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  • Posted By: mommyof3 @ 01/06/2009 9:25:03 PM

    Who said anything about bombing every country in middle east? I know Muslim terrorist would love to bomb America and it's allies, that's a fact, but not me, never said anything like that..And yes I do realize that not all of palestine are terrorist but those images of them cheering in the street by the masses at the destruction of America on 9/11 kinda let me know I wasn't exactly on their good list. I am not a hypocrite and I do know the difference between right and wrong and I also know who my friends are and who I can trust, and last time I checked I didn't see any Jews dancing with joy after 9/11. And I don't have a problem identifying what I believe is good and evil. I'll tell you what you worry about human rights for terrorist and I'll worry about saving my a.. at the next terrorist attack. And by the way when people speak against the middle east it is almost all the time against terrorist extremist and their followers who hate Jews, America and it's democracy, at least that is the way I see it for myself. So quit trying to make me out to be some kind of idiot.

    • Posted By: Julia Lucas @ 01/07/2009 7:19:01 PM

      Until "mommy of 3' starts addressing Israel's war crimes, her posts are nonsense. The use of cluster bombs and phosphorus is a war crime and Israel is suing them against the indigenous Palestinian people. Just one of their many crime against humanity.
      Now, unless you view indigenous Palestinians are inhuman- and I suspec that she does- you need to address the war crimes agains these people.
      40 civilians killed in a UN school jsut the latest in israel's crimes..DEAL WITH IT AND STOP RABBITTING ON ABOUT SEMANTICS.

    • Posted By: gamblingnick @ 01/07/2009 1:03:59 AM

      Our government has enabled Israel to carry out its crimes for decades without any accountability. How are Palestinians supposed to feel towards us?

      Also, how about Netanyahu who said that the 9-11 attacks were good for Israel? This guy is about to be elected prime minister of Israel.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/07/2009 8:41:49 AM

    Majorie Cohn: Of the Huffington Post Today Writes..

    Since Israel began its War on Gaza 11 days ago, more than 560 Palestinians -- about a quarter of them Civilians -- have been Killed. SomeTwo thousand Gazans, including hundreds of Children, have been wounded.

    Israel's "Operation Cast Lead" marks an escalation of Israel's two-year blockade of the Gaza Strip which has DEPRIVED 1.5 million Palestinians of necessary food, medicine, fuel and other necessities.

    Extermination: Israel is allegedly using White Phosphorous Gas, an Illegal Chemical Weapon that Burns to the Bone. Dr. Mads Gilbert, a member of a Norwegian triage medical team working in Gaza, has documented Israel's use of Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME), which cuts its victims in to PIECES and reportedly causes CANCER in SURVIVORS. Gilbert, who has worked in several conflict zones, said the situation in Gaza is the worst he has ever seen.

    Two United Nations schools have been hit by air strikes, killing at least 30 people. The New York Times reported on Monday that Gazan hospitals are full of civilians, not Hamas fighters.

    Big Note: The targeting of civilians violates the Fourth Geneva Convention. Since the rockets fired from Gaza into Israel cannot distinguish between civilians and military targets, they are illegal.

    But Israel's air and ground attack in Gaza violates Geneva in four ways.

    First, it constitutes collective punishment of the entire population in Gaza for the acts of a few militants. Second, it targets civilians, as evidenced by the large numbers of civilian casualties.

    Third, it is a disproportionate response to the rockets fired into Israel. Fourth, an occupying power has an obligation to ensure food and medical supplies to the occupied population; Israel's blockade has created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

    • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 01/07/2009 9:49:38 AM

      I have a hard time arguing with your facts, but the retaliation for the rocket attacks is not over-kill. If you don't destroy the capability to launch rockets the mission is a failure. We need a peace-keeping UN or NATO buffer force to keep the two sides away from each other, while rebuilding the Palestinian areas and creating an economy that doesn't involve or depend on israel. In other words, isolate Israel from the rest of the middle east. Israel can't restrain itself from expanding into illegal areas and the Palestinians can't restrain itself from attempting to eliminate Israel. Why try to bring them together? when the world's countries were refusing to accept the Jews, they settled on the Middle east. Big mistake because Israel thinks that was devine intervention and that they are the true rulers of all they survey.

