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  • Posted By: zelone @ 01/08/2009 10:32:09 PM

    Posted By: Zelmaone @ 01/08/09 10:29 PM

    It is an unfortunate fact of the human condition that the innocent and/or defenseless are the ones who suffer when those in control use their power to further their interests, especially when those interests are mired in fanatical beliefs. Add to this a culture where those radicals are eager to self-destruct to be declared highly regarded martyrs. Israelis do not share these emotions. They are like us. They want to live. They cannot trust what they see accross the border which is a terrorist group who have expressed tjheir only aim which is to wipe Israel off the map. That means, of course, to kill all the men, women and children in Israel. They fire rockets into the cities for that purpose.

    Hamas is not going to stop trying to attain their objective no matter what they agree to. They cannot be beleived. The human suffering in Gaza doesn't bother the fanatical militants who place themselves in highly populated areas to use the casualties to garner sympathy from people like you, Mr. Miller. If you were a sitting duck like an Israeli mother with her children in a town within range of the rockets being fired from Gaza,and had to run to a shelter at any hour of the day or night you would'nt take it.

    Israel is only too aware of what it is facing and what it needs to be secure therefore if it can't veto insufficient and misguided negotiations dealing with their life and death issues who can?

  • Posted By: shibz187 @ 01/08/2009 10:14:03 PM

    ok jews stop comminting on this article, go on youtube and look up jewish crimes..stop being one sided you ***..come get tougher with the muslims and see what *** happens mother *** vbvaman.snazi why dont u shut the *** up 2. Both of you go suck mcains dick..no wonder your economy falls because your mentality is wrong..when israel tried to invade lebanon they couldnt get in because hizballah..if america doesnt step in ww3..and trust me people wont be safe at home or abroad..muslims and other fates..if someone came to your hosue and said this is mine get off it...wtf will you do? you throw a rock at him and he shoots a tanka t you. Did u know everyone in israel serves in the army? at least hizballah doesnt call for that conscription..they recruit people who want to fight for their rights, hamas is protecting itself and still is. think of it this way...if israel would shut the *** up and mind its own business then there would be no problems in the world..but no those *** have to provoke everyone and over attack people and try to rule the *** world. At least the muslims arent blinded by this and will fight for there freedom..not sit like little *** doing what israel is saying...they are like the americans in ww2 and russians who didnt stand by and let hitler kill the jews...but this time israel are the germans/nazis? who is going to be the next country to stand up and fight against them?

    • Posted By: Get_A_Grip @ 01/08/2009 10:31:18 PM

      shibz187
      These comments are not from Jews. I for one am an AMERICAN. Not only that I'm a CHRISTIAN. So I suppose your arab bastard hate me too. I know of no other nation that will not retaliate if attacked. You cowards shoot rockets from hehind the civilians you use as your shields. Why are you suprised when some of them are killed.
      If you are so concerned with the civilian casualties, stop putting them in harms way. You are the murderers.

  • Posted By: lcmay @ 01/08/2009 10:28:50 PM

    First the president should be tough with the arab countries that demand the end of Israel first and get them to stop attacking Israel and hiding behind little school kids.

  • Posted By: shibz187 @ 01/08/2009 10:28:32 PM

    justamerican what is a terrorist? people who kill innocent people right? then what would you call israel and america... tell me does a rockets which dents the ground in israel, warrent bombs which destroy buildings in gaza..? how can you sit here and watch this *** and this propoganda...you wonder why no other countries like canada or france or places like these have buildings being attacked by planes or bombs in the subways? why do you think that is? because they dont supoport israels cruel tactics in its plot to take over the world. America is israels puppet, you supply them with there weapons to attack woman and children... now tell me those are threats to israel..a baby shooting a rocket at israel is a threat right? if you threw a rock at someone and they shot you with a gun do you think that is fair. Lets see how tough israel is when there country is attacked with bigger bombs and kill there innocent people....will the attacker not be called a terrorist no more if they have planes which shoot missles?
    i hope the day comes when god will punish every person who doesnt feel for the suffering of the thousands of muslims christians and others who have been killed around the world through israels actions, if someone was bombing my home btw i would do whatever i can to stop it...so dont expect countrys with balls to sit and watch the new nazi israelies test out there new weapons on innocent people...*** america drops the atomic bomb and israel tests there new weapon...hmmmmmmm you see a trend...one day when americas economy crumbles further...so will israels..no wonder the jews want obama so they can rebuild americas economy and stay in power....

  • Posted By: starkeyr @ 01/08/2009 10:26:18 PM

    Isreal's response is common sense. What would the US response be if mexico or canada fired rockets into the populated areas of the US? The US needs to continue support of Israel and not give into global politics of insanity such as Hamas and the nations that support such actions.

