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  • Posted By: DUMPLIN @ 01/08/2009 11:30:28 AM

    ISRAEL HAS EVERY REASON TO WORRY. WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE ABSOLUTE END FOR ISRAEL. OBAMA WILL ALL BUT ELIMINATE MILITARY SPENDING IF HE CAN AND LEAVE OUR FRIENDS SUCH AS ISRAEL DANGLING. OBAMA RECEIVED DONATIONS FROM ARAB COUNTRIES AND HE WILL HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK IN SOME WAY. THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK THAT ISRAEL IS THE AGGRESSOR HERE HAVE FALLEN FOR THE LIBERAL MEDIA AND THEIR SPINNING THE NEWS SO AS TO MAKE ISRAEL SEEM THAT WAY. YOU HEAR PLENTY ABOUT HOW PALESTINIANS ARE DYING AND LIVING IN FEAR. HOW ABOUT ISRAELIS AND HAVING TO LIVE SURROUNDED BY COUNTRIES THAT VOW THE DESTRUCTION OF THE JEWISH STATE? OBAMA IS NO MIRACLE WORKER, HE WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON BRINGING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST. HIS POLICIES WILL ONLY EMBOLDEN THE TERRORISTS AND MORE ISRAELIS WILL DIE.

  • Posted By: AC79 @ 01/08/2009 11:28:30 AM

    The support for Isreal has to stop, over the 60 years we been giving them too much and getting nothing in response. They kill our navy officers, kill US student who protesting against resettlements of Palestinians and everything is kept under DL. We have give them so much financial aid and none of it has to be justify where it goes, which most of it goes to military and bombing civilians and using gestapo tactics to drag palestinians from their homes. If Iran would get the nukes maybe that would help becaus that would restrain Isreal. As Jews are greedy people and they will always want more land. People may call Palestinians terrorist, but citiziens of Europe in WWII use similar tactics against Germans. Its hard for them to fight against military that is supply by US might. I love US to death but Im deeply ashamed that we support Isreal so much, it has to STOP and rest of the world will see us different. I just hope America will wake up one day and hopefuly with this President it will.

  • Posted By: GOP Pugs @ 01/08/2009 10:58:14 AM

    The history of Israel we will never hear about on TV

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbFyN0LX5Cg&feature=email

  • Posted By: blackbelt54 @ 01/08/2009 11:27:40 AM

    Right globalcritic that would explain all the "moderate" Palestinians dancing in the streets and passing out candy to celebrate 9-11. When ACTUAL Palestinians are asked 70 to 80 percent approve of the destruction of Israel and CELEBRATE their own children becoming human bombs. As a society the "Palestinians" are functionally insane. And people on sites like this are either anti-Semitic, ignorant or both.

  • Posted By: RFrederick @ 01/08/2009 11:26:36 AM

    Miller..... Why is the mainstream press hounding Israel when all they are doing is defending themselves, just like the US would do if say Mexico was launching rockets across its borders into the US. Why don't you mention that Hamas is a TERRORIST Organization who wants nothing more then to eliminate all Jews and Israel off the map. Palestinians or Arabs as there has never been a country called Palestine. Palestine was a name given by a Roman General who wanted to wipe Israel off of the map, so he put the word Palestine on the map. That's where it came from. Israel has the right to defend itself, as we do, against terrorists. They have had enough given enough land to terrorists, land which is rightfully Israel', in order to broker a peace. When Israel gave a little, the Arab terrorist want more. AGAIN. Israel keep standing up to Terrorist. This is one Gentile who is proud to call Israel a friend in the Middle East..

  • Posted By: myzoo @ 01/08/2009 11:25:34 AM

    AC79, you have no clue to whats going on over there.And if Iran gets nukes they will use them against us.