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/07/2009 6:54:10 PM


        All Men and Women who walk Upright and Breathe Air...

        Are God's Chosen People and God does not Favor any of his Creations, more than the Other.

        Its Man's Il-Logic being appliedhere and the World is Not Buying it....

        Anymore...Thank God

        All I can say is ....

        The American Government has got to STOP this Favored Nation Status, Once and For All.

        All Men & Women have the Right to Exist and Prosper...

        Not One Particular [Small Nation]


        Its a Damn Shame on the World.

        Civilization are in Cycles, Phases and Stages...

        Hundreds of Nations have been On Top, at one time or another...

        Civilization is Cyclical

        If one Nation or People were above All Others, they would be on Top from the Past To The Present.

        Yes Sir, from the Begining, Middle and to the End...

        No One Group has Never done this and there's a Reason for that...

        God gives Oppourtunity to all he's Created..

        Thats All of Us...

        Have a Great Night

        PS: God Deals in Time, But not Effected by Time and God's Time, Supersedes Man's Time and Cannot be Hindered or Stopped by Man's Religious Afilliations or Twisted Politics.

  • Posted By: distantsmoke @ 01/05/2009 7:24:50 PM

    Once the International Community has stripped Israel of the Right of Self Defense, how will the rest of us maintain a right to defend ourselves in the face of a constant stream of Muslim oppression?

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/05/2009 8:44:26 PM

      DUMB A!!

      ISRAEL HAS OVER 250 ILLEGALLY OBTAINED NUCLEAR WEAPONS...

      THEY HAVE THE ARSENAL OF MASS DESTRUCTION !!!

      THE HAVE THE MILITARY MIGHT !!

      THEY HAVE THE MAN POWER AND THE ARTILLERY ...

      ALL THIS POOR HELPLESS ISRAELI BULL SPIT HAS COME TO AN END.

      THAT OLD SONG IS PLAYED OUT AND ITS BEEN DISPELLED.

      IT IS ISRAEL THAT IS THE THREAT, TO THAT REGION.

      THAT'S WHY ISRAEL IS JUMPING ON A GROUP THAT CANNOT COPE OR DEFEND ITSELF.

      THEY ARE COPYING BUSH JR. AS HE DID IN THE IRAQ INVASION AND THAT IS, TO SUPPOSEDLY SHOW HOW POWERFUL YOU ARE, AGAINST A GROUP THAT CANNOT DEFEND ITSELF IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

      BUT THEY WOULD NEVER DO THIS AGAINST CHINA, RUSSIA, AMERICA, FRANCE, GERMANY, GREAT BRITAIN OR ANY OTHER CAPABLE NATION, WITH EQUAL NUCLEAR & MILITARY MIGHT.

      HOW COURAGEOUS AND BRAVE IS THAT

      • Posted By: distantsmoke @ 01/07/2009 6:46:36 PM

        I won't even respond to most of your rant, but I would like to point out that Israel toook a wasteland and turned it into a garden. They were given land that had been completely unproductive and unwanted under the Muslims and made it into a viable state.

        This is something that can be proven. There are historical photos of the land before the UN gave it to Israel with the agreement of the Arab States of the time. It was a wasteland.

        The reason the Muslims and Arabs hate israel so much is because they are a very visible sign of Arab and Muslim failure.

        As for the rest of your declarations, simply typing something in "caps" doesn't make it true. This a problem with the Arab and Muslim educational system. You are all taught to merely parrot the words of your Imams. None of you are capable of rational dialog. If you have a valid arguement put it forth in a reasoned and respectful manner, then people might be willing to listen to you.

