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  • Posted By: BUY AMERICAN!!! @ 01/17/2009 10:56:15 AM

    WHEN I TYPE IN ALL CAPS IT MAKES ME SEEM LIKE I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

  • Posted By: 20/20Yesterday @ 01/17/2009 10:20:26 AM

    Was Bush right on the uranium in Iraq also? Please see http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html?iref=newssearch.

  • Posted By: Dianetix @ 01/17/2009 9:05:27 AM

    Ok, look folks... The question here is did Bush do enough good or did the bad outweigh it?

    I live in England, but have lived and worked in the USA for 5 years or so (love the county and people :-) ) and no matter if it is in the USA or the UK, all leaders get it wrong... it does not make ANY difference if its republican or democrat they all do it.

    However in my opinion the world is not enriched by what bush has done and we are in a far worse state now than before.

    Even the above posting when it says the following :??? The determination to do counterinsurgency right. The Bush administration made many serious mistakes in Iraq, but the president got the big thing right. Faced with defeat, his administration first acted to cut off foreign support for the Iraqi insurgency by arresting and (covertly) killing Iranian operatives inside Iraq. It then developed unexpected new allies among the Sunni tribes, adopted effective new counterinsurgency tactics and deployed large reinforcements.??? ...Is a lie.

    Ok its not a total lie, but they leave out the most important bit that is that Bush then decided he would withdraw the support to the new allies and not help them destabilise the governing leaders/insurgents. (This was the case in Afghanistan too).
    This meant that all the possible good that the counterinsurgency policy had was wasted, and in turn we now have a body count of X amount of America, British and of cause the innocents of Bushes war still climbing.

    Ultimately America, but more so its leaders has to learn a simple rule.... One man???s terrorist is another man???s freedom fighter, and no matter what you do, especially if you do it like Bush has, you will find that the ???terrorist??? or whatever you wish to call them will win in the end because you can???t beat then with a big stick, you can impose your ways and will on them and you can???t fight a war of all fronts and hope to win.

    No one, no empire, no military force since history began has ever been able to do this, but people like Bush and his ilk will always continue to do things their way and so the rest of us will suffer as a consequence of that.

    I really do hope obama does better.... for everyone???s sake.

  • Posted By: JBWI @ 01/15/2009 3:33:49 PM

    So what's wrong with waterboarding the bad guys??

    • Posted By: mathattack @ 01/17/2009 12:49:43 AM

      Torture is torture, no excuses. Is there truly a difference between torturing a random civilian and torturing a "bad guy"? I don't think so.

    • Posted By: jwalker8680 @ 01/15/2009 3:37:48 PM

      1) Who determines if they are bad guys? If they are wrongly accused we just tortured a innocent.
      2) The stronger argument... If we torture then we are condoning torture including against our soldiers.
      3) It is agains Geneva Convention and torture is a war crime.

  • Posted By: snagman @ 01/15/2009 3:36:17 PM

    Except for the people who hate America, I remember everyone being behind President Bush after Sept. 11, 2001. We were a united nation and ready to take care of business. Then we got 6 years of the media telling everyone what a dummy President Bush was, how he did everything wrong, and on & on. So evertually people began to believe it and his approval ratings dropped. However we were not dealing with Bill Clinton who based every decision on the daily poll numbers but instead we had a REAL President who made decisions ( right or wrong ) based on what he thought was right for our country, which was what he was elected into office to do.
    People complain about the economy....look no farther than your local Democrats in Congress who are the ones actually in charge of that ( not the President). President Bush tried to warn against Fannie & Freddie back in 2003 and then John McCain once again sounded the alarm in 2005. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Harry Reid all were involved in blocking any legislation to safe guard our economy and the banks. Right along with them were the media saying everything was "rosie." Now these same people are demending that regulations be in place and they be in charge of it. Of course this is after their friends and relatives have filled their bank accounts with our money. Putting them in charge is like asking a burglar to be the night watchman at the bank.
    As for Iraq...I for one feel much safer fighting them on their soil and not ours. However if you wish, I'm sure we can make arrangements to bring a couple hundred over here and let them live with you so you don't feel guilty. Better yet, go on You-Tube and watch the video from Dec. of last year where these "want a be" terrorists were protesting on our streets in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.
    The banking mess we can thank Jimmy (worst President ever) Carter and Bill (I didn't inhale) Clinton. They put the wheels in motion that forced the banks to loan money to people who could not afford to pay for them.
    I know President Bush made mistakes and there are a lot of things I did not agree with him on, but over all I think he did a pretty good job with the hand he was dealt.
    A lot of people recently voted for "CHANGE" and I believe that they will find out it wasn't what they had in mind when they entered that voting booth in November.
    Let's see if the media is a critical with the new President as they were with President Bush.
    I doubt that will happen but we will be watching.

