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  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/09/2009 5:38:53 AM

    Bajan Man thank you for coming here and showing everyone what is wrong with the world, you argument about Jewish names reflecting their values is so far off the mark that it is impossible to repond. Masry your a pthetic jelous B*itch for agreeing with this sick crap. Your argument about the holocaust shows that you have never picked up a a book, visited a musuem or even taken the itme to watch a documentary, or at least speak with anyone besides your primitive circle of oppressed friends. Your lack of response to sooner's or anyone else comments towards your posts show that you have NO argument just rhetoric, meaningless banter and a youtube clip. You are both obviously jelous of Jewish success in America and Europe, after thousands of years of persectuion they as a people have somehow been able to become a relativly successfull and your jelousy shines through. Please dont reproduce!!! But I am assuming allah told you to have 19 kids so its probably too late. By the way, how do you plan on feeding all those kids in poverty you sick jelous backwards f*ck?

    • Posted By: BTWIST @ 01/09/2009 2:02:00 PM

      So by saying Allah, you're also referring to Jehovah... now would our god say anything like that?
      I liked your response at first but your stupidity let you down at the end -that's all...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/09/2009 9:26:35 AM

    Excerpt from the Times shows exactly why this is Hamas fault and the Gaza citizens are a victim of religion -

    A car arrived with more patients. One was a 21-year-old man with shrapnel in his left leg who demanded quick treatment. He turned out to be a militant with Islamic Jihad. He was smiling a big smile.
    ???Hurry, I must get back so I can keep fighting,??? he told the doctors.
    He was told that there were more serious cases than his, that he needed to wait. But he insisted. ???We are fighting the Israelis,??? he said. ???When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away.??? He continued smiling.
    ???Why are you so happy???? this reporter asked. ???Look around you.???
    A girl who looked about 18 screamed as a surgeon removed shrapnel from her leg. An elderly man was soaked in blood. A baby a few weeks old and slightly wounded looked around helplessly. A man lay with parts of his brain coming out. His family wailed at his side.
    ???Don???t you see that these people are hurting???? the militant was asked.
    ???But I am from the people, too,??? he said, his smile incandescent. ???They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too.???

    • Posted By: BTWIST @ 01/09/2009 1:52:12 PM

      An interesting false story by an anti-muslim prick. Moving on, did you ever notice the misuse of the word jihad? it's my brother's name, and it was given to him with intent to describe his struggle for the better at hard times, making the right decisions...That's what jihad means, please take me seriously when i say i'm against the terrorists that misuse the name jihad, and the excuse that it is for god - that is not islam, it's against islam. Did you know that ISLAM (not arabs or terrorists or what not) has respect for jews, as it does for christians? It's because we all believe in the same god, regardless of the names we give him, we are all connected by god, and we should remain peaceful.
      Don't be so easily mislead by these biased articles everyday, get decisive information from both sides :)

  • Posted By: Israel's Biggest Fan @ 01/09/2009 10:07:03 AM

    Bajan, fayetaye, masry, willem- your Hamas field commander just called. He says for you guys to get off the computers and get back to the fight against Israel. I told him that you guys ARE fighting for Hamas, just on the internet instead of in the streets of Gaza. He asked if you guys were doing alright... I said, yeh, they're doing a fine job for you, sir. But then I told him that most of America is against what Hamas and other terrorists are doing. He said, at least he can count on a few Americans. I said, yes, sadly you can, sir. As he hung up the phone, I heard him scream "god is great!" and something about "...your virgins await you in paradise...".

    • Posted By: BTWIST @ 01/09/2009 1:37:42 PM

      you VULGUR DISGRACEFUL BASTARD
      why don't you get off and fight for israel? (i believe your stupidity wouldn't let you know...it's a rhetorical question)
      now by saying "god's great" and "virgins await in paradise", i must call you a misguided fool, your anger puts you in a miserable position, it's like taking "hell" out of "hello", youneed to research properly before you spill wrecklessly.
      You don't know enough about islam to talk, I at least have the decency to look into every religion and say "religious (not extremist) jews can be very generous people, why not go and get to know them better?".
      What i'm trying to say by this message is that you should know the difference between terrorists and muslims. Here's a warm welcome from a muslim to some that may not know, Islam fully endorces peace - terrorists do not, muslims value their lives and are not forbidden from suicide - terrorists make excuses.
      I've done my part here...and there's more for you to know...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/09/2009 11:31:29 AM

    ding your a f*cking moron Hamas IS hiding amoung their own people, even the Gaza citizens have compained about it.
    How can you stereotype a hole race of people spread around the entire world? Do Jews blow up subways and fly planes into buildings? No, does the Jewish religion call for the destruction of any states or any people that dont beleive what they do? No, did most American Jews even vote for Bush? No, but they kill Christian kids right? ??? Where do you even get tnat from you people spend way too much time in the hot sand

    • Posted By: BTWIST @ 01/09/2009 1:12:43 PM

      "you people"? so much for stereotyping, you can't even segregate us from desert sand, and btw do you know that, as part arab in blood, I live in the centre of london? pick your words carefully before you throw insults...

  • Posted By: neocon @ 01/09/2009 12:55:27 PM

    1,571 rockets and 1,531 mortar bombs fired from the Gaza Strip have struck southern Israel since the beginning of the year (Jan-Dec 2008).

    Why not get tough with the terrorists?

  • Posted By: M.Taimur @ 01/09/2009 12:12:48 PM

    it is not Hamas who broke the ceasefire, Israel did. American people unfortunately have to absorb lot of BULL from their media which is offcourse biased towards Israel. On 4th November, Israeli army entered Gaza and killed 6 palestinains. There were no rocket attacks before that. How the hell did Hamas break the ceasefire? Opening all Gaza crossings was also part of the June ceasefire but only few were opened that to for a very short interval of time sporadically. They were choking Gazans anyway.

    Israel Gave away Gaza to Palestinains but continued to confiscate their land in WestBank. Can anyone tell me why?

    "We have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where this process leads." - Moshe Dayan, former Israeli Minister of Defense . This is what peaceful Israelis think. If a Palestinian said such a thing about Jews, offcourse it would be anti-semitism with headlines everywhere.

    Why don't the people displaced by the arrival of european Jews to Palestine have the right to return.? Why? Because Israel will then have less Jews?

    Why should Hamas recognize Israel before a settlement. Did native americans recognize the right of US to exist? Did the natives of Australia do that? Israel wants to get every right before they can talk abput other people's rights which they have offcourse trampled upon. Super

  • Posted By: boscobear @ 01/09/2009 10:11:10 AM

    It was not Israel who started this latest round of killining, it was Hamas who started shooting rockets into Israel. Like someone has already stated, if Mexico started firing rockets into Texas, just what do you think our response would be? Hamas is afraid if peace ever comes to this area, then they will lose power. Becasue if there is peace, then why would you listen a violent bunch of killers.

    • Posted By: Michael II @ 01/09/2009 10:53:56 AM

      Israel violated the ceasefire on several occasions by shooting at people inside Gaza, as well as fishermen. They also made an incursion that cost 8 lives. More than anything else, they never let supplies in for any serious amount of time. The shelling - though stupid and dangerous - was a response to this. Hamas twice offered to extend the ceasefire to the West Bank. Israel refused, preferring to quickly stick the boot in in case Obama has different ideas about foreign policy.

      • Posted By: ArKelsey @ 01/09/2009 11:35:17 AM

        Yes, and Hamas violated that same ceasefire at least as many times. And Hamas only offered to extend the ceasefire to the West Bank on the condition that Israel stopped all shooting altogether. So Hamas' deal basically implied that they would continue firing rockets at Israel except in the West Bank as long as Israel didn't retaliate. Is that a rational negotiation? Israel also has a policy much like our own of never negotiating with terrorists, and I think it is a smart one. How do you negotiate with a group of people who welcome death in exchange for destroying people they hate?

  • Posted By: ding123 @ 01/09/2009 11:13:22 AM

    Arkelsey you are an idiot.....Hamas hiding among civilians. Gaza strip is 12 miles long and 5 miles wide with 1.5 Million people ...you bone head. You keep talking about terrorist ...you know what you great idiot president taught about it. get back to you hole and learn something or read about the history of jewish people...they killed their own prophets and Christian kids ...blood loving MFs

    • Posted By: ArKelsey @ 01/09/2009 11:21:27 AM

      Wow, that post made a lot of sense. At first, I didn't realize what you meant about the whole "You talk about terrorists" line, but the 'bone head' put it all in perspective for me.