      • Posted By: brydges @ 01/06/2009 1:24:34 PM

        BUT THEY WOULD NEVER DO THIS AGAINST CHINA, RUSSIA, AMERICA, FRANCE, GERMANY, GREAT BRITAIN OR ANY OTHER CAPABLE NATION, WITH EQUAL NUCLEAR & MILITARY
        Dumb A!! - none of these countries launch daily rocket attacks against isreal. Of course you probably blame that on bush too, get an education

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/07/2009 10:00:35 AM

    Omaar start posting on the wall like a normal person, type in paragraphs single spaced please, but judging from your post you lack the intellectual ability to do so. We spend on average 1 Billion a DAY in IRAQ so 3 bil a year to Isreal is not so large, to protect an ally who is surrounded by religous fanatics who will not negotiate and only settle for their destruction. How much do we give to other countries including Palestinian ones Omar, why cant we take from them? Learn a little bit, and then comment

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/07/2009 6:36:35 PM

      Simple Minds....

      WHINE & CRY...


      But Not ...I No Not ..I

      BYE BYE

  • Posted By: Anonymas @ 01/07/2009 5:19:36 PM

    Everyone is so worried about this money being handed out to some little bully nation, I wonder what good it will do them when the world economy collapses here in January 21, or when there is no one much, if any, left after the attack on Iran that causes a world wide nuclear exchange over Isreal? Does anyone else notice the dark moon rising? Iran wants to Wipe Isreal off the map, Isreal is getting nervous and is ready for a preemptive nuke strick on Iran with Russia and syria as Irans allies, and with Russian Bombers with nukes in Venasualia and Russian warships there also. Plus there already not happy about the anit-missile systems of ours in the Eastern part of Europe. One blink, One twitch, and it will be over for everyone I think. We got F.E.M.A. death camps all across America waiting to recieve U.S. citizens, We got a warmonger in Office the top Ex-C.I.A. agents claim wants to start this crap before he leaves office, We got thousands of F.E.M.A. coffens in Georgia state stockpiled up for the dead, Marshal Law waiting to be instated, and 20k U.S. soilders to enforce civil unrest in America on stand by status. V.P.E. Joe Biden and Collen Powell telling the public that on Jan. 21, 2009 That there will be a guarenteed, GENERATED international crisis, and the possibility of a nuclear or bio weapon detinated on U.S. soil with in the next 5 years. I'm Just wondering if that could be a strategicly placed bio-one on the 20th during P.E. Obamas inugeration, to release something like a influenza virus or something worse on the public that would take 24 hours to show up for them to have a quarintine crisis on hand to instate Marshal Law and put us into the death camps. Sound feesable? Like something our good old government might try on us next? I don't know what to expect next. Any ideas folks?

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/06/2009 6:59:44 PM

    Israel is without Spot, Wrinkle, Blot or Blemish...

    Israel can do as it Pleases..

    Because it's God's "Chosen Land & People"

    If you believe that, I Feel Sorry for You.

    News Flash...

    All Humans, are God's People and All the land on Earth, is Holy God's Land.

    Some Men in Politics & Religion will Deceive You and make you Believe that God is a God of Special Interest...

    Sorry...

    God is not a God of [Exclusivity]

    It would Contradict All the Billions of Humans God Himself Created...

    The Chosen Race, The Chosen Land is a LIE and a Major Deception

    All Humans that Walk and Breathe Air are God's Favored for this Earth.

    The Rich, Poor, Sick, Afflicted, Religious, Independent, Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Moderate and the Mediocre, Muslim, Judaism, Christian, Catholic, Budhist, Hindu and Atheist ...

    We all live and Die Together..

    God's Fate & Destiny, Rules Us All.

    But there is No God's Favored Nation or Race of People....

    Its an Insult to the Spiritual, more over an Insult to the Carnal World as well

    Everything in Life happens in Cycles, Phases and Stages.

    Everything

    That does not mean God Favors one group over the Other..

    That's Man's Warped and Twisted Thinking...

