Get real Aaron David Miller, or are you a member of Hamas?
Get real Aaron David Miller, or are you a member of Hamas?
This article seems to leave out one small detail.,thats the fact that the Arabs dont want peace.As long as the Islamic religion turns a blind eye to the senseless carnage done in the name of Allah, there will be no peace. As long as We refuse to speak out, and continue to make excuses for their acts of murder. there will be no peace.When i say excuses Israel is just one of them.We seem to forget the terror of the past and try to believe that if We give these savages what they want We will have peace,We seem to forget that when these people arent killing Jews or Gentiles their killing each other and proudly proclaim it as their gods will.
The real problem is that Israel is an apartheid state. Think about it: Israel is determined to maintain ultimate control over the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza through military occupation, illegal settlements and border walls). At the same time, Israel is determined not to allow the residents of these areas to vote in Israeli elections, simply because they're overwhelmingly non-Jewish. How is this not apartheid? You cannot possibly tell me that, if the residents of these areas were overwhelmingly Jewish, Israel wouldn't have fully incorporated these areas into itself back in 1967. But the residents are the wrong race, so they're kept in a permanent Bantustan-like state. And America not only supports Israel at it, we do so to such a fanatical degree that virtually no candidate who questions Israel can win an election here, and virtually no public dissent from the "Israel-is-the-good-guy" line is heard. I don't like Hamas at all, but they're not the root of the problem. Israel is. And, until Israel is willing to either grant full independence to the occupied territories (with right of return for Palestinian refugees) or fully incorporate them into itself, nothing will ever, ever change.
I laud Aaron David Miller for taking such a principled, courageous stance, and speaking truth to justice. His admonition to the incoming President demonstrates a radical but practical evolution in his own thinking, based upon his first-hand, up-close engagement and experience as a U.S. Middle East advisor and negotiator. He obviously has come to realize, understand and accept that there is only one way the United States can possibly mediate an enduring Middle East peace, and broker a settlement of the protracted, horrific Israeli-Palestinian 60-year conflict: formulate, drive and secure broad-based international support for a GENUINELY equitable solution requiring meaningful (and yes painful) compromises from both sides. The United States has to cease claiming to be even-handed, and actually start acting even-handedly. That's all Dr. Miller is arguing. If the United States insists on applying a double-standard in its relations, dealings and negotiatons with the Israelis and Palestinians, it has no right to continue in its role as lead mediator.
The definition of stupidity is to make the same mistakes over and over (involving the same advisors and negotiators pursuing the same failed policies, strategies and tactics), and expect a successful outcome the next time. President-elect Obama, the time is now to change course. Give us the promised ???change that we can believe in.??? The whole world will be watching. You will be judged not on what you say, however eloquent, but what you actually do and accomplish!
Why is the US brokering the peace deals? Why cant it be Japan or New Zealand or Argentina?? Let it be someone who does not have interests in the region - or give the UN the full support and functions it needs to enforce the laws and put this world on a peaceful path. Americans dont want to be the police of the world. And im sure the arabs and israelis dont want them there either....unless there's weapons or cash involved.
Isreal cannot be compared to Nazism. If they were anyting like the Nazi.....they would have totally taken over and have complete and final victory in 1967....remember the 6 day war.....please explain how they defeated the combined Arab country. Infantry vs tanks........logically the Arabs should have won, but we know what happen. Maybe Isreal should finished a war that the Arabs started.
With reference to the writer, Aaron David Miller, you have failed to show equal judgement to this case. Although I agree that Israel should be recognised as a country with borders and has equal rights to defend itself like other nations, I more so disagree to calling this a "defense" only. Hamas was wrong for their arrogance, but Israel is just as mischievous for its rash decisions (besides, their attack was of first). I guess all you had to say about the Gaza CHRISIS was that it is "a case in point", a facinating research perhaps? If Obama really wants to be serious about this, he'll judge this case by himself because a "friend that drags you into a mess is not a friend" (i'm insinuating that "commitment to security" and "national interest" are no the only considerates to this case, there is more - perhaps that Israel made mistakes too?). "Transgressions of the Palestinans", I think you need to recategorise everything in your knowledge because Palestinians are from Palestine, and terorists are world wide criminals (hint: NOT NECESSARILY ARAB OR PALESTINIAN), so we should pick our words carefully before we limit our imagination for violent, terroristic and incitemental requirers, and maybe we should remember that Israel actually has extremists too? I'm sorry but if i write any more i'd be making my own report about you, and there are too many flaws in your report, even some that I did not mention because i'm assuming that you might figure them out.
