the black family are not intrinsic nor exclusive to black men, the root issues are part and parcel of the relationships that black men and black women have with each other. Blaming only one side is not the answer.
Here's food for thought: Why would ANY man want to be married when they know full well that at any time, for any reason, their spouse will ask for a divorce (since two thirds of divorces are asked for by women), and be saddled with all of the financial responsibilities, but none of the benefits, of being a husband and father? The harsh reality is that women don't need men to be fathers or husbands, they can have all of the benefits of being a spouse and mother, with none of the financial responsibilities, because the state and women in society actively promote it through social programs, family courts and the way that men are treated and regarded in general. I would suggest that the author read the works, based upon academic research, of Paul Nathanson and Katherine K. Young, a husband and wife team that have two books out of three of a trilogy on the subject of misandry in American culture. The first one, "Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture", and the second, "Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men", are the first two and can give the author insight as to the root causes of the failure of marriage as an institution.
Please, drop the whole "all black men are afraid of marriage" theme, when in reality, the root cause is that they don't trust women because of the way that they are treated and raised by women. What man would want to be married when for their entire lives, they are taught by women and the media that they are inferior and worthless?
As my father, a black man, said to me 40 years ago, "Don't ever trust a woman, they're evil", and, "Don't argue with a woman, you'll never win".
Seems that nothing has changed in the 40 years since then.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT !
while it may be a bit harsh - He has a vaild point. Why bother getting married when the odds are 50/50 you'll end up divorced, and if your a man- get shafted with alimony etc etc. Its a very woman-friendly, man-hating system that we have in place. I cant blame men for having an anti-marriage attitude.
He does have a good point. Marriage is risky if you are a man. I sure have some stories...
I also think a lot of black women sure have some aggressive and unpleasant attitudes. I would be hesitant to hitch myself to some of them, too. Once you do, you really have to take all their crap.
I agree with Kellymd and PGvoter. The day of generalizing any group is over...It seems that the only focus in times past has been either families from the hood or the stereotypical black family. But, families who are totally opposite are ignored. My family doesn't and hasn't tolerated mediocrity, misuse of their female partners, and poor performance in school. Furthermore, many of the problems in the community are class issues. Matter of fact my oldest son has been interviewed for one of the best schools in America, "Woodberry Forest". Also, like PGvoter, I changed my party from Republican to Independent.
This article is terrible. Does Newsweek have editors? There are many grammatical errors, transitional phrases are off, and the woman???s statistics are completely wrong. Why did she attempt to bring us in with talk about the Obama???s and the holiday???s then change the conversation to converse about baby mommas and daddies and her initiatives? This piece does not logically make sense. Mrs.Reid this is very tasteless. Next time get someone to proofread your work. And, yes, the Obama???s victory is still near and dear in our heart and we have the right to feel this way. Trust me we were working hard before him and we will continue to do so.
You made African Americans look terrible in the piece. Tacky!!!!
The truth hurts.
I have just one word to explain the single parent family, welfare. Welfare pays more to single parents, allows black white green and purple to be socially irresponsible. Rather than being sperm donors and mass producing crotch fruit, we should all think about the potential children we produce and how tough being a single parent is. Research has proven time and time again, that children of single parents (whatever the race) are at a tremendous disadvantage. One solution, if the sperm donor is on welfare, take a percentage of his check for evey out of wedlock child. That would force some social responsibility on the male, maybe by being forced to be financially responsible like all responsible fathers would cut down on the problem. Welfare must end! It is desroying the family structure, work ethic and incentive to better ourselves in this country.
How about everybody get a deduction from their check that goes into an account they cannot touch. If they end up having a child, support comes out of it. If they can keep from doing that, they get the money when they hit retirement age.
This article is horrible. Who edited it? It is chock full of blanket stereotypes. The issues that negatively impact the black community are class issues. Blacks are not monolithic. Poverty is the leading driver for single parent households, unemployment, and crime and it does not matter what color you are. Any editor worth his or her salt would never have let this piece of trash go to print without demanding further research. Broad generalizations about a race of people is not newsworthy, it's just unproven, lazy, and shoddy reporting. As a Black woman in grad school with no baby daddy and no pathology, the only excuse I will be making at Christmas is that I shouldn't have that 3rd glass of spiked egg nog!
This article is horrible. Who edited it? It is chock full of blanket stereotypes. The issues that negatively impact the black community are class issues. Blacks are not monolithic. Poverty is the leading driver for single parent households, unemployment, and crime and it does not matter what color you are. Any editor worth his or her salt would never have let this piece of trash go to print without demanding further research. Broad generalizations about a race of people is not newsworthy, it's just unproven, lazy, and shoddy reporting. As a Black woman in grad school with no baby daddy and no pathology, the only excuse I will be making at Christmas is that I shouldn't have that 3rd glass of spiked egg nog!
To Ms. Reid, by looking at many of the comments posted to your article, you have indeed proven yourself to be a very eloquent writer. If it were the opposite, no one would have commented. Let me say, however, I started to read your article, then abandoned the thought. As a black man in this country, and a successful black man residing in the wealthiest black county in the country, Prince Georges County, Maryland, I have to take exception to the notion that "black families are changing their expectations", after this historical event. I say this because, the expectaions should have always been that of dignity and pride, regardless of the victor to assume the Office of President of the United States. As a matter of record, President elect Obama was very instrumental in my changing political parites, from Republican to Independent.
