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  • Posted By: Warrior of Peace @ 01/08/2009 10:23:00 AM

    Its interesting how folks so far away from the conflict have so much hatred towards Israel or Palestine.

    I totally agree that Israel needs to put a stop to Rockets from Hamas. But shouldn't there be a better way than killing around 700 people in the process. I don't think they have tried everything and Israel alone can't solve this.

    Why not US mediatewith Israel and Palestine to come up with splitting of the land that is agreeable to everyone in a fair manner. I am sure if they spent couple of days in a locked room with the map of the region, they can come up with an agreeable border. Once they have agreed, US with the help of "good" countries in the region with no alterior motives, to create a de-militarized zone around the borders of the new land. Also use the de-militarized zone to connect west bank and Gaza securely without any access to Israel with bridges or tunnels. Syria and Egypt should be involved in the decision as well. If they are not in this together, any left-over Radicals in west bank and Gaza will smuggle arms across their borders.

    Instead of agreeing or disagreeing with either side, Obama and/or collection of world leaders should try and stop the killing on both sides first, do what's needed to enable that.

    At least Miller is trying to get people talking about the crisis and it is his opinion. We all have our own.

    • Posted By: Syrin23 @ 01/08/2009 10:28:32 AM

      Why not mediate? You clearly are not familiar with history.

      When there was a cease fire, and Israel gave land BACk in the Gaza strip, rocket attacks increased 500% !!!

      Does that adequately answer your question? These are monsters whose only goal is Israeli destruction. You can't negotiate with them.

      • Posted By: Warrior of Peace @ 01/08/2009 10:51:08 AM

        Again we are just looking at the past and assuming the future.

        The problem doesn't resolve with negotiation. The agreed conditions have to be carried through with the help of international peace keeping force during the ceasefire. I am not saying its really easy to mediate with people who have hated each other for centuries. Even in schools, the history lesson is marred with hatred. Also with unemployment over 50%, its really easy for radicals to recruit people, gives these guys purpose in life even if they don't make any sense.

        Even if every single Hamas militant is killed, its not going to change it for better. The attacks might reduce for a while. Imagine a young impressionable kid watching his parents die on either side. He/she will grow up hating the other side, eventually a new recruit for another radical group.

        Again it's not easy but someone has to try it again and again.

  • Posted By: jw1273 @ 01/08/2009 10:49:36 AM

    We all better hope that the United States always supports the Jews. For more reasons than I have time to explain.

  • Posted By: rubing @ 01/08/2009 10:49:02 AM

    The simple fact is that the Palestinians have a country already - it's called Jordan (what used to be Trans-Jordan). The fact that everyone seems to have forgotten that is baffling. As far as the most recent outbreak of violence is concerned - if you fire rockets into a country, that country will attack you back. If you store munitions in schools and other civilian buildings, you can fully expect that those places will be bombed. It is a simple equation.
    Though I am a supporter or Isreal, I do feel bad for the Palestinians. They have been used as a political tool and puppet by the surrounding arab nations for decades now in order to achieve their main goal - the destruction of Israel. There really can be no peace as long as that fact remains, and it is a fact unfortunately. That is why at some point during every 'peace' deal, the Palestinian side demands the 'right to return' (when the fact is that there is not room on the tiny sliver of land that is Israel to accommodate both Israelis and all the Palestinians living in other countires).
    In addition, the very countries who condemn Isaels's treatment of the Palestinians are the same ones who keep them all living in refugee camps in their own country. If these nations cared so much for the well being of the Palestinians why wouldn't they let them integrate into their societies or supply them with better aid? Perhaps because then there wouldn't be any 'cause' to use as a smokescreen for the agenda of wiping Israel off the map. Everything else is just propoganda.

  • Posted By: joes557 @ 01/08/2009 10:48:25 AM

    God is behind Israel and I pitty the U.S. if we ever stop backing them.

