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  • Posted By: agentxjp @ 01/04/2009 9:55:11 PM

    President Obama has to achieve one thing and one thing only in order to bring peace to the Middle East. He has to show both Israel and the Palestinians they probably don't know what they are wishing for. To Israel, a strong America as the only superpower and unquestioned loyalty to the Israeli cause have been view as vital to its national security. But guess what, since the other superpower, the Soviet Union, collapsed, and two of the most pro-Israel American presidents Bill Clinton and G W Bush, Israel has seen more attacks on its citizens than ever before. The problem seem to be that America appears to be too pro-Israel. To the Palestinians, and Hamas in particular, America's support for Israel has been viewed as the root of all evil. The suspicion on the US prevents them from accepting Israel and a settlement. They need to understand that if American stops supporting Israel, it also means that the Jewish state is free to unleash its awesome war machine on any parts of the Middle East, increasing the suffering of the Palestinians and other Arabs.

  • Posted By: Ghayyur Khan @ 01/04/2009 9:53:53 PM

    If Obama was brave enough to think of approaching Peace in the Middl east without a capital I for Israel's Interests, he would be a far better president than we have seen in eight long years. But is he brave enough? Is he wise enough? Does he see the difference between what is good for America and what is good for Israel? Nothing in the news has provoked a response yet.

    The Jewish people are accountable to God All Mighty. You can't kill Muslims on the excuse of "suspected tunnels" or "suspected Hamas" or "suspected terrorists". When Israeli bombs drop on Gaza, do the bombs know that they are not supposed to hit women and children? The punishment that God will give for disobeying Him is so far in excess of what you can even imagine that I shudder to think of it. And yes, God will take revenge. That is His responsibility when people go astray. I pray that the Jews reform themselves because I don't want to see the Tribulation promised for murdering Muslims carte-blanche.

    First the Jews imagined Iraq was their enemy, so America went after Iraq. Now Israel is afraid of Iran, so the New York Times, Washington Post run articles claiming that Iran is a danger to the US. If it weren't for the Jews, Iran couldn't be bothered with the United States of America.

    When you choose what to do, it is ever so easy. Choose Absolute Justice. Then you have nothing to fear from anyone.
    Allison Knight

  • Posted By: RATIONALTHINKER @ 01/04/2009 9:30:12 PM

    This essay is exactly the reason Israel must do what it is doing. Where is the daily outrage regarding rockets fired into Israel on a daily basis. Where is the acknowledgment of the amazing restraint on the part of Israel in not attacking Hamas sooner? Imagine Cuba firing rockets into Guantanamo, then firing a few rockets daily into Key West, and a rocket now and then into Miami. Please Ms. Miller tell me about the restrain the U.S. would show in such a situation; would we wait years, months, weeks, days before we took whatever action necessary to stop such attacks? Israel has to be committed to peace in the long run there is not choice, Hamas as you say yourself is comitted to merely the destruction of Israel. Your patience on their behalf is farcical, but since it is the same patience exercised by the rest of the world, it is clear what they must act as they have.

  • Posted By: big_4 @ 01/04/2009 9:08:35 PM

    Miller,

    Your article defies reason on so many levels.

    Until the end of time, there will be no peace between Israel and Palestinians. Not to sound hawkish, or pessimistic, but it is the truth. THe creedence of hamas is to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. As long as that creedence remains, then there will be no peace. It is that simple. Time after time we have seen Palestine fire rockets into Israel after Israel and them had agreed on a cease fire. Every time a battle ends, Palestine is the antagonist. Every time.

    And that gives Israel the right to decide when enough is enough. They are not the antagonist; they are not at fault.

    Israel reserves the right to declare all out war. And its about time they gave Palestine and Hamas what they deserve.

