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  • Posted By: Ethan30 @ 01/09/2009 1:03:09 AM

    The Palestinians want Israel to be destroyed and the Jews killed. They elected the Hamas based on this agenda and the Hamas has been doing whatever it can to kill and injure as many jews as possible.

    Israel withdrew from Gaza more than 3 years ago and only wanted quiet.

    For the past 8 years the South of Israel had to suffer rocket attacks that targeted schools, hospitals and the homes of ordinary people.

    How do you negotiate your right to exist? to live?

    • Posted By: leftjava @ 01/09/2009 2:24:46 AM

      We read different news. Israel withdrew? uh, hmmm seems to me that I have read somewhere that the settlement from Russian immigrats increased in the last 3 years......Yeah, it would be easy to blame one side or the other, but having seen so much of life, I am unaable to draw these same conclusions. I just keep wondering how I would feel if for 4 generations I would have had to watch my children grow up in a refugee camp. Or how I would feel if the land of my father's was taken away from me. My guess is that probably the same as the American Natives feel....I guess might makes right, but I have trouble with that one. But hey we will see how American's politicians react. Hey I'm old enough to remember when America gave money and arms to Ben Laudin's group to fight the Russian's Boy their battles in Afganstan brought Russia to its knees for almost 2 decades, wanna make a bet that just might happen here too? hmmmm

  • Posted By: masry @ 01/09/2009 2:23:27 AM

    israel has had a carte blanche to do whatever it wants for the last 60 years and that has to stop.our new president will b the only hope to stop this and find common ground between the arabs and the israelis.

  • Posted By: elfprince14@hotmail.com @ 01/09/2009 2:22:26 AM

    This is pathetic to just attack each other. Israel has a right to defend their homeland. Biblically, and historically for those who do not believe in God, Israel is the land of the Jews. They have a human right to defend thier land as it was never the Palestinians in the first place. The Jews, by the way josh123, have bought weapons from the U.S., supplying th U.S. with money and a firmer friendship, allow our troops and air force to travel through their land and air space, and are closely tied in with America on many other bridges. That's what they have done.

  • Posted By: Emmilly @ 01/09/2009 1:36:00 AM

    PRO ISRAEL!

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/09/2009 2:19:13 AM

      Pro Extermination the the Palestinians are YOU...

      Hitler, The Nazi Party, The Aryan Nation, The KKK, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin and All Racist Organizations around the World must be Real Proud of YOU.

  • Posted By: indynate @ 01/09/2009 1:16:14 AM

    Clearly you don't fully understand. The arab world doesn't give a damn what an American president says. Israel may stop, but will the Arabs? No. Indefinitely they will push on to destroy Israel and try to "wipe it off the face of the planet" in the words of mr. Ahmadinijad (I don't know how to spell it but you get the idea). Do you not realize that the same people seeking to destroy Israel are the exact same that are trying to destroy America? Did you not pay attention to the 9/11 attacks? We have to protect our borders just as Israel protects theirs. Take a look at the arab states. What arabs have a better way of life; those living in Israel or those in the arab states? Israel gives every right to them. Otherwise Palestenians have no rights, not like they do in Israel. This is a religious war. Your politics will not solve it. Nothing can solve it.

    • Posted By: leftjava @ 01/09/2009 2:14:45 AM

      Whoa, Do you really believe this? Is it easier to hate when you don't give a face to individuals and group a people all together? Let's see from what I am getting from you is that this group of people want to destroy America ( and its allies), Please just trying to understand your logic. If I've got this correct, now why do you suppose that is true? Could their be a reason....Let's see now why do people hate : frustration, hurt, anger, embarassement, envy ...oh the list can go on. You know when I was a kid and I came home crying or angry at some other kid and how I felt as though I was being mistreated, my very wise mother would say, "well what did you do to so and so?" Can you think of anything that might have happened to frustrate the Palestines, anything? Just maybe one thing....hmmmm

    • Posted By: sooner1969 @ 01/09/2009 1:47:47 AM

      indynate, that was one of the most astute and well versed responses on here.

