Don’t Ask Too Fast

who cares if they are gay or the L word. they are all human beings who choose to fight for there country!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND if you can't deal with the rules of the military, don't join. Being in the military you have to be able to follow strict instruction. We know our place within rank and know how to and how not to embarrass our fellow service members.
So AGAIN check your facts before arguing because no where is it stated that gays are not welcome in the US military.

First of all, everyone is forgetting one very key principal here: A persons sexual preference should be PRIVATE. What people do in tghe PRIVACY of their bedrooms is just that...PRIVATE! If peopel want to parade around and openly decllare their sexual preferences, then THEY are opening themselves up to comment, criticism, and decisions such as whether they should be allowed to serve in the military or anywhere else, for that matter. If you are gay, hetrosexual, bi-sexual, metrosexual, etc. etc,. etc. ad nauseam, then here is the key to a happy, carefree life: KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. If you just CANNOT keep your mouth shut, then face teh damn consequences of your actions and NOW shut up. End of discussion. End of controversy.

I personally think that if someone would even consider going into the military to support a country that doesn???t support them more power to them. I for one know that I wouldn???t give two shits about someone who didn???t give one about me. And half of the people out there wouldn???t even join the military, so be happy that someone wants to. The fact that someone you don???t even like is out the putting their ass on the line so you can sit at home on you computer, with your loved one nice and safe with insurance and happy children and bitch about the way they live their life when it doesn???t even effect you in the least is completely disgusting and appalling.

It would seem to me that my sexual preference is exactly that, mine. and although many people are attractive from a physical standpoint it does not reneder them healthy partners. Just because you identify your sexual preference does not mean you want any person of that sex as a partner. 'gayness' does not pass thru the water or rub off in the showers --so, if a service persons sexual identity is so shallow and fragile as to be threatened while serving with fellow gay/lesbian americans then let them not enlist.
Predjudice is an ugly, fear based position-it should not be spread among those willing to serve the USA alongside anyone able to call themselves a citizen of the United States. It is time for those God fearing individuals to fear Him silently(let's see how long they can remain silent and closeted)
Thanks goe out to wasabi28

It would seem to me that my sexual preference is exactly that, mine. and although many people are attractive from a physical standpoint it does not reneder them healthy partners. Just because you identify your sexual preference does not mean you want any person of that sex as a partner. 'gayness' does not pass thru the water or rub off in the showers --so, if a service persons sexual identity is so shallow and fragile as to be threatened while serving with fellow gay/lesbian americans then let them not enlist.
Predjudice is an ugly, fear based position-it should not be spread among those willing to serve the USA alongside anyone able to call themselves a citizen of the United States. It is time for those God fearing individuals to fear Him silently(let's see how long they can remain silent and closeted)
Thanks goe out to wasabi28

This issue is being mingled with many other issues here. When ever we put sexual preference, race or gender in front of the ability of the person then we do ourselves and that person a great disservice. We become so consumed with the outwardness of people that we negate any benefit we may get from being friends, or serving alongside. Sexual preference is not a choice; instead, the choice comes in how one displays him/herself (acts). Let someone's ability to perform the task at hand be the deciding factor as to if he/she gets the job or not......nothing else.

Straight/gay is an arbitrary distinction important only to homophobes. What, are they afraid of being molested on the battlefield? Homosexual men happen to be wired to be attracted to men... just like most women. So what's the big deal? Are they afraid of women as well? There are a hell of a lot of male-on-female assaults in the macho, macho military for these guys to be somehow "afraid" of the homosexual in the foxhole with them. And the only thing "dragging down morale" as I've heard argued, is the utter intolerance for people who are different. Just like some UAW lifer keying foreign cars in the parking lot because they think they have some exclusive claim on "their" company - or battalion - the intolerants are the ones creating the problem.

There is an easy solution to all of this: ban homophobes from the miltary. In no sector of society is prejudice - against blacks, against women, against Japanese-Americans or against homosexuals - morally defensible. It's time to stop being bullied by the Neanderthals of the world.

Oh, and for the record, I am about as straight as they are. I love football. I love women. And for the most part, I use the higher parts of my brain in thinking about issues like this.

I was in the Army for three years, and I really do not understand why peopld insist on having openly gay people in the ranks. I certainly do not want to shower with a guy that finds my nakedness attractive, that would be very uncomfortable. That would be just like sending me to a womens shower, I would do my best to be respectful of course, however, I am a straight male, if they are attractive I will notice, especially if they have no clothