‘It Is Never Over, Never Escaped’

Look at Marazi , Calling names to our Hindu Gods !!And reading hindu scriptures-Yajurveda and Upanishads . Hope it doesnot make him guilty of apostasy as per isllam .
God has willed that Marazai read our scriptures and know more about our thousands of gods to get a better understanding of life .Even if hisr downloaded translations may not be closer to the actual meaning but he is still reading them .Pls keep on reading and understanding them .He should try teach them to his neighbours and muslim friend also ,So that they get more tolerant and learn to live with harmony.

Look at Marazi , Calling names to our Hindu Gods !!And reading hindu scriptures-Yajurveda and Upanishads . Hope it doesnot make him guilty of apostasy as per isllam .
God has willed that Marazai read our scriptures and know more about our thousands of gods to get a better understanding of life .Even if hisr downloaded translations may not be closer to the actual meaning but he is still reading them .Pls keep on reading and understanding them .He should try teach them to his neighbours and muslim friend also ,So that they get more tolerant and learn to live with harmony.

A discussion about a young girl's expereince with terrorism in kashmir has come down to nonsensical babbling about mythical figures and polytheism, as if any of that explains or justifies what the terrorists of kashmir did to the KPs,

Marazi expects to convince anyone that hindus are terrorists by quoting selectively from the upanishads?


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Any ways my cows are OK now, i bought a vet from the near town and he treated them well, the medicine given by our village quake was very dangerous

KP.s from today let me teach you guys Hindu religion
Common Concept of God in Hinduism:

Hinduism is commonly perceived as a polytheistic religion. Indeed, most Hindus would attest to this, by professing belief in multiple Gods. While some Hindus believe in the existence of three gods, some believe in thousands of gods, and some others in thirty three crore i.e. 330 million Gods. However, learned Hindus, who are well versed in their scriptures, insist that a Hindu should believe in and worship only one God.

The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus??? belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!

as a hindu he killed 6 million people and then became buddist. KP's plz referesh ur history knowledge, there was a biggest buddist conference held in kashmir and with ashoka many buddist came , these buddists are todays KPs , they came here and saw a good weahter and liked the place and setteled here, later this popoulation became todays 1 lac kp,s, now u are back to ur roots. many battas came from goa, in goa people like to eat lot of fish, that is why kps have festival in which they cook fish, other wise any brahiman in inida doest eat even egg.
Ashoka was a biggest terrorist as he killed millions of peple
the all time biggest terrorist was hanuman, he burned all srilanka and killed whole population
the other terrorist who favaurite in mumbai is shivaji the rat . he was a dacoit and used to loot karavans in nasik area after looting he used to hide in a cave tht is why he is called shivaji the rat...

I am sorry to say that my history is a bit weak and need some help regarding followings points:
1. Ashoka killed 6 million people
2. Ashoka send KPs to Kashmir
Point 1:
Where and when Ashoka killed 6 million people? In Kashmir or Kalinga? What was the total population of India by that time? What all I learnt about Ashoka is that following:
- He was the only king who denounced violence after a victory. Isn???t it true and give me another example like this.
- He became Buddhist after that and if I am right during those times Buddhism was rival to Brahmanism.
- Most of India including present day Kashmir came under influence of Buddhism
- Not only India but Buddhism spread out of India in direction of central Asia, Srilanka and china also.

Point 2:
Ashoka send KPs to Kashmir but as said above Ashoka was follower of Buddhism which was rival of Brahmanism so he must have send Buddhist monk not Brahmins.

I might be wrong and will appreciate if someone can help me regarding above points

Its interesting to see Marazi using ethnic slurs againts KPs and expressing hatred for India while using internet service provided by the Government of India.

Not to mention the funny confusion in his mind. One day he proclaims the great budhist heritage that includes Ashoka, the next day he babbles about about Ashoka killing 6 million people. I don't know which monkey's backside he pulled that number from. The historical figure for the battle of Kalinga is said to be 100,000. Kashmiris fiddling with the facts again! Not to mention that the time of the arrival of KPs in Kashmir in Ashoka's time, if they did, is not germaine at all to the ethnic cleansings of KPs that was committed by the islamic terrorists of Kashmir.

Marazi is tactfully avoiding what he and many like him believe, which is that it is right and proper for muslims to convert non-muslims to Islam by force and to perscute and terrorize and punish those who resist conversion to Islam, that they are satisfied with whatever muslims have done over the centuries, right up to the present day, to persecute the Kashmiri Hindus to the point of converting them or forcing their exile.

He doesn't want to acknowledge all that, so instead he tried to taint KPs with slur-laden gibberish about a king whose been dead for 2200 years.