  • Posted By: openminded350 @ 01/09/2009 2:13:58 AM

    Mr Miller if you are an advisor to any of our countries government administrations then you should be fired and then re-hired for the Arab nations you promote. The toughness and fairness you reference should be to eradicate the terrorist regimes that only cause damage with no desires for peace only desires to eradicate Israel ... which history clearly shows. May America never be a facilitator of injustice towards any Nation but an alliance to do good and seek jusstice in this World and you Mr. Miller should maybe be writing for some inspirstional Iranian news magazine.

  • Posted By: josh123 @ 01/09/2009 2:11:46 AM

    Why warn Hospitals and schools ..these are civilan areas. THEY ARE REFUGE AREA YOU BONE HEAD. Gaza is 12 miles long..you tell me idiot where are they supposed to hide. THIS THE BEGINING OF END OF ISRAEL...LONG LIVE HAMAS AND HEZBELAHA.THEY ARE TRUE MEN...

  • Posted By: Ethan30 @ 01/09/2009 2:10:52 AM

    Brokering peace with who exactly? There is the Hamas in Gaza, and the Fatach and the Muslim brotherhood and so many other extremist groups.
    They all gain popular support by fighting Israel and that is the only thing that unites them.
    These are the same people who cheered on Sep, 11, and celebrated when saddam hussein claimed he will win in the first Gulf war.

    The Palestinian society is fragmented because before 1967- some of them lived in Jordan and some in Egypt (like their famous leader- Yaaser Arafat who was born and grew up in Egypt and chose a career in terrorism that won him fame...) and some are immigrants from other Arab countries in the region.

    You can negotiate with one group and then another will rise- promising death to Israel and America.

    If you think you can undo the teachings of their religious leaders for Jihad and fighting all the non muslims for the rule of Islam- than good luck and let me know what is your plan.

  • Posted By: kevinjmoore @ 01/09/2009 2:05:47 AM

    You're an idiot josh123...the Israelis even warn the schools and hospitals (where Hamas holes up) before they bomb the building. Israel has gone above and beyond the call of duty.

  • Posted By: kevinjmoore @ 01/09/2009 2:05:05 AM

    You're an idiot josh123...the Israelis even warn the schools and hospitals (where Hamas holes up) before they bomb the building. Israel has gone above and beyond the call of duty.

  • Posted By: josh123 @ 01/09/2009 2:01:42 AM

    True colors of Israel are becoming known to whole world....Can someone tell me what Israel has done to US in the past 60 years, why are they an ally?what has Israel done for humanity?it has been nothing but childern killers ...just like Jewish killed thier own prophets.

  • Posted By: Ethan30 @ 01/09/2009 1:56:02 AM

    Mr. Miller says Israel is "making life unbearable for 1.5 million Gazans by denying aid and economic development?"

    Hamas is the terrorist organization that has chosen to focus on terror and war rather than nation buiolding and economic development to their own people.
    The Gazans chose a group of people who offered them nothing but war with Israel.

    Despite their choice- Israel has provided electricity, water and humanitarian aid on numerous occasions- and more over- they have opened their border and provided medical assistance and treatment for sick Gazan on the expense of the Israeli tax payer.

    Did you ever hear about a country who is letting sick people enter from a country who declared war and provided medical trteatments in their own hospitals - on their own dime- while they are on the recieving eld of rockets fired from the very same country?

    Israel has provided the Gazans electricity for the past 8 years.
    Can you imagine England providing electricity to Germany while Germany is bombing London?

    Israel is the most humane country with the worst neighbors.

    I am pretty sure that I never heard of a country who is allowing the civillians of a country who has declared war recieve medical aid at the expense of the tax payers of the country de

  • Posted By: Fayetaye @ 01/08/2009 2:09:17 PM

    oh poor poor Israel my heart bleeds for you! NOT.

    You are a thief and a bully and I would say you should be ashamed of yourself but I know better cause you have no conscience and no heart. Oh you vile incorrigible Israel. I know you have every country in your back pocket but I hope oneday that you get on Russias bad side.

    • Posted By: lindalouhoo @ 01/09/2009 1:55:31 AM

      My God, Do you have any idea how HATEFUL you sound? Hateful people do not advocate peace, no matter what spews from their mouths/keyboards.

