Getting India to Act Its Size

One chick I know went for an Indian visa stamp in her passport and was initiated into the "Falun Gong cult" in U. S. Indian consulate location H and says after 8 weeks she woke up and had "saved the plane fare to Delhi" and is wearing a sari! Another guy went to get his visa at the San Francisco consulate location and is now an unpaid nuclear waste shoveler out there. A third man was grabbed while submitting an Indian visa application and his 10-year-old son asked if he wanted to learn to hand-grind body parts for a certain local spagetti product. I was picked up on the street and told "If you want to go to india, you have to F---" Is the Indian visa application office an outlaw biker gang now? I went back to the consulate and told them that I had no intention of breaking a vow of abstinence I took several years ago. Another chick from Ohio was told "Falun Gong was the main religion of India" I say what???? What happened to yoga, meditation, Krishna, Arjuna, Ganesh, chakra analysis , and the nonviolent principles of Ghandi? How do we get to go to that great country, possibly submit the visa application from Canada? Falun Gong is against the law in China because its adherents are considered unclean and decadent.

Reply to hyperspacer:

Being a democracy should not inhibit a strong military.
When a country can afford it the first action item that should be executed, is to strengthen its military.
This is not a negative.
Deterrence is the key here. Not mindless invasions (read Iraq).

One thing I noticed all these years reading articles by Indian authors and

through personal interaction with Indians is that they like to flaunt India's

democracy credential, mostly in the context that concludes therefore that

India is a benign power. This article of faith is accepted by a lot of

people, including President Bush, who said a country that is a democracy is a

peaceful country.

I think in regards to whether a country is benign or not, what is important

is the temperament of a civilization that matters, not what system of

government the country adopts. Post colonial India now has sixty years of

history behind her and if one examines this history carefully, one can only

concluded that India has an imperialistic bend. This is a country that

shortly after independence, in the late 1950s, found the need to acquire an

aircraft carrier from Britain, becoming the first Asian countries to have an

aircraft carrier.

If India one day become the pre-eminent power, displacing the role of the

United States today, it will be very difficult for the world at large. If I

can extrapolate India's behaviour towards its immediate neighbour, I can

predict that India will make sure the world will know who is the big brother

and who is the little brother. And that the world will face a lot of demand

from India or else it will face consequences.

Some one from Pakistan- a religious exclusivist country, a country which is global source for religion based terrorism criticizing the failures of a largely successful secular democracy is a non-starter. You and Pakistan haven???t convinced anyone in the world.


Here is a verbatim quote from the ???constituition??? of ???Pakistan??? : ???Only a Muslim could be qualified for election as President (male only) and Prime Minister (male or female).???

Paki (feeble) attempts to project India and Pakistan are aboout the same would convince any one in the world if the following were the case:

(1) Pakistan had stayed a secular republic and not the ???Islamic Republic??? as it is with constitution which declares only a muslim can become president.(and only a man ?)

(2) Pakistan has a 15% Hindu population in its current territory and India pretends to be a defender and champion for the Pakistani Hindus

(3) If only there are Hindu missile scientists in Pakistan, if only Pakistan had Hindu Commander-in-chief of its armed forces, if only Pakistan had a Christian defence minister, if only the most popular movie stars in Pakistan happen to be Hindus, if only Pakistan had a Hindu cricket captain, if only 3 out of 11 members in its cricket team are Hindus, the list is long

Since none of the above applies, PAKI CASE DISMISSED.

If Pakis had been in touch with reality, Pakistan wouldn???t be here today. I???m only posting the above for the benefit of any neutral visitors.

boforce is a demented, sad case of a Paki. Read his rants on mumbai terrorism.

Boforce is an over nationalist Chinese who becomes a Paki once in a while.

Thanks to the writer for the nice article. As the Indian Prime Minister recently reminded us the Indian ship of progress has set sail in the right direction but is yet some way to reach its destination.

A reviewer BOFORCE pointed out some of India's unique challenges and experiments with democracy. Had the Indian state chosen to constrain civil liberties such as in family planning or people's movement as in China, it could address (like China does) many of the difficult issues it faces -- like female feticide or urban slums. Yet it chooses to respect liberties despite the high cost. Having got the basics right, now it must strive to deliver better governance. Similar liberties allow the traditionally backward groups like the Dalits to play the democratic game tactfully and squarely and, as the writer points out, get their leaders such as Mayawati elected to seats of regional and central power.