  • Posted By: FedUpWithBias @ 01/08/2009 11:24:41 AM

    If there really was "toughness and fairness" the US and every other country would back Israel up 100% and demand it use more force to protect itself. For civilians to be attacked the way they are and constantly live under terror is unacceptable. If Hamas were doing to the US what it has done to Israel, and Philadelphia and New York and L.A. were being bombed, I guarantee you that the US would have long ago bombed the entire Gaza strip until not one single rocket would be launched onto US soil. Why is it so hard for some people to understand that it is unacceptable to demand that Israel make MORE concessions. Isn't it about time that the Palestinians make some move towards peace (and not just talk)? Although it is convenient for the US to keep demanding more and more from Israel, it is due time that the US back Israel more!

  • Posted By: sawdustking @ 01/08/2009 10:43:07 AM

    maham, the Israelis gave Gazans their country and they responded by electing into office a regime that is dedicated to wiping Israel off the map and with the help of Iran, has fired 3000 random missiles into Israel over the past year.

    And Mr, Miller, I find your article vague and inaccurate. "But the days of America's exclusive ties to Israel may be coming to an end." - Here I thought all this we had embassies in Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc. And all you have to do is go to Wikipedia to see photos of George Bush or Condoleezza Rice meeting with Mahmoud Abbas. What the hell do you mean "exclusive ties with Israel?"

    "The departure point for a viable peace deal???either with Syria or the Palestinians???must not be based purely on what the political traffic in Israel will bear, but on the requirements of all sides." The requirements of Hamas include the extermination of Israel. Pleasing all parties is not possible and thinking otherwise is naive.

    "...if Israeli behavior crosses the line...The Gaza crisis is a case in point. Israel has every reason to defend itself against Hamas. But does it make sense for America to support its policy of punishing Hamas by making life unbearable for 1.5 million Gazans by denying aid and economic development?" What exactly is the appropriate response for 3000 random missiles aimed at your civilian population? What if it was Cuba firing those missiles into Florida or Puerto Rico? What would be an appropriate response then? Did America have the right to make the lives of 70 million Germans unbearable in 1944? Gazans freely elected Hamas into power when the had the chance for free and peaceful self determination and chose war over peace.

    "But for the past 16 years, the United States has allowed that special bond to become exclusive in ways that undermine America's, and Israel's, national interests." Please elaborate.

    "Then there's the settlements issue." Haven't you seen the videos of Israelis being forcibly removed from their settlements?

    "Coordinating with Israel on matters relating to its security is one thing. Giving Israel a veto over American negotiating tactics and positions, particularly when it comes to bridging gaps between the two sides, is quite another." Why wouldn't Israel have veto power, it's their citizens running for the bomb shelters not ours?

    The only hope for peace is for either Hamas to be utterly destroyed or for the Gazan people to finally realize that the Hamas path is the path to ruin. Israel has gone so far as to call residents of targets and tell them to get out before bombing them. I believe that is entirely unprecedented in the history of warfare. Hamas fires rockets from populated areas in hopes that the Israeli response will kill the innocent. When Gazans come to grips with these facts, then they will be ready for peace.

    • Posted By: maham @ 01/08/2009 11:24:07 AM

      what Israelis gave to Palestinians isn't theirs in the first place! Jews had never had a country of their own and Judaism doesn't believe in owning one, just see the demonstrations jews held in several countries agains the state of Israel and the terror it practices on Palestinians in Gaza, west bank, and in Israel itself.
      Britain gave what it doesn't own in 1917 by mr. Belfour to the zionists at the expense of the indigenous people who lived there for thousands of years, had their culture, traditions, and everything, and even this is stolen by Israel.
      If you insist on taking sides, at least respect Palestinians and look at them as humans in the first place.

  • Posted By: gelliott5949@yahoo.com @ 01/08/2009 11:23:46 AM

    Having Barack Obama for president is like inviting the wolves to dinner at the chicken coop! With his former Muslim ties-he will most certainly be biased in his decisions. God help this nation!