  • Posted By: Fayetaye @ 01/09/2009 9:37:59 AM

    It is true Americans are not the smartest people in the world. The fact that there are so many pro israeli supporters on this blog elicitly proves my statement. I bet all you israeli supporters did not know this :The close relationship between the two states is
    reflected in the volume of aid Israel receives from
    the US. Since World War II Israel has been the
    largest overall recipient of US aid: from 1949-2006
    Israel received more than $156 billion of direct US aid.

    Until 2003, Israel received approximately
    one-third of the annual US foreign aid budget.
    In 2005, the US gave Israel more than $2.6 billion
    in aid, a budget exceeded only by US aid to Iraq.
    By comparison, Jordan received $683.6 million,
    Rwanda received $77 million, and the Occupied
    Palestinian Territories received $348.2 million

    Wow Israeli is obviously great in bed with USA.

    The US also lends money to Israel, but these loans are
    frequently waived before any repayments are made.
    The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs has
    estimated that from 1974-2003 Israel benefited from
    more than $45 billion in waived loans from the US.

    -
    Wonderful isn't it.

    • Posted By: ArKelsey @ 01/09/2009 11:07:32 AM

      Maybe you should look up how much money the U.S. sends to Egypt and Venezuela in foreign aid as well. Israel isn't the only country receiving copious amounts of U.S. aid.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/09/2009 10:58:14 AM

      Last Year 3 Billion Dollars of the U.S Tax Payers Billions went to Israel...

      I said 3 Billion of U.S Tax Payers Money went to Israel !!!


      That money could go where it is truly need...

      Here in the USA

      Israel is supposed to be an Independent , Self Sufficient State...

      Those Billions belong to the Poor U.S. Tax Payer, whose barely getting by or worse, Down & Out.

      Had these Billions been been given to the ...

      Poor U.S. Tax Payers of this Country and the U.S. Government Streamlined how the money would be allocated to the Poor in America and how it is to be spent invested and saved, to ensure an end to Generational Poverty...

      Generational Poverty would end within 25-30 Years, for a Great number of Impoverished Americans.

      Yet the US Government is Dolling out US Tax Payers Money to Israel and other Countries.

      This must END, not only in Israel's case, but for Most Countries we Give Honest Tax Payers Millions-Billions to.

      We have got to put Americans and their Financial Duress First and not Last.


      Put American's Issues and Concerns First

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/09/2009 11:05:57 AM

    Last Year 3 Billion Dollars of the U.S Tax Payers Billions went to Israel...

    I said 3 Billion of U.S Tax Payers Money went to Israel !!!


    That money could go where it is truly needed...

    Here in the USA

    Israel is supposed to be an Independent , Self Sufficient State...

    Those Billions belong to the Poor U.S. Tax Payer, whose barely getting by or worse, Down & Out.

    Had these Billions been given to the ...

    Poor U.S. Tax Payers of this Country and the U.S. Government Streamlined how the money would be allocated to the Poor in America and how it is to be spent invested and saved, to ensure an end to Generational Poverty...

    Generational Poverty would end within 25-30 Years, for a Great number of Impoverished Americans.

    Yet the US Government is Dolling out US Tax Payers Money to Israel and other Countries.

    This must END, not only in Israel's case, but for Most Countries we Give Honest Tax Payers Millions-Billions to.

    We have got to put Americans and their Financial Duress First and not Last.