    • Posted By: markayham@aol.com @ 01/15/2009 4:16:47 PM

      STOP THE BLAME GAME; YOUR MAN DID THIS, YOUR MAN DID THIS; We say we are intelligent people; but we continue to follow masses, learn to read and understanded how the government works for yourselves; We are a captialistic society. There are rich people and poor people, and fools who think there is a middle class. But I would rather live in this no so perfect society, where I can get access to most things, than one where I would die from flu. We need to be more tolerant of our brothers; teach and discipline the younger generation on how to earn a living and be more respectful. It is okay to work for a living instead of owning the business; but if it's your desire to own your own business that's okay too. Be prideful of whatever career your kids choose. We need to educate, educate, educate, no tolerate the kids when they are in school; and parent it is your responsiblity to prepare your kids to follow directions and be respectful or authority figures other than you. You need to give the teachers back the power to teach and not babysit. You need to join the PTA, and any other organizations that support the schools. EDUCATION IS THE KEY FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY!

      • Posted By: mathattack @ 01/17/2009 12:47:17 AM

        I couldn't agree more! We don't really know whose fault this economic crisis is, and it does absolutely no good to point fingers. We need to get over worrying about how the problem started and start worrying about how to FIX the problem!
        Children and young adults ARE the future! When you guys are all gone, we teens will still be here (though we won't be teens anymore!) and we'll be fighting with the resources you've given us. If the general population isn't smart enough to make their own decisions, our country's going to be in one hell of a mess. My teacher's are great; I just hope they don't get laid off, and if the economy keeps going the way it's going, they WILL. And I'll lose my math teacher. And maybe my history teacher. And my classes will be too big and there won't be any text books and the future of the U.S. will just collapse onto the backs of a bunch of new shallow adults. Maybe we'd better put some money into our school systems, instead of into pointless wars!
        Rant over.

    • Posted By: vito vera @ 01/16/2009 3:34:05 PM

      You need to get your facts straight. You are sooo far off course it's unbelievable. Reagan caused this mess by deregulation wall street the bank and the energy companies. And the president not dongress is responsible.

    • Posted By: iamsharper @ 01/15/2009 4:16:05 PM

      I supported bush until he lied us into Iraq, and I could follow him no further. I did not agree with the media when the war in Iraq was being sold or the majority but the fact both came around round to the truth is a testament to free thinking and a free press. The media should have done a better job then and they might have spared us the billions of dollars and many lives and the missed opportunities to end Alcada the attack on Iraq cost.
      So he proved he was not sharp and that only continued when it came to the economy. He never warned us of anything but instead was saying it was fine (just like McCain did) right up to the point it was obviously ridiculous. Even then he was not calling it a recession but a slow down. I have a hard time listening to a bush supporter attack the Dems as being completely responsible for the mortgage issue. The legislation that removed the firewall between investment and commercial banks was torn down on bushes watch. It was not the loans themselves that caused this issue but the fact banks were able to make them and then pass them off to be turned into investments. This lack of oversight (banks did not have to keep them anymore) is the primary factor that drove many of these bogus loans banks finally having found a way to mitigate their attachment to these risky loans while making excellent money. You say the problem comes from people that want to regulate the banks when the repubs have been the 'party of deregulation' since Reagan. Suffice it to say it is fair to think that the last government at the very least has a hand in what happened to us, but that is a concept that I do not think you can understand. I suggest that you put your head back in the sand with the 20% of all Americans that see it your way. The rest of us have really good reasons to think what we do and it has nothing to do with the media but everything to do with thinking for ourselves.