Hi Aarti ,
Thanks for such a vivid account . Reading through your article was like a therapy .I was relieved that such kind of nightmares is not my personal problem but was part of lives of us all .
I have always known you as an intelligent and out spoken person ,since your college days in Jammu in 1995.
Recenty I told my father about your article in News week . he was very happy and said ,"Aarti is a very intelligent girl,GOD bless her " .
People might think that you are not in Purkhoo camp or are living in your cosy apartment in US but I know the hardships you or for that matter we all faced when we did our schooling and the college in Jammu ...Those post 1989 years ....being a adolscent girl in hostile cirmustances ........Thanks for telling the world about our wounds !! You have done what no senior journalist has been able to do .GOD Bless .
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Ufff this time it is very cold in our village in North kashmir, i am in my cow shed as my two cows are sick. I am experiementing how cows respond to music, this time my i have a song raj begum going on , on my laptop and cow is very calm and my servant is milking her and we expect some extra milk today.
i wanted to chage the topic as we had enough of arguments and counter arguments.
by the way i am a typical zamindar villager, i have apple orchads , rice fields and lot of cows, sheep and i have two horses also, one is for my personal riding and other we use for redaa to ferry the stuff from fields to our house.
internet taught me lot about the farming and agriculture.

All the kashmiri muslims have to do is acknowledge that amidst the tragedy of Kashmir, is also the tragedy of KPs.

but they can't and won't do it. all they want to do is cry and bitch and whine and complain about what happened to them, and tell filthy lies about other people.

Pathetic.

Whether a KP lived in Teki pora lolab or devar or dragmulla he will get message from the KP of shopian or kulgam as all KP were working in post offices and they have a good communication system.Also army has good wireless systemm and they are present in whole valley so it was easy for the governer jagmohan to communicate and tell pandiths to leave kashmir

Remembering Handwara carnage:-
Nineteen years after this frontier district witnessed one of the worst massacres in the history of Kashmir, no memorial has been built in the memory of 21 unarmed protesters who were killed in cold blood by the paramilitary BSF troopers on January 25, 1990.
??? Instead of allowing us to construct a memorial where the carnage took place, authorities constructed a bunker there to add insult to our injuries,??? said one the survivors. ???Their memorial should be built in the main Chowk so that our future generations don???t forget the history,??? he added.

sahab:After skimming through most of the comments which very much focus on blame game .I really admire Arti Tiku for narrating her nightmare, which gives us an idea about the tragedy and aftermath of tragedy faced by kashmiri Pandiths who were forced to leave their home land . Not to forget the biggest role to mastermind this exodus goes to the Indian state. Because they first failed to protect this community ,and second masterminded their exodus .I don???t say that some Muslim extremist which worked on the behest of Pakistan didn???t threatening some families to leave their homes ,but I always have one question which I didn???t get answer so far . If we recall the communication system of Kashmir in 1989, there were no telephone, mobiles, and other means of fast communication in whole of Kashmir. If my Hindu brothers have any idea of kashmiri geography I want to ask one question how could a Pandith family from a far-flung village in Anathnag ,Kulgam ,Shopian ,communicate with a family in the remotest village Lolab , chokibal Dedikot in Kupwara district who left Kashmir in the same night and same time .As we know in the evening all the Pandith families where in their homes but in the next morning all of them had migrated . If it was not supported and masterminded by the government how it could have happen. Let me come to the second question about the Pandith exodus , As already somebody has quoted NDTV which says only 209 pandith have been killed in Kashmiri so far . Tragedy is a tragedy; killing one person is killing whole humanity that is what we Muslims have been taught. So we can not justify the killing of 209 Pandiths, irrespective of the size of their population. what I want to mention here which I believe is important ; according this police report which mentions out of 209 pandiths kills ,150 have been killed by unidentified gunman . So we don???t have any idea who killed most of them, may be Police and army who wanted them to leave, so that they can easily start killing innocent kashmiri Muslims ,which they later succeeded to do . It is worth to mention here, Jammu and Kashmir police is headed by a Kashmir pandith .so our padith brothers should not have any doubt on the report.

Let me go back to Aarti???s nightmare ,I believe Aarti is fortunate enough who hails from elite family and has a luxury to share her nightmares through Newsweek ,Unlike thousands of ill fated kashmiri women who have been raped , molested ,tortured ,not forget about mothers of disappeared persons ,who always have nightmares about their sons who have been disappeared by Indian Army .At the same time Aarti lives in US, not in Purkhu camp in Jammu so she wont be able to narrate the story of these families who are living in the tin Huts . Aarti might have visited these camps ,so did I ,but when u live their then only u can feel it .I have lived in Kashmir so I can understand the tale of people living in conflict ,unlike Aarti who left Kashmir in 1990???s and had a luxury to live freely .Though I have seen hundreds of Pandith website creating rhetoric against Muslims , but I never feel to counter them ,though it hurts . but then I recall secularistic character of my Country(Kashmir) ,and proudly feel I don???t need certificate for my secularistic character . Had we not been secular, Pandith would have been massacred in 1947, when Muslims in whole of India were butchered by Hindu extremist .The first Pandith Judge whom Aarti mentions in her article was killed by militants ,because he sanctioned death sentence to the father of kahsmiri resistance movement leader Maqboo Bhat , but hi family never left Kashmir ,unlike Aarti , they were not killed ..that is not the only family there are thousand of pandith families who still live with harmony in Kashmir .yes people from Panun Kashmir (so called representative of pandiths) and other elite sections of pandith community may not like to come back to kashmir , as they get scholarships and other benefits. I would request all the people from pandith community to come back to your homeland, spreading hatred against each other will not help anybodies cause.