    Put American's Issues and Concerns First

  • Posted By: M.Miller @ 01/09/2009 2:47:12 AM

    Why does no one see an f'ing thing wrong with the suicide bombed Isreali returaunts and weddings and crowded buses and markets, along with the thousands of rockets that have been lobbed at Isreal that caused this in the first place? How many Palestinians (and Arabs, for that matter) were dancing in the streets just after 9/11? How many of these "poor" Gazans voted a terrorist outfit into power? Hamas kills civilians to gain headlines! It's there primary weapon. They use women and children for human shields and toss them aside like an empty beer can if there are no photographers around, which they will kill if they don't photograph what Hamas wants. They are full out fanatic, bloodthirsty freaks and sadly, the only way to get rid of them is to kill them. ANY society or ideology that condones terrorism (notice how these same peoples treat their women like property) has no right at all to expect any rights in the civilzed world. They act like animals, they can only expect to be treated like animals. Remember, if Hamas and the Palestinians laid down their arms, they'd have a state in a matter of months. If the Isrealis laid down their arms, they'd be slaughtered in a matter of days.

    • Posted By: Michael II @ 01/09/2009 10:49:11 AM

      "How many Palestinians (and Arabs, for that matter) were dancing in the streets just after 9/11?" You've asked the question, now you can answer it presumably.

      "How many of these "poor" Gazans voted a terrorist outfit into power?" There are some 1.5 million people in Gaza. At least 50% are under the voting age. Hamas took 42% of the votes. So assuming (generously) that 100% of voters actually voted, that makes 21% of Gazans at most might have voted for Hamas. So we bomb 79% of the innocents, right?

      Besides, voting is either an obligation or a right, depending on where you live. Nowhere I know is it a crime punishable by blockade or bombing.

      The Israeli response is shocking, given that the ceasefire did bring about a significant reduction in rockets. Hamas even offered to extend it to the West Bank if Israel held up its side. It didn't, preferring to unleash a second Guernica. Excuse me if I suspend approval.

    • Posted By: Michael II @ 01/09/2009 10:48:47 AM

      "How many Palestinians (and Arabs, for that matter) were dancing in the streets just after 9/11?" You've asked the question, now you can answer it presumably.

      "How many of these "poor" Gazans voted a terrorist outfit into power?" There are some 1.5 million people in Gaza. At least 50% are under the voting age. Hamas took 42% of the votes. So assuming (generously) that 100% of voters actually voted, that makes 21% of Gazans at most might have voted for Hamas. So we bomb 79% of the innocents, right?

      Besides, voting is either an obligation or a right, depending on where you live. Nowhere I know is it a crime punishable by blockade or bombing.

      The Israeli response is shocking, given that the ceasefire did bring about a significant reduction in rockets. Hamas even offered to extend it to the West Bank if Israel held up its side. It didn't, preferring to unleash a second Guernica. Excuse me if I suspend approval.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/09/2009 10:13:34 AM

    Haha wow in trying to prove a point and call me hatefull you insulted and stereotyped Americans by making fun of fast-food chains all over the world that just happen to be American owned? Are you making any points or not? I simply posted an article written by a very credible source the NYtimes. Then you go on below to say that all Americans are stupid? Funny because we have the best Universities in the world, and some of the leading research centers as well, but yes some are dumb just like every country has both smart and dumb people in it (besides whatever *** hole you obviously crawled out of) . Your calling me hatefull? What about some of the anti - Isreal anti-jewish postings on this blog by bahanman et. al.? I just repsonded to them, have you read any of them? Take a look at yourself you sound like a child, I look like Drew Carey and eat Whataburger ? Try to stay on the point buddy. Anyway for you to say that radical Islam is not a major problem is laughable, how do you negotaite with people that still live in the 8th century and think to die for Islam is good?
    And furthermore you can go F*ck yourself ... I hope your tent gets blown over in a sand storm

  • Posted By: Fayetaye @ 01/09/2009 9:49:29 AM

    Drew Carry /caeng whatever!, i bet you look like Drew Carrey too lol.
    Why are you so hateful towards others who share a different point of view than yours.
    Guess who was marching in the streets of New York yesterday. Jews from Israel who are totally against israeli occupation of palestine and are not afraid to stand up for the truth. You do not even know half of what they do know but yet here you are championing for the israeli cause because i guess you want to share with the world how much you hate muslims arabs islam allah right?. Okay we all know now so go and get yourself another mcdonalds or whattaburger and fries and go wallow in your hatred for them.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/09/2009 7:55:16 AM

    Not true at all Murgatroyd! Jews have lived on that land for thousands of years even before the birth of Islam. The land was British and split up by them. Palestine was both Jewish and Arab for centuries. There never was an Arab state of Palestine!!!!!