Your article is written with the serious misconception that the Untide States can create peace in the Middle East. A good study of thousands of years of history will show you that is not likely. The Palestinians do not want "peace" with Israel, they want them gone. Attacking mosques and homes where weapons are being stored is not wrong. And please don't be nieve enought to think that a genocide against Israel is not already occuring. As if the few missles launched at Israel are the first and only issue. The big picture is the Haamas will not rest until the Jews are dead or gone and they would prefer the first solution. Their actions make that pretty clear.
When your big brother has the big stick, iy is very easy to excuse oppression in the name of security. But it is morally
inexcusable. Isreal must take the road to peace seriously and stop the provocative actions that it deems as Her perogative.. Peace cannot be achieved by provocking enemies to respond.
Gee Nadia8888 what would you do if someone fired missles at Texas?? Would you go after them??? As a fellow Texan please educate yourself about the situation before making Texas look like we are uneducated!
Well, my esteemed fellow Texan,...my education on the matter stems from this,...My parents are immigrants from Ramallah and Jerusalem's Old City, my parents were forced to leave the home that my grandfather built with his own hands, my mother tells me stories of her as a child hiding under tables listening to the whistling of far away bombs fearing where they may fall. I have many relatives still living there and own some property in Ramallah. When I visit Ramallah I am stopped in the streets by fully armed Israeli soldiers, asking for my credentials,..thank God I have an American passport. I represent MANY of my fellow Christian Palestinians living in Texas, and THAT is my education on the topic,...and yours?????
As an advocate for the Voice Of The Martyr, I am asked by that worthy organization many times to submit names of those Palistinaian Christians living w/the Muslims-and being harrassed by the Hamas, because they dared to abandon ALLAH for the Christian way of life. It is certainly an unnecessary inconvenience to be stopped by fully armed Israelian soldiers, but your chances of survival are much better thatn being stopped by a member of Hamas when they find out you are a Christian.
Although you may be right about violence perpetrated against Christian Palestians by extremist Muslims I have to explain this. Within certain Palestinian cities there are areas that are known to be "Christian" areas. As Arabs we can usually determine one's religion based on a surname. Ramallah's Christian and Muslim Palestinians live peacefully together,...I seriously doubt that an Arab soldier from the region would stop me at all and ask for "my papers". The Israelis in Palestine use a racial profiling of sorts to harass Arabs in the area. Having darker skin and hair always gets me stopped, but not my fair complected mother with more Israeli/Western features. The surprise on the faces of the Israeli soldeirs when they see my blue American passport being offered for their review always made me wonder,....did they plan on harassing me more??
I think this would be the best way to explain the conflict in a way people from the US would understand:
Suppose Venezuela decides that California is really part of Latin America. Instead of declaring war, Venezuela arms Mexican Indians who feel that their land was unlawfuly seized. These Mexican Indians lob 1000's of rockets into Texas.
President Clinton, wanting to stop the Rocket attacks, gives these Indians a chunk of New Mexico. The US promtly pull all Americans out of the area. Mexico creates a wall between itself and New Mexico so these Indians cannot cross back into Mexico. Venezuela continues to arm the Indians and the Indians travel into California and try to destabilize the local government. California then builds a wall to prevent incursion. Rockets are now being lobbed into California on a daily basis. The Indians say they will only stop the attacks if the US lowers the wall between New Mexico and California. Never saying the wall between the New Mexico and Mexico needs to come down.
President Bush, the incoming President, becomes tired of all the strife, invades New Mexico to clean out the trouble makers. The trouble makers are lobbing rockets from Civilian Stuctures which are densly populated. When the surgical strikes come, the trouble makers die; however because the trouble makers are located in the densly populated areas, women and children die. The media of course crusifies George Bush for being to heavy handed.
