Don’t Ask Too Fast

Everyone seems to miss a very important point. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Pursue" is a misnomer as are titles given to loads of legislation. They DO ask, They are forced to tell, and they DO pursue without regards to the intent of the law. The other lie I've been seeing is the rampant use of bible quotations. Leave the religion out of this. Our military is not only composed of only straight white christians, but citizens of all walks of life and all religious beliefs (Atheists too). The bible only serves to provide simple parables for those poor people that are unable to think for themselves, and they tend to cherrypick sections to suit their whims of the moment.

I don't think they should be able to join the military. If you want to be gay that's fine but, pushing that into the service is not a good idea. Going to the military is suppose to make a man out of you, not pushing them in you. Its disgusting & immoral! The Queen under me or rather the atheist. If you don't believe in nothing you'll go for anything. Gays are already get married..which is an abomination to God. Believe a lie and be down! Same sex is not normal at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If that were so none of us would be here. Two men nor can two women reproduce..its not natural nor moral its sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In support of our Troops, we call the sons and daughters of America who serve in the U.S. military "..brave soilders and heroes". They volunteer to put themselves through some of the toughest training the mind and body can take. So it's kind of difficult to grasp the notion that a solider dealing with multiple deployments, transfers between 2 wars and in places of constant battle, would allow him or herself to become distracted from the life & death situations. A well-trained U.S. military officer who becomes pre-occupied with fear & hate towards their fellow troops to the point where a guard is lowered and that troop & unit is put in harms way is a contradiction to said training. It'd be unsettling to think that an openly homosexual solider would be to blame if such a incident occured. If so, then all who support the opposition of 'gays in the military' could use the same "it's a distraction" arguement to oppose women in the military due to the rise of heterosexual rape in the armed forces.

Gays in the military is an open secret, even the Germans have their on Gay issues, consider this, what would you think if two homesexual or lesbians are making out in the trenches , how nice would it be for the morale... "Don't ask don't tell" is a policy that wants to remain neutral as far as military enlistment is concerned, I don't mind having gays around working for the common good, but destroying a military tradition is another thing.

Here's a difinition about Military tradition: In the United States, military tradition is a general term, that can refer to simply a father-son relationship or a much longer, ancestors-long line (which is the normal meaning). It is often described that the Southern United States as a whole have a military tradition, which is represented in the much higher representation of Southerners in the U.S. Military today and throughout the nation's history.

In Europe, military tradition was a principle of the military that evolved out of the Middle Ages' concept of chivalry.
Within Europe, various military traditions developed. In England, military tradition was carried on in regimental lines, with each regiment tracing its own history back. Today with reforms in the British Army many believe that British military traditions are destroyed.

Should we start a new military tradition base on Gays? how about The gays grenadiers! If we start tinkiring about the Unitied States Military tradition, then we are opening a Pandora's Box. Hence you don't say "UNIFORM" for nothing, and further more we do have Gays in the military, but it's an open secret.

Gay's in the military, like this is something Bill Clinton found about. Here's a news flash: There have been gays in the military as long as there has been a military - anywhere.

"Why is it, it can take years for a gay person to come out, but when they finally do the whole world is supposed to be ok with it? I don't necessarily agree with hiding your sexuality....how awful to have to lie about who and what you are. But at the same time I think in general people would be more accepting of it if it weren't shoved down our throats. Why can't a gay person just live, and just discuss their lover or just be gay in the same way a straight person would. When I introduce myself to someone, I don't include the information that I am straight, I don't have stickers on my car telling everyone I am straight, and I don't march in parades, so why do gay people have to do these things?"

They "have" to do these things to make sure that others struggling with their identity know they aren't alone. When being gay stops being "abnormal", then they won't have to march or proclaim their sexuality any more.

Allow gays, and let the homophobes get out of the military. Good riddance to let the hateful out, they shouldn't be allowed to fight for the constitution, since they don't seem to believe in it.

Really? Do we really want to do this? It does not make a difference if someone is gay or straight. Its not going to change the way they serve their country. I served in the Militery for 3 years as an Openly Gay Man and never once was I treat any differently then a straight soldier. I still did all the same work and same long hours as everyone else. I never once had any issues with an fellow soldiers. In fact they appreciated the fact that I was out. It was out in the open and there were no issues. Any man or woman gay, lesbian or streaight. Should have the right to defender their country and not have to hide who they are.
Whoever is so worried about Gays being Judged by God. Well then let us be judged by God when it is our time. And yes, You too will be Judged. Moved on with your life and do something good for a change and stop bringing so much pain into this world. There is nowhere in the Bible that says God needs your help. In fact It does say God loves all his Children. It does not say God only loves all his straight Children.