  • Posted By: Ethan30 @ 01/09/2009 2:25:40 AM

    It's have been 200 of years now of Jews in the Middle East suffering from muslim violence and terror attacks, wars- all because they were born Jewish.

    Did the Jewish people become suicide bombers? No. They tried to build their own country and live in peace with their nighbors.

    Now you are justifying 8 years of firing rockets at Israeli schools, "old- homes", twons and cities by claiming that Israel should have opened their border when the Gazans eleceted a government who wroks tirelessly to bring an end to Israel?

    I don't know what had happened to the Woodrow Wilson School, but this article is an abomination to justice..

    • Posted By: Murgatroyd @ 01/09/2009 7:24:28 AM

      Hmmm how do you think that the state of Israel was built? Do you honestly think the Jew perused a map and picked an unhibated piece of land and then occupied it... Oh how little you know my friend. And incidentaly all these 'terrorist' tactics of throwing bombs into buildings etc etc. Yes, done by the Jews when trying to create the state of Israel. Israel was not founded on a fluffy lovely democracy, it was borne of throwing people off their land, creating millions of refugees and then wondering why these people are fighting back. This reminds of the minstry of truth in Orwell's 1984, the rewriting of history and erasing inconvenient truths.

  • Posted By: acdayrit @ 01/09/2009 6:21:01 AM

    miller's suggestion are all well and fine. but then obama is only listening to emmanuel and aipac.

  • Posted By: bajan man @ 01/09/2009 3:28:16 AM

    /www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRZSzdQuOqM

    USS Liberty attacked by kikkes

    Watch this video for an example of Jew treachery.

    • Posted By: willemVB @ 01/09/2009 4:23:08 AM

      thanks for pointing out where to find this on youtube! Everybody should see this.

  • Posted By: masry @ 01/09/2009 3:43:05 AM

    THE TRUTH HURTS,DOESNT IT SOONER!!
    WOW,THATS A GREAT VIDEO,EFFIN ISRAEL ,THEY WILL CUT A DEAL TO BACKSTAB THEIR OWN ALLIE!!
    ITS IN THEIR BLOOD!!

    • Posted By: sooner1969 @ 01/09/2009 4:12:19 AM

      not the high point in US/ Israeli relations. After reading the reports there are a lot of questions raised. But the cheesy video was poorly put together and any conspiracy nut with any technical savvy can put together propoganda laced crap like that.

  • Posted By: BRUCEeffinWALTKE @ 01/09/2009 4:09:37 AM

    Hmmm. I wonder if this Miller is related to Lisa Miller; two first class heroes that write for the 'milk of the weak', "Newsweek".

    And Willem, the United States and half of Europe was built on 'stolen land'. Nice work Willem; way to stay on top of your history.

    It doesn't take an absolute moron to realize that the Middle East is one big 'O.K. Corral', but at least Israel isn't suicide bombing people. I vote for any nation that doesn't breed or tolerate insanity like that. Oops. Not so fast, Palestine.

  • Posted By: elfprince14@hotmail.com @ 01/09/2009 2:45:06 AM

    Robbed the US of 50 Billion? Where exactly do you get these figures? Are you talking about the money the US government has willingly given to Israel? Palestine has no right to exist, not the other way around. Israel was created first, and it is their land. Hamas has promoted terroism, and given aid to terrorist factions. Not just for themselves but for worldwide terrorism. America must present a strong support to a country that is willing to defend itself.

    • Posted By: willemVB @ 01/09/2009 4:06:01 AM

      History tells us something very different. When was the state of Israel formed?

      Let the Palestinians have their state and give them back their land. Otherwise you will always have war

    • Posted By: bajan man @ 01/09/2009 2:55:56 AM

      The US taxpayer has given over 50 billions to these creeps over the last 60 years, and what do they do with the money? They buy cluster bombs and other weapons to drop on Palestinian children. These people are unrepentant monsters and should be ostracised by the civlised world. They have not even tried to hide their savagery: they have killed over 175 children in the last 10 days, over 275 innocent women. These monsters have no conscience. All US taxpayers should demand their government to stop supporting these swine. The sooner the better.

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