Final there is an online article from someone from the Woodrow Wilson Center. In this article the author says we need to be stricter with George Bush if there is to be peace with Indians.
BTW ... Just so everyone is clear the term Palestian is a ROMAN word used to discribe the Jewish People after the Roman crushed the Jewish Revolt in 135CE. It is origins are from Philistines. The name Rome chose to rename the people after the revolt.
Get tough with Israel??? What do you think our reaction would be if terrorists were launching rockets from Mexico into Texas and the Mexican government either failed or refused to do anything about it. Our troops would be across the border within hours making sure that Americans were safe from Terrorist attacks. Israel is under constant threat of terror attacks, and it has as much right to defend itself as any other nation. It is unfortunate that Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields, but it does not change the fact that Israel has an absolute right to defend itself and its people. Shame on the author for suggesting Obama should "get tough" with Israel. We should mind our own business and let the Israeli's defend themselves.
In the last week or two there was a UN Resolution condeming Isreal" role in this conflict, but no word about Hamas. Where is the equity in that? Isreal already has a stacked deal against them by U.N. The U.S.A. is the only weight to add to balance out the Isreali side to come soemwhere close to balancing out the scale. How much more should the Isrealis be expected to bear. They have already given up a great deal of land first given to them, then won back by them, and then forced to give up again to let the enemy in the back door. And that still isn't enough. The USA must kowtow to the demands of the radical Musleums. Just a tiny piece of the desert, that they worked hard to improve and now everybody wants it? Sounds a little like the "Little Red Hen" story to me. Denis
We need to be more balanced in our approach and stop backing Israel ALL THE TIME. Its not in our interests to always back Israel no matter what. We need to focus on what is in the interests of the US, not on what is in the interests of Israel.
Someday when the people who are to ignorant to think for themselves find out and acknowledge that the Bible is a Book of Jewish fairy Tales ,copyrighted from previous civilizations thousands of years older, the Jews will have nothing to hide behind as they do their Greedy ventures.
Wake up, America ! Israel is fighting the same evil that we are fighting in Iraq and Afsghanistan! If we have any backbone and proper values in this country, we will support Israel against a mindset and mentality the goal of which is to rid the world of not only Israel, but the U.S. and anyone/thing that does not embrace the jihadist militant belief system.. It is mindboggling how the U.S. of today has such a propensity to call evil that which is good, and to call good that which is evil. I pray the eyes of every American will be opened to see clearly.
Sadly, we aren't fighting the evil anymore. We are told we should be outraged by the activities of our armed forces, we are told we should be grovelling in filth and beating ourselves with whips in shame for the horrible way we have treated the people in the countries supporting the freedomfighters (not TERRORISTS, that's a politically incorrect term). Too many people have bought into the idea that we can TALK our way out of any situation, they believe that if we will just give a little of what others want, we will be loved universally. It is all a lie that they tell themselves to hide from harsh reality, just so long as they don't suffer the consequences. It is for the continuation of these beliefs that the media and many in our country push so vehemently for Israel to be stopped, because for every stance Israel takes against evil and cowardice, our own cowardice, our own lies are shown for what they really are.
What planet are you on,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! israel is just defending itself from lets say about 4,000 missiles that have been fired there way, give me a break with this proaganda stuff, i'm gonna throw up! both sides are to blame and you somehow defend the terroists who use kids for human sheilds. get your facts on or go back to journalism 101, or you were sick that day
ISRAEL ZION-NAZI???S
BOMBING GAZA CHILDREN & CIVILIANS WITH F-16???s & CLUSTER BOMBS, DEPLETED URANIUM AND WHITE PHOSPHORUS
???Israel has planned this Gaza invasion 8-9Months??? - head of the Knesset Defense Readiness and Fighting Terrorism Committee
Israel is also using psychological warfare- calling Palestinian citizens all times of the day and night with urgent messages to Palestian people that Hamas has abandoned them and to give up, their homes will be bombed and dropping millions of flyers, inviting Palestinians to call or email the Israeli army to collaborate with them.
Israel trying to blackmail desperately sick by withholding access to medical care unless they collaborate.
Israel bombing children & civilians and wiping out entire families with F???16???s, cluster bombs and using DEPLETED URANIUM & WHITE PHOSPHORUS.