    Not God's Thinking

    • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/07/2009 4:59:42 PM

      If you choose to make up the Bible as you want it to read, by all means do so. Keep it to yourself though. It's blasphemous to make up your own truths.

  • Posted By: Julia Lucas @ 01/07/2009 4:36:51 PM

    Obama, yes you can.You can stand up to the Zionist bullies; you have the world and the people behind you. The only people who agree with israel's war crimes are the zionist lobby group in the US and israel. The rest of the world knows just what a rogue state Israel is.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/07/2009 4:33:24 PM


    Its about time a President stood up to this Nation and say, you cannot just do as you please...

    We support Israel's Right to Exist and we Support the Palestinians Right to Exist, but we have helped You for 60 Years...

    3 Billion in Tax Payers Money, its time to Stop this flow of Billions and Military Might, especially in these Tough Economic Times, here in America.

    My Opinion, The 3 Billion per year sent to Israel should go to the Poor here in America.

    Can you imagine the impact of 3 Billion Directed to the Poor Classes here in America...

    If the Government Streamlined the funds correctly, to ensure an End to Generational Poverty here in America..

    Within 20 years we'd have a Major Decrease in Poverty and a Major Increase in Middle Class America !!

    The 3 Billion Dollars of Tax Payers money, should be spent on the Poor Classes in America.

    Israel is a Virtually a [Welfare State, a Welfare Country], by receiving 3 Billion Dollars per year, from U.S. Taxpayers when they are supposedly Self Sufficient, Independent and Prosperous and standing supposedly on their own to feet !!

    How about giving some of those Billions back to the Poor U.S. Tax Payers..Hmmm

    Just think 60 Years of Dolling out Billions to Israel.....

    Just Imagine a Small Population Receiving 3 Billion Dollars Per YEAR Times 60 YEARS !!!

    Not to mention the Billions received by Countries around the World and Jewish Americans and around the World.

    Enough is Enough

    It has to STOP and other countries as well, America should streamline or cut off sending Millions to Billions of Dollars to those countries as well.

    Take care of Home...

    Or we will soon be an Impoverished Nation, with the Poor Class becoming a Much Larger Class and that will not be Good for the Society at all !!

  • Posted By: Julia Lucas @ 01/07/2009 4:32:22 PM

    The use of phosophorus bombs in civilian areas is illegal under international law; they cause horrific burns; Israel has used them in Lebanon and now uses them on the millions of imprisoned people in Gaza. It is way past time that Israel be taken to the International Court for these crimes against humanity.

  • Posted By: cisaksson @ 01/07/2009 4:04:13 PM

    Both sides need to crave peace. Peace in the Mid-East has left everyone languishing in want way too long. Amounting hope has repeatedly been crushed at staggering cost. Expecting that somebody, be it a new US President or anybody else alone, would be able to force opponents to a lasting peace is an illusion. At best, a mediator can only help by functioning as a catalyst. The adversaries must be realistic and try to attain objectively an understanding for the needs of each other and agree on sharing the means and resources, which are at hand. And truly crave for peace! The projection of a foreign nation's strength, be it then the USA or not, alludes that dissatisfaction will linger on. Peace must be truly craved and maintained by all to last. Only then is it possible for external mediators to offer help and have realistic hope to succeed.

    • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 01/07/2009 4:26:48 PM

      Forget Peace! Go for separation.

  • Posted By: donjohnson @ 01/07/2009 4:17:33 PM

    OBAMA can pressure Israel to stop it's practices. We believe in you OBAMA.

    • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 01/07/2009 4:25:27 PM

      Loved you in Miami Vice, Don.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/07/2009 10:17:17 AM

    Also according to your logic we should "give" 3 billion to the poor in the USA every year. Because Isreal is a "welfair" state. Well, what do you think a welfair state is? Isnt giving our poor 3 bil a year Welfair also? If you said something intelligent like invest in projects in poor communities, education, etc you would have come out not sounding like a total moron.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/07/2009 4:18:42 PM

      3 Billion of US Tax Payers Billions...

      A!! Hole are going to Israel...

