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  • Posted By: malangkhan @ 01/04/2009 9:03:13 PM

    Kingrichard - what an imbecile and a poor excuse for a human being you are! Its people like you who believe all the hype and media frenzy without much thought or research on their own, that devise these words to describe muslims/islam. Your existance is a mere burden on this world and a burden on the mother who bore you for 9 months. What a waste of sperm you are! I recommend one book to you 'Atlas Shrugged' and I also recommend two more words that you should search on youtube - Illuminati and Free Masons. If you can put your mere intellect (miniscule at its best) to research a bit and come to a conlusion about your lunatic pshychology; I would love to read your comment. I think you should just stop breathing on your own since you have no reason to live in this world and consume our tax dollars!

  • Posted By: malangkhan @ 01/04/2009 8:57:07 PM

    Kingrichard - what an imbecile and a poor excuse for a human being you are! Its people like you who believe all the hype and media frenzy without much thought or research on their own, that devise these words to describe muslims/islam. Your existance is a mere burden on this world and a burden on the mother who bore you for 9 months. What a waste of sperm you are! I recommend one book to you 'Atlas Shrugged' and I also recommend two more words that you should search on youtube - Illuminati and Free Masons. If you can put your mere intellect (miniscule at its best) to research a bit and come to a conlusion about your lunatic pshychology; I would love to read your comment. I think you should just stop breathing on your own since you have no reason to live in this world and consume our tax dollars!

    • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/04/2009 9:02:22 PM

      I charge $250/hr for research, with a 10 hour minumum charge. Please remit $2500.

  • Posted By: chedet @ 01/04/2009 8:51:12 PM

    I'm sorry but I don't think it's Islam that is keeping women behind. Islam has always encouraged its followers to be better educated to better themselves. Muslims women in Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei for example are free to do what they aspired to do but with limitation that goes with cultural norms. The thing is that they have more freedom in making decisions than their sisters in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but that doesn't make them any less Islamic. When people say Islam oppresses women they are wrong. It's so happen that the culture that oppresses women is a culture of one or two muslims countries. This article don't speak for all muslim women.

  • Posted By: True_Indian @ 01/04/2009 3:00:47 PM

    I am not sure if Islam is problem or not as I have no real idea about it. But I can surely tell these following things. How can they deny admission to Mosque?? How the muslims justify that?? How men can have 4 wifes and not women cannot have?? Why the muslim women should always cover their face?? Why muslim girls can't go to schools?? Why Musims are allowed to have 10 to 20 kids?? Why Muslims in Pakistan are sale to become Suicide bombers??? These are some of the things need to be fixed. Isn't it??

    • Posted By: Nez123 @ 01/04/2009 8:43:10 PM

      Also, I'd like to add to my earlier post that four wives for ANY man won't be a pleasure trip in today's society regardless of where in the world you live. You have to remember that Islam was brought down to the Arabs in such a time where women were mistreated by their husbands. The courts allowed men to have numerous wives. The "practice" of having four wives was a RESTRICTION not a command to marry four women exactly. Men could no longer marry numerous wives and mistreat them. Furthermore, men in Islam have the responsibility to provide for their families. Therefore, a man must be able to provide (not only financially) for each wife. The restriction to marry four women only was brought down to HELP women and improve their living conditions. I hope this answered your question. If not, you might want to research it for yourself.

    • Posted By: Nez123 @ 01/04/2009 8:02:05 PM

      True_Indian,
      I think your hate for Islam and Pakistan are based on what your nationality is. It would be like asking a Palestinian to speak well of an Israeli or vice versa. You've been brought up in a society where relations between India and Pakistan have not been stable and your posts reflect on your beliefs. I merely want to remind you that every person in this world has a reason to do what they do and believe what they believe. You dislike muslims because of your own personal reasons. The key to understanding your enemies is to realize that they are humans with as much intelligence as you; therefore, they must also have reasons to feel the way they do. Finally, I just want to point out that you can have as many kids as you want too, muslims aren't the only ones allowed to have 10 to 20 children.

