Hello,
The time has come to act against the AFSPA (Armed Forces Special Powers Act), a draconian law that enables the armed forces to commit horrific human rights atrocities against the innocent, in almost all the Northeastern states of India since 1958.
Irom Sharmila, a Manipuri woman who has dared to face the might of the Indian state, has been on an indefinite fast for more than 8 years now, demanding the repeal of the AFSPA. She has not taken a morsel or a drop of water and is being force-fed by the government through her nose.
The state however, has ignored her pleas, and has confined her to a hospital bed. Being a woman of immense fortitude and hope, she hasn't given up the fight for justice.
Today however, she is not in good health. Sandeep Pandey, Gandhian and magsaysay award winner, met her in january 2009 and found her to be in a critical state.
Manipuri women are now on a relay fast, to gather the attention of the administration to wake up, and do something about the act, and the atrocities it legitimizes.
We request you to join us in a delegation to the President of India or Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, to present her case and that of the Manipuri women. Please forward to all those, especially women, who would readily join.
A meeting will be held tomorrow to prepare such a delegation, details of which are given below.
DATE: TOMORROW, 2nd Feb. 2009
TIME: 5-6 pm
VENUE: Coffee House, Mohan Singh Palace, opp. PVR Rivoli, Baba Kharag Singh marg
Warm regards,
--Sandeep Pandey
--Nirmala Sharma
Contact:
Faizal Khan : +91 9968828230
Gurvinder Singh : +91 9810220431
Radha Kapuria: + 91 9871334266
‘It Is Never Over, Never Escaped’
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Hello,
The time has come to act against the AFSPA (Armed Forces Special Powers Act), a draconian law that enables the armed forces to commit horrific human rights atrocities against the innocent, in almost all the Northeastern states of India since 1958.
Irom Sharmila, a Manipuri woman who has dared to face the might of the Indian state, has been on an indefinite fast for more than 8 years now, demanding the repeal of the AFSPA. She has not taken a morsel or a drop of water and is being force-fed by the government through her nose.
The state however, has ignored her pleas, and has confined her to a hospital bed. Being a woman of immense fortitude and hope, she hasn't given up the fight for justice.
Today however, she is not in good health. Sandeep Pandey, Gandhian and magsaysay award winner, met her in january 2009 and found her to be in a critical state.
Manipuri women are now on a relay fast, to gather the attention of the administration to wake up, and do something about the act, and the atrocities it legitimizes.
We request you to join us in a delegation to the President of India or Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, to present her case and that of the Manipuri women. Please forward to all those, especially women, who would readily join.
A meeting will be held tomorrow to prepare such a delegation, details of which are given below.
DATE: TOMORROW, 2nd Feb. 2009
TIME: 5-6 pm
VENUE: Coffee House, Mohan Singh Palace, opp. PVR Rivoli, Baba Kharag Singh marg
Warm regards,
--Sandeep Pandey
--Nirmala Sharma
Contact:
Faizal Khan : +91 9968828230
Gurvinder Singh : +91 9810220431
Radha Kapuria: + 91 9871334266
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Posted By: Marazi @ 02/01/2009 6:50:20 AM
we will never allow pubs in Kashmir, regarding girls education, this year in kashmir all 20 first postions were taken by girls, st josephs baramula got first and 2nd postion, st josephs got 5th postition also, sopore girls school got 8the position.
regarding afganistan and swat, they have tribal culture which has nothing go do with islam.
this culture is same like in rajistan and backward villages of UP or MP.
in pak nor in bangladesh - jamat islami has neve won any election
but in india half of india is fundamentalists. pak still dont have a person like bal thakray who gives a call and all mumbai is closed, pak doest have situation like india were UP wala have no plaacein mumbai, in 1965 kerela walas ere sent off by bal thackray.
regarding ur comming to kashmir, we wellcome you any time, we have this time lacs of biharis in kashmir, lot of UP wala, nobody touches them. they are doing labour jobs and technical jobs in kashmir.
we have all hair dressers from UP in kashmir. nowadsays we have even beggers from UP , Bihar and bengal.
I myself gave job to lot of bengalis during harvest season, the did good job.
