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  • Posted By: drosenthal @ 01/09/2009 9:07:05 PM

    As an American Jew, I am outraged at Israel's behavior in Gaza. It is Israel's practice of collective punishment and draconian tactics that stokes much of the anti-semitism in the Arab World and the West, not moderates like Mr. Miller who take an objective, realistic view of the situation. The rockets coming into Israel are inexcusable but they come from a few bad apples and Israel punishes all 1.5 million Gazans. The vast majority are poor, malnourished and devoid of hope. They truly are victims. Israel's Defense Minister summarized the country's position best in 2002 when he said that Palestinians must recognize that they "are a defeated people".

  • Posted By: leftjava @ 01/08/2009 2:44:58 PM

    Thank you for begining to make some sense out of this. I have been so tired of the one sided American press and it is so sad that the even handed commits are being made by Jon Steward (news in parody) and once in a great while on the McNeil PBS news hour. Other then those two yours is the first article that I've seen that has been fair. Kudos to you. Thanks again...

    • Posted By: Buttons @ 01/09/2009 8:22:13 PM

      Well the fist thesirst thinjg to do, is to stip gibg Israel billions evety year, as a gift. They so not need our blood money.
      A war vet

  • Posted By: umustbelieveit @ 01/09/2009 7:44:54 PM

    News Flash!
    The Jews WERE God's chosen people Until they rejected their messiah, you know the one named Jesus. In the eyes of a true christian who knows their bible they are considered non-believers and are in the same category as Budahists, Muslims, Hindus, rock worshippers, etc.. They don't know Jesus and will not enter his kingdom until they accept him as their saviour.

  • Posted By: sasghar @ 01/09/2009 12:38:05 PM

    Let's not forget Israel was carved from land previously belonging to Palestine so the fact that Palestinians have to fight to live like decent human beings while Israel enjoys land cultivated by Arabs long before they arrived is abhorrent. To characterize Palestinians as the ones constantly breaking with cease-fire and accords is entirely misleading meanwhile the Israeli army continues to dehumanize and terrorize average Palestinians to earn a decent living. When Israel decides it will respect universal humanity, is when they might see any semblance of peace on borrowed territory that they now live on.

    • Posted By: neocon @ 01/09/2009 1:27:31 PM

      When it comes to Israel many of its critics spend an inordinate amount of time citing international law, but how many of them actually are familiar with the law. Not to mention that law is subject to interpretation so just shouting that party ???A??? is in violation is not proof that this is so.

      I find it interesting that at the Pro-Hamas rallies people shout about how this is a humanitarian issue in one breath and in the next say that Jews should go to the ovens. It is a bit of a contradiction don???t you think.

      Along those lines isn???t it interesting that in places like London thugs are running amok and antisemitic incidents are on the rise. Must be the humanitarian side of them.

      • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 7:34:26 PM

        I can see that you did not reply to the post, you sidestepped it... Neocons are relics, they are a thing of the past. They are not to be trusted in government control...

