AMERICA AND ITS IMAGE

Where Bush Was Right

Both candidates ran against him. But on a few issues they'd do well to follow W.

By David Frum | NEWSWEEK
Published Dec 31, 2008

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  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/08/2009 3:02:49 PM

    ONLY MRS.BUSH CAN SAY WHETHER HE WAS ANY GOOD IN BED BUT OTHERWISE BUSH WAS A TOTAL NOUGHT AND JUST DID ACTIVE DAMAGE

  • Posted By: Apolitical @ 04/14/2009 2:39:48 PM

    You are absolutely right. Bush is at least got it right on something that I don't care about or at 1,001th concern of any other American. And Mr. Frum you seem to belong in the same league in terms of intelligence as Bush, Palin. Reagan and Quayle. Any more of these kind and we'll be a third world country soonest.

  • Posted By: doodlehead @ 03/26/2009 2:43:25 AM

    Americans are the problem with America today. Better all start learning mandarin.

  • Posted By: Daphne Kenward @ 03/19/2009 2:05:07 PM

    If you accept socal handouts or not, is a matter of choice, and personal circomstances. Barney Franks, and Nancy, and Dodd, have their agendas. But till Americans demand fair Democratic elections, without the influwence of AIPAC and all these corrupt organisation, where the American President is more answerable to Israel than the people of America, this is what youre goint to get huge bailouts fro rich Bankers so every man woman and child become slaves to pay interest for loans, you never borrowed, and interest on loans for a life of constant wars around the world. And Americans lives worth nothing except to die fighting for oil companies in America. America has more chance of turning into a fascist state than a socialist one, or Communist.

    Medical treatment is cheaper in every other country on earth, I would not knock the chance of every one having the ability of getting treatment, your ability to pay huge sums for what you can get cheaper else where is not garanteed. Having a good job today does not mean you will have the same luck for life.

    People who lost their jobs who were paying their mortgage before is no fault of their own, many have lost out due to this engineered recession, by the Rich Bankers and AIPAC, to take over homes land.

    I care not who makes your laws as long as I control the money. But who controles the money ultimately controls the country. One former President said he sold out his country, to Bankers who will cause the people of America and their children to end up living on the streets, because the Bankers knows exactly when to pull in the money out of circulation causing recessions at will. Keeping the cycle of poverty on going. 78 Million baby boomers was due to retire, 2009 what is the best way to make sure you never have to pay them what they should get, you engineer a recession 41K almost worthless.

  • Posted By: phd7 @ 01/15/2009 3:03:50 PM

    How does anyone in their right mind think that President Clinton forced banks to give loans to people that couldn't afford them? Oh yeah... they listen to the nut jobs like Rush (gimme drugs) Limbaugh. The bad loans that set off this mess had ARMS that reset in 2 to 5 years. The last of the bad loans will reset in the next year or two. DO THE MATH!!! These loans were all made during the Bush administration. It was only the greed fostered by the Bush administration and the lack of oversight paid for by lobbiests that got us in this mess. And for the idiots that want to say that "the democrats are running congress...", just remember, republicans had control of the White House, Congress and judicial system for the majority of President Bush's tenure.

    • Posted By: 24546 @ 03/15/2009 11:19:07 PM

      I can't believe how nieve you are to believe all the garbage you wrote. We are headed down the path of distruction by believing all woes are solved by putting down those who have bettered themselves without expedting something for nothing. I have worked hard all my life as a simgle for several years two jobs. I didn't ask for welfare I paid for my childrens medical treatment and i didn't get child support because I didn't ask for it. Yet I am now expected to except the lies that the ecomomic situation wasn't created by Barney Frank, Nancy Palocy, and the Dems. Give me a break. They created this whole mess by forcing banks to lower guidelines for loans allowing people to buy homes they could never afford. IDue to this I have lost my retirement and now am expected to pay for their houses too. No thanks. I am mad as hell and I am not taking socialism without a fight!!!!

    • Posted By: claymak @ 01/15/2009 3:20:27 PM

      Check your facts. Clinton required Freddie Mae and Mac starting back in 1999 to give homes loans to people who didnt qualify for them. This went on for years.