JEWS are killing and murderers like the new NAZI???S with sick attacks on Palestinians and Gaza under the guise of ???retaliating??? against launched rockets. The Jews are always complaining and squawking about how they were treated in the Holocaust and they themselves are the same ZION-NAZI???S.
ISRAEL ZION-NAZI???S
BOMBING GAZA CHILDREN & CIVILIANS WITH F-16???s & CLUSTER BOMBS, DEPLETED URANIUM AND WHITE PHOSPHORUS
???Israel has planned this Gaza invasion 8-9Months??? - head of the Knesset Defense Readiness and Fighting Terrorism Committee
Israel is also using psychological warfare- calling Palestinian citizens all times of the day and night with urgent messages to Palestian people that Hamas has abandoned them and to give up, their homes will be bombed and dropping millions of flyers, inviting Palestinians to call or email the Israeli army to collaborate with them.
Israel trying to blackmail desperately sick by withholding access to medical care unless they collaborate.
Israel bombing children & civilians and wiping out entire families with F???16???s, cluster bombs and using DEPLETED URANIUM & WHITE PHOSPHORUS.
JEWS are killing and murderers like the new NAZI???S with sick attacks on Palestinians and Gaza under the guise of ???retaliating??? against launched rockets. The Jews are always complaining and squawking about how they were treated in the Holocaust and they themselves are the same ZION-NAZI???S.
The main fact that is not present in the author's thinking is the main reason America has been blessed in so many ways. We cannot take away from Israel what has been promised by a higher authority without risking the loss of these blessings. The past three presidents, in their zeal to leave a legacy, have pressured Israel to give away their birthright in the form of land for peace deals. These have not worked. Are we to be a latter day Niniva or will we go the way of all of the other past "great civilizations?" If one were to engage in critical thinking it would seem a little history of Islamic (Palistinian) claims to Holy Land (only hundreds of years) and Israel's which date thousands of years should be taken into consideration. Hamas is in control of Gaza. Those who voted Hamas into control have the responsibility that follows with their vote. When will they learn that the hate and violence against Israel that is fostered by Islamic extremist in their own mosques will provoke a response from Israel to protect their own citizens. The only nation in the world that has demonstrated commitment to Israels right of continued existence is the United States of America. All other nations have the on again/off again attitude that seems to mirror there own national agenda.
You have hit the nail on the head. People of the U.S. should turn to the Bible and see what God has to say about supporting and not supporting Israel.
I am not sure what are you all are talking about let me ask you all have you every lived under occupation?? I don't think so.. Occupation is the worst think since the NAZI and the Holocaust!!!!!!! Israel was created on a land that the Jews came and stole when they came in from Europe they killed many many Arab all over Palestine... look for DAIR Yasin , Haifa and other cites.
Now It is true that Israel left Gaza but they still controll all boarder crossing the Gazans don???t have any freedom of moving and that is the basic human rights.. Also you are saying that the Gazanse elected Hamas I like to correct you one more time that not only the Gazanse who elected hamas it is also all of the west bank!!!! so you are punching the Palestinians for having the most fair and square elations in the middle east ?? Hamas was democratically elected that is want you all and the whole world wanted I mean look at Israel BS first Israel said it was that the Palestinians has to say and agree that Israel has the right to excite so they did but Israel continued to build settlements then Israel said that Arafat is the problem in creating the Palestinian sate if you get rid of him we will do peace and create the new sate so Arafat appointed Abu Mazen ( Mahmood Abbas) then Israel and the US. said that in order to establish the new Palestinian state you must do an election once you do fair election and prove that you all can be civil and democratic we will give you sate hood in the mean while Israel continued building settlement.
The Palestinian elected Hamas and now Levni said that Hamas is the problem the the creation of the Palestinian sate I am just 100 % Isarel dose not want peace they are just buying time so the Palestinian to have civil war then you all will say you see you all are not mature enough to have a state you Israel is setting up the Palestinian for failure so to go back on what you said that it was the gazans fault for electing hamas that means the Palestinian has the right to shoot rocked at Israel because they elected Sharon and other bold socking Israelis leaders.. So in a nut shell Israel DON???T WANT PEACE AT ALL.
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