  • Posted By: mommyof3 @ 01/09/2009 2:13:43 PM

    Wow it seems that Hamas and their followers have convinced many people that Israel is now the new tyrant. Nevermind what they stand for, nevermind their crimes and the injustices to their own people, nevermind their hatefull redoric which they publicly display to the world, nevermind that they hate America and that groups like them blew planes into buildings with innocent people and I am suppose to trust what they say!! Are you out your mind? Just for a moment people, take it in.....Remember 9/11.....We shall never forget.....It seems to have been forgotten already!! So much that now some are on their side believing the lie!! Terrorist lie people!! Remember how they blended into our society without anyone suspecting a thing, that's because most Americans can't fathem such evil so therefore we don't believe it. Terrorist would love you to believe that Israel is the scum of the earth!! That what they believe and will do anything to convince you, even sacrificing their people by making themselves look like the oppressed. Why would anyone in their right mind trust anything Hamas and their Palestinian followers have to say? They are liars and deceivers. I do believe America should do more in protecting the weak even the Arabs that have been brainwashed by Terrorist but not in a manner in which we have deny the truth and sleep with the enemy! America, wake up! Don't let the terrorist fool you. Yeah, Israel not perfect neither is America or anyother decent Nation who believes in Democracy, but it is clear that in this world there are good guys and bad guys, there is no gray area. Again, who would you trust living in America the Jew or the Muslim terrorist? We can still be humanitarians and caring individuals without compromising the truth and what is the truth. The truth is Hamas is a terrorist organization and they shouldn't be trusted. I don't know about you guys but I don't feel I have sympathize with the enemy to feel like a good person or even deny the truth for the sake of being considered balanced or open minded, unfortunately, their is alot of innocent lives being taken over this conflict but unfortunately I don't trust Hamas statements over Israel's simply because of what Hamas stands for wwhich I know most of you already know. Let's not give Hamas a valid voice, the innocent yes, remember they are brainwashed by them and it is extremely important not to deny the truth.

    • Posted By: M.Taimur @ 01/09/2009 2:41:11 PM

      Cheap rehotric. Thats all you said Mr. Very little facts but spuned up emotional speech. Remember 9/11. Ya thats it. 9/11. World started from 9/11 and it ended at 9/11. Are you Rudolph Guliani's Disciple?

      And if that doesn't work, anti-semitism, anti-semitism. You people are such a joke.. Even Jews are anti-semitic. As long as someone says Israel is wrong, he is an anti-semite. Soros is a anti-semite, Carter is an antisemite, blah blah

      • Posted By: mommyof3 @ 01/09/2009 4:29:18 PM

        Oh sorry for my lack of facts. I guess I must of dreaming when terrorist attacked the twin towers or when the news showed a crying Palestinian boy strapped with bombs ready to become a martyr, I think he was mentally ill! Poor boy!! Sorry but I don't comprehend. Terrorist also don't use their women as shields right? Oh yeah and they don't hate Jews either. My comment is not based on facts, right? The point that I was trying to make is that America cannot trust Hamas, maybe you can trust them, I don't know you might be Arab and if you are American all I can say is, wow! but I can't I am American. Hamas is a terrorist organization! Sorry but I am not threatend by the Jews nor do they or have ever waged war on America or Nations alike. Besides, the age old dispute over whose land is it anyway doesn't erase that fact that Terrorist are Murderous thugs who use their owm women and children as bombs and hate Jews and America! Don't get mad at me for it, take to the Terrorist leaders who allow the entire world to see this. What do you think the world is going to think when they see stuff like this? You think this makes them trustworthy organization when the use the weak in their society as martyrs? I also know enough to say that justification for their actions aren't solely on Land but their cause is for their deep rooted belief in their religion which calls anyone else outside of their belief as infidels, that is not a fact either, right? Sorry, but i am not going to believe the lie. I am out of here. Oh yeah that would Mrs. Not Mr.

        • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 7:29:11 PM

          Palestinian people are not terrorists... This is all much bigger than that and Isreal is to blame as well, and we shoudld not be backing them for any religiouos hysterics. BTW, didn't the jews throw Jesus to the wolves?

          It does not matter. It is not all that cut and dry and 9/11 and all of that exploitation. This country is not helping anything at all, and on top of it all we went back into Iraq for no reason, and under a lie. Who the fukk is going to trust our government?

          We have an opportunity to appear fair, and we damnn well better take it and take God out of the picture completely!!!!

        • Posted By: abbreviate @ 01/09/2009 4:46:22 PM

          How about this mommyof3: U.N.: One-third of Gaza casualties are children. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28573204/
          Look at the picture. 3 children.