      • Posted By: iamsharper @ 01/15/2009 4:45:10 PM

        But it was the breakdown of the firewall between Commercial and Investment banks that caused all the damage. When mortgages were repackaged into what became toxic investments that is what cause the problem. It is not the loans themselves that still required some oversight (the was no mandate to give out loans that would not be repaid, just relax the standards) but with the self interested of being concerned they would be paid back taken away banks went crazy handing out cash. This deregulation happened on bushes watch is is the reason for the melt down no mater what Rush has been selling you.

        • Posted By: lvrplfc4l @ 02/23/2009 8:01:25 AM

          The repeal of Glass-Steagall was signed by Pres Clinton, pushed by Tres Sec Rubin and helped through Congress by Sen Gramm a truly bi-partisan effort. This bill lowered the restriction on banks so blaming Bush for this is a stretch. There are plenty of things Pres Bush is to blame for but this in not one of them. I always found it interesting that Citigroup led the push to gut Glass-Steagall and Sec Rubin left government to work for them, the same Rubin who is an economic adviser to Pres Obama. When will people learn it's not Democrat/Republican but rich/poor.

      • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 6:11:36 AM

        I'd also like to point out that a lot of people being foreclosed on are not low income families with bad credit

    • Posted By: OneWrld7 @ 01/15/2009 3:09:46 PM

      Thank you.

  • Posted By: ron_inmd@hotmail.com @ 02/25/2009 10:29:27 AM

    Unfortunately, twice in the the last 24 hours, I've been reminded of the PT Barnum saying, you can't underestimate the intelligence of the American people. First was at Food Lion where I bought a ton of stuff for under 8 bucks, second is reading these posts. I'm 51, only a regiistered Republican and it's a shame and more that the fiscally conservative are now actually the rich ensurers of the world. Spending is now the NEW republican legacy, deficits mean nothing as long as your supporters and donators are getting their bucks for bucks quid pro quo. R's, cry all you want about the lazy welfare recipients, but , and you don't know this as you are too sheltered by Fox News and GOP propoganda but way more money is wasted on the conslutants that the Government pays and has paid for decades to those who are in the pockets of the Gop party. An IT worker for the Government makes 60K a year, The paid consultants make up to 200K and their companies make 400-600K for the same worker. Well, that's not welfare, that's capitalism, to enrich by 2-4 times the worker and another 2-8 times the company that provides a worker. Let me cry for the unwed mother getting 30 K in benefits for 5 kids, and not for the connected millionaires ripping off the taxpayer and congratulated for being a successful entreprenuer. Ryhmes with Manure which is what we all are eating to buy the multiple homes for the Good Republicans. Bush was great, if you were his buddy and profited from this highly unsuccessful at everything he tried siler spooner. A Texan, what a joke, he's from Connecticutt....nothing persoanl CT'ers.

  • Posted By: Bushy15 @ 02/17/2009 1:57:07 PM

    You forgot about the war on terror, immegration, stem cell research, the soft bigotry of low expectations, no child left behind, Iran, North Korea and on and on.

  • Posted By: Mini Ster @ 01/21/2009 9:41:11 PM

    I tahnk the writer for writing this piece on what former President Biush got right. There are other things he did right and one of them is fhe single-largest act of ocean conservation in history. President Bush and his ansministration put aside 84 million acres around Hawaii. I find that thrilling. It's a beautiful area and very important to preserve. Fornmer President Bush was honored by the NAACP. I dare anybody out there to find out why. So many other things he did right. I am one of the few people who agree with the war in Iraq. The war has enabled a necessary freedom for people there. While we all hope for that nation to overcome it's troubles, President Bush is not to blame for them.

    One more thing...... while I'm not happy that President Obama is in office, I'm will not be slandering him or booing him. I'm outraged that the American poeple booed President Bush when he was introduced at the inauguration. I believe it casts an even bigger shadow on our nation's conscience. It shows the arrogance we walk in. The worst, most dangerous laws and governing of modern times in this nation have not taken place Washington DC, but from California and Massachusetts.

    One day we will understand, most likely when it's too late, that we are to blame for our own woes. If you don't agree that's okay, but there's no need to be beligerent, ugly, ignorant, intolerant. I've had people tell me what to think and not think, well, it's not up to you what I think or don't think. I'm just not intereseted in what people have to say if they can't do it with respect. I will use my right to freedom of speech like anyone else here. Let's keep it polite. Good night all.......

