‘It Is Never Over, Never Escaped’

OBAMA is seen as hero in Kashmir, kashmiri youth are very happy with Obams and look forward that he will put pressure on india to leave its occupation on kashmir and implement the UN resultuions so that thre is peace in south asia.
Not only should india leave kashmir but other states who are fighting for freedom, like Nagaland, Assam, Punjab, Mizoram , Tamil Nadu.
Punjabis are asking for khalistan, tamils are asking for dravidanadu, north eastern states were free upto recently and are now undier indian occupation forcibly, Arunachal pradesh which is part of china are also struggling to free itself from india and merge with china

CIA and Mi5 are these days investigating the hindu terror, hindus incuding kashmiri pandith hindus who live in USA and UK are sending money to hindu terror groups in India. Thes terror groups kill christian minority in india, couple of months back they killed hundreads of christians in orissa ( india state), in same state once hindu terrorists burnt alive Grahm stains , his wife and his two kids. he was a simple missionary who was helping indians and doing social work in the village of orissa, the hindu terrorist Dara singh has still not beem sentenced to death.
Now only are kashmiri pandiths involved in creating disturbance in india but they are in nexus with indian army officials and hindu fundamantalist religious seers who are involoved and infact many have been jailed also in connection with spreading terror and killing minoritis like CHRISTIANS and Muslims in india

David Milliband and Obams US envoy stress resulution of K issue..

British foreign secretary David Miliband Friday stressed holding of intensive dialogue towards resolution of the Kashmir issue.

United States ambassador-designate to the United Nations Susan Rice identified Kashmir as one of the hot spots and bracketed it with conflict-torn regions
Miliband for intensive dialogue to resolve K- issue

Dear KP's dont avoid this question answer this
Dear kashmiri pandits who do u think is our real representative of kashmir
is it NC, , PDP,JKLF, HM, YASEEN MALIK, SAJJAD LONE, OMAR ABDULLAH, MEHBOOBA MUFTI OR GEELANI SAHIB,

Dear Arti,
Thanks for the article.. I relived my life story through your words.. Running away from the valley in the night, living at a place full of scorpions and snakes.. walking miles to take a bath.. and this was just bcos of some fanatics back in the kashmir valley who now are thinking about human rights.. What they dont understand is, they will reap what they sow..
If they are getting killed in thousands thats bcos they are on a killing spree too...
Ritu

I want to say to all the people who have objection to Aarti???s anguished recollection of childhood terror that, has she been from the other side of the story, by now she would have blown herself up with a dozen more innocent people to make her point. So it???s not surprising to see the reaction of fundamentalists to what came out merely from a pen.

This also reminds me that all those KP???s who were terrorized by religious jihadi???s and forcibly evacuated from their home, NEVER ever reacted by violence but quietly accepted their fate since their religion and culture does not teaches them violence. Because India has never invaded any other states sovereignty and has never been violent and that???s why even the most religious KPs think that the only way to respond to violence is by their own good karma. I hope this message goes across the section and also across the border to those who resort to violence and religion to solve the problem of statehood.

I will not be surprised if in future all these displaced KP???s peacefully generate enough sympathy and diplomatic and financial support to take their home back rather than bombing and killing innocent people and using religion to solve the problem of homeland.

And yes, her question still remains unanswered by these people, ???Will it is ever be over????

Whether the evolution of identity with times and migration is something to be derided or celebrated is a valid discussion, but whether it is real or not, is not.

Delhi pre and most migration had a very different culture and identiy. Punjab pre and post the migration of non punjabis and exodus of punjabis is different. Bombay is a rich melange of all the identities that flow into it.

KPs have indeed lost their kashmiryat. their children have largely indianized and are very different and unkashmiri like compared to their parents. in a generations, the KPs will have disappeared entirely.

Identities are real. whether they are improperly used by politicians for poltical gain and to what extent they drive disunity is a very valid discussion.

I feel sad for the KPs. Something that was valuable has been lost and will not be regained.

Kashmiriyat, hmmm. Another propaganda of greedy politicians. Kashmiriyat, Marathiyat and blah-blah, unfortunately we have lot of them, see Raj Thakrey.

There people from around the India in Panjab, had it lost its identity? Its Panjabiat? Same is the case with Karnataka, West Bengal, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh. How moany of these states has lost their identity? Best example Delhi, almost 60% population is from outside but when you around and talk to any person who is staying there for some time will be using half of the Delhi specific Hindi accent

I will repeat: Kashmir will not get independence. If the kashmiris will not stop fighting for independence, then they are the ones who choose to continue the conflict, despite all its pain and consequences. They should stop whining and complaining about the consequences of a war they started and they refuse to end.

THe only way the Indian armed forces are going to leave kashmir is if kashmiris choose to put down their guns. Thats it.

If you are not going to do that, nothing else matters. Nobody cares about the KPs. Nobody cares what the Indian army does. It doesn't matter how many died, were tortured, disappeared. None of that will change the realities on the ground.

What kashmiris want is that they should get independence without winning the war of independence that they started.

Not gonna happen.

Geelani, who shouted 'Azadi Bara-e-Islam'. Hmmm.

Handful of greedy politicians with the help of fanatics, playing with public emotions and causing great destruction to communities as well as country.