          • Posted By: mommyof3 @ 01/09/2009 5:32:32 PM

            I have children myself and it really breaks my heart to see children at the cross fire of war and I wish wholeheartedly to help the innocent women and children, you might not believe that because I choose to speak againts the terrorist instead of Israel. I do believe that innocent people are getting hurt what I do not believe is that Hamas is taking the proper steps to make sure their people are safe or are they purposely use their innocent civilians as a way to speak against Israel! Sorry I don't put that pass them. And again seeing children does break my heart which is the only reason I would like to see a seize fire, not for Hamas but only for the innocent women and children. I know you are showing me this video, I don't think I need to show you videos of were Terrorist are shouting death to the Jews and Americans do I? Or pictures of victims of 9/11? Or the many atrocities that terrorist have committed around the world, you know like in England and Spain to name just a few. They were innocent people too, with absolutely no forewarning, now that is cowarldly don't you think? Both Israel and Palestine should get the innocent civilians out of harms way if they plan to continue the attacks which last I heard neither side was going budge.

            • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 7:21:14 PM

              How any times can you say 9/11??? How about a thousand more... 9/11... How mcuh can be exploited. How much can be justified?

  • Posted By: jimbo44 @ 01/09/2009 3:56:44 PM

    thank you for this post. very balanced. the analogy of mexico or canada firing rockets into the united states is far from accurate from the facts. Occupation under international law legally gives the occupied to fight occupation by any means neccesary. So a correct analogy would be if mexico occupied the united states and the united states then fought back against the mexican occupiers with rockets this is the situation and not the propaganda.

    • Posted By: ep122 @ 01/09/2009 5:47:27 PM

      Where do I sign up for the resistance against Mexico? : )

      • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 7:17:25 PM

        Don't know, but you better not drink the water, it is tainted by the hand of Satan... You will not be a happy camper:)

  • Posted By: NavyLadyvet @ 01/09/2009 2:37:16 PM

    Newsweek again shows their anti-israel liberal bias. America has stood with Israel for 60+ years and must continue to do so WITHOUT demanding that Israel give up more of her land. God Almighty (not the same as allah) gave all of that land to Israel, including the Gaza Strip, therefore it belongs to Israel permanently. America must love, stand with, and bless God's chosen people the Jews, or suffer the consequences which is God's wrath..

    There will NOT be peace in the Middle East until Jesus comes back. Every country in that area has vowed to destroy Israel so there will be war and fighting due to their hatred of the Jews, and greed for Israel's land.

    It's really a pathetic shame that Newsweek writers won't do better research into the real reasons for all the hatred and war going on over there, and the editorial staff and owners of Newsweek insist on continuing with their obvious stinking liberal biases.. Enough already!! Quit being stupid, arrogant, liberal windbags and print something that is worth reading!!

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 7:10:11 PM

      God didn't give Isreal that land at all. Do you have a copy of the deed??? Please tell everybody you know that belives this to keep ouot of it. It only serves to way overcomplicate an already complicated situation. We don't neeed freaks fukking this up any more than it is...

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 7:07:46 PM

      You reazlly do not understand the history do you? Is it all about the Jesus mumbo jumbo? I bet if we took God out of the equation things would be so much easier in this world. God should be a personal god, not something to justify, or be part of some crazy fukking self fulfilling prophesy...

  • Posted By: umdterps013 @ 01/09/2009 5:36:50 PM

    Israel has every right to try to stamp out a government that supports sending rockets over to blow up innocent civilians and who would like nothing more than to see their destruction. If you have already forgotten, it was Israel that gave Palestinians the ability to self-govern for the first time in hundreds of years. Not the British or Ottomans. So Israel gave them a chance, and Gaza ruined it.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 5:54:14 PM

      Maybe GWB should have promote another election in palestine, that might help:)

  • Posted By: ep122 @ 01/09/2009 5:30:29 PM

    I guess I know now what they mean when they say you can use the bible to justify just about anything. Want to steal some land? Want to kill a bunch of defenseless, starving children? The Bible says it's Okay, because these are the chosen people. Destroying the rocket launchers will DO NOTHING. Iran will restock them for free within a few months. Treat the disease (inequality, disease, hunger, joblessness, discrimination, murder....)

  • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/09/2009 5:22:47 PM

    If we could take God out of these equations everyone would be so much better off.

  • Posted By: malihide15 @ 01/09/2009 4:56:48 PM

    Dwight D.Eisenhower is the only American President who kept the Zionist at bay. In 1954 he denied Tel Aviv funding
    the next war.Two years later Zionists did the dirty work for Britain &France.President Eisenhower stopped them in their tracks..He should be a role model for Obama .

  • Posted By: Opinionated1 @ 01/09/2009 4:50:26 PM

    Listen the comments about being unfair to Israel and not loving the Israeli people in for inaccurate....Right is right and wrong is wrong. The comments of Jews being the chosen people and so forth are understandable, but that does not give them to right to confiscate people's land and basically imprison them on a strip of land where they are not free to move about, because you are afraid that they will retaliate for the wrongs that have been done to them. The Palestinains are tired of rockets too. But they eant to live free and they want their land back...That is the key to this whole issue. Israel won what they won during the war, but the Israleis continue to illegally plant settlements upon Palestinaian land;. And the Palestianians are tired of the government double speak, Israel and American government. So Israel is really fighting to keep land that is not theirs. They are aggravating the situation and have been for many many years, with no one calling a spade a spade. And the only ones that have been able to listen and basically side with the Palestinians are the other Arab nations, that's why this situation has escalated. This is the escalation of a situation that began over land....LAND! And Israel has got to give the Palestinians back land that is rightfully theirs and stop allowing their citizens to take it. Just because you are the "chosen people" doesn't not give you the right to step all over someone else's rights.

  • Posted By: jimbo44 @ 01/09/2009 3:56:17 PM

    thank you for this post. very balanced. the analogy of mexico or canada firing rockets into the united states is far from accurate from the facts. Occupation under international law legally gives the occupied to fight occupation by any means neccesary. So a correct analogy would be if mexico occupied the united states and the united states then fought back against the mexican occupiers with rockets this is the situation and not the propaganda.

  • Posted By: archmsu @ 01/09/2009 3:46:19 PM

    He's not going to do a darn thing! Nor should he.....we have alot of alot of problems at home that need attention. Besides, they will never solve this. One side needs to destroy the other.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 01/09/2009 3:29:03 PM

    Charlie Krauthammer,writing in todays Washington Post,again hits the nail on the head. The terrorist thugocracy that is HAMAS is the main obstacle to peace in the region. If this were not so,they would not also be going after FATAH in order to hang onto power. The idea of ''international peacekeepers''that will keep the lid on between the two sides as advanced by several mediators including Carter is a laughable farce,as is already being witnessed by the totally neutered-by-HEZBOLLAH actions of UNFIL in Lebanon,where HEZBOLLAH is openly moving arms and men in the now-routine violations of the deal that was supposed to end the 2006 War. Israel should crush HAMAS move to embrace the PA moderates that HAMAS is already targeting,and cut a deal for the withdraw of Jewish settlements for acceptance of Israels right to exist within the field of compromise unfettered by the presence of these terrorist gangsters.

  • Posted By: ChristianPLOSoldier @ 01/09/2009 2:48:32 PM

    The Israelis are the inventors of modern terroist tactics: bombs in crowded market places, attacks on civilian villages; the PLO spent the 1950s studying Jewish terror tactics in order to trun them against their perpetrators.

    Israel is also the world most egregeous rogue state: it is in violation of more UN resolutions than any other nation, for a longer time. It's like if Sudan or Milosevic's Serbia or Saddam's Iraq had carte blanche because the US protected them at the UN Security Council despite international outrage.

    Resistance to occupation is legal under international law. This is what the Palestinians have been doing for 40 years. If the Tibetans do it it's ok, but not the Palestinian?? Why? Moreover the Israelis respond every time with exponential collective punishment of civilians, which you justify by saying the people "brought it upon themselves" by refusing to roll over and accept ethnic cleansing and life in a giant open-air prison camp.