  • Posted By: Mini Ster @ 01/21/2009 9:39:59 PM

    I tahnk the writer for writing this piece on what former President Biush got right. There are other things he did right and one of them is fhe single-largest act of ocean conservation in history. President Bush and his ansministration put aside 84 million acres around Hawaii. I find that thrilling. It's a beautiful area and very important to preserve. Fornmer President Bush was honored by the NAACP. I dare anybody out there to find out why. So many other things he did right. I am one of the few people who agree with the war in Iraq. The war has enabled a necessary freedom for people there. While we all hope for that nation to overcome it's troubles, President Bush is not to blame for them.

    One more thing...... while I'm not happy that President Obama is in office, I'm will not be slandering him or booing him. I'm outraged that the American poeple booed President Bush when he was introduced at the inauguration. I believe it casts an even bigger shadow on our nation's conscience. It shows the arrogance we walk in. The worst, most dangerous laws and governing of modern times in this nation have not taken place Washington DC, but from California and Massachusetts.

    One day we will understand, most likely when it's too late, that we are to blame for our own woes. If you don't agree that's okay, but there's no need to be beligerent, ugly, ignorant, intolerant. I've had people tell me what to think and not think, well, it's not up to you what I think or don't think. I'm just not intereseted in what people have to say if they can't do it with respect. I will use my right to freedom of speech like anyone else here. Let's keep it polite. Good night all.......

  • Posted By: ofourearth @ 01/17/2009 11:54:20 AM

    In my opinion, and for desparetly obvious reasons, the author of this piece is as out of touch with reality just as much as Bush and Cheney have been. Do you sir own stock in Halliburton and Blackwater? Reading your three accolades only brings more fear, and it is obvious that the political powers to be will rule by these means for a long time to come.
    The Iraq INVASION was not just a mistake. The DEREGULATION of banking practices and environmental policies were not a mistake. The Katrina debacle was not a mistake.
    I could gone on for another eight years, but I have to go find another JOB!!!
    Duane

    • Posted By: renojmc @ 01/18/2009 11:20:41 AM

      I'm not surprised you have to find another job. I'd find a way to get rid of you too.

      • Posted By: ofourearth @ 01/19/2009 2:30:37 PM

        hey renojmc, I happen to be self employed and have had to lay off my staff. Please, educate me and explain why it's the dems that have caused the demise of my business. I will guess that the quality of the lives and you and yourfamily have benifited from the stellar work the Bush/Cheney administration has afforded you. Just understand this has not been the case for millions of now out work Americans.
        Duane

    • Posted By: trueconserv @ 01/18/2009 11:07:42 PM

      I have to comment on your idiotic post. First, when is it a crime to have stock in a company. Halliburton is sometimes the ONLY company that can do certain types of jobs in the world. Next, if you have a problem with that, then ask for Senator Dodds resignation and Barney Frank that didn't want regulation on Fanny and Freddie. The CEO's of those companies are in democratic party circles. President Bush just enacted the Iraqi Liberation Act that was done by Clinton. The U.S. made on it's committmetn set by the Original UN. resolution that ended the Gulf War. You may want to educate yourself on history and facts!

  • Posted By: Sinibaldi @ 01/19/2009 10:52:08 AM

    Il fait déjà jour....

    J'écoute la lumière
    qui revient dans
    l'école, avec
    douces mélodies
    d'un respect
    matinal: j'attends
    le moment, il
    fait déjà jour....

    Francesco Sinibaldi

    http://forum.afrik.com/index.php?topic=41.0

  • Posted By: zengerlem@sbcglobal.net @ 01/19/2009 10:31:28 AM

    It says a lot when Bush's first speec writer can come up with only 3 things Bush did right.

  • Posted By: max123 @ 01/19/2009 8:46:24 AM

    The Bush Administration and AIPAC are the perpetrators of 911, unjust invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, trying to cause problems with Iran, causing world economy turmoil, ruining the US economy,war mongers, funding Haliburton, Exxon Mobile and all Zionist greedy US corporations stealing resources of Iraqi ppl and you want us to credit Bush ???????? Why should Pakistan help the US when US keeps killing its ppl and invaded the Middle East to steal the natural resources all in the false pretext of fighting terrorism when they're the ones who create terrorism and put puppet regimes against the rights of their ppl and expect ppl to put up with that crap. We support the Israel govt to go kill innocent ppl when its for our special interests and we are such hypocrites talking about human rights when all we care and worship is our dollar which isn't even worth much anymore!!