      That's Wrong and has got to.. STOP !!

      If Israel is a Self Sufficient State, why do they REQUEST, NEED or WANT US Tax Payers 3 Billion Dollars PER YEAR...


      According to Me....

      Most Americans Feel the same way Too !!

      The Exception...People like You trying to use A!! Backwards Logic Opposing Practical & Common Sense Logic

      PS: I'll type the way, I Damn Well Please.

      Continue to try an Divert yourself and Others from the FACTS...

      But I'll TYPE as I Please.

      When YOU Purchase News Week On Line...

      I'll Correct my style of typing..

      Until that Mystical, Magical, Majestical Moment Occurs...

      Live with it

      Bye Now

  • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 01/07/2009 4:09:11 PM

    One thing comes out loud and clear. There are a zillion people who think the israelis have too much influence with the U.S.A.. Guess what? It's not going to change until an equal number of voters form a bloc to offset Israel's political clout. With the politicians from all of the major parties standing in lie to kiss their feet, don't look for change any time soon.

  • Posted By: Julia Lucas @ 01/07/2009 3:38:45 PM

    The UN has stated that no-one was firing from the Un school that was bombed; in essense, Israel murdered 40 civilians, mostly children and then lied about it. It is time for the US to stop with the billions of US dollars in hand-outs to this rogue nation; the money could be spent on health and educations for Us citizens.....and reparation to help the Palestinians to rebuild their shattered lives.

  • Posted By: Julia Lucas @ 01/07/2009 3:34:32 PM

    I'm very afraid that Obama will be up against the rich, loud and powerful Zionist lobby group in the US; they are completely unscrupulous and have no humanity; their only aim is to look after Israel''s intersts.
    That being sid, thanks to the internet, more people around the world are aware of israel's war crimes- the latest being the use of phosphorus bombs; these cause horrific burns and are illegal under international law in civilian areas and israel is using them.
    So, please everyone who cares about humanity, demand that your politicians make their condemnation of Israel's actions loud and clear; you pay their salaries, not the Zionist lobby- at least that;'s the way it should be. Demand that none of your hard earned tax dollars go to a nation that is comitting war crimes.
    Julia Lucas.

  • Posted By: Julia Lucas @ 01/07/2009 3:31:35 PM

    I'm very afraid that Obama will be up against the rich, loud and powerful Zionist lobby group in the US; they are completely unscrupulous and have no humanity; their only aim is to look after Israel''s intersts.
    That being sid, thanks to the internet, more people around the world are aware of israel's war crimes- the latest being the use of phosphorus bombs; these cause horrific burns and are illegal under international law in civilian areas and israel is using them.
    So, please everyone who cares about humanity, demand that your politicians make their condemnation of Israel's actions loud and clear; you pay their salaries, not the Zionist lobby- at least that;'s the way it should be. Demand that none of your hard earned tax dollars go to a nation that is comitting war crimes.
    Julia Lucas.

  • Posted By: mr. red @ 01/07/2009 3:17:29 PM

    honestly the only thing obama should do to be "serious" with israel is to get us out of their. our government was wrong to intervene the first time, and now we're back, showing off our guns and our cash and trying to keep our reputation as the most bad-ass nation. let these people fight their war. it's not our business. we shouldn't be there.

