The most distressing thing is that we have the same geniuses in charge. I guess that an Ivy League degree doesn't mean everything.
The most distressing thing is that we have the same geniuses in charge. I guess that an Ivy League degree doesn't mean everything.
The New York Times,trying to establish themselves as Obaman footsoldiers,wrote an article in the Monday edition so excreable in its revisionism in the past two presidencies roles bearing upon regulation that it is currently being beat up on by everybody from the liberal SLATE,to FORBES and BLOOMBERG ,to INVESTORS-BUSINESS DAILY ,as it confines its revisionism-by-culprits solely to the Bush administration,which is garbage,as any thinking person would have observed.
Key in the failures of the mortgage end of the meltdown was the Community Reinvestment Act, a Clinton-era vehicle championed by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who now sit as key players in guiding further congressional regulatory policies. It was to these that portfolio regulation at FANNIE and FREDDIE,and more importantly,the means to discern borrower ability to maintain payment,was tossed out the window by Frank and Dodd. The insanity of allowing signature home loans to people who did not even have wage verification oversight by F and F and FHA banks was one of the fast crumbling foundations that soon brought the whole edifice down
Worse,is the looming spectre of Rubinomics Redux,as Obama now places Bob Rubin back in the saddle and several of the old-guard Clinton cronies who were at the heart of the original 1990s mess that included the repeal of GLASS-STEAGALL,backed by long-gone GOP senator Gramm of Texas,but most forcefully championed by Rubin,who is again in government. Obama is now being hit by both sides in the Rubin fray. By fiscal conservatives,as well as the far left.[DAILY KOS for instance,wrote a scathing editorial warning Obama to ditch Rubin post haste,as did TRUTHOUT and DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND].
Obama must move immediately to rein in slipshod F and F and FHA practices. FDIC-backed transactions within-national and international banking systems must be not only brought under oversight and regulation,but scrutinized to observe the flow of terrorism monies through the overseas banks,with each member nation creating a sort of INTERPOL for banking institutions,warning of currency gaming,illegal stock transfers and their dividends ,criminal enterprises, and an overdependance on ''free money''. Merkel gets kudos for trying here.
Wake Up!
CRA was Carter-era regulation and it has served the nation well ever since. The idea that this economic crisis is the hell spawn of "too much" regulation is just the last, dying fantasy of the Reagan Revolution.
Reagan brought deregulation to Washington (remember: "government is the problem") and yes, there were Democrats like Bill Clinton who bought the hype (remember: "the era of big government is over"), but don't confuse the student (Clinton) with the master (Reagan).
As for Georgie? Well, we all know he slept his way through school and so he has no ideological fingerprints on this crisis. But if you are looking for fingerprints of incompetence, your boy George is the best starting point. From removing an SEC chair (William Donaldson) who actually wanted to do some regulation to appointing the last of a series of ever more worthless Treasury Secretaries across his eight-years in office, it is hard to find one man who has done so much damage to our economy in history.
And I have not even mentioned the outrageous expenditures he has left us with for two wars, both waged more on faith than on planning and one of which was wholly based on fictitious threats he concocted to scare himself and the public.
Thanks George. Don't let that door hit you on the way out.
er... you do know that most of the lenders writing sub-prime (and rather predatory) loans were not coverened under the CRA, no? I didn't think you did. For no thinking person could write such a post if they had that critical piece of information., as it completely invalidates the assertion that the CRA was at the heart of the sub-prime melt down.
er... you do know that most of the lenders writing sub-prime (and rather predatory) loans were not coverened under the CRA, no? I didn't think you did. For no thinking person could write such a post if they had that critical piece of information., as it completely invalidates the assertion that the CRA was at the heart of the sub-prime melt down.
Our management system needs to be reinvented NOW!! Regulation needs to be a part of the control phase in this governance system
Since past governance models did not prevent the crisis, a new 21st century governance system is needed. A 9-step corporate governance model that provides a no-nonsense integration of scorecards, strategic planning, business improvement, and control is described in the link below, ???Economic Crisis and Change Management.???
( http://www.smartersolutions.com/blog/forrestbreyfogle/?p=541 )
Our management system needs to be reinvented NOW!! Regulation needs to be a part of the control phase in this governance system
Since past governance models did not prevent the crisis, a new 21st century governance system is needed. A 9-step corporate governance model that provides a no-nonsense integration of scorecards, strategic planning, and business improvement is described in the link below, ???Economic Crisis and Change Management.???
http://www.smartersolutions.com/blog/forrestbreyfogle/?p=541
It has now become apparent that our entire capitalist economy is one big Ponzi scheme. Unless prices keep going up, everything falls apart. Bursting bubbles is what we are told, all full of hot air. We???re told it???s patriotic to go out and spend as much as we can. From the view here on the street, falling prices are very welcome and saving our money seems to make common sense.