  • Posted By: inter1d @ 01/08/2009 10:47:37 AM

    Israel is fight for its

  • Posted By: notababyboomer @ 01/08/2009 10:46:22 AM

    Posted By: forUSAonly @ 01/08/2009 9:58:33 AM
    Our blind support for Israel will only continue to jeopardize our security here at home, where it really matters.
    Israel an its supporters can go their and continue their endless wars if it choses to, just keep America out of it!
    I hope that Obama finally puts an end to the billions of tax payer's dollars that is allocated each year for the benefit of this apartheid state.


    I was with you up to the apartheid state thing but the point is i agree we need to be focusing all of our time, effort and money on solving America's problems. Simply put America's problems are infinitely more impotant then anything thats going on in Gaza.

  • Posted By: Yabetcha @ 01/08/2009 10:45:40 AM

    Concerned American Veteran and Wildhorses and rayray, There are people who were not fortunate to have the Dad I had. He has been gone for 14 years and I am 59. But when I was young, he taught me that Israel would be a painful unhealing wound on the earth at the end, and that there would be a confederation of European Nations that would be very powerful, and that Russia, who the US sent aid dollars to and made my Dad laugh, "so they can be built up so that they will be a strong nation and 'Rosh' or The Great Bear (Bible) turn against Israel and the U.S. at the end. Hmmm...Dad's right again, Bible scholar that he was. God gave them the land grant thousands of years ago, and they were sent all over the world for 2000 years in the diasphora. But God said he would regather them in the land that He gave them. They were talked into giving up the Gaza by the U.S. That concession brought no peace, as Thugs called Hamas moved into Gaza and began firing dozens of rockets at them. I hope Obama realizes that God promised to bless those that bless Israel. Our troubles really started after we got them to give away the Gaza. They were refugees from their own land, but that VERY day, a small swelling was noticed in the Atlantic and when it developed into Katrina, our people were 'refugees' from New Orleans, sent other places in the U.S. Go Figure. I wouldn't touch Israel negatively with a 10 foot pole. But why worry? Most Americans in their brillance, believe that they are god!

  • Posted By: CommonSenseFirst @ 01/08/2009 10:45:14 AM

    Wow, The very first sentence of this article shows racial hatred and profiling. I would think that Newsweek has higher ethical standards and tolerance then this.

  • Posted By: rezteacher @ 01/08/2009 10:45:06 AM

    Wont this be interesting. What will a new president do? Will we see his Christian patriotic American leadership, or will we see his Chicago "Christian" anti-American anti-Jew roots come through? Or will we see the ties to his Muslim name and Muslim heritage who he is so proud of? He must be tough? I agree but, it seems the same people who cry that we should not be the world police in Iraq and Afghanistan are now saying we must keep a strong eye on those ???dangerous??? people in Israel. I have many friends on both sides of the line. Spent some of my best years in Israel. It is a difficult issue, and ill bet most of us in our comfortable, easy chairs, watching this thing unravel on our flat screen TV???s, only get half the story, and we just don???t have a clue. I ask this, why wont the neighbors open their boarders to the refugees. Lebanon, is the only state willing to risk hosting Hamas. Egypt? Syria? Jordan? Saudi Arabia? They all know the danger of terrorists who hide behind the women and kids. Maybe Obama needs to recognize Israel. We will see what he really thinks.

  • Posted By: shlomo2009 @ 01/08/2009 10:23:09 AM

    Israel is one of the few places on earth where Jews can defend themselves from pogroms.I came from a country where there was anti-semitism and moved to Israel.The Arabs are experts at working on western weakness,"The unending hatred to Jews".While rockets,missiles are destroying the lives of children in Sderot for years,maybe most times not physically,but emotionally. The world accepted this as proportional response.No United Nation condemnation no resolutions passed against palestinian attacks.The only reason not more Israeli children have died is through G-d's help and bomb shelters.
    What exactly do the Gazan's want?Why is there an embargo? Hamas chief aim is to destroy Israel,not live in peace.If Hamas had smuggled in food,medicines,etc to help his people and showed Israel that they want to live in peace,there would be no embargo.
    If you have over a million arabs living in Israel proper,why can't Jews live in Gaza or the west bank.Is that not apartheid.There are certain areas in the world where Jews cannot live.Why is this?This is the unending hatred towards Jews.How would the world react if Arabs were not allowed to live in Israel proper or in certain parts of the world.All nations borders have come through conflict and conquering.The Jews are defending a land which belongs to them.The land is full of Jewish artifacts and history.I have still to see genuine Palestinian archeology in this area,not Canaanite and Phillistine.
    When Israel pulled out of Lebanon and Gaza completely, Israel got attacked.Why?The unending appetite of the Arabs to conquer.The only time there will ever be peace is when the Arabs truly believe in the way of peace.