  • Posted By: mathattack @ 01/17/2009 12:35:28 AM

    One thing that Bush did that I think is important is the National Monument off the coast of California that he created. He may not have done it for the right reasons, but the deed is still done and that patch of ocean will be all the better for it.

  • Posted By: Amy25 @ 01/15/2009 3:46:11 PM

    We are a free nation. We are free to our opinions and free to state them. My opinion....Bush was not the best man for the job and we were silly as a nation to have trusted him. I'm ready for a change. Get our boys home and lets start over. OBAMA 2009 BABY! YES WE CAN!

    • Posted By: claymak @ 01/15/2009 4:00:58 PM

      ''Yes we can'' what?

      • Posted By: pbpace @ 01/15/2009 5:53:27 PM

        That's the problem. Once you get passed silliy sloganeering many of these people have absolutely no idea what his platform entails.

        • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 1:42:07 PM

          At least he is not going to lie us into anotehr war ... at least he can speak in completes sentences not writen down from him ... at least he undstands the answer is not on the right or the left but in the middle where most Americans live ... at least he is not Bush

          • Posted By: mathattack @ 01/17/2009 12:31:03 AM

            At least I don't have to burst out laughing whenever I hear his voice on the radio.

          • Posted By: jh35180 @ 01/16/2009 3:31:58 PM

            Only if it is not Bush. Well there was not alot of things that I liked about Bush, but to turn the country over to another inexperienced person who can utter nice catch phrases doen't exactly make me feel any better. Vince Lombardi was good at speeches. Maybe if Lombardi were still alive he would be a good President

  • Posted By: Mini Ster @ 01/15/2009 8:59:18 PM

    I am so thankful to have had President Bush in office. God told me near the beginning of His presidency that he would be called a failure, but that it was not so. Tonight, my heart is sad that this nation has so forgotten humility. In saying goodbye to this president, I'm reminded of this nation's arrogance in how we use the precious gift of our freedon of speech to speak wretchedly and slanderously of any person in public office. President Bush may fumble words at times, but rarely have I heard him slander others. He has even defended his critics rights to use their freedom of speech. As for me, I love President and First Lady Bush, and Condolezza Rice. What a gift to have had them in these difficult times.

    • Posted By: mathattack @ 01/17/2009 12:20:56 AM

      Okay, I won't say I agree with you. But Bush's presidency is starting to seem a little bit better now that I have some hope for the future.
      It must be interesting to talk to god. What else did he say?

    • Posted By: vito vera @ 01/16/2009 11:54:08 AM

      It's a real pleasure to meet someone who actually spoke to god. Most people claiming that are delusional psycopaths. Tell him to give me a call next time you talk to him. Okay????

    • Posted By: runswithscissors @ 01/15/2009 10:32:25 PM

      Thanks for reminding me to chuckle.

      There is a saying that life on Earth won't end with a bang
      but rather a wimper.
      I like to think it will end with a quip.

  • Posted By: Ublanketyblank @ 01/16/2009 8:42:17 PM

    Another representative of NEOCON fantasies that have become a nightmare come true. He needs to go away with Bush.

  • Posted By: Ublanketyblank @ 01/16/2009 8:40:29 PM

    I don't like you David Frum.