A country does not/can not progress on the basis of religion, cast or creed but when every community work together for a common goal. Take any example, Arab countries, having one of the most precious mineral of the world. Are they developed countries? Take away petroleum from them and they are beggar very next moment, which is very soon going to happen anyway. Now see Japan, what they had, see today what they do not have? America, China? If religion, cast or creed had been basis of development then communist states like China or Russia had been poorest of the world, where there is no religion, cast or creed matters.

Religion must not be mingled with state and whomsoever tried this caused a devastating effect on country. Religion gives boost to its leader but flattens country. Pakistan is nearest example; fanatics are forcing a 1300-year-old way of life. Burning school and every other good thing. This is giving boost to their leader but what is going to happen to community/country?

Marazi here is trying to spin and lie on behalf kashmiri muslims, any lie, any false argument will do for them. After the muslims drove the KPs out of Kashmir, Marazi is now proud and scornful of their exile andr their loss of identity,

Well, Mr Marazi and those kashmiri muslims who think like him deserve no different. There is no reason for anyone to care about Kashmiryat, kashmiri sentiments, identity. They don't deserve any consideration that they are unable to have for other people.

Marazi and other muslims can never explain how it is that virtually around the globe, from kashmir to pakistan to lebanon, the non muslim populations have declined so hugely. They don't address the question because for them it is right and proper that non muslims should be persecuted and forced into exile if they do not convert. The intolerance of muslims towards non-muslims is never addressed, but they scream day and night about the persecution of muslims.

ON top of that, Kashmiri muslims don't even realize that they get to preserve their identity in Kashmir because India allowed them to prevent the migration of non-kashmiris into J&K. Otherwise, everybody from punjabis to biharis to gujaratis to UPites would have flooded into Kashmir, bought land and property there, set up businesses, and that would have been the end of Kashmiryat. THey don't realize that if Kashmir were to join Pakistan, they would get no such protection and they would get flooeded with Punjabis and Sindhis.

And don't give me any nonsense about them being fellow muslims. Kashmiris have no allegiance or sympathy with the non-kashmiri muslims of J&K, such as those of the poonch-rajori region or the kargil region, never mind muslims from the rest of India. Curious that Kashmiris should have love for the muslims of pakistan but not the muslims of India.

Well, no matter. the reality of the present day world is that the hey day of Islam is 4 centuries in the past and the power of muslims to empose their will on the world has largely vanished. Today muslims hold sway only in the parts of the world where they are a majority, and even there, except in places where oil creates wealth, muslims are fast receding into a past, falling behind the rest of the world in education, economy, prosperity, political strength, etc etc.

Kashmiris chose to go to war against India in the name of religion, with the assistance of their terrorist godfather, Pakistan. Well, let them win the war if they can.

scores of millions of muslims live in India and, depsite the occasional problems they face, they choose not to migrate to Pakistan, they do not join the Kashmiris, they do not migrate to bangladesh. They are satisfied to live in India. Kashmir was a hindu populated territory before the forced conversions of the barbaric muslim invaders, and today it remains a part of India.

The kashmiri muslims terrorized the KPs, who chose to migrate rather than continue to face the

Kashmiri pandiths should thank their stars that we are not barbaric like hindus of gujrat or mumbai or orissa who kill muslims like insects. KP are safe and no body touched them.
All kashmiri muslims are shouting at top their voice and requesting pandiths to come back, evey gillani sahib requested them to come back but i guess they are waiting for bjp to come in power in kashmir and then they will return
but chances of theri return are remote as they are lost in the sea of india.
they did a mistake by scaterring in india. Now as a community they are gone and have lost their culture and languge.
they have no leadership and they alll are self centered and cant work in unison, so my reading is that they will remain like jews . they ae now used to live like parasites on doles from india.

Dear KP's dont avoid this question answer this
Dear kashmiri pandits who do u think is our real representative of kashmir
is it NC, , PDP,JKLF, HM, YASEEN MALIK, SAJJAD LONE, OMAR ABDULLAH, MEHBOOBA MUFTI OR GEELANI SAHIB,

Fight freedom struggle - Wake up - J&K - kashmir included is and will be a part of India for ever. I think it is high time all kashmiris realise it...We are there for kashmir and India.....

Fight freedom struggle - Wake up - J&K - kashmir included is and will be a part of India for ever. I think it is high time all kashmiris realise it...We are there for kashmir and India.....

Kashmiri pandiths are very well educated by lack common sense, they are cutting the same branch of tree on which they are standing, that means they spend their energies and work overtime in anti kashmir activities.
i appeal them to come and join the freedom struggle and fight against illegal indian occupation.
Dont be puppets in the hands of extremeist hindu terrorists like BJP, they will ruin you.
see jammu dogras also have now disowned you , your all candidates have lost elections, 47 kashmiri hindu candidates lot in elections, we still wellcome you, you come and buy the houses you sold and stay in kashmir like o ther kashmiri pandiths who are here , there is a substantial number of pandiths who live here and are happy.
having nexus with hindu terror groups will ruin you and you will also end in jail like sadvi pragri singh, colonol prohit and dayand shankaracharya ( he paid 25 lac rupees to become shankarachariya)
Aso i want to tell you why and how u allow indian pujaries to come to kashmir and give charge of mandir to them why dont u urself take the charge

One Kashmiri Pandit killed by Jehadis is one too many.

Pandits do not breed to send their Children or loved ones to Jehadi Graves.
That may be the privilege of Kashmiri Muslims so be it.

They will be denied entry in to Hell even.