  • Posted By: Guard Dog 45 @ 12/31/2008 10:53:11 PM

    I guess I am not understanding this article in the correct manner, so any responses would be appreciated to help clear up my confusion. The next president of the USA is going to fix Islam by empowering the women of a foreign nation because "Why???" I think that he will have bigger problems to deal with than 'empowering' a small minority within a nation that he DOES NOT rule over....or is this part of the mind games that go along with you can accept our military help, our $$ when it is convenient to do so and then back stab us later on. The real way to "fix" Islam(is it broken?) is to let them run their country and let us run ours and to do so within the confines of intelligent minds. America's president is not elected to promote Equality within your Country anymore than Islam's Leader(s) are to promote Goodwill Policies within my country. Muslim women need to work within their own country to empower themselves, to become better educated, to become better Muslims. What magic button do you think we all push over here in America to get what we want? It just doesn't work the way you think it does. You have to want change, You have to Work for change, You have to Show that these changes can only BETTER your country and you have to have some real, workable solutions for implementing these changes to get them to work. If you need to look to America for some examples of how to make this work...go ahead. But don't expect OUR LEADER to make changes in YOUR COUNTRY...that is up to YOU! It always looks "greener on the other side of the fence" than it does in your own backyard, until you cross over the fence. What worked in our country may not work in your country...You are an adaptible people...pick what can be changed & improve your country (1) little step at a time. Nothing worth having comes easily. Guard Dog 45

    • Posted By: chedet @ 01/04/2009 8:38:45 PM

      I totally agree with you. Well said indeed.

  • Posted By: Sachibaat @ 01/04/2009 8:28:41 PM

    Civilised & True_indian Why does'nt anyone talk about the Caste System in Hinduism. This is one of its kind. The Hindus are by virtue of their religion divided into 5 castes. The privileged ones are the Brahmins & the downtrodden are the Harijans (the untouchables)
    The Harijans are treated worse than the animals. They are declared in Hindu religion as Achuths - untouchables. This is inhumane & the Western world & media never talk about it; or may be they do not think it is worth talking about. The treatment of the Hindu woman is no different, she too has to be empowered. The ones you see in the highly fantasized Indian movies have nothing to do with the masses. One has to admitt that the Hindu women has to fight their way out of Hindu radicalism & empower themselves; because their men folks will never do it as their religion does not allow it.

  • Posted By: Sachibaat @ 01/04/2009 5:54:39 PM

    To fix Chirtianity empower GAYS!

    • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/04/2009 8:04:01 PM

      While this is not on topic (neither is yours) I gotta say something here: To all gays: do what you will behind closed dorrs, but please be so kind as to close the door first. Most of us could care less about you and would rather not see you or hear about you. Better yet, if you are so unhappy here, move to Saudi Arabis, Iran or any of the other muslim nightmare countries.

  • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/04/2009 3:43:33 PM

    Freddie,i am curious,why but why would your family choose to immigrate to such a foul land with a disgusting culture,and why do you stay?surely there are other more acceptable countries for muslims to live in like Turkey,saudi Arabia,Pakistan,Indonesia.Why move to a Christian country,take all that it has to offer and turn aroud and insult it?

    • Posted By: freddiek @ 01/04/2009 3:57:18 PM

      $$$$$$$ and Education
      Exactly the same reason that the USA hase bases in Qatar, Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait and Turkmenistan---So I can use the resources for my benefit.
      Also-- just because the society has problems doesn't mean I have to necessarily participate in the degration of culture. I mean we can choose not to drink or to be a homosexual. I don't have to allow my duughters or wife to take nude pictures for money. We have choices, we take the good and we disavow the bad.
      Also, sometimes in the face of sinfulness the best muslims can strengthen faith---Iin an earlier post I wrote about how the best muslims are usually confronted with sin, but carry on without participation.

      • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/04/2009 8:00:08 PM

        Thanks for the reply freddie,but perhaps part of the problem is looking at the behavior of others as 'sinful'.Surely you understand that this is a judgement based only on your beliefs and nothing more.When we view ourselves as righteous and others as sinners our only recourse becomes isolation,which leads to predjudice and shortly violence.Something can be against our morals but that does not make it a sin.

  • Posted By: Sachibaat @ 01/04/2009 7:58:41 PM

    antimattero1o Why don;t you go & ask your stupid ignorant pundith or pujari to ask organisations as RSS, Bajrang dal, Shiv Sena & a dozen others to stop killing the Christians, Sikhs & Muslims. By the way what are your 18 consulates in Afghanistan doing along the Pak-Aghan border?
    What about the Indian army colonel Prohit blowing up the Samjautha bus with 68 men ,women, children in it.
    What about the massacre of the Muslims in Gujrat. You guys are shameless.