  • Posted By: joemoye @ 01/04/2009 6:48:42 PM

    What a breath of fresh air. I greatly appreciate this column by Mr. Miller. As to Mr. Sharp's comments: uh, Jews aren't "white people", (unless an ancestor intermarried) they're Semites just like their Palestinian cousins, you know, as in the term, "anti-Semitism". As to Omar's comments: much anger but some truth in his observations. Oh, by the way, though I am not advocating it, "wiping Israel off the map", the phrase so often condemned in the press, is a legitimate political objective and wouldn't necessarily cost a single life. It would only require a name change. For example, Do you see USSR on maps anywhere today? No reasonable Muslim would advocate the mass murder of Israel's citizens. In fact, the Koran honors Jews. Yes, some far right Muslims want to convert everybody just as do far right Christians. But reasonable Muslims and Arabs still have justifiable grievances against Israel's racist treatment of non Jews.

    • Posted By: becolby @ 01/04/2009 7:03:01 PM

      Oh thats what they are calling for, a name change. Allah will accept the Jews if they would just change their name. Could that statement be any more ignorant of reality?

      • Posted By: Nez123 @ 01/04/2009 9:08:29 PM

        I may be completely wrong becolby, but i dont think the Israel/Palestine issue comes from whether Allah accepts Jews or not. I think it has more to do with "The Jews took my land, I want it back". I think it's a fight between what each side seems to think is their God-given right and ONLY theirs.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/04/2009 8:00:17 PM

      You are Wrong, Middle Easterners Arabs are Caucasian and that includes Jewish People, Semitic or Shemetic Race as well.

      Do your Research

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people

      The Websters Unabridged Dictionary says the same thing and is more Detailed...

      But yes Middle East People are Caucasian and that Includes Arabs & Jews...Too

      White people is a term which is usually used to refer to human beings characterized, at least in part, by the light pigmentation of their skin. It generally refers to people having European ancestry. The similar, yet broader term "Caucasian race" also includes people from the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Central and South Asia.

      Rather than a straightforward description of skin color, the term white functions as a color terminology for race. Various conceptions of whiteness have had implications in terms of national identity, consanguinity, public policy, religion, population statistics, racial segregation/affirmative action, eugenics, racial marginalization and racial quotas. The concept has been applied with varying degrees of formality and internal consistency in disciplines including: sociology, politics, genetics, biology, medicine, biomedicine, language, culture, and law.

      Raj Bhopal and Liam Donaldson, both M.D.s at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne, England, criticize the broad classification of white used by contemporary demographic surveys such as the U.S. Census and British Census. They state that the term white "in practice, refers to people of European origin with pale complexions". They conclude that white people are a sufficiently heterogeneous group that white should be abandoned as a classification for purposes of epidemiology and health research

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/04/2009 7:48:34 PM


      Israeli's are in fact German, Russian, Polish, British Decent [Europeans-Caucasians]

      The Yehdish language is Broken German..

      Germans understand Yehdish, because it's their language.

      Judaism is a Religion, not a Race...Sorry

      Jewish People are [Caucasians] that Practice or subscribe to the Judaic Religion and it's Rituals.

      Jewish People Illegally & Wrongfully Benefit from being a [Minority] in America, while being a part of the [Majority] in America...

      When they are in fact [Caucasian] the Majority.

      Its Outrageous that this also goes Unchallenged.

      There is no Indentification card, State or Federal indentifying Jewish People as [Jewish] it simply states their Race as [Caucasian]....

      Judaism is a Religion and Not a Race...Sorry

      DNA... says they are [Caucasian] also

      Do know what a Falasha is...

      An Ethiopian, thats right an Ethiopian and they also Live in Israel...

      Did you know that there's also Arab Jews in Israel, Polish Jews, Russian Jews, German Jews and so on an so on...