  • Posted By: Emmilly @ 01/09/2009 1:55:23 AM

    the reason obama is a supporter is because Israel and America share similar democratic values, and together they are fighting terrorism- ie hamas, America is morally strong and I believe you have underestimated the intelligence of the average American citizen

  • Posted By: mommyof3 @ 01/09/2009 1:53:12 AM

    I don't know call me nieve, but trying to solve an age old dispute will never be accomplished so what to do? Even if you gather all the fact as to who did what first it still doesn't erase the fact that extreme Muslims hate Jews and anyone who supports their religious ideals and that would be us Americans. Muslims have expressed this openly and proudly all over the world, everyone knows that. Everyone knows that Muslim extremist, that would include Hamas and it's Palestine followers they have used children and their women as martyrs for their cause. Everyone knows that Muslim extremist are not only a handfull of threating individuals but entire cities and large populations which makes them extremely threating. America also can't forget how Muslim extremist cheered in Palestine over the destruction of America not the Jews. Why do Muslim extremist hate us you ask, not because of land but because of Allah. So if anyone thinks that peaceful negotiations or siezed land from Israel is going to solve the problem doesn't really believe in their true intentions even as they announce it publicly. Nothing will ever change that. America needs to realize who their enemies are. It's a matter of trust and who should America trust, the answer is obvious. Yes I sympathize with the innocent lives lost in Palestine, but when will they take resposibility for not protecting their citizens including their children and why should I trust when they say that Israel sensessly committed these crimes, they're not a trust worthy group of people, I am referring to the extremist, before anyone corrects me, not the decent people of Palestine!! And last times I checked Hamas is a Muslim Extremist group, so why should I trust them? Yes, Israel is not perfect but they've never shouted destruction over America or anyone who didn't believe like them. America must and should support them. Other countries supported us after 9/11, why shouldn't we support them? Democracy needs to be protected for the sake of America. For so many people who say to stay out of it is just plain ignorant. Who do you think they'll go after when their done with the Jews (God forbid they ever do), us Americans, get real people.

  • Posted By: josh123 @ 01/09/2009 1:51:11 AM

    Obama will not be any different than other presidents...will be pro-Israel but on surface may show otherwise. If Obama tries to balance act, Israel will not allow him to finish his term

  • Posted By: Barry1000 @ 01/09/2009 12:36:13 AM

    Misinformation abounds and it isn't all unintentional. There are Synegogues in Iran and there are Jewish people in Iran and most Iranian citizens have nothing against Jews. The famous quote by the President iof Iran (who has very limited power and doesn't control the military) was a gross mis-interpretation. These so-called experts and journalists need to get it right or shut the hell up. As far as terrorism goes, war is terrorism with a bigger budget and Israel depends on the American taxpayer to fund their aggressions and terroristic acts.

    • Posted By: sooner1969 @ 01/09/2009 1:50:55 AM

      Barry1000, you sir are the misinformed party in this debate.

    • Posted By: sooner1969 @ 01/09/2009 1:43:07 AM

      Barry1000 you must live on Bizarro world. if you can't see who the true agressor in the middle east is, then you are one of the stupidest people on the planet.

  • Posted By: Ethan30 @ 01/09/2009 1:42:50 AM

    Well, Mr. Miller, why is it a problem for some jewish families to live near Arabs? That is the essence of the "settlements".

    I think killing having suicidal culture built on hate and violence much more disturbing than the settlements.

    Some jewish families approach an Arab and buy some land from him and move in to live their life in a place they consider closer to where their ancestors lived and their historic and culture heritage lay.

    When Israel wanted to withdraw from Gaza the authorities evacuated all the Jewish residents from all their cities, towns and settlement, so what is the problem with some jews living with their families near their historic and religious landmarks?

    If Israel would like to withdraw from more territories - it can be done, so why are the settlements such a problem?

  • Posted By: Ethan30 @ 01/09/2009 1:37:17 AM

    The "settlement activity" is the most racist argument the Palestinians have claimed.

    An Arab sells a house or a property to some people who are jewish.

    In any other country in the world that would not be considered anything special- but since the racism of the Palestinian is beyond words- it is a problem to have jewish neighbors in an Arab neighborhood.

    The Palestinians have chosen again and again to curdur and torture in the most violence ways civillians- just because they are jews- but MR. Miller finds the "settlement activity" a huge problem.
    Had your town been under fire for the past 8 years I wonder how you would react, when a professor would profess that living in a house bought from an Arab the main problem.

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