  • Posted By: voldemort @ 01/15/2009 3:05:04 PM

    Bush spent his time in office cleaning up after clinton and co.. The wall street meltdown came as a result of clinton's idiotic policies about housing. 9/11 was caused by clinton and felons gutting the intelligence budget. I guess he needed the money for whores. Bush had the right idea in the middle east and if he would have had correct intel maybe things would have been different. Bush did calm down the middle east for a while and was on track to create a peace settlement palestine. Maybe the sucessor will be successful in the attempt for peace. He has an 'in' being a terrorist and from the region.

    • Posted By: jwalker8680 @ 01/15/2009 3:12:50 PM

      Yes. Very ignorant. Why is it that Republican's always take credit for the great result of the Democratic president and shift blame of the current presidents mistakes to the previous Dem? ... or they try to blame the house and senate. Clinton's presidency producted unbridled economic growth, low unemployment, a balanced budget and shrinking national debt. Since bush took over we invaded two countries, increased the national debt beyond any in history and unemployment is through the roof. You can't possibly blame our current circumstances on the highly successfull president of over 8 years ago.

      • Posted By: Cauthon @ 01/17/2009 1:58:30 PM

        "Clinton's presidency produced unbridled economic growth"

        Maybe you can help me with that. I never heard Clinton or anyone else tell us anything that he did that had anything to do with the prosperity of the 90's. Clinton was president during the dot-com bubble in the economy, so we are all supposed to believe he created it. Apparently that is too big a stretcher for even Bill Clinton, because he won???t actually say it.

        Of course, he does not offer to take credit for the recession when the bubble burst.

        2009 will be a lot like 2001, a new president will come in and find a recession waiting, like a cow-pie sitting on his desk, caused by a bubble in the economy. We recovered from the 2001 recession, even though it was exacerbated by the 9/11 attacks, because - as FDR said of the dust bowl drought - we Americans are good at overcoming our troubles and surviving. The fundamentals of our economy were strong enough to get us through; but if Bush had raised taxes in 2001, as Hoover did, (we do have some history to guide us) and as Obama promises to do when he has the chance, we would not be looking at a new recession in 2008/2009, we would still be trying to get out of the old one from 2001. That is the truth, but Bush???s political enemies in the Democrat party, including many who work in the news industry, have used the big lie technique so enthusiastically for those 7 years that many people do not trust the tactics that got us out of other recessions to be our best choice now. Obama???s plan to give money to people and hope they will spend it (the Dreaded Trickle-Down Economics :-) may stimulate some activity, but it is demand-side stimulation and will tend to cause inflation. Cutting the capital gains tax (right, one of the taxes that Obama plans to raise, not cut) would promote investment, business growth, employment, and the availability of more goods and services, reducing inflation.

        We often hear that some of the conservatives are dissatisfied with the Republicans and might stay home on election day to send a message. With the Democrats resurrecting Herbert Hoover to run for president again, this should have been a great year for Republicans. Instead, the voters who were angry about the economy chose to vote for the party of higher taxes; and those who were angry about high fuel prices voted for the party of high fuel prices; and the people who thought Bush spent too much money voted for the party of profligate spending. Considering all that was against our party this year, starting at the top with the chance to vote for a historic African-American for president (I would have enjoyed doing that, but I disagree with Obama on just about every issue; I would not have voted for him if he had been as white as his fellow celebrity, Paris Hilton, or as black as my freshman roommate.), and the above noted damage from the news media, we should feel good about doing as well as we did.

        • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 6:07:15 AM

          "Obama's plan to give money to people and hope they will spend it (the Dreaded Trickle-Down Economics" - the trickle down economics theory is actually the McCain theory - tax cuts for the higher income brackets (because they are the job creators), hoping it will trickle down to their employees through higher salaries. Riiiiight.

      • Posted By: claymak @ 01/15/2009 3:15:50 PM

        More ignorant comments

    • Posted By: OneWrld7 @ 01/15/2009 3:07:31 PM

      Now that's just an ignorant comment...