  • Posted By: basshus @ 01/02/2009 6:54:52 PM

    Islam is a way of life and the quran is a constitution for all muslims all over the world . in my opinion the problem is not in islam it is in muslims which take islam as a cover for each and everything they do no matter how bad it looks , and what is worse is that the western countries symbolize everything that looks or sounds like resistanse as terrorism , we no longer hear the name of the countries where supposdly them terrorists come from we only hear an islamic terrorist . and i agree with Irshad Manji only in one thing that the US needs to change its foriegn policy and approch the muslim world in a different ways. i recommend Hillary Clinton to lower the taxes going to israel each year and spend them inside the US for a better social security and education and health care this will get the US a great reputation to start from in its relations with the muslim world

    • Posted By: Civilized @ 01/04/2009 7:50:13 PM

      Muslims should grow up and start thinking independently rather than blindly following text in quaran or a mullah's preachings. You need to act like human beings first and don't get blinded by religion. You guys cannot think or talk normally without bringing in religion. To use common sense, you don't need religion. You will continue to be backward and radical as long as you are looking everything from a religious point of view.

  • Posted By: *Piper* @ 01/02/2009 12:43:25 PM

    To the commenter below, the statment that Islam "does not believe in the educating of girls" is incorrect. Check your "facts" before spreading the word - it is an easy thing to do. The amount of time I spend correcting people's misinformation - or complete speculation - of Islam is exhausting. In Islam, education of both men and women, seeking knowledge, is one of the most important forms of worship. See the below link:
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/70042/educate%20women

    In response to this riduculous article above, I couldn't continue past the first page, because it is already inaccurate and therefore an unreliable source of any information.
    Read the following link, which discusses religious regulations of adultery (called "zina" in Arabic). The article explains these regulations, placing them in a historical and religious context, including most of the major religions and their own rulings, including, but not limited to, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. You will find, by the end of the article, that Islam decrees a more just AND merciful law for those who commit the sin of adultery:
    http://www.islamicperspectives.com/Stoning4.htm

    • Posted By: Civilized @ 01/04/2009 7:38:49 PM

      Then why are girls not allowed to go to schools. Why is Taliban bombing schools.

  • Posted By: Civilized @ 01/04/2009 5:55:49 PM

    Muslims are you reading news everyday - A suicide bomber blew up a mosque in Iraq yesterday, a suicide bomber blew up a school in afganistan killing children, a suicide bomber blew up a police van in pakistan killing police, muslim terrorists open fire at railway stations in India, a suicide bomber blew up a hindu wedding in Kashmir, hamas sending rockets into Israel killing civilians, and on and on everyday. Something is seriously wrong with muslims, islam, and muslim governments and it should be fixed. Start acting normal and get over your religion

  • Posted By: Civilized @ 01/04/2009 5:41:08 PM

    Manji is absolutely right. Muslin countries should first seperate their religion from state. States and Mullahs should stop imposing 7th century practices on their citizens and give them freedom to do whatever they want to do. Muslim countries should monitor mullahs preaching hatred and violence in mosques and should be punished. Muslim women should have freedom like their men. Muslim countries should respect other religions.

  • Posted By: ormondron @ 01/04/2009 5:18:58 PM

    The two problems, as I see it from a far, is that there seems to be a double standard in the Muslim thinking. The fact that Muslim terrorists intentionally target innocent women and children does not engender outrage in the Muslim masses, but if the Israelis unintentionally kill the innocent civilians that the terrorists hide within, all Islam is outraged. Muslims willingly endorse sending rockets into Israel, but soundly reject Israel???s response.

    The other problem, as I see it, is that we are not dealing on National level ??? we are trying to deal with a dogmatic religion from a national secular position. Considering that Islamic terrorists are killing other Muslims and those who are not Islamic as well leaves one to wonder ??? does a way exist?

    I see no past history that would indicate, at least until some far distant future, that there is any way acceptable to the Muslims that can be taken by any or all non-Muslims to obtain a mutually accepted peace.

    It will take along time for the Koran to be redefined into a more peaceful work of faith.

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 01/04/2009 5:12:26 PM

    well i live in emerson park in london -it is like in the million pound bracket

    everyday there are cops calling in these affluent western homes where the husbands been beating the poor woman

    it is such a waste of public money
    and west needs to empower and teach their woman martial rather then marital skills

    so white western women can beat their burly husbands instead
    poor western woman
    i pity her
    all she gets is a black eye or a sex toy

  • Posted By: freddiek @ 01/04/2009 4:17:08 PM

    Manji also fails to highlight some of the many good things about Islam and the countries that are predominately Islamic.
    In the west its ok to throw your 80 year old mother in a senior home and to forget about her. In muslim countries there is no such place as a senior home. The older people of muslim countries are a priority of each muslim household and older people live with thier familes. You never hear or see abadonment of older people like you read about daily in the USA. The parents and older people play a large role in the family until he or she dies and they are never marginalized like they are in the USA.
    This is an example of how Islam treats people.