  • Posted By: Non Jew non Arab @ 01/08/2009 10:24:27 PM

    It is really a myth that America has "always had exclusive ties to Israel" and every US president has always protected the special relationship with Israel. Israel has been more pro-America than America has been pro-Israel. There are many in America including those in government who would foolishly go the way of Europe and try to undermine the security of Israel for some misguided belief in fairness and so-called national interest. It is actually in America's national interest to pursue and maintain a special relationship with Israel. America has few friends in the world and Israel has consistently shown itself to be one of the most loyal. The so-called allies that America has in Europe and in the Arab world actually are no better than opportunists who are praying fervently for the demise of your dear country so they can gain in influence and power. Trying to appease them by sacrificing Israel is sheer naivety.
    Hamas was placed in power by a majority of the 1.5 million people who live in Gaza and that majority must now see clearly the bitter consequence of their unwise decision. Among other reasons, Hamas was picked to challenge Israel militarily and I find it surprising and even laughable that as soon as the conflict becomes intense and personal they quickly cry foul. If you want to destroy Israel and wipe it off the map, well you must prepare for the possibility that Israel could destroy you and wipe you off the map! Fortunately, the only sane military and political force in the Middle East is Israel and this bloodshed will end sooner than later, sparing many innocent souls. Sure there are people in Gaza who did not vote for Hamas just as there are people in America who did not vote Obama. Israel has shown more consideration to all the people of Gaza than Hamas has shown. Hamas would rather sacrifice them all for its insane ambitions.

  • Posted By: lcmay @ 01/08/2009 10:23:45 PM

    First the president should be tough with the arab countries that demand the end of Israel first and get them to stop attacking Israel and hiding behind little school kids witch is a war crime that can not be ignored.

  • Posted By: starkeyr @ 01/08/2009 10:23:33 PM

    Isreal's defense of their country is common sense. If mexico or canada were to fire rockets into populated areas of the US - what would our reponse be? The US needs to continue support of Israel and not give into the politics of insanity such as hammas.

  • Posted By: ryo1963 @ 01/08/2009 10:23:20 PM

    Aaron Miller - shut up. One, it's not for us to dictate what goes on over there. Two, Irael is constantly being attacked in some way, from gun shots, bombs, rockets to the media. Hamas is the problem. The Palestinian government, if you want to call it a government, won't even try to stop Hamas from instigating every conflict. They don't belong there. Get your people together and give them the boot out of your country already and live in peace. Stop trying to put some kind of wild spin on the situation like Israel needs to grow up and act like a big brother. If I kept poking my brother in the arm long enough, rest assured he would get annoyed and punch me in order to get me to stop. Leave Israel be already. Don't we have enough problems here in our own backyard to contend with? Lets try to solve our own before helping someone else out for a change.

  • Posted By: GLivick @ 01/08/2009 10:22:32 PM

    Hamas........the sooner you cease ALL rocket launching into Israel, the sooner Israel will cease attacks on you!
    Israel has given you land; has granted treaty arrangements; has backed off many other times, yet Hamas has NOT lived up to it's end of the deal.
    Let's face it........Hamas, which is a ally with Iran want the same thing.....the extermination of all Jews! So my response is this: Go Israel, crush the crazy nuts into oblivian! God is with you!

  • Posted By: hdean @ 01/08/2009 10:19:18 PM

    A lot of people try to single out muslims as the bad guys terriost, the truth is killing innocent people is aginist islam, and those people who do, do that deserve to be punished, but not those innocent civilians, who end up paying the price for others. Those people in Gaza who die havent done anything, but still they die, they lose ther husband their wives and children, but its okay to do so because there muslim or because there leader is corrupt, no! People who do say all terriost are muslims, are making sterotypes,because there have been many terriost before 9/11 who were not muslim or arab...People who can kill innocent people for no reason are not muslim. And i believe barak obama can change the situation, because right now we are supporting that it is okay to kill civilians when it is not, and someone doesnt take a stand these issues between these two countries will never be resolved.

  • Posted By: justamerican @ 01/08/2009 10:16:57 PM

    yinka23 said it best, former pres. jimmy carter has it all in hand in his book he is the smartest person that ever lived and could never be wrong and could never write a book all based on his opinion, not him... not a pacifists not a liberal... he's the best we have ever had....NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get real and again face the facts hamas are terrorists and the value of human life to them is less than nothing... Israel is doing what needs to be done.... and in war the innocent die especially when the chicken s__t's hide behind the innocent.... the land was theirs to begin with they got it back and have every right to defend their country and their people... please people do your homework before you talk.....

  • Posted By: suval @ 01/08/2009 10:16:15 PM

    Absolutely change our policy. Standing by Israel when they are over reacting and aggresive is wrong and so is our stupid "Israel right or wrong" Foreign policy. Both sides need to be forced into an honorable settlement. Israel should have no say over Palestine or who comes and who goes there. Reporters should be able to cover Palestine and we need to stop supporting Israel's censorship methods. I think the big question is, WHO WILL RUN THE U.S. UNDER THE NEXT ADMIN,ISRAEL OR OBAMA????