  • Posted By: ChristianPLOSoldier @ 01/09/2009 2:38:29 PM

    Forget the 100-to-1 kill ratio. Let's look at the context: 1) the rockets; their context? the siege of Gaza: for 4 years the Israelis have been bombing and starving the 1.4 million people in the giant prison camp that is Gaza. 2) "but wait, didn't these people elect Hamas, which wants to destroy Israel?" - Yes, but in what context was that? Haven't the Israelis been voting into power for 60 years parties, left and right, which not only advocate the destruction of the Palestinians as a people, but have in fact carried it out without reprieve? As Labor, Likud ans Kadima are all Zionist parites, isn't the wiping of Palestine off the face of the map their reason for existence? 3) "yes, but what about the context of the Holocaust? didn't the Jews need a homeland?" - Sure, but why at the expense of the Palestinians? They didn't commit the Holocaust!" 4) "But wasn't it the Arabs who refused the original partition plan?" - Yes, this is a plan that would have given to the Jewish newcomers 3 times the land they had already taken, bought or stolen. OF COURSE the Arabs rejected it, there's no people on earth who wouldn't have! And in the resulting war the Israelis took TWICE even that land, leaving the rightful owners with only 22% of the land they had inhabited for 2,000 years.

  • Posted By: HJarrar @ 01/09/2009 2:30:48 PM

    This is a somehow honest article. Very rare i've seen such artcles on American media.

    I, as a man of Palestinian origin having the Jordanian nationality and living in Saudi Arabia where I work there, I'm fully convinced that America's support of israeli brutal occupation has been outragous and even encouraging for all of the attrocities and massacres that the israelis have been, and still are, committing against Palestinians as well as arabs and muslims.

    But I, as well as many arabs and muslims, have big big doubts about this(subject of the article). Many here fully believe that any American president must, and I mean must, fully adhere to serving israel's brutal occupation and israel's views. This has been consistent for the past 60 years and I do not think it will change with Obama. Afterall, Obama's first appointment was Ram Emanuel who's history in serving israel is quite obvious and he will be Chief of Staff.

    Thanks,
    Hazem Awni Jarrar

  • Posted By: HJarrar @ 01/09/2009 2:30:05 PM

    This is a somehow honest article. Very rare i've seen such artcles on American media.

    I, as a man of Palestinian origin having the Jordanian nationality and living in Saudi Arabia where I work there, I'm fully convinced that America's support of israeli brutal occupation has been outragous and even encouraging for all of the attrocities and massacres that the israelis have been, and still are, committing against Palestinians as well as arabs and muslims.

    But I, as well as many arabs and muslims, have big big doubts about this(subject of the article). Many here fully believe that any American president must, and I mean must, fully adhere to serving israel's brutal occupation and israel's views. This has been consistent for the past 60 years and I do not think it will change with Obama. Afterall, Obama's first appointment was Ram Emanuel who's history in serving israel is quite obvious and he will be Chief of Staff.

    Thanks,
    Hazem Awni Jarrar

  • Posted By: bajan man @ 01/09/2009 3:09:16 AM

    JEWISH NAZIS

    Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's knowledge and approval.
    Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
    Two field marshals
    Fifteen generals
    Two full generals,
    Eight lieutenant generals,
    Five major generals, "commanding up to 100,000 troops."
    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
    One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
    One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
    In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.''
    Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

    • Posted By: ArKelsey @ 01/09/2009 11:15:01 AM

      You seem to be forgetting that there was no state of Israel during WWII. These Jews were German citizens and had suffered through the first World War like everybody else. So it makes sense that some of them were influenced by Hitler's rhetoric. Besides, if an indomitable military force arose and began conquering the world, and then decided to systematically exterminate everyone of your faith/heritage/ethnicity, what would you do to survive?

      • Posted By: abbreviate @ 01/09/2009 2:25:21 PM

        ... and then they emigrated to Palestine and created state Israel...

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