Any ways today was a good sun shine and i did a good riding on my horse, tomorrow will go to town and buy some computer related things
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Posted By: Salim @ 01/30/2009 7:47:25 AM
<<In 1018 AD, Mahmud reached Buland Shahar and the local ruler Hardatt surrendered before him and embraced Islam along with his 10, 000 people. When Mahmud reached Mathura, the local residents and soldiers ran away without giving a battle. Same happened in Vrindavan. In January 1019, Mahmud attacked Kannauj. The King of Kannauj Rajpal did not dare to oppose him. Mahmud got lots of money, slaves and elephants from Kannauj.
In 1192, Mohammad Gauri defeated Prithavi Raj Chauhan and killed him. There were 1, 20, 000 armymen in Gauri's army. On the other hand, there were 2, 00, 000 horsemen, 3, 000 elephants in Prithavi's army.
In 1197, Mohammad Gauri's general Mohammad Bin Qasim Bakhitiyar attacked Bihar and Bengal along with only 18 horsemen and captured them. He killed thousands of Budhists there in Udandpur.>>
That is the actual problem see you kinda people preach that Muslims can do this again while Dayanand type of people preach Hindu shall take revenge of all these acts. Innocent people got stuck in cross fire.
Anyway you failed to show that you are ready to any constructive argument. All the times you are avoiding questions and throwing up new garbage. A typical fellow who does not have anything credible to say but false proud will not let them concede this.
manglore or maharastara issue. Again you picked up a topic where you have nothing much to say. Do you suggest pubs will be allowed under Sharia law what you wanted for Kashmir or is it allowed in any other Muslim country (I know exceptions are there. Let see if you can find them). Girls will be getting their rights? This is still better that people are speaking against all this on the face of these persons(Raj Thakray or Ram Muthalik). Now tell me is it possible to confront these type of people in Pakistan, take example of Swat in Pakistan, Girl schools are getting bombed. Same was the case in Kashmir when militancy was on peak. Did you raise a hand in protest?-
Posted By: Marazi @ 01/31/2009 3:27:11 PM
we will never allow pubs in Kashmir, regarding girls education, this year in kashmir all 20 first postions were taken by girls, st josephs baramula got first and 2nd postion, st josephs got 5th postition also, sopore girls school got 8the position.
regarding afganistan and swat, they have tribal culture which has nothing go do with islam.
this culture is same like in rajistan and backward villages of UP or MP.
in pak nor in bangladesh - jamat islami has neve won any election
but in india half of india is fundamentalists. pak still dont have a person like bal thakray who gives a call and all mumbai is closed, pak doest have situation like india were UP wala have no plaacein mumbai, in 1965 kerela walas ere sent off by bal thackray.
regarding ur comming to kashmir, we wellcome you any time, we have this time lacs of biharis in kashmir, lot of UP wala, nobody touches them. they are doing labour jobs and technical jobs in kashmir.
we have all hair dressers from UP in kashmir. nowadsays we have even beggers from UP , Bihar and bengal.
I myself gave job to lot of bengalis during harvest season, the did good job.
Any ways today was a good sun shine and i did a good riding on my horse, tomorrow will go to town and buy some computer related things
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Posted By: Salim @ 01/31/2009 12:48:20 PM
Hmmm no answer to the long pending questions but again some irrelevant data. Nothu Ram Godse, Hindu freedom fighter. Great. He was one of you type only, full of hatred.
Why do you not try to get answers for some of questions pending on you? You have enough time as you yourself said till March you can write.
As far as Gandhi love story concerned, I am not fan Gandhi and his policies but I do not give a damn about his personal life. No one is perfect in the entire world. Everyone has some weak points; give an example in entire world of a person who is not having something which is not good.
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/30/2009 7:01:44 AM
In manglore ( south india) sri ram sena activists thrashed girls and pulled their hair and draged them -- why -- bez they were having a good time at a pub.
in maharastara raj tharckrays goondas came and attacked the children celebrating indias republic day-- why bez they were singing in hindi
this is a state of tolerance in india-- how can minoritis live there
i am not talking about dalits , chiristins and mulsims
dalits live a life of insect in india
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Posted By: Bharat kashmiri @ 01/30/2009 12:50:06 AM
This is a news report from TOI .....Eating out of Indian hans and still crying foul ..
HYDERABAD, 29 Jan 2009: (TOI reeport)
They are like the migratory birds. They come to Hyderabad every winter, collect alms and return home. They are Kashmiri Muslims.