As a whole nation, indeed the Indian society seems to march ahead with the dynamic optimism of Bollywood fantasies. Kudos to Shekhar Gupta and BOFORCE for making us aware of that.

This is again in response to BOFORCE. I am not sure which country you belong to, if it's paki land, you should look at your own sh*t before worrying about India. No one denies the shortcomings of India and no one tries to hide it like China. Every country has it's own problems and it doesn't mean that you are not making any progress if those problems are not solved in a day. Try to growup and see the big picture. India for sure has long ways to go before being called a true power but no one can deny the progress it made so far.

India can do wonders. It is still to grow further as the talented youth has tasted the success. It is bound to grow further. On the other side, Pakistanis going down with terrorism. It is taking loans from IMF to pay employee salaries. Pakistan should grow up and become civilised and try to learn from Indian success.

India must learn that without solving Kashmir issue ...there will always be comflict between India and Pakistan,,,,,,,and no economical progress in the region . Simply India can't have Kashmir and Economical growth all together....India has to give up one....and If India chose to fight .......then in that case india will lose more, all the foreign investment will flee from India...they need bigger economy to feed more than a billion mouths.....lets see what hindu banya do.....

Britain ruled and infleunced the world not through being a large nation(geographical or population) but rather savvy in its business dealings, and innovations in technology. China, which is economically and militarily ahead of India and has aspirations of being a global power but this is going to take decades to materialise considering that the overwhelming population works and lives around agriculture. India has 300+ million living under the povert line, rather than aspiring to be a 'Great Power', it should develop incentives and oppurtunities for its poor.



@Christopherkidwell1
' getting rid of those madrassas would be the BEST thing that America could do in the entire Arab world. '

What is needed in the madrassah's is modern education in line with religious education. This is what the madrassah's used to impart prior to the current concept(started to stop infleunce of British colonialist in 19th century). People around the world feel they should be able to dictate to the muslims, as to how they should live, the type of governments they should vote for at the ballot box(if they ever have the chance).

World started realizing the India's capability and it is time for India to step up and play a constructuve role for the world stability. India has true democracy and freedom for its citizens. Some times I feel that toomuch freedom for its citizens. It is true reflection of unity in diversity. It has Hindus as majority and it is amazing to know that the minority muslim population is 3rd largest in the world. The modern India is much more progressive and it has largest youth population. I don't see any problem why India cannot grow further and become one of the super powers.

ajka, getting rid of those madrassas would be the BEST thing that America could do in the entire Arab world. Get rid of those, convince the countries in question to make them illegal...... and put SEVERE prison sentences in place for ANYONE who encourages violence against other people solely based on the fact that they will not do what those people want them to do.
Oh, but wait.... America will NEVER do that, because we do that ourselves. We dictate to people what they can and cannot do, who they can and cannot sleep with/have sex with, etc. Until WE stop doing it.... we will have lost the moral 'high ground'.

At last US has realized, it can not compare a dictatorship to a democracy. India has been a responsible country since it's inception whereas Pa has been mainly ruled by dictators. Now, with India-US relations comng to their desired levels, the militancy from Pak-Afgan areas can be wiped out. Althoough common Pakistanis are good citizens,but lack of formal schooling has made a big difference. Atending madras can distort one's thinking process as a little obstacle to them seems as a threat to Islam for which a Jihad is necessary. Instead of working hard for their amilies, the poor people are led to foolish cause.
India needs to close it's borders with it's neighbours very tightly and maintain internal security tightly with strong and effective laws.
I have seen some neighbours scratching your new expensive car out of jealous as they couldn't afford even an old one. This is what happened in Mumbai and it can happen again as the conditions deteriorate in your neighbourhood; they have to draw peoples' attention from food-clothing to Jihad.

Sure the Hindu zionists like to copy Israeli(Khazarians) zionists..........but..............PAKISTAN is not Gaza strip..........LOLzzzzzzzzzzzz