  • Posted By: bubnug @ 01/08/2009 11:23:42 AM

    Can you ignoramuses please stop calling Barack Muslim?? why?? because his name is Barack??? that is a HEBREW name!

  • Posted By: TheBigDurian @ 01/08/2009 11:22:32 AM

    All these ???If Canadadian terrorists were firing rockets into New York??? type arguments are a load of crap. You can???t spend decades systematicaly breaking down the social infrestructure of a peoples, as Isreal has done in Gaza, and then expect them to be able to do something as simple as police themselves. What Isreal is doing in Gaza is not self defence, it???s collective punishment. You don???t kill that many civilians exersizing self defence. Do the Isrealis actually believe that this action will ???punk??? the the Paliatinians in Gaza into not firing rockets at them?

  • Posted By: Fayetaye @ 01/08/2009 11:22:20 AM

    You all speak like you have actually lived a day in Palestine. You have no clue what it is like to be oppressed. To be told where you can or can't go, or what time you should be in. Be stopped at checkpoints all the time. especially when you are trying to rush your gravely sick and dying ones to hospital . Have guns pointed in your face or that of your kids. Have your home bulldozed so that a new house can be built for a jewish settler. Wait for death cause you have not eaten or drank water in days and the propects of getting food or drink are zero cause your oppressors want you to starve and have restricted your access to those essentials.. All of you may think the sun shines out of Israels ass but I think that they are worse than Hitler. I have seen what Israeli soldiers do to little kids and trust me they relish in the moment when they blow some little kids brains out. Reality Check, get the facts you are very clueless. It is not so cut and dry as them firing rockets into Israel, it is about their lands being taken to give the jewish settlers homes. Why should they just sit back and do nothing at all. Would you?

  • Posted By: blackbelt54 @ 01/08/2009 11:22:09 AM

    As always people like Miller ignore the stark reality that Arabs do NOT want to co-exist with Israel. You can't "bridge a gap" when one side blows the damn bridge up every time you try to build it. This is not nearly as complicated as pointy-heads such as Miller make it out. And D_Man6 there have been Jews in the Middle East for about 3,200 years, give or take. The word "Palestine" is the newcomer to the lexicon. Palestine is a manufactured state created solely to use as a club against Israel. There were NO Muslims anywhere until the 7TH CENTURY, so they got to the dance about 2,000 years late. And your analogy of Israel "raping" is as ignorant as it is insulting. Why would people like you make such comments when it's obvious your only knowledge of the situation comes from AP? Just because you CAN say stupid things doesn't mean you always should.

  • Posted By: TheBigDurian @ 01/08/2009 11:21:34 AM

    All these ???If Canadadian terrorists were firing rockets into New York??? type arguments are a load of crap. You can???t spend decades systematicaly breaking down the social infrestructure of a peoples, as Isreal has done in Gaza, and then expect them to be able to do something as simple as police themselves. What Isreal is doing in Gaza is not self defence, it???s collective punishment. You don???t kill that many civilians exersizing self defence. Do the Isrealis actually believe that this action will ???punk??? the the Paliatinians in Gaza into not firing rockets at them?

  • Posted By: Fayetaye @ 01/08/2009 11:21:28 AM

    You all speak like you have actually lived a day in Palestine. You have no clue what it is like to be oppressed. To be told where you can or can't go, or what time you should be in. Be stopped at checkpoints all the time. especially when you are trying to rush your gravely sick and dying ones to hospital . Have guns pointed in your face or that of your kids. Have your home bulldozed so that a new house can be built for a jewish settler. Wait for death cause you have not eaten or drank water in days and the propects of getting food or drink are zero cause your oppressors want you to starve and have restricted your access to those essentials.. All of you may think the sun shines out of Israels ass but I think that they are worse than Hitler. I have seen what Israeli soldiers do to little kids and trust me they relish in the moment when they blow some little kids brains out. Reality Check, get the facts you are very clueless. It is not so cut and dry as them firing rockets into Israel, it is about their lands being taken to give the jewish settlers homes. Why should they just sit back and do nothing at all. Would you?