    • Posted By: miz kitty @ 01/08/2009 10:44:26 AM

      To Shlomo2009....I'm 3'rd generation white bread, born and raised in New England. As far removed from Jewishness as that is, I want you to know that I love Israel and though I haven't been there yet, I consider her my souls homeland. The American Indian called dying, "coming to a wide space at the end of the trail." I would be honored if Israel were my wide space.

  • Posted By: AntiAlah @ 01/08/2009 10:44:26 AM

    worrisome you're right, unfortunatelly nowadays you can easily tell which side a news media is for, they have adopted very noticeable tendencies, which is bound to happen. It might not be fair and clash with our own ideas but that's part of a country with freedom of speech...enjoy it while it lasts, seriously.

  • Posted By: bjk2009 @ 01/08/2009 10:43:49 AM

    Well, Aaron, from the events of the past 12 days, it's abundantly clear that it takes two sides to make peace but only one to start a war. In this case the blame falls squarely on Hamas, financed and armed by Syria and Iran.
    How about getting tough on America's enemies for a change?
    Or better yet, let Israel finish the job this time and make peace on its own terms?
    Liberal rag magazines like newsweek can't stomach a bunch of thugs like Hamas, the Syrians, or Iran getting the crap kicked out of them. And therein lies the problem.

  • Posted By: CommonSenseFirst @ 01/08/2009 10:43:47 AM

    Wow, the very first sentence of this article shows racial profiling and disgust. I would think Newsweek has a higher set of standards

  • Posted By: hadassah1977 @ 01/08/2009 10:15:24 AM

    You obviously lack undestanding of what is actually happening in Israel. You blame Israel for what's happening in Gaza but fail to realize that Hamas is the one denying aid to Palestinian civilians. Hamas uses civilians as human shields and you blame Israel for what happens to them. Hamas steals relief supplies, and you accuse Israel of denying civilians aid. Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Syria have openly stated that their goal is the total annihilation of the nation of Israel and every Jewish soul, and you decry that America should be tougher on a nation that is simply trying preserve its people from slaughter. Perhaps before you determine what you think is the best course of action for Israel or America, you should try spending actual time in Israel. I recommend S'derot, Ashkelon, or Be'er Sheba. Just remember when the siren goes off, you only have 15 seconds to get to shelter before the Hamas missile hits you.

  • Posted By: pictureofuu @ 01/08/2009 10:42:06 AM

    I think that we are all missing a huge issue here. I do feel bad for them over there. No one should have to go thru this. I see all the time that we need to do this and we need to do that. Well this is my opinon and mine only. Why are we sticking our nose in someone elses business. We get into trouble every time. For aid is a different story. We are not the baby sitters of the world. We cant even take care of our own people and country, but we want to take care of others. Also this is a religious war, something America has no business and no clue what we are doing. Stay out of it. If we have to wait till it is all over to send in aid so be it. If it was America, how many countries do you think are going to step up to the plate, HHHMMMM not many if any. We are failing and have failed at helping our own, but we are trying to help others. Does not make alot of sense. Again I do feel for them, hopefully this will be resloved soon.

  • Posted By: unanymous1 @ 01/08/2009 10:04:38 AM

    kingtad1136 said...

    "the Palestinians were in control of that little strip of land for nearly 1500 years... "

    Not true! Please read this for the history of this region. There was no such people as the "Palestinians" until the formation of the Israeli state in 1967. http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm

    • Posted By: epryor @ 01/08/2009 10:41:45 AM

      They might not have been called "Palestinians", but their families and their ancestors occupied that area, no matter what their name.