Isn't it amazing that now the best we can do is explain why we did not pay more attention to what Born was trying to tell us? I also find it incredulous that Greenspan is so shocked and disbelieving that market adjustment and economic slowdown should be a part of a "self regulating" market.
Let's see if I understand this.
Born, a woman, "sought comment from different government agencies on how best to regulate derivatives." A Rubin champion says, "her proposal should not have been shot down so abruptly, and that "everybody kind of exploded at her." "
Then we have Merkel, another woman, who proposed that "international banks supply authorities with more information about their transactions. She "got her head handed to her by Bush and [then-British Chancellor] Gordon Brown and Paulson," says former IMF chief economist Ken Rogoff."
Reminds me of another famous woman, Cassandra, who had the power of prophesy, a gift from Apollo. But when she didn't return his love, he cursed her: she would keep her gift, but no one would believe her; she was forever doomed to tell the future knowing she would be scorned and rejected.
Got to hand it to the Ancient Greeks - they sure understood human nature.
Greenspan also has a new, if belated, understanding of human nature: he states he is shocked that the financial industry was not able to regulate itself.
It seems prudent in the coming days to keep the most fundamental of ideas about the nature of humans firmly in mind, from the venerable Murphy - whatever can go wrong, will, at the most inconvenient time. It seems equally prudent that we go out of our way to make sure the naysayers, the doubters, the pessimists, and the outsiders have a seat at the table.
And finally, although the Obama financial team includes the top 'minds' and the 'most respected' names in the financial business, too many of them were at the table during the Clinton and/or Bush regimes - common sense would say that if they haven't renounced their old ways - like Greenspan has - they will be doomed to repeat them.
Or maybe, we just need more women at the table, like Born and Merkel. And Cassandra.
C. MacLean, although I am a man I agreed with Born and Merkel and others. On the other hand, it was a female executive at one of the major investment banking firms who at a 2001 corporate conference stood at the podium and gleefully announced, "Finally government has deregulated the financial markets and is allowing business people to do what business people do." When I heard those words, the words 'uh oh' went through my head. That was in the summer just before 9/11. I agree that women often have more sense about things but there were plenty of women working in investment banking who preached the gospel of deregulation because it suited their greed just fine, just as was the case with so many men. Many women like many men would not have gotten into the profession if there was not a ton of money to be "made".
On another note we need to take a hard look at wall street and ask ourselves, should these people be making such exorbitant amounts of money while teachers, fireman, policemen, blue collar workers struggle to make ends meet for contributing value to our society? My answer is no. My answer to the question of regulating the market is, it has become all too obvious that we need to regulate. We regulate everything else. We have police and a criminal judicial system to regulate society in an attempt to keep ourselves from being harmed by people whose social values are less than acceptable. There are plenty of people, male and female, with less than acceptable social values drawn to wall street. I hope we've learned that lesson.
onemind - thanks for the reminder: greed, and selflessness, have no gender identity, and there are plenty of examples of both by both genders.
Also, thanks for you comments about teachers, police, et al. As a registered nurse (and may I say, one who knows the gifts and the excesses of working in an all-estrogen environment) I have often wondered about salary inequities: I don't begrudge assembly line workers who make $30/hr for an honest day's pay, just wish I did, too, but I often wonder about high salary executives - why is what they do more valuable than what I do?
Just one more Mystery of the Universe, I guess.
C. MacLean, Thanks. Nurses are certainly more valuable than financial executives...and less arrogant from my experience. I'll try to keep this short.
The year (not long after 9/11) Lehman Brothers laid off a lot of it's support staff and replaced them with an outsourcing program in India, expanded later to include the Philippines and another country, the execs received record compensation packages for "saving the company money". Money was not saved but it looked good on paper shown to the shareholders. Indians were trained to do the work and Indian managers were trained to quality check the work before sending it back to the New York headquarters. However, those of us who hadn't been laid off yet had to drop what we were doing to quality check again the work that came back anyway and guess what. 9 out of 10 times the work needed to be corrected or needed to be redone entirely. I asked once at a meeting how much longer we would have to continue to quality check the work that came back. The answer was that it will always be done this way. Not only was this redundant but because the work was being checked in India and then New York, the company was now paying New York salaries *AND* Indian salaries. It was often more difficult and time consuming to fix the work that came back than if we were to have done it ourselves in the first place. Adding to that was the fact that as soon as most of the people from India got 6 months to a year of experience under their belts they were able to find better paying jobs which meant a lot of turnover and thus a lot of retraining from scratch. Add to that the morale amongst the employees left in New York and other offices hit an all time low and never recovered.