"Life in Kashmir is already difficult. It becomes more so for the poor like us during the winter. Our people migrate to various cities in India during this time. The people of Hyderabad are very hospitable and generous. Some of us sell handicraft items and others live on charity," says a young Kashmiri who did not wish to give his name.
When the Kashmiris come, the police and intelligence agencies are on alert. They check out every individual and keep strict vigil on the two camps in the Old City where about 300 families stay. Their ID papers are also sent for verification to Jammu and Kashmir police.
"They come to the city every year. Most of them are from Baramullah and Anantanag districts of Kashmir. So far there has been no untoward incident in the area where they are camped," Chandrayangutta police station inspector Syed Fayaz said.
The Kashmiris have been coming to Hyderabad for about 10 years now. The majority of them stay near Falaknuma railway tracks by setting up tents and shacks on the open government plots. Inspector of Chhatrinaka police station S Sadaiah said that these Kashmiris approach people, particularly the rich, for help. Only some of them are involved in making handicrafts.
Analysts believe that these Kashmiris select Hyderabad because of three main reasons. They feel safe here, the weather is moderate and the economy is good. "Though they don't claim to be beggars but they approach prosperous looking people on roads, knock at the doors and sit at the mosques seeking help. People do help them out," an analyst said.
On Wednesday a group of four Kashmiris, three of them women, were rounded up by the Uppal police on a complaint lodged by the residents of Sri Sai Apartments. The residents found the movement of Kashmiris in that area suspicious and alerted the police. "We checked them out. They were carrying ID paper issued by Chandrayangutta police station. We handed them over to Chandrayangutta PS," Uppal PS Inspector B Bhaskar told TOI.
Owing to their peculiar situation, none of the NGOs comes forward to take up their livelihood issues. "We fear there could be too many complications in establishing contacts with them. What if some militant element sneaks in? That is the reason why NGOs keep away from them," an NGO representative said-
Posted By: Marazi @ 01/30/2009 2:57:23 AM
This reporter must be kashmiri bata, by the way duriing economic blockade of kashmir by hindu terrorists of jammu and supported by kashmiri pandiths. we from our village sent 10 trucks of food stuff, which contained vegetables, pulses fruits and rice. i sent two trucks to srinagar
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/30/2009 2:50:20 AM
In 1018 AD, Mahmud reached Buland Shahar and the local ruler Hardatt surrendered before him and embraced Islam along with his 10, 000 people. When Mahmud reached Mathura, the local residents and soldiers ran away without giving a battle. Same happened in Vrindavan. In January 1019, Mahmud attacked Kannauj. The King of Kannauj Rajpal did not dare to oppose him. Mahmud got lots of money, slaves and elephants from Kannauj.
In 1192, Mohammad Gauri defeated Prithavi Raj Chauhan and killed him. There were 1, 20, 000 armymen in Gauri's army. On the other hand, there were 2, 00, 000 horsemen, 3, 000 elephants in Prithavi's army.
In 1197, Mohammad Gauri's general Mohammad Bin Qasim Bakhitiyar attacked Bihar and Bengal along with only 18 horsemen and captured them. He killed thousands of Budhists there in Udandpur.
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Posted By: Salim @ 01/30/2009 1:47:22 AM
<<Sikandar had 15, 000 armymen and King Porus had 33, 000 armymen, even then Porus was defeated by Sikandar.>>
Sikandar defeated Darius(Persia) army of 200000 with army of 40000 only.
But during the battle with Puru (or Porus) Sikandar had double of army then Puru. Then too he had very tough time and this forced him to abandon his mission. I think you know that Puru???s was a small kingdom in comparison of others India during that time.
<< In 1527, Babur attacked Rajput warrior Rana Sanga. Babur had 30, 000 soldeirs. Rana Sanga had 2, 01, 000 soldeirs and 1, 000 elephants. Even then, Rana Sanga was defeated and he ran away.>>
Ibrahim Lodhi had army of 200000 and Babur just had 12000. What happen to Lodhi? Reason was better firepower Babur had my dear otherwise Babur had not lost his own state of Khurasan and not had to wander place to place before reaching India.
