If Obama Is Serious

How do you "negotiate" with people who dont recognize your right to exist? Nor do they WANT to recognize your right to exist. They are fueled by pure hatred. And LONG before Israel moved back home. Forget being P.C. and lets state the OBVIOUS! Theyre dealing with TERRORISTS! Gazans are dealing with their own decision.Despite Israels faults its still more diplomatic in dealing with this problem then the US, UK or EU would.

Mr Miller you are an amasing man, you appear to be intelligent, have a comprehensive knowledge of the situation.
Please tell me, what, should the United Staes do, in the event, that Isreal moves back from all of the annexed land and the Arabs continue to assault them?
I can, only, hope, that, you have an opinion, on that, too.
Unlike our own government who, has come to consider the lives of their citizens, expendable, in their quest, to be the "guys wearing the white hats" the Israeli's are unconcerned about the "white hat:", if you attack their citizens, they retaliate.
Much talk, about the nuclear capabilities of the Iran, not to worry, Iran, has absolutely, no doubt about what, will happen to Iran, should they use Nuclear weapons, againts Israel.. There will be a vast radioactive hole, where Iran, was.
Iran has, no doubt, at all, about that.
I would suggest, respectfully, that your vast capabilities, would be more gainfully, empoyed as a lobbyist, for the Arab countries.

It's about time. Two wrongs have and never will make one right. In this case when "our national security" is at large it's no joke.

Another handwringing analysis by another self hating Jew. look around, Miller; there is less criticism of Israel in this conflict than ever before, and that is because slowly but surely the world is beginning to realize who the culprits are. Do I care overly about how much the 1.5 million Gazans are suffering? No,because they voted in a known terrorist organization, and that was their chocie. These are the consequences that go with that choice. Now piss off.

epryor : Your facts are in error. Israel never claimed tha Hamas was "holed up" in the school. In fact the military reported gunfire from the biuldings proximity.

Perhaps your commentary woud be better served towards Hamas inviting them to avoid areas of innocence ( Schools. Hospitals, Mosques, etc) this way they could show respect for their countrymens lives and maintain dignity in their quest for change.

This is a military action agaianst terrorism which has been repearedly waged against a nation ogf peace loving people. Just like most Palestunians. The real tragedy here is the loss of life due to the actions of radical extremists who intimidate not only their enemies, but also their own people.

Finally...someone who gets it.

Wednesday, Jan. 07, 2009
UN: No Hamas Fighters in Bombed Gaza School
By TIM MCGIRK

United Nations investigators say they have uncovered no evidence to support a claim by the Israeli military that Hamas fighters were holed up in a Gaza school, prompting a deadly attack by Israeli forces that killed 40 civilians, many of them children.

The Israel Defense Forces Spokesman's Office asserted that militants fired mortars from inside the school at troops involved in Israel's controversial incursion into the Gaza Strip in pursuit of Hamas fighters ??? a military operation that is drawing fierce international condemnation as civilian casualties mount. "The IDF returned fire," according to the spokesman's office. (See pictures of Israeli soldiers sweeping into Gaza.)

But after a preliminary investigation of the Jan. 6 attack at the Fakhura girl's elementary school, "we're 99.9% sure that no militants were at the school," says Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). The agency questioned survivors, including UNRWA staff that run the school under U.N. auspices.

Before the school was hit by Israeli bombs, some 400 Palestinians fleeing shelling of the Jabalya refugee camp had taken shelter inside Fakhura, hoping that the U.N. flag would shield them from harm, according to survivors. Earlier, the U.N., which oversees relief efforts for more than 800,000 Palestinians in Gaza, had passed along the coordinates of all its schools and buildings to the Israeli military so that its humanitarian missions would be spared attack.

Some reports say that Israel struck the school with artillery shells, while others say with mortars. Thirty Palestinians were killed outright from the incoming fire, and 10 others died last night in Gaza's overburdened and badly provisioned hospitals, according to the U.N. More than 55 were injured. Israeli bombs also hit a second school on Tuesday, say Gaza residents, killing three civilians.

Some Jabalya refugees at the school said they saw a small group of militants firing mortars near the school and running away, the Associated Press reported. A Gaza resident contacted by TIME said there is a citrus grove not far from the school. "Most likely, the militants fired from there," said the resident, who requested anonymity.

But Israeli military officials insist that the mortars were fired from within the crowded schoolyard and that Hamas is using civilians as human shields. The IDF gave the names of two Hamas combatants it says were killed inside the school ??? Imad and Hassan Abu Askar ??? who allegedly fired the mortars. But the IDF did not explain how it was able to identify them among the many casualties. Troops did not visit the school after the attack, nor did the IDF have access to a casualty list from Gaza's hospitals. (See pictures of Israel's deadly assault on Gaza.)

Thank you Mr. Miller - This is the kind of argument we should be hearing from anyone who is seriously concerned about Mid-East peace - 60 years is a very long time for a people to continue to suffer while Israel enjoys peace, prosperity and security - America has never been a fair peace broker and over the years we have seen the results of that unfairness in the form of the struggles waged by Palestinians and their supporters for freedom and justice - In October, 1996 former Israeli Premier Shimon Peres had this to say "When you negptiate, don't win too much. What one considers a great win may eventually end up as a great deceit. So, don't win more than necessary or it will come back to undermine what is essential" - It is 12 years ago since these words of wisdom were spoken - I would like Barack Obama to hear these words of wisdom and ask Israel why it has continued to build settlements, make Palestinians suffer and undermine the peace process - America is not the only one to blame for this state of affairs, some of the Arab countries, especially Saudi Arabia and Egypr, must share the blame for their complicity - I think Barack Obama may succeed where everyone else and all else has failed

Get tough with Isreal?

Get serious. Habbas VIOLATED the cease fire aggreement.. Further, Israel warned Gaza about impending retaliation secondary to habbas violations of cease fire.

WORD OF NOTE TO MEDIA: Wake up and decline biased judgements.

to the question will there be peace in the middle east? yes there will be but I don't want to be around after it happens

If you just want to think about it logically, how long would America put up with Mexico if they were sending missiles into civilian areas of California and Texas everyday? The US would act quickly and decisively to eliminate the problem. Moreover, Israel has put up with more attacks from Hamas than any other country would permit from an enemy.

The most invalid argument in this whole conflict is that peace could be attained by Israel and the Palestinians by giving them a Palestinian nation. When Israel was originally formed, this plan was offered and the Palestinians refused it, and Israel formed a nation. When the Israelis tried to establish peace by giving up the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, it did not bring peace. In fact, their enemies simply moved in closer and continued their attacks.

When you have an enemy that hates Israel and the Jewish people, they will not ever be able to make peace. Any other country in the world would take action to defend itself. When you have radical groups being funded by President Ahmadinejad of Iran who has on numerous occasions voiced his desire to obliterate Israel, a peaceable solution will not be attained.

well... I cant see gaza from Tel-aviv... but Im close enough porridge. And ask me if hezbollah showed mercy to my cousins when they tore Beirut apart in the 1970's

The best part is, because the US is a Democracy; they'll never do anything about it - it takes too long. They'll whine and whine, send condelleza Rice over a few times to whine in person... Then Israel will finish rupturing Hamas and get justice