      Judaism is a Religion, Not a Race..OK

  • Posted By: Ghayyur Khan @ 01/04/2009 9:06:44 PM

    Aaron Miller has written a fine article, but I am afraid it only touches the outlines. The only thing "special" about the US relationship with Israel has been the totally one sided, absolute support politically, economically and militarily that Israel has received from us. The worst thing is that this topic is not even allowed to be discussed properly without name calling and vicious slander heaped on anyone trying to even suggest that there is something wrong with this relationship. The United States I submit has suffered enormously because of this policy. It has lost the moral high ground around the world by keeping this hypocritical policy. It has lost friends and the ability to influence others in following its example. Nobody in his right mind can claim that this relationship has enhanced US strategic interests. Rather, it has harmed them and continues to harm them. The US does not need Israel for any strategic reasons, Israel needed us so very much. I believe their time of their need is also past. Israel has more nuclear bombs than The United Kingdom. Israel is a World power and will soon be telling America to drop dead if and when it pushes it to do something that it does not agree with. Showing sympathy to the Jewish people for the enormous cruelty of the holocaust is one thing, but allowing Israel to create ghettos for millions of people, denying them their basic needs and killing 150 people for every Jew killed is quite another.Most respecfully, I submit that those of my friends in the US advocating blind and total support for all Israeli actions are doing moral wrong and history will judge them to have hurt even the Jewish cause much more than they can realise in the intoxication of their complete control over the US Policy apparatus and media that they enjoy right now.
    May God Almighty allow us to correct ourselves before He does.
    Ghayyur Khan
    aghayyurkhan@netzero.com

  • Posted By: Appman @ 01/04/2009 5:17:39 PM

    It's typical for the Pals - to attack first and cry like sissies when they get attacked.

    Pals and liberals in the USA are the scum of the earth!

    • Posted By: chedet @ 01/04/2009 9:02:43 PM

      Yeah yeah that's what Nazi Germany would have said. Screwed our country then cry when we kill you.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/04/2009 6:24:27 PM

      Source: Thomson Reuters


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      LONDON (Reuters) - Thousands of chanting, banner-waving demonstrators marched in cities across Europe on Saturday to demand a halt to Israeli bombing in the Gaza Strip.

      Protests were held in Britain, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Turkey as the Israeli offensive entered its second week, and before Israel confirmed ground forces had entered Gaza.

      Israeli Arabs held a protest march, Kuwaitis also took to the streets, a day after bigger Middle East rallies, and peaceful pro- and anti-Israel protests were held in New York.

      In Paris, police said more than 21,000 demonstrators, many wearing Palestinian keffiyeh headscarves, marched through the city center chanting slogans such as "Israel murderer!" and waving banners demanding an end to the air attacks.

      Groups of protesters clashed with police. At least three cars were set alight and about 20 overturned by demonstrators as the march ended near some of the biggest department stores in the French capital.

      In London, police said more than 10,000 people staged a march and rally to urge an end to the Israeli offensive against Hamas militants that has killed at least 446 Palestinians.

      Similar protests were planned in some 30 other towns.

      In many cities people waved shoes -- recalling the action of an Iraqi journalist who hurled footwear at U.S. President George W. Bush in Baghdad last month in a symbolic insult.

      British demonstrators threw dozens of shoes into the street as they passed the gated entrance to Downing Street, where Prime Minister Gordon Brown lives, and shouted angrily at a line of 40 police officers on guard there.

      "Come to get your shoes Gordon," one woman shouted as other marchers directed chants of "Shame on you" at Brown.

      A spokesman said Brown had spoken again to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Saturday and was pressing hard for an immediate ceasefire.

      Leading the march were singer Annie Lennox, politicians Tony Benn and George Galloway and comic Alexei Sayle.

      Demonstrators carried Palestinian flags and placards with slogans such as "End the siege on Gaza" and "Stop the massacre."

      Israel says rocket attacks from Gaza by Hamas Islamists must stop before it halts operations, but the attacks continued on Saturday. Four Israelis have been killed by Hamas rockets since the offensive began.

      ANGER AT WESTERN REACTION Continued...ANGER AT WESTERN REACTION Continued...

  • Posted By: Eagles_Heart @ 01/04/2009 5:29:04 PM

    Aaron Miller and those who think he is on top of this issue are TOTALLY IGNORANT of the Arab/Muslim mind set! Miller an authoritty? Heaven save me from such "authority"!

    It is so compelling to shout ???peace at any price??? and shed tears for the Arabs in Gaza. Still, as Santayana said ???... he who does not study the past is doomed to repeat it.??? How many photos of the buses filled with Israeli women and children bombed by Hamas could be run beside a poignant little Arab boy crying his heart out?

    Hamas is dedicated to wiping Israel from the face of the earth. Is that OK with us? Will it stop there? You think? No more World Trade Center? No more 9/11?