<<When Sikandar attacked India, Chandragupt Morya gave him a beautiful girl, a
philosopher and some other articles as 'gifts'.>>
Chandragupt either was not a king by the time Sikandar attacked or very petty king. He was the same who afterwards build very powerful kingdom and defeated Sikander satrap of Persia named Seleucus. He ruled area comprised of Bengal and Assam in the East, to Afghanistan and Baluchistan in the West, to Kashmir and Nepal in the North and to the Deccan Plateau in the South
<< Battle of 'Trayin' in 1192 AD, it was unreligious for a Hindu to take food without taking bath and worshiping his god, so when Mohammad Gauri attacked Prithvi Raj's (Hindu) army suddenly in early morning, they were not able to fight with empty stomachs for long>>
What an act of bravery and example of great morale behavior by same Gauri who was defeated one year before by same Prithvi Raj. Also great morale example were set by Jahangir, Shahjahan and Aurangjab by prisioning their respective fathers and killing brothers. There are lot more moral boosting examples available everywhere including in old Arab world. Come-on politics was always and is like this only, stop seeing this through the prism of Muslim-Hindu religion.
<< this history was taught to me by your religious leader swami dayanad who is under arrest now in connection with the bomb blasts in malegaon and train blast (samjota express), he was working with kashmiri pandiths and successfuly did the economic blockade of Kashmir>>
You type and Dayanand type of people are complementary to each other and nothing in themselve if other is not present. I mean two face of same coin. Have you ever heard what he says? He quotes the acts of Islamic terrorists not only modern days but talks about centuries old terrorists like Ghaznavi, Guari, Timur, Babur, Aurangjeb etc and uses this to deal the people emotionally in very same way what Islamists do when they put forward the view of Islam in danger. You did not talk about lots of other blasts happen in Kashmir and else where in
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/29/2009 11:09:01 AM
mr bharat kumar this history was taught to me by your religious leader swami dayanad who is under arrest now in connection with the bomb blasts in malegaon and train blast (samjota express), he was working with kashmiri pandiths and successfuly did the economic blockade of kashmir
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Posted By: Bharat kashmiri @ 01/30/2009 1:13:31 AM
So you also have links with Dayanad Panday ............
You seem to know everybody personally .How many of your relatives have attended arms training in pakistani terror camps ?
Can you swear that you have neve seen a AK47 and held it .
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Posted By: DevSingh @ 01/30/2009 12:11:48 AM
I do not know whether KPs want to learn about history or not but definitely I do and need some help regarding that. Seems like you can help me and I will be grateful to you for that.
Did Upanishad says Ashoka killed 6 million people or any of the quotes you gave have hidden meaning of that sort? You also did not answer the question regarding that time Indian population and place of massacre of 6 million people.
So Ashoka send Buddhist monks to Kashmir and those monks later converted to Brahmanism and became KPs? Great, and what faith Kashmir native population followed that time?
Brahmins eating fish, checkout coastal area and eating habits of peoples. Fish is basic food their. See the followers of Buddhism in china and like countries, they will each whatever they can find. But in Buddhism love to every living being is one of the most important point. Inclusion of food types in religion is altogether different points. So better discuss that under new thread on religion.
If you want to discuss religion then better start a new thread. We can discuss all the religions to length.
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/29/2009 11:09:58 AM
Dear KP,s i will be writting upto march , after that i will be busy in my farming activities.
Comming back to Hinduism, this religion is responsible for Indian,s defeats. Starting from Alexandra and until Bahadur shah zaffar, india has not achieved even single victory.
read following
In 1527, babur attacked Rajput warrior Rana Sanga. Babur had 30, 000 soldeirs. Rana Sanga had 2, 01, 000 soldeirs and 1, 000 elephants. Even then, Rana Sanga was defeated and he ran away.
Now see morality of Hindus--
Krishan encouraged Yudhishthira to tell a lie to kill Dronacharya. Bhagwan Ram killed Bali against the rules. Brahman Pushyamitra killed his own king Brihthrath. King Devbhoomi was killed by his minister Vasudeva. The Hindu queen poisoned his husband King Bhatti Rai of 'Uchch'. When Sikandar attacked India, Chandragupt Morya gave him a beautiful girl, a philosopher and some other articles as 'gifts'. Rana Sanga himself invited Babur to attack India and its capital Delhi
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Posted By: Bharat kashmiri @ 01/29/2009 7:18:44 AM
marazai . seems u have brushed up ur history from the imam of your nearby mosque with all the army records of Porous ans alexander .Well that was long long ago .How many of your relatives have received training from Pakistani camps .This is the story of last 30 years .......
Donot give a lecture on morality .........
Who killed Imam Hussain and how ?How moral is the tragedy of Karbala?