  • Posted By: Jonas @ 01/15/2009 2:25:15 PM

    If I had voted for Obama I would be questioning his flip-flop on taxes before he's even in the White House. Now he says he WON'T raise taxes on people making over 150K or 250K a year...he thinks the BUSH TAX CUTS made several years ago are a good idea, and won't propose any changes to them for at least 2 years. He's right...the Bush tax cuts WERE and ARE GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY...but if he had said anything like that during the debates, all of the poor folks, the lower class, and the minorities who voted him into office would have thought he sounded too much like Bush or MCCain....so he said whatever he had to to get elected, even knowing he was bullshitting the country. If most of his supporters read anything like USA today or Newsweek, they would be outraged....but I'm sure the vast majority of them don't read much other than the Enquirer. Obama's plan to increase government jobs and spending instead of stimulating the private sector will be a disaster for future generations.

    • Posted By: vito vera @ 01/16/2009 8:15:38 PM

      giving tsax breaks to the wealthy is disasterous for the economy. Check your facts. Read John Maynard Keynes. Probably won't do any good. You'll just dance around the truth again.

    • Posted By: backd6 @ 01/15/2009 3:44:00 PM

      I totally agree with you. That would mean that FDR, who is probably the greatest president that we have ever had, was totally wrong with his idea of infrastructure spending, and that his ideals to take the country out of depression didnt work. Again, i totally agree with you, good job, and good thinking out of the box. Golly geez i wish i was as smart as you! Lets just dump 350 billion into the private sector and that will shore everything up......oh wait, didnt we already do that, and the economy is still in shambles. nope, not according to this genius

    • Posted By: backd6 @ 01/15/2009 3:42:40 PM

      I totally agree with you. That would mean that FDR, who is probably the greatest president that we have ever had, was totally wrong with his idea of infrastructure spending, and that his ideals to take the country out of depression didnt work. Again, i totally agree with you, good job, and good thinking out of the box. Golly geez i wish i was as smart as you! Lets just dump 350 billion into the private sector and that will shore everything up......oh wait, didnt we already do that, and the economy is still in shambles. nope, not according to this genius

  • Posted By: papaya @ 01/02/2009 11:10:12 AM

    Bush never been right. He always create something that will make situatiions worst

    • Posted By: saherrera @ 01/15/2009 1:55:52 PM

      Instead of critizing our great leader, maybe you should take some grammer classes.

      • Posted By: Outragedallthe time @ 01/15/2009 3:23:15 PM

        Yeah and you could use a spelling bee, saherrera - see if u can reed thiz: ure an idhit

        • Posted By: rosso @ 01/16/2009 8:11:27 PM

          There is no doubt.."W" will go down in history as the worse President this great country has ever had..
          If you can't see through the BS he's put us through for 8 years you are either uneducated or mentally incapable..
          Just ask God..lol..

  • Posted By: Sinibaldi @ 01/16/2009 6:41:14 PM

    With a little help for my friend.

    The fear of
    the darkness
    again disappears
    when my
    memory lives,
    saving the pleasure
    of a natural life;
    and a thanks
    overcomes, like
    a delicate bird
    near a shining
    fountain.

    Francesco Sinibaldi Italy/Usa.

  • Posted By: news_editor @ 01/16/2009 4:51:39 PM

    Bush wasn't all bad, I think he did some of the right things. I think that he made some big mess ups too and that is said that it will be a part of his image.

  • Posted By: martricken @ 01/15/2009 1:25:22 PM

    The problem America (and the left wing media) has if the country is going bad, it's the president fault. What about Congress? We have losers such as Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein Nancy Peolsi that refuse to accept their responsibility for this country's mess. Well folks I blame you and your lousy politics. It's time we throw these losers out and get somebody in that get the job done instead of blaming others.

    • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 3:41:51 PM

      Please tell me the last couple of years that the dems having a say while being constantly vetoted for every thing they tried to do make the last 8 years thier fault. Bush and his cronies had control for a long time, that was the problem and the 'do nothing' congress has done nothing becuase the repugs backed by the veto pen would not let them. Even if they wanted to they would not have had a chance to mess things up, the spin that they are to blame baffles me in that anyone every buys it.