    Why do we judge the Muslims by our own values? Why do we not respect that theirs is a culture, developed for millennia, with values world???s apart from ours in the west?

    We are talking mind set here. We are not talking right or wrong; we are talking understanding how they think, and they, the way we think. These opposing values will always be in conflict and must be accepted, lived with, survived. So... at what price is ???peace in the Middle East???? The Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer tells you succinctly in his January 3, 2009 article.

    Those distressed for the Arabs might like to read an account of Palestine from the turn of the 20th Century, ???The Haj,??? authored by Leon Uris, and told from the point-of-view of a likeable, moderate Muslim, called Ishmael.

    There is an old Turkish proverb: ???If a man would live in peace, he must be deaf, dumb, blind, and a martyr.??? But then, the Irish say, ???When you want peace, you have to come out of your corner, spittin??? on your fists, ready to fight fer it!???

    • Posted By: chedet @ 01/04/2009 9:01:23 PM

      You are the ignorant one.

  • Posted By: mainstreet @ 01/04/2009 8:24:51 PM

    To City Troll - If you have something constructive to add to the discussion forum do so. Otherwise refrain from abuse. Thank you.

  • Posted By: Dave Takaki @ 01/04/2009 8:13:08 PM

    I don't care if Israelis are purple with pink spots and Palestinians are orange with green triangles.

    The pox on both houses is earned. And the United States needs a new foreign policy that is slave to neither.

    Dave Takaki Honolulu

  • Posted By: mainstreet @ 01/04/2009 8:06:11 PM

    Ultra nationalism on both sides keeps the problem alive. Mr. Miller is right that Obama must act as a tough and fair mediator as there is a lot at risk. Not only is a nuclear Iran a danger but so too is a committed individual in today's technological society. How far are we from a suicide bomber that carries something more than just explosives? We need a peace process because the consequences for Israel are greater than the current rocket problem. Let's hope that Obama is up to the task and the Middle East participants start to listen.

  • Posted By: kingrajab @ 01/03/2009 8:14:11 PM

    Here we go again, another naive, clueless analysis by a so called "expert". Do you remember 9/11? It is not possible to make peace with self destructive animals who have no valuse for human life. It it not the size of Israel that matters, with or without settlements. These arab animals have a problem with Israel's existance.

    • Posted By: Sachibaat @ 01/04/2009 7:13:02 PM

      Kingrajab from the animal kingdom, Mr. Miller is right there is no other way. I wonder whether Aaron Miller is clueless or it's you; you cannot even spell Middle East properly.

  • Posted By: OOKIE @ 01/04/2009 7:11:40 PM

    Mr. Miller is either claiming and/or insinuating that US support of Israel has been contrary to US interests for many years now. However, Mr. Miller has failed to share with his readers specifically US interests are and how they have been specifically compromised by US support for Israel. Mr. Miller's failure to be specific makes his article just one more lie in his acts of intentional deception.

  • Posted By: newsweekbart @ 01/04/2009 4:07:47 PM

    Isaral makes this comparison all the time through its actions. I know history.

    • Posted By: becolby @ 01/04/2009 6:59:10 PM

      Thats a logical fallacy called begging the question. Israel can be compared to Nazis because Israel acts just like the Nazis. You are trying to prove your point with your point Try again.

  • Posted By: perrin @ 01/04/2009 6:56:05 PM

    When the planes flew into the twin towers, interspersed with the horrific scenes of human suffering and dispair, the Palestinians were dancing in the streets in celebrations that went on for days if not weeks. They chant "Death to America" and will do so until they draw their last breath. This is not what God had in mind. Hama's jab and run tactics of lobbing rockets into Israel to incite them into defending their people will have to stop before any peace can be had. There will also come a time when neither side can look to big brother and plead "help us, look at the mess we've made". That time may be here today. God help all of you and your suffering children. Put your history books down right now and forget about the past mistakes of "All" of you. You will write history from this day forward with your actions. Put the gun down, go home and hug your children. Tell them killing is wrong. Your idealogy and faith is known by God, you don't have to prove it in blood. He will remember those who set the first example of love, and reward you beyond your wildest dreams here, now, today. Anyone can pick up a gun, real courage is putting it down. No matter how bad it gets, the one thing that can never be taken from any of us is dignity and respect for human life. If that's the predictible answer, so be it. It's all we have as humans.