  • Posted By: FM24 @ 01/04/2009 3:59:20 PM

    it is ture muslim women are oppressed and treated liek *** y muslim men. before prohpoet muhammed they were treated asa prpoerty and buried alive. however, in western world, some women have been empowered and to some extentthey take advantage of that.

  • Posted By: freddiek @ 01/04/2009 3:43:30 PM

    I have always believed that monotheistic religion has been the enemy of gays theroughout the world and throughout time. This is no different, a gay woman writing articles to "change Islam" . Why should it change? You will be dead and gone in 40 years, but Islam and the Quran will outlast you until the world ends one day whenever that happens. People will be using the paper of your articles and books for fireplace fodder or for the kitty litter box.
    Get over yourself Manji. Your lifestyle need not be replicated--- as much as you want that it will never happen to the degree you hope for.
    Have you ever been to a small Islamic village anywhere in the world to see how the people live?
    I have been to the small Pakistani villages and I have lived in those villages. I know how the women live there. In many ways they are the ones in control, their daughters attend nice schools, they have as much internet/educational resources as they would want, they control the household's money and they usually make major decisions. The husbands and the fathers NEVER make a decision without the wives, mothers or duaghters of the house. I have attended those mosques and I have listened to the sermons made by these local mullahs and never once was anything ever mentioned against a woman,. Manji you need to understand the Islam has designed protections for women and they are still in place today, however even in Pakistan many women travel without the Hijab, as it is a personal preference. .
    Manji just wants Islam to accept her lifestyle. Manji claims to be a muslim so she can earn money for her "bulletproof" apartment. In a post 9/11 world Manji knows that the west likes to see supposed muslims attacking Islam and Manji is banking on that for her future earning power. I bet Manji and her girl pal werehappy on 9/11

  • Posted By: AntiMatter010 @ 01/03/2009 11:25:34 PM

    As the old adage goes, Not all muslims are terrorists but almost all the terrorists are muslims
    From Global terrorism Database- A sampling of the religion needing no fix !!!
    1. Abu Nidal Organization
    2. Abu Sayyaf Group
    3. Al-Aqsa
    4. Al-Badr
    5. Al Ghurabaa
    6. Al Ittihad Al Islamia
    7. al-Qa'ida
    8. al-Qa'ida in Iraq
    9. al-Qaeda Organization in the Islamic Maghreb
    10. Al-Umar-Mujahideen
    11. Ansar al-Islam
    12. Ansar us-Sunna
    13. Armed Islamic Group
    14. Asbat al-Ansar
    15. Deendar Anjuman
    16. Dukhtaran-E-Millat
    17. Egyptian Islamic Jihad
    18. Fatah al-Islam
    19. Gama'a al-Islamiyya
    20. Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front
    21. Hamas
    22. Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami
    23. Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami (Bangladesh)
    24. Harakat ul-Mujahidin
    25. Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen/Alami
    26. Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin
    27. Hezbollah
    28. Hizbul Mujahideen
    29. Indian Mujahideen
    30. Islamic Army of Aden
    31. Islamic Jihad Union
    32. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
    33. Jaish-e-Mohammed
    34. Jamaat ul-Furquan
    35. Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen
    36. Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh
    37. Jamiat ul-Ansar
    38. Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front
    39. Jemaah Islamiya
    40. Khuddam ul-Islam
    41. Lashkar-e-Toiba
    42. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
    43. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
    44. Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group
    45. Mujahedin-e Khalq
    46. Palestine Liberation Front
    47. Palestinian Islamic Jihad Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
    48. Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan
    49. Stichting Al Aqsa
    50. Students Islamic Movement of India
    51. Takfir wal-Hijra
    52. Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi

    And TALIBAN with PAKISTAN ISI

    • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 01/04/2009 8:36:33 AM

      Thank you for putting the names of most of the Islamic moments those are fighting against unjustice, cruelity, brutality, opperession, occupation and violations of basic, Human rights.
      You made it easy for lot many individuals to understand the extent of unjustice, brutality, cruelity, opperession and occupation of Muslim lands or people. Each moment or struggle indicates a situation where there is opperession, occupation, denial of basic rights and denial of right of self determination. A long list as you posted indicates how many parts in the world Muslims are facing tragic situation, where they are denied their basic rights and are facing oppression/ occupation and terror/brutality by the US, Israel, India, Philipine, in Europe and many other oarts of the world.
      We don't need to go far, what ILLIGITIMATE and TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAEL is doing against Palastinians is a clear proof of all the reasons I mentioned above leading to violent struggle. Where is so called CIVILIZED world. Are Palastinians not humanbeings, is Palastinian blood of different color than a Jew or Christian blood? Thos who call HAMMAS a terrorist organization, why they ignore the fact that HAMMAS is a grass root organization of Palastinians with tremendous support among Palastinians, who managed Ghaza better than puppet Mehmood Abbass in west Bank with no international support of any kind. Israeli aggressioin against Hamas and killing of palastinian indiscriminately is a crime against HUMANITY and US and so called western world is to share the blame for atrocities committed by Israelis against Palastinians.
      And further more it will be unjustice if I don't mention that many of the named organizations are welfare organizationa who have done exceptionally well during natural or human tragedies. Again its important that IRA and some other groups in Europe have been involved in violent struggle against Britian and other places but no one calls them TERRORIST group as they are white skin.
      Kep in mind that Islamic roles are strict and are usually called as Brutal, but the punishments are harsh so that no one could even think of committing crimes like killing someone, steeling, committing adultery or other crimes. Its to protect the society. Why we forget that we can't park our car whereever we want or park without paying at the meter (we get ticket, puprpose is to keep an order and discipline). No society can survive without establishing basic roles. Rights and responsibilities go side by side in Islam, my rights are someones responsibility and my responsibility is someones right.

      • Posted By: NewsDay @ 01/04/2009 2:21:10 PM

        I'm pretty sure pretty much everybody considered the IRA a terrorist group. Also, in regards to your argument that engaging in philanthropy immunizes an organization from charges of terrorism: if the Salvation Army decided tomorrow that, in addition to its normal activities, it should also shoot rockets into affluent areas to help the poor, they would be considered a terrorist organization, and rightly so.

      • Posted By: NewsDay @ 01/04/2009 2:20:56 PM

        I'm pretty sure pretty much everybody considered the IRA a terrorist group. Also, in regards to your argument that engaging in philanthropy immunizes an organization from charges of terrorism: if the Salvation Army decided tomorrow that, in addition to its normal activities, it should also shoot rockets into affluent areas to help the poor, they would be considered a terrorist organization, and rightly so.

      • Posted By: NewsDay @ 01/04/2009 2:16:21 PM

        I think pretty much everyone considered the IRA a terrorist group.

    • Posted By: True_Indian @ 01/04/2009 12:28:13 AM

      Almost all these organizations are having Pakistan' help. Pakistan is creator of Terror and epicenter of terrorism.

      • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 01/04/2009 8:40:36 AM

        India tried to copy cat US for 9/11 but stupid Bania (crook businessman) couldn't stand for it.

    • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 01/04/2009 8:38:22 AM

      Whenever and wherever there is injustice there will be a cry. And until and unless we give others what we owe them peace can't be achieved. And its the beauty of Islam that it has set strict roles and regulations to establish a model, but tragedy is that media due to its BIAS toward Islam always picks up individuals like manji and Fareed Zakria, individuals with distorted image and twisted/rebellion ideas about Islam as Muslim scholars, but I assure you this effort of the media will never succeed.

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 01/04/2009 5:13:03 AM

    i belong to an eminent kashmiri muslim family -i am highly qualified and i have studied all ideas and i have come to love islam as the ideal of my existence -my mother and sister are the same -affluent -highly educated and even more in love with islam .

    i want to know why these people have the right to not let us practice what we believe in as it is our human right according to BOTH EEC CHARTER AND USA CONSTITUTION -

    do these imbeciles realise they are refuting their own logic which is missed neuronal deficits indicating mental handicap by trying to interfere in our private lives .

    i have a good intention of taking these ignorant and ignominious islamophobes to court -as they can abuse islam as much as they want -it is a divine religion and if someone hates it -i leave the matter to divinity and the abusers alone
    but trying to fix me is a truly amusing and offensive intervention in my privacy

    it is like i should go and tell a christian or jew what to eat and drink and how to fornicate -does it sink in your limited shallow demented heads .
    i do not care if you fornicate in parks or beaches like dogs and cats and whether you do it to your mothers or sisters -so leave me the muslims alone as to what they want to live in their private lives -
    i hope you can respect that ideal but i am sceptical as people of your ilk have no respect for themselves and that is primal to human decency and morality

    • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/04/2009 12:53:00 PM

      You certainly sound highly educated and affluent.I am glad your religion has made you so peaceful,give my saalams to your family and people.

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