  • Posted By: missconservative @ 01/06/2009 4:12:40 PM

    It's truly a shame that no American politician can speak out against Israel for fear of being ostracized by the public. Yes, yes, Israel has the right to protect itself from terrorist attacks, but their latest offense into Gaza is nothing more than bullying. Since when is it okay for a country to kill more than 400 people - only one of whom was a top-level operative - while losing less than ten in its own territory? People are homeless and scared while Israel hits a U.N.-run school that should have been one of the few safety zones in Gaza. Obama needs to grow a pair and tell Israel to come down off its high horse and cool themselves down. Israel is only succeeding to make it more unsafe for its citizens. How do you kill that many people and launch such aggressive attacks without expecting Hamas to come out stronger in the end? All Israel will succesfully have done is inspire more Palestinians and Muslims from other countries to join the movement. I guarantee there will be more terrorists than Israel will even know how to deal with. Israel alone is responsible for making the Middle East unsafe. Speak out against the Israeli insolence, President-Elect Barack Obama!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: rshayne62 @ 01/06/2009 6:13:54 PM

      I assume you are unaware tht the UN school in question was housing munitions that were to be used against innocent Israelis. Are you not? Perhaps instead of following the news on CNN or MSNBC, you should open your mind to the reality that is going on. The reason so many Palestinians have died is because Hamas operates their military amongst women and children. In fact, Israel often notifies the Gazan families before they attack a location. However, these "peaceful" Arabs then make sure the location is fillied with "innocents" so that there will be more bloodshed. Every structure attacked has been a safehouse filled with rockets and other explosive devices. Rememebr, in the two years since Israel left Gaza, they have not built one civilian factory or one electrical plant or anything else. All the money they have received from the West (including Israel) has been used to build up there terror program.

      Unless you are an idiot, you must be an anti-Semite. Maybe you're both.

      • Posted By: missconservative @ 01/07/2009 2:42:48 PM

        You just reaffirmed the point I was trying to make. God forbid anyone should speak out against Israel for fear of being called "stupid" or "anti-Semite." Did you ever stop to consider that Hamas hides out among regular civilians because regular civilians feel compelled to join the fight against Israel? That's why there is no official army location or uniform. Israel is supplied with American weapons and supplies and bullies the Palestinians. I mean, how dare the Palestinians protest against Israel! For many Palestinians they have nothing left to lose - not even their own lives. Don't get me wrong, Israel has every right to protect its citizens, but I'm questioning whether they have an actual strategy versus using tactics. Israel will not become any safer with this latest attack on Gaza. The offensive will only succeed to strengthen Hamas and encourage more violence against Israel. Why does a person have to be labeled "stupid" or "anti-Semite" for questioning those points? Ignorance begets your ridiculous comments.

  • Posted By: chrisgIII @ 01/06/2009 3:55:56 PM

    I agree with the author of this story that the U.S. has got to stop it's blatant one-sided support of israel. The israelis are nothing more than well supplied thugs. How can we keep supporting a country that indiscriminately kills innocent people all in the name of security? Does security mean killing over 500 people and making 1.5 million more live in poverty? Does the firing of rockets into Israel, which have killed 1 person in a year, justify the killings of all of those innocent people? When i hear the Jews bemoaning their treatment under the Nazis nowadays I have zero sympathy for them because they are doing even worst things to their neighbors. I;m hoping that the new administration will not kowtow to the Jewish lobby in this country as past ones have and stop seeing everything through the eyes of the Israelis who are the real cause of the strife in the region. .

    • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/07/2009 9:17:30 AM

      Your a fool please dont relate the Nazi treatment to this its not even the same people.

      • Posted By: chrisgIII @ 01/07/2009 1:31:37 PM

        No you're the fool for not seeing the truth.

  • Posted By: dsigeorge @ 01/07/2009 11:26:45 AM

    Shared values:
    1. Might make right.
    2. Grab what you can get away with.
    3. Our lives are holier than theirs.
    4. Keep taking handouts (China to U.S. to Israel)
    5. It's ok to spy on your friends.
    6. It's ok to aggress on a helpless, hamstrung populace.
    7. Put your friend in jeopardy with your aggression.
    8. Breed terrorists with your facsist tactics.
    9. Money equals power.
    10. Support the military-industrial complex.
    11. Ignore international law.
    12. Imprison innocents indefinetly.
    13. Kill women and children.
    14. World opinion and humanity mater not.
    And the list goes on.
    We can not continue blindly supporting these shared values.

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