  • Posted By: Bam4evr @ 01/04/2009 6:40:20 PM

    I forgot to answer your one question. If rockets were lobbing where I live I would have Obama talk to the Iran guy that says he wants to wipe Isreal off the map. Obama said he would talk to him no matter what. They say that the rockets that the smart Hamas people put next to the innocent arab people that the isrealis are mean to just because a few rockets are lobbed come from Iran. That is the place that wants to make nukes to make electricity because oil is cheap in thier country and it is better to make elctricity with nukes.

    So I would have Obama talk to him and then there would be peace if the jews don't wreck it by being mean to the arab people who are next to the war stuff that the smart Hamas people put by them.

  • Posted By: perrin @ 01/04/2009 6:33:52 PM

    If anyone has noticed, "Omaar" has been on this comment box all day. and I mean All day. I've checked it and he hasn't let up. does he have no life other than to vent his anger at the world. Kinda sad I think Omaar. By the way, single space lines are a lot easier to read and make a lot more friends.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/04/2009 6:37:58 PM

      This My Day....

      My Time...

      My Computer...

      My Thoughts...

      An My Thoughts...

      You need to "Get A Life"

      Come up with an Original Thought and Response, other than the same Tired A!! Predictable Response...

      Thank You...Good Bye

  • Posted By: joemoye @ 01/04/2009 6:37:03 PM

    What a breath of fresh air. I greatly appreciate this column by Mr. Miller. As to Mr. Sharp's comments: uh, Jews aren't "white people", (unless an ancestor intermarried) they're Semites just like their Palestinian cousins, you know, as in the term, "anti-Semitism". As to Omar's comments: much anger but some truth in his observations.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/04/2009 4:11:59 PM


    Israeli's are in fact German, Russian, Polish, British Decent [Europeans-Caucasians]

    The Yehdish language is Broken German..

    Germans understand Yehdish, because it's their language.

    Judaism is a Religion, not a Race...Sorry

    Jewish People are [Caucasians] that Practice or subscribe to the Judaic Religion and it's Rituals.

    Jewish People Illegally & Wrongfully Benefit from being a [Minority] in America, while being a part of the [Majority] in America...

    When they are in fact [Caucasian] the Majority.

    Its Outrageous that this also goes Unchallenged.

    There is no Indentification card, State or Federal indentifying Jewish People as [Jewish] it simply states their Race as [Caucasian]....

    Judaism is a Religion and Not a Race...Sorry

    DNA... says they are [Caucasian] also

    Do know what a Falasha is...

    An Ethiopian, thats right an Ethiopian and they also Live in Israel...

    Did you know that there's also [Arab Jews] in Israel, Polish Jews, Russian Jews, German Jews and so on an so on...

    Judaism is a Religion, Not a Race..OK

    Had it not been for America, Britain and the collective European Countries, Israel would not Exist.

    • Posted By: Richard Sharpe @ 01/04/2009 6:18:45 PM

      Yes because the hatred of evil Islamic Regimes would have probably have eventually destroyed Israel, I guess from your post it is perfectly acceptable to kill white people if you do so because you do not agree with there religion.

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/04/2009 6:34:45 PM

        White People have been Killing Black Americans for Over 200 Years all in the [Name of Jesus]

        Where's your outrage on that...

        Nowhere to be found.

        White People Killed Off 150 Million Indians, now called Native American, which now, make up only 1% of the American Population, all in the [Name of Jesus]...

        Wheres your outrage over that....

        Nowhere to be found.

        Japanese Americans were Treated like Dogs in Internment camps, where's your Outrage over that....

        Nowhere to be found.

        The KKK Mailing Postcards to Love One's and Friends, of Black Men and Women being Lynched & Burned to Death...

        Where was your Concern about that...

        It was Acceptable and Justified, all in the [Name Of Jesus]


        I don' Follow Christianity, Judaism Nor Islam, they are the Bane of Human Existence and Continue to be, to this very day

        God is Bigger than Man Made..RELIGION and Man Made Race Hate, Justified based on their Religion.

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