  • Posted By: smithrh @ 01/08/2009 9:02:46 PM

    I totally disagree with this undermining piece of journalism. Israel has long suffered attacks on their own civilians and no one ever hears about anyone going to their aid, but let this small country defend itself and everyone screams injustice. I am so tired of all this political yah yah. I would hate to think that when I defend my household from being attacked that I will be placed on the chopping block as Israel is. American Government I hope to God you have wise people leading you.

    • Posted By: arnie6446 @ 01/08/2009 9:29:03 PM

      Are u kidding? We give Israel around $7B annually. Israel kills many more civilians than Israelis are killed. If someone took your land, put you in a confined area with no way to prosper, what would you do? Israel was created because there needed to be a solution to the mess created by Germany. Unfortunately, the arabs are paying the price.

      • Posted By: PamplonaXIV1 @ 01/08/2009 10:15:17 PM

        arabs who decided to allow Hamas to take power are paying the price that is. If Hamas and palestinians had no malice towards Israel, and werent shooting and cursing at them incessantly, Palestine would be a wonderful place and enjoy all the properties Israel does

  • Posted By: justamerican @ 01/08/2009 9:49:44 PM

    First off the thought of getting tough with them both is a good thing if we had any right to do so... look back on American History (U.K.,France,Mexico) we took this country by way of WAR just like Israel has if the mexicans said to us they wanted Texas and Califorina back and we told them NO... (Duh.....) so they started launch rockets and send terrorist and KILL Americans what do you think we would do, we would retaliate as we have done in the past... When will you pacifist dummies realize that is there country and when they are attacked they have the same RIGHT as every other country in the world... The Arabs have been fighting with Israel for as long as recorded history, what makes anyone think they are so good they can solve and fix the problem that has been there forever... Greater men have tried and none have got it done so just leave it alone and stay out of it.... and as far as the bush bashers GET A LIFE!!! the economy is in the shape because of the oil co. and the laws for housing set up by Bill Clinton do your home work before you open your mouth... thank you all and have a nice day ;)

    • Posted By: arnie6446 @ 01/08/2009 10:12:43 PM

      Big difference - The US gives Americans of Mexican decent the same rights as all citizens. Israel does not claim the West Bank or Gaza as part of its country. It remains an occupier and creates "settlements". To declare the land as part of their country would mean that all would need to be given some rights.....or face the accusations of apartheid.

  • Posted By: Get_A_Grip @ 01/08/2009 10:05:06 PM

    ARE YOU INSANE? The Israel - Arab issue is a sibling rivalry thousands of years old (so what if daddy liked Isaac more than Ishmael....GET OVER IT). You're an idiot if you think Obama can change that.

    Israel has done nothing but defend themselves and the land given to them by God himself. I WISH I COULD SAY THE SAME FOR YOU BED WETTING LIBERALS! Not one of you has the guts to do anything more than whine about everything and blame someone else. This country could take a few lessons in patriotism from Israel. Israel cannot be expected to tolerate anything and everything done to them by these terrorists simply because they are a Jewish state. I believe that's what you liberals call "hate crime" here in the good ole USA.

  • Posted By: MisterDee @ 01/08/2009 10:01:50 PM

    I am in full agreement with dodge258 we should let Iseral deal with terrotist as they see fit just as we feel we have the right to deal with those who atacked us on 9/11 anyone who may or maynot support them. All the highjackers were Arabs.

  • Posted By: Snazi @ 01/08/2009 9:57:42 PM

    See what Muslims dont want you to see!http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816

  • Posted By: vbvaman @ 01/08/2009 9:57:10 PM

    Obviously, the writer of this article is very naive. We had better get much tougher with the militant muslims in our own country and abroad. We should get squarely behind Israel and further tell Saudi Arabia that if they raise the price of oil by cutting back production on us for backing Israel, then we should attack them. Militant islam cannot be tolerated, nor be catered to in any fashion.

  • Posted By: opeseila @ 01/08/2009 9:56:49 PM

    This is a well thought out article. The truth is sometimes really bitter but it needs to be told. In the Middle East there are no saints. There is more than enough blame to go round but this is the time to look forward and work for peace. Palestinians must accept the fact that Israel is in the Middle East and is going nowhere. Israelis must also accept the fact that they cannot occupy a people's land, deny their nationality and expect that that they will meekly accept that situation. Peace demands that both sides make painful concessions. The current situation imposes painful realities and a points to a bleak future, for both sides. The US needs to be more even handed, as befits an honest peacemaker, in order to bring peace to the Middle East.

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