  • Posted By: joemama64 @ 01/08/2009 11:21:26 AM

    This writer is truly an idiot!

  • Posted By: globalcritic @ 01/08/2009 11:19:23 AM

    I must agree with Mr. Miller, that a tougher stance on Israel is necessary. While the Palestinians certainly do shoulder a great deal of the blame, we cannot ignore how the Israeli government seems to be unwilling to provide any real changes to the system that keeps most of the Palestinian people from living freely, working freely, and learning freely. The actions that the Israelis allow, whether it is turning a blind eye to illegal Jewish settlements, cutting off vital foreign aid and supplies, or bombing "targets" in densely-populated urban areas, simply makes the Palestinians and the Arabic nations resent them more, and serves as a recruitment tool for extremist groups. This is the reason that extremists were elected to power within their government, even though most Palestinians probably are much more moderate in their leanings. Israel needs to learn that progress will not be made until they are willing to change as much as they are asking the Palestinians to change.

  • Posted By: missnis @ 01/08/2009 11:17:14 AM

    We all have our personal biases but I cannot believe that amount of hatred coming through these comments. Both sides are just creating an ongoing cycle of violence. Hamas does not speak for all Palestinians - most are willing to live side by side with Israelis (as long as they are able to have the SAME RIGHTS as the Israelis). And although Israel is claiming to only attack to defend itself, do they really think that killing young children and destroying homes and families will not lead to more terrorism? That in itself creates disgruntled, unhappy, desperate people irrational enough to commit acts of violence in revenge.

    Obama has the opportunity to make change and I think that he might actually do it. I agree with this article in that America is doing a disservice to the entire world if it keeps blindly supporting Israel as it has in the past. Continuing to build settlements, denying aid, confiscating fertile land, applying curfews and restricting necessities like water are only a few of the acts committed by a nation that claims to do nothing wrong and only act in defense. This needs to be revisited by our American foreign policy.

    In response to the fact that Palestinians can establish a homeland within other Middle Eastern countries, that is out of the question. They are in their homeland and should be able to stay where they are (and where they were before more settlements were built) and raise their families as has been done for generations.

  • Posted By: postalray @ 01/08/2009 11:16:58 AM

    If world war breaks out...and it eventually will...i pray i can be in the heart of Israel, because it has been promised to God's people, and is protected by him. I know there are those who will laugh and scorn those of us who base our beliefs on the Holy Word of God, but you look at recent history and you see the miraculous odds that Israel have overcome to even exist as a nation. Isn't it funny that every time they are attacked by one of the arab nations, that they end up with more territory than before. The land is their's. They have tried to share it and every time they are stabbed in the back. Hey let all the terriorist continue to bombard Israel, that's the quickest and surest way to rid this world of the cowardly scumbags.

  • Posted By: gelliott5949@yahoo.com @ 01/08/2009 11:16:36 AM

    I am ashamed to be an American, which is the first time I have felt this way in all of my 60 years. But to condemn Israel for defending themselves is not only stupid but non - sensical. And the previous comment from the gentleman that one day the Messiah that Israel has waited for, will return -is very true. Jesus-the Lanb- will return as a King of Kings and Lord of Lords-to decide the fate of the HAMAS. Jesus warned us of these times-when armies surround Jerusalem, He said, the end is drawing near. And He told us that men will cry peace, peace, but there will be no peace. Check out your Bible also, to determine who is the rightful owner of the land that Hamas is sitting on-the Israelites were given that land a long time ago by a much higher power than Hamas. God! You know Him-don't you? The one you claim doesn't exist anymore? You claim He's dead-and that His son never existed or isn't the rightful King of Heaven? When He returns you will find out that Hamas was wrong and that Doomsday is not just a myth.

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