I don't believe that there is going to be this huge rush by gay people to join the military even if they allow it. I served in the military for 22 years and yes we knew that certain people were gay, but we did not turn them in nor did we bother them about it. Of course that was the Air Force in the 1970s. I then joined the Army as an Infantry Officer (combat arms). Women are not allowed to serve in the Infantry and neither should gays. In the infantry, there is no time to be worrying about if one of your men is not doing his job because he is worried about his lover. It will not work. Also, can one imagine if Steve and Mike are in the same squad and like each other. Then one of them has to be moved out of the squad to another squad, maybe to another platoon or even out of the company. You depend on the people that you have to do training and then go to war. I agree with alowing gays in the service but not the infantry just like we don't allow women to serve in the infantry.

*FOR ADULT EYES ONLY* Thisi s in comment to everyone on here who is bashing the beliefs of Christians. You know what cracks me up? Is that everyone on here who is for gays serving in the military or homosexual's lifestyles, are putting down the Christians, because of our moral stand (God's stand on homosexuality). When in fact Christians are not the only ones who have this belief. Muslims and Catholics also share in this belief as well. Though people are quicker to embrace those who are Muslim, when Muslims will die for and kill for their beliefs. I would like to see you go to their country and speak of homosexuality...you will be killed. Christians are the only ones who are persecuted for our beliefs because we come in the name of Yeshua (Jesus the Messiah)...and YES, I'm also a Jew and I am a Christian and I do not agree with the sin of homosexuality in or out of the U.S. military. I don't care if a man wants to pump another man in the buttocks or a woman wants to do whatever it is she does with another woman. It is not natural people. IT IS OBVIOUS, JUST BY OUR PHYSICAL BODIES AND THE WAY THEY ARE WONDERFULLY MADE, THAT GOD MADE WOMAN FOR MAN. I know that is was not meant for a man to ejaculated inside another man's behind. History shows how God destroys cities for this abomination, yet history always has a way of repeating itself. Some might think that this is a bit much to post, but I think it's a bit much for those of us who have to put up with this on the internet, on television, and our daily lives. It's pushed in our faces, it's pushed into our kid's schools at young ages, and through the media..and no one thinks about whether or not it is offensive to those of us who are offended by all of that. Just like you might read this post and say "that is not right to post something like that! (because of that little bit of morality still left in your spirit). Homosexuality is also immoral. But I guess that the only things now days that are immoral are those things which you all allow to line up with your own lives. As long as it doesn't interfere with your lifestyles, then it is OK in your heads. Interesting.....

There are now and always have been gays and bisexuals in every county's military. In times of combat they have fought fiecely and with distinction. For example two military lkeaders quickly come to mind: Alexander the Great and arguably, David, of Goliath fame. Isn't it time we respected people for their character and example, as in our brave military, instead of stereotypes?

Boy did you open up a can of worms. We can all dream of a perfect would that fits our lifestyle to a tee. The fact is that there have been and are now members of all lifestyles in service of the worlds organizations since the beginning of time. We really do not need this distraction at all. Do you think that if someone checks the box on any form that declares that they are gay that there uniform will have a G on it, so the S's can stay away.Our military has been evolving for all of the time it has existed, during the Civil war we had units made up of Blacks who served with valor, during the 2sd world war we had units made up of Japanese who also served with valor and so on, all of these unites also had gays in them and they also served with valor. Let it go , let them be who they are, let them serve there country and let receive what is do them as VETERANS.

As an active military member of over 24 years, I'm not sure how I feel about the new policy change yet. I will accept (not necessarily like) and enforce policy as set by my CNO, Joint Chiefs and the Commander in Chief- that is my job. The days a majority of our politicians having served our country, are few and far between. It would be nice if they did, having shared some of our experiences to make judgements and policy. The time to adjust for this change will be painful regardless of what civilian 'norms' and thoughts are. Don't pass judgement on Military though processes unless you have walked in our 'boots'.

I am straight non homophobic. I am retired from the military after 30 years. I as well as all other service members have most likely served with, supervised, been supervised and probably even roomed with a gay person. There have been some highly decorated gay vets. I would have a problem rendering first aide to a known gay person because of a higher probability of contracting HIV or even AIDS. I would have a problem sharing sleeping quarters and shower facilities with a person that is openly gay. I think the first time I would be showering and something happened would end my career. Gay people are most likely hard working honest people. Other than the above mentioned I have no problems with gays. They are human beings. I am of the belief that what I don???t know won???t hurt me. Lets keep a persons sexuality a secrete. MY GOD BLESS ALL OF OUR SERVICE MEMBERS.