My point is, executives are definitely not worth what they get paid and certainly not more valuable than you in what you do. They take what they can get and learn to play the game well but intrinsically? How can someone working 40 hours a week at anything be worth $40,000/year while someone else is worth $30,000,000/year or even $5,000,000/year? It's absurd. It's smoke and mirrors and as has been pointed out, American workers are being told they need to get their salaries in line with those in Japan or even India or Mexico but American execs are not asked to do the same.
No wonder kids have been pressured by peers and parents to get MBAs even when many have talents that lay elsewhere, which btw is a talent drain on our society but that is another story.
I really like your comments, I have learnt alot. I happen to have an MBA from one the top French Grande Ecole Business Schools and I noticed the stress that was placed on a lack of empathy by my peers. If you had any and you happened to be a woman (as in my case) you were made out to look like a loser who didn't want to get ahead--this was particularly the case from my Indian and Chinese peers.
However, there is a new kind albeit minority, kind of business grads heading into the market and we have values. We are not necessarily rich from the get go so we understand the value of hard work and sacrifice and we care about the common man. We are the future and we will be doing our bit to change things, so don't think of this situation as being static, we will be the new breed of leaders.
Okay, you win, MacLean. Tomorrow we're firing all the men, including the president, and replacing them with all women. It was the testosterone that did it. We want the estrogen. That'll take care of it. Thanks for being there.
I'm not in favor of firing anyone, just want some alternate views included.
I confess, the male/female thing was a little tongue-in-cheek - I'm sure there were plenty of men sounding alarms that weren't listened to, but this article happened to mention two women, and the parallel to Cassandra was too good to ignore.
On the other hand, women are supposedly naturally more fiscally conservative, so maybe including a few women (notice I didn't say replacing a few men) along with the men wouldn't be a bad thing.
Tongue in cheek says it all for me, too, C.MacLean. It sometimes spices up the blogs a little and helps to dampen the harshness of some of our contributors. It takes both the girls and the boys to either make it or break it. It was lonely before the girls joined in on all this fun. Let freedom ring.
C. MacLean, although I am a man I agreed with Born and Merkel and others. On the other hand, it was a female executive at one of the major investment banking firms who at a 2001 corporate conference stood at the podium and gleefully announced, "Finally government has deregulated the financial markets and is allowing business people to do what business people do." When I heard those words, the words 'uh oh' went through my head. That was in the summer just before 9/11. I agree that women often have more sense about things but there were plenty of women working in investment banking who preached the gospel of deregulation because it suited their greed just fine, just as was the case with so many men. Many women like many men would not have gotten into the profession if there was not a ton of money to be "made".
On another note we need to take a hard look at wall street and ask ourselves, should these people be making such exorbitant amounts of money while teachers, fireman, policemen, blue collar workers struggle to make ends meet for contributing value to our society? My answer is no. My answer to the question of regulating the market is, it has become all too obvious that we need to regulate. We regulate everything else. We have police and a criminal judicial system to regulate society in an attempt to keep ourselves from being harmed by people whose social values are less than acceptable. There are plenty of people, male and female, with less than acceptable social values drawn to wall street. I hope we've learned that lesson.
Just one more facet of the economy requiring more not less attention. Unlike the urgent prolblems, aka Detroit big three the financial regulatory appartchiks have more influence to promote long term growth and stability than any fast infusion of capital. The hope for reforms such as shareholder rights, restraint of corporate executive pay (to world norms) and regulation benefiting American humans as citizens. The corporation with personhood granted by the supreme court will be the "citizens" granted regulatory benefit just as in the past (ie clinton era). with the same bureacrats in power once again. My oponion is that snow in Baghdad presaged the hard won armed peace we have today. If the future is going to be retread of the 90's no minor miracle or hard work, (like bahdad or najaf) will suffice.
When you have banks refusing to tell Congress just how the bail out money is being spent, and banking CEO's getting 1.8 billion dollars worth of perks, the very idea of any regulation won't go over well at all. Why should it when you have congressional quislings who lack the backbone to stand up for the rights of investors, and home owners and who cave in to the demands of the powerful banking lobby. They walk away with millions, and we walk away with our dreams destroyed, homes foreclosed, savings and retirement wiped out, dancing to the tune of financial pied pipers who have led us on a road to recievership and ruin. Re-regulation cannot come soon enough.
History Lesson 101. Seems not much has changed...