  • Posted By: vnmojo @ 01/08/2009 10:40:47 AM

    Peace can be achieved permanently only if both parties decide that they have enough. Third party can help to promote peace, but only temporarily.
    The way, I look at it, peace between Palestinians and Israelis is just pipe dream.......Unless, both decide they have enough.

  • Posted By: scaluc @ 01/08/2009 10:40:36 AM

    I can???t express how happy I am to see an article written by a highly regarded reporter get published in a widely distributed magazine that reports on the Israel/Palestinian conflict from the prospective of what is best for America. I admit I was wrong; we do have a free press after all. I hope that other reporters and magazines will show the same courage.

  • Posted By: johnnynuke @ 01/08/2009 9:20:13 AM

    Number one, America has lost credit with the entire world for supporting Isreal. Number 2 since when does the word defend mean a 100 to 1 kill ratio????? Isreal is a little bully with a big bully behind it protecting it. America should STOP supporting it and lets see if it can survive on its own. Third why does no one ask why every other arab nation is "against" Isreal? You know there is a reason. Remember every lie has a grain of truth!.

    • Posted By: unanymous1 @ 01/08/2009 10:40:27 AM

      The Palestinians have long cultivated an image of victimhood to win world sympathy and demand Israeli restraint in the face of Palestinian aggression. In reality, the Palestinians' so-called "primitive" Kassam rocket has killed and wounded hundreds of Israeli civilians. The number of casualties would be even higher without Israeli security measures such as early-warning alarms in areas under rocket threat that allow Israelis to escape into bomb shelters. Hamas has also fired medium-range Grad-type Katyusha rockets, placing more than 250,000 Israeli civilians under direct threat of rocket fire.

      Given the Palestinian fire power and their willingness to use it, it is clear that the charge of "excessive force" is simply the latest incarnation of the Palestinian strategy of "victimhood." Terror groups fire indiscriminately at innocent Israelis and then complain of excessive or disproportionate force when Israel fires back. But according to internationally accepted laws of war, Israel is permitted to respond with the force necessary to end the conflict.

      It is also important to examine the intent behind the use of weapons. Palestinian terrorists do everything in their power to hurt or kill as many Israeli civilians as possible; Israel is using its advanced weaponry to protect Palestinian civilians from harm.

      And where are the article praising Israel for their allowance of humanitarian aid into the region, or their warning text messages into the area civilians? Hamas / "Palestine" would never do this.

    • Posted By: Vkvint @ 01/08/2009 10:23:11 AM

      Every lie does NOT have a grain of truth. What many don't get when they say Israel is giving an unmeasured response is that Israel is not fighting to get even or to be right or an eye for an eye. They are fighting to stay alive! They are fighting for the peace of their citizens and the only correct measure is obliterating the threat, in other words, obliterating Hamas.

  • Posted By: rubing @ 01/08/2009 10:39:37 AM

    The simple fact is that the Palestinians have a country already - it's called Jordan (what used to be Trans-Jordan). The fact that everyone seems to have forgotten that is baffling. As far as the most recent outbreak of violence is concerned - if you fire rockets into a country, that country will attack you back. If you store munitions in schools and other civilian buildings, you can fully expect that those places will be bombed. It is a simple equation.
    Though I am a supporter or Isreal, I do feel bad for the Palestinians. They have been used as a political tool and puppet by the surrounding arab nations for decades now in order to achieve their main goal - the destruction of Israel. There really can be no peace as long as that fact remains, and it is a fact unfortunately. That is why at some point during every 'peace' deal, the Palestinian side demands the 'right to return' (when the fact is that there is not room on the tiny sliver of land that is Israel to accommodate both Israelis and all the Palestinians living in other countires).
    In addition, the very countries who condemn Isaels's treatment of the Palestinians are the same ones who keep them all living in refugee camps in their own country. If these nations cared so much for the well being of the Palestinians why wouldn't they let them integrate into their societies or supply them with better aid? Perhaps because then there wouldn't be any 'cause' to use as a smokescreen for the agenda of wiping Israel off the map. Everything else is just propoganda.

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