  • Posted By: THEDEATHOFTHEWEST @ 01/15/2009 1:26:26 PM

    Bush will be seen in 50 years as a Great leader who transfored the muslim world and led the liberalization of Islam the same way that Germany and Japan were transformed. Zero Birthrates in Europe will bring Islamic Rule over Eurabia within 100 years. The present day feminized Western man who has fallen from Richard the Lionheart to Richard Simmons just doesnt get it. There are NO gay parades in the muslim world but you wont hear ellen degenerate and the rest of the pretend to be liberals in San fran SICKO squaking about that.. No, instead they hate Bush who was smart enough to see what was in the best interest of all in a post 9/11 world. The war was so much about oil as it was a race against time...We either liberalize the muslim world while there is still time or they rule over us all in due to the demographic reality of the future. Thats a fact of life that the idiot left never want to confront. Will it work? Probably not.
    The muslims are not interested in having their children grow up in a sewer culture. The Muslims still have what the western man lost long ago...a shread of Honor...they refuse to be the Stooges of the jews that the west has become.
    History will show Bush at least tried but the weaklings he was trying to lead had long since givin up.

    • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 3:37:29 PM

      You may worry about the dark ages comming back .. but it is not going to happen. Besides what bush did was empower the radicals in oince securlar country of Iraq. If there was a chance of there being a more moderate state the model died with the former goverment of Iraq, Sadam was a murdering psycopath, but that is the kind of man that can run a country where there will always be a crowd of people ready to blow themselves up to take power.

  • Posted By: woodrow17 @ 01/15/2009 1:30:27 PM

    History will see Bush as a great president. The blind conspiracy theorists that only want to hate Bush will see what they want to see but it isn't the truth.

    • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 3:33:09 PM

      As long a Bushs freinds get to wriite history you might be right ... otherwise he is pooched ..

  • Posted By: mngsears @ 01/15/2009 1:35:50 PM

    The guy was elected president TWICE! (Sorry if you STILL don't understand the electoral college!) The Democratic party wrecked the housing market and started the entire mess....what a bunch of un-informed name callers!! I suppose evrything for the next 8 years will be Bush's fault???? Get a life!

    • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 3:29:48 PM

      Apointed once and played the only card he had for the second, fear .. not impressed.

    • Posted By: viki08 @ 01/15/2009 2:43:17 PM

      by fraud and manipulations!!!

  • Posted By: Trlymatthews @ 01/15/2009 2:11:42 PM

    Fox is neither fair nor balanced. Those who rely on it as their only source of news are the most uninformed people I have ever had the displeasure to have any conversation with about current events.

    • Posted By: Bethie77 @ 01/15/2009 3:01:07 PM

      Amen to that! Scary that they take the "Fix" News Network as legit news source and repeat their propaganda over and over again.

      • Posted By: claymak @ 01/15/2009 3:51:46 PM

        Please tell me which network is legit? They all lie and bend the truth

        • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 3:09:19 PM

          But no one network is so incredably skewed ... Fox noise pure propiganda plain and simple , they place no value on any truth that does not serve thier spin.

  • Posted By: phd7 @ 01/15/2009 2:11:56 PM

    No, Prisedent Bush is NOT a Democrat! Until the economy tanked (thank you, Mr. Bush and friends), he has been held up as the ideal Republican. Now that everything has gone south, you have collectivlly thrown him under the bus. If all the republicans think he's so bad, how did he get elected? I know the majority of democrats didn't vote for him. Maybe he had us all fooled, but remember this, he wasn't the guy that democrats wanted in the White House.

    • Posted By: AmSharper @ 01/16/2009 3:07:18 PM

      I thought he was a doofis before he was first APPOINTED president...

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