  • Posted By: archeangeluriel @ 01/15/2009 3:34:04 PM

    I like a good many people. I like George Bush, I like Bill Clinton. Both made some major mistakes, but in the end I feel like they are good men working hard to make the best decisions they possibly can while walking on thin ice. It is sad that so many of us will jump on board to hate one or the other when we ourselves might have done a much more lousy job. In the end I stand by my belief that less government is best. Democrats have an answer for everyone, but sadly most of their ideas include more government in our daily lives. I want to fail, I want to learn, and I want others to do the same. When we first came to this new settlement and stole our lives from what we labeled British tyrany we could agree that our patriotism was rooted in our security in ourselves to take a stand and succeed. These days its seems like no one has the balls to own up to our own mistakes, take the punishment, and leave the government out of it. I feel demeaned by Democrats. They want to support those in poverty, whence many stay in poverty. They want to make more jobs for Americans, because Americans are too ignorant to drag their ass down the road and apply themselves for one. Today we live in a nation that babies us. Atleast George Bush didn't give in and give us the pacifier. Atleast he gave us something to get upset about, to have an opinion. For God Sake people wake up. It really is not the presidents fault the world is falling apart. We have checks and balances. Who did you vote on for senator, govenor, or mayor?Blame it all on one person. Pull the stick out of your own eye. We are the problem. We have lost faith, in ourselves, in God, in currency, in our neighbors. For all those who hate George W. Bush do something about it. Otherwise you are no better than him.

    • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 5:49:29 AM

      "They want to make more jobs for Americans, because Americans are too ignorant to drag their ass down the road and apply themselves for one." - Have you missed all the company collapses of late? Or maybe you didn't notice the rate of inflation, or the fact that nobody has money to spend, causing companies to cut their labor force? It's not that people aren't applying, I assure you. I believe the problem is exactly the opposite - too many people applying for dwindling positions...

  • Posted By: oilhog @ 01/15/2009 3:42:55 PM

    Wow, Clinton and Carter caused the economic crisist? I suppose Lincoln caused the Spanish American War and T.R. was to blame for the Great Depression. This crisis wasn't caused by a single person, or one institution. It wasn't even caused by something tangible. It's selfishness and greed that has put us in this pickle. The neocons have pulled the wool over so many eyes. It seems now to be more virtuous to get rich and watch out for yourself than it is to help those in need and make a modest wage. In a world where everyone is for themselves, their only goal to become rich and powerful, we will fall.
    We can thank LIBERALISM for any egalitarianism that exists in the world today, and before long we may again have to fight for freedom. I foresaw this economic meltdown over three years, discussing it with people that have economic degrees, only to get laughed at. Unfortunetly the direction I saw us heading in has manifested itself the way I predicted...yet I could still be wrong and we could right the ship. I may not have years of wisdom at my young age, but I'de still like to advise people to lose the false sense of invulnerability we have in this country, and learn to love and help others.

    • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 4:44:32 AM

      Well spoken. It sometimes seems the haves vs the have-nots. This country is so divided when it comes to financial issues. Capitalism thrives on this division.

  • Posted By: FountainHead @ 01/15/2009 3:54:10 PM

    Its funny reading all these comments about Bush and is ruining the economy. Let me ask you this, what was the value of the US dollar before the first stimulus plan and after. Now BO has his own stimulus package, what will the value of the US dollar after his plan.

    • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 4:32:41 AM

      In case anyone's interested, here's a link to tax policies and their effects over time from both 2008 presidential candidates. It may allay some fears....or not, depending on which group you fall in to.

      • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 4:34:09 AM

        Oops - http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411750_updated_candidates_summary.pdf

  • Posted By: Redneck45 @ 01/19/2009 4:20:26 AM

    I'm surprised this article actually praised Bush! =) Kudos to News week! Im 100% for bush.I use red neck as a disguise btw Im not really a red neck.

  • Posted By: Jimmy06 @ 01/15/2009 4:29:18 PM

    People blame Bush for a lot. Lets face it. Both the house and senate have been controlled by Democrats (including senator Obama) for the last session and they have controlled at least one since Bush took office. If the Democrats had REALLY wanted to make changes, they could have done so and there would have been little Bush could have done to stop it. The mortgage lending problems, financial institution problems, etc. were the result of legislation and laws enacted by former President Clinton that forced lenders and financial institutions to give loans to people that otherwise under normal situations, would not have been able to qualify. Bush had nothing to do with that and the Democratic congress could have changed it and did not. Democrats in congress have used President Bush as a scapegoat and pushed a lot off on him that he did not do. The reason is simple. Make Bush and Republicans look bad and make it seem like their fault so that they could get their "savior" Obama in office. Obama did not vote in the senate on any bill that people would consider controvversial so he would not be figured out. In 3 years he worked less in the law firm he worked for than the average junior partner works in 1 year. He lied about the number of court cases he tried on civil rights issues. One was a baby sitter that was not paid and the other was a man that slipped and fell in tennament housing and sued for the fall. Those were the major cases he tried. People distrust lawyers, but they elected one. The fact stands, Democrats in control of both the house and senate in the last 4 years Bush has been in office voted with him, not against him. If they wanted the war in Iraq to end, they could have voted to do it. Instead they voted to keep it going. Lets put the blame where it belongs and not where you want it to go or blame someone just because of their race or the fact that you don't like them. Regarding oil.look at the greedy execs of the oil companies and other companies like AIG insurance, etc. It is greed that is fueling the increase in costs, not President Bush. Again, Democrats (including Senator Obama) have controlled all of congress and could have done something for the american people but did not. People are quick to blame Bush, but don't want to face the fact that the Democrats are as much or more a fault than Bush. THINK PEOPLE!!!

    • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 4:14:29 AM

      "Regarding oil.look at the greedy execs of the oil companies and other companies like AIG insurance, etc. It is greed that is fueling the increase in costs, not President Bush."

      -Um, isn't Bush involved with Oil companies? Pretty sure I heard something to that effect...

    • Posted By: szechenyi @ 01/16/2009 9:54:10 AM

      FYI: The House and Senate were controlled by the GOP between 2002 and 2006. Can't blame the Democrats all the time.

    • Posted By: szechenyi @ 01/16/2009 9:52:18 AM

      Must note one error: in fact, between 2002 and 2006, the GOP controlled both the House and the Senate. They've got nobody to blame but themselves.

    • Posted By: vito vera @ 01/15/2009 9:42:01 PM

      The problems we face now were caqused by ragan deregulating Wall Street and leagalizing leverage buy outs and deregulating energy companies. Get a grip. Read the book "The great depression of 1990

    • Posted By: vito vera @ 01/15/2009 9:34:02 PM

      The mortgage problem is becuase the republicans raised usery rates from twenty0fuve percent to thirty percent. That is ludicrise. They should have been lowered. The republicans only help big business and the wealthy. When Clinton left office the richest one perceont of the country had eight percent of the wealth. Before this crash they had twenty percent of the wealth. That's why there was a crash the bulk of the people had no spendable income. Dim wit.

  • Posted By: matt0123 @ 01/15/2009 6:08:12 PM

    bush will go down to one the best president we have ever had. To all of you that thinks he a bad president is just mad because you did not get anything free. Wake up it not president job help you with medical bills, welfare, food stamps
    Get off you butt and get a job doing something like working a fast food, retail, cleaning, working at plant. If you need money you will take any type a job that put food on you table ....JUST REMEMBER THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANOTHER ATTAck IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE SEPT 11....... ALL OBAMA GOING IS TO TAXES THE COMPANY YOU WORK FOR AND THEN YOU WILL NOT HAVE JOB BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO CUT BACK ON PEOPLE SO THEY CAN PAY THERE TAXES .......PLUS WHEN LOOK AT THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION MORE COMPANY LAID PEOPLE OFF WHEN WEEKS AFTER THAT DAY SO THEY WILL BE READY TO PAY WHAT EVER TAXES DEAL OBAMA COMMING UP ( THAT WHERE THE UNEMPLOYEMNT IS )WAKE UP

    • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 4:09:15 AM

      Mat, companies are forced to cut their labor force because people can't afford to spend, and revenue is crashing. The middle incomes are great spenders, that is when they have money to spend. Due to the economy (thanks to an ill-timed war), middle income households have disappeared. They can no longer afford more than the basics. There's your problem.

    • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 1:36:15 PM

      You are not correct ... he will go down as a the worst. He is perhaps the only one that might be charged with war crimes, now that would be a legasy suitable for him,

      • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 1:36:17 AM

        Regarding your take any job attitude - many skilled professionals have trouble getting menial jobs because their resumes actually work against them. I have been told several times that I am overqualified for certain positions.

      • Posted By: jh35180 @ 01/16/2009 4:00:40 PM

        I don't think that will happen. We should have done that with LBJ 40 years ago.

    • Posted By: NoSanctuary @ 01/19/2009 1:34:07 AM

      Just a question, why d oRepublicans always claim all walfare recipients are democrats? Is is because you know all republicans are rich? Personally, I like to think it's a mix in all walks of life. Let's try not to be rude. A lot of people have been hurt by our current economic crisis, but not all of them are looking for a handout.

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