But, let me attempt to entertain many of the mindless comments I read within. First, it does not matter who is elected President, ignorance will still flourish in this country. One need only read many of the comments to your article. Yet, several of them was true, but lacked a logical progression. But, to assume, as many writers here have, that the welfare pheonemon in this country is a "black" thing, well, demographics will refute their believes. It seems that, when an opportunity arises for people to express their right to free speech, they often abuse any logic that should direct their comments. Neverhteless, people will be people.
Personally, I will not attact any particular person's comment here, but, they know who they are, if their argument lacked logic and was spoken mindlessly.
That's all.
I'm afraid we are all in for an Obama bumpy train ride to hell. The only hope we have is that he truly is a Kennedy.
PunxsutawneyPhil - I agree with you that welfare is the cause but is it possible that its the ABUSE of welfare more than the welfare itself? I completely agree with your stand and wish it was headlines. Two solutions I have thought of is 1. If a man OR woman gives birth to a child while on welfare, the benefits are revoked and the children taken away as this is Child Abuse, pure and simple. 2. There should a statute of limitations on collecting child support that extends 20 years AFTER the CHILD turns 18 and the child should have the right to collect this. The breeding has GOT to stop people. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THESE POEPLE CAN NOT COMMIT TO A PaRTNER FOR LIFE BUT MAKE A DECISION TO SADDLE A CHILD WITH THEM AS A PARENT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE? Narcissism is an understatement. STOP BREEDING...EVERYONE!!!! If you think you have that much to offer a child...adopt! I've seen the gene pools out there and most dont need reproducing....and i'm referring to some of my own relatives!!! I digress. My apologies. I'm happy to see that no on ehere suffers from apathy tho :)
After reading a few of the comments, this goes to prove that, no matter who is elected President of the United States, ignorance will continue to prevail. Single family household and mothers on welfare is color blind. To even suggest that a black woman is more apt to be on welfare, or, a black maternal father is morally responsible for the rise in welfare cost to single families is atrocious. To begin, demographics prove's that to be wrong. Nevetheless, people will often times abuse their First Amendment right to free speech' which by the way is not an absolute right.
I believe, however, if anyone want to attribute President elect Obama is the central force in their lives to become more productive, should look at themselves, not in general, but particularly. I welcome the new Executive Office transition. In fact, I will be out there battling the cold to witness this historic moment. But, who his parents were is of no consequence to me, as a voter. President Obama was not raised in a white society. Nor was he raised in a black society. He was raised in a society. My children were raised in Hawaii while I performed my moral responsibility to supplement their financial upbringing. But, the very fact that we were raised in two different enviornments does not negate the fact that they were raised well, and I fought the challenges of the inner city. They were raised.
To Ms. Reid, I did not complete your entire article because I never had any excuses, when Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, or whomever, was in office. Look in the mirror people. The difference start there.
WOW???!!! I planned to write a short word of encouragement supporting your column and the work you do with unmarried Black couples. I support what you do and believe a positive nudge is all many people need to cross a threshold. The advantages of marriage over ???hooking up??? are so great that it might actually be life changing to the self image. I???m with you, I support you and I wish there was something I could do concretely to lift up what you are doing.
The ???WOW ???that I used when I started writing was in response to the blast of bitterness and racism I read in the comments about your column. The comments weren???t even about your topic; most were just a general ???shout out??? on what was wrong with black people. Does that happen every time you publish something positive or hopeful about Black people on a national stage? The comments following your column remind me how unfortunately some people turn their lack of happiness or satisfaction with their own life into bile and venom.
Our great country still has a long way to go and a lot of growing up to do. You just keep doing your part and I???ll keep supporting you and I???ll keep doing my part.
Harold619
@danny12,
The reality in this country is that Obama was categorized at birth as African American (AA). With respect, you seem to fail to recognize that almost all native born AAs are of mixed race, b/c at some point the White rooster came into the Black henhouse and spread his seed. Obama knows and recognizes this, as do many AAs in this country. It is unavoidable, but this stigma is given to a person on his/ her birth certificate, and continues from there. While I agree with you on the technical aspect of your argument, I find it convenient that those who may be uncomfortable with the idea of having an AA President in office are now going out of their way to claim he is white. People use issues like race when it suits them, and that is unfortunate. We need to have a discussion about race, not talk about who's more Black or White than the next person.
Excuse me...Mr Obama was not the product of a rooster in the hen house Sir! His mother was white and he was raised by that white mother! Mr Obama is not mixed and watered down from slavery days! And his black father choose not to raise him! Typical isn't it?
Mr and Mrs Obama have a solid marriage because they are both highly educated! The odds are in their favor but if we want to exclude Mr Obama's white side (shhh...he was born to a white mommy and raised in white society) well then statistically their marriage will fail once Mr Obama goes to jail for some sort of domestic violence or drug trafficking!
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