To take pride in killing of innocent lives is the way of immoral people.
To kill one's enemy is one's Dharma
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/29/2009 7:10:37 AM
In manglore ( south india) sri ram sena activists thrashed girls and pulled their hair and draged them -- why -- bez they were having a good time at a pub.
in maharastara raj tharckrays goondas came and attacked the children celebrating indias republic day-- why bez they were singing in hindi
this is a state of tolerance in india-- how can minoritis live there
i am not talking about dalits , chiristins and mulsims
dalits live a life of insect in india
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/29/2009 6:59:08 AM
For all the defeats to Hindues what is the reason, the reason is their Religion read follwoing=====
Hindu religion is responsible for all the defeats of Hindus. Battle of 'Trayin' in 1192 AD, it was unreligious for a Hindu to take food without taking bath and worshiping his god, so when Mohammad Gauri attacked Prithvi Raj's (Hindu) army suddenly in early morning, they were not able to fight with empty stomachs for long. Thus, Hindu religion is responsible for this defeat. The untouchability is another reason for Hindus' defeat, Uses of elephants in wars, blind faith in religion etc were other reasons for Hindus' defeats.
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/29/2009 6:55:12 AM
Did Hindues ever fought with bravery against invaders the answer in big NO-- read this-----
Sikandar attacked India in 327 BC, the King of 'Takshila' Raja Ambhi sent an envoy to Sikandar and surrendered before him.
Sikandar had 15, 000 armymen and King Porus had 33, 000 armymen, even then Porus was defeated by Sikandar.
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Posted By: Marazi @ 01/29/2009 6:52:24 AM
Dear KP,s i will be writting upto march , after that i will be busy in my farming activities.
Comming back to Hinduism, this religion is responsible for Indian,s defeats. Starting from Alexandra and until Bahadur shah zaffar, india has not achieved even single victory.
read following
In 1527, babur attacked Rajput warrior Rana Sanga. Babur had 30, 000 soldeirs. Rana Sanga had 2, 01, 000 soldeirs and 1, 000 elephants. Even then, Rana Sanga was defeated and he ran away.
Now see morality of Hindus--
Krishan encouraged Yudhishthira to tell a lie to kill Dronacharya. Bhagwan Ram killed Bali against the rules. Brahman Pushyamitra killed his own king Brihthrath. King Devbhoomi was killed by his minister Vasudeva. The Hindu queen poisoned his husband King Bhatti Rai of 'Uchch'. When Sikandar attacked India, Chandragupt Morya gave him a beautiful girl, a philosopher and some other articles as 'gifts'. Rana Sanga himself invited Babur to attack India and its capital Delhi
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Posted By: Bharat kashmiri @ 01/29/2009 2:28:32 AM
Look at Marazi , Calling names to our Hindu Gods !!And reading hindu scriptures-Yajurveda and Upanishads . Hope it doesnot make him guilty of apostasy as per isllam .
God has willed that Marazai read our scriptures and know more about our thousands of gods to get a better understanding of life .Even if hisr downloaded translations may not be closer to the actual meaning but he is still reading them .Pls keep on reading and understanding them .He should try teach them to his neighbours and muslim friend also ,So that they get more tolerant and learn to live with harmony.
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Posted By: Bharat kashmiri @ 01/29/2009 2:28:21 AM
Look at Marazi , Calling names to our Hindu Gods !!And reading hindu scriptures-Yajurveda and Upanishads . Hope it doesnot make him guilty of apostasy as per isllam .
God has willed that Marazai read our scriptures and know more about our thousands of gods to get a better understanding of life .Even if hisr downloaded translations may not be closer to the actual meaning but he is still reading them .Pls keep on reading and understanding them .He should try teach them to his neighbours and muslim friend also ,So that they get more tolerant and learn to live with harmony.
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Posted By: Bharat kashmiri @ 01/29/2009 2:28:11 AM
Look at Marazi , Calling names to our Hindu Gods !!And reading hindu scriptures-Yajurveda and Upanishads . Hope it doesnot make him guilty of apostasy as per isllam .
God has willed that Marazai read our scriptures and know more about our thousands of gods to get a better understanding of life .Even if hisr downloaded translations may not be closer to the actual meaning but he is still reading them .Pls keep on reading and understanding them .He should try teach them to his neighbours and muslim friend also ,So that they get more tolerant and learn to live with harmony.
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