Sapientia Romana
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled,
public debt should be reduced,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on
public assistance."
Cicero - 55 BC
Alas, the book shall be written in this century:
THE RISE AND FALL OF THE UNITED STATES
In your little 'history' lesson, you forget that it was during this time period that the irreversable transfer of wealth and power in Rome went from the bulk of the population and into the hands of a few families, who bought and sold political position while paying bribes to the 'original' proletariate to vote for them for office. Julius Caesar for example paid the equivalent of $50,000,000 for the office of proconsul during this period, and trust in 'military' leaders had reached its peak. Fatal corruption ALWAYS starts at the top, because only the elites have the power to twist society to their own private greedy ends.
It's amazing that there are so many idiots in high-level positions in our country. These guys have cost us SO much money. I think they should be stripped of their jobs, any retirement benefits and any financial gains they've realized during their tenure. It's a small price to pay for a worldwide financial meltdown.
The Republican (and some Democrats) manipulated a global market melt-down....now we have a mess that's going to take a very long time to fix. The coming Administration knows the steps that must be taken, but are the citizens of our Country willing to bare the pain before the money markets are turned around? Let's hope the healing begins quickly.
The pain that gets borne is the pain that can't be alleviated. We will continue to ride this horse until it collapses from exhaustion after the remedial measures are taken which allow us to extend the excess credit folly as we try to revive the economy by buying things in this economy which is based 60% in the purchase of consumer goods. The politicians in power will not let us suffer pain even if it kills us to avoid it. Finally, after there are no more measures available to postpone the inevitable, she crashes. Not quite yet. Then, after the last credit card is swiped and all the credit is gone, we can have our pain and whoever is in office then can blame it on those who preceded in office. We've done this before. Takes years to repeat itself.
A group of people who manipulate money in order to increase their wealth and power, own America\s govt. If Obama does not legislate moraly from a bully pulpit, there will be no change.
Greespan sold the wealthy everything they asked for. Madoff is an angel, compared to Greenspan.
What Madoff did was quite bad. Compared to him though, Greenspan is a baby eating monster.
Who's going to watch the watchers? When different political administrations take over and water down any regulations that are put in place, what will happen? Disaster....again and again and again.
Who's going to watch the watchers? If varying political administrations water down regulations to benefit themselves, what will change? Nothing.
Greenspan, Rubin, Clinton, Paulsen, Bush....a bi-partisan bunch if there ever was one. you blind partisans out there should quit trying blame Repubs or Demos for this mess. Plenty of blame on both sides. The biggest problem was failure to understand that there is always a small percentage of people in any endeavor who are willilng to cheat to get ahead. Finance, sports, politics, science. All fields have their cheats. This is why effective regulation is absolutely required. along with prosecution and punishment for the cheaters.
Yeah yeah- this didnt happen under Bushes watch. Just like 9/11, Katrina, an uneeded war based on subversion and duplicity, the Enron crisis,
the financial crisis, etc etc... yeah yeah Bush had nothing to do with it! Disgusting!
So, another prove that Bush was not responsible for deregulation and "derivatives", it was Clinton administration doing. Most likely, it was not even Clinton fault, it is in capitalism nature to look for evry llophole for profit. Derivatives will be outlawed - they will find another loophole which will blow up in 50 years. Deregulation only will slow recovery.
It's way past time to rein in the criminal money changers as we've now seen how deregulation only allows the criminal element to screw everything up for the rest of us. The repugnant ones only want to allow criminals to steal all they can get away with without anyone being the wiser because no one is minding the store. This whole credit derivative garbage is nothing but a fancy new term for junk bonds. and we know what happened over 25 years ago with them. I'm so glad that Obama is coming in to clean up the mess that the bushwhacker and "Herman Munster" Paulson made along with "Criminal Lover" Greenspan. Just look at how the repugnant ones made sure that the big banking criminals who brought about this mess didn't ahve any strings attached to our bailout money so they can keep on paying themselves huge bonuses they don't deserve.
I might mention that the book mentioned below, "The Ascent of Money", really touches on your blog. The sections on Bonds and Stocks are pretty good. Reaches back into the origin of the markets and lets us know that the insiders, the frauds and the crooks have been there from the beginning. Guess they just wear different styles of clothing. The rest seems current, even from the 1600's. Not a bad read.
However, the markets will persist and be helpful to productive societies. The summary of it all is that you just have to be extremely studious to invest wisely, and vigilant. Always vigilant. Most of the victims go to sleep on the investment with an innocent confidence. The fish show us that the most voracious get fed mostly on the least aware of the prey. So she goes. Human nature at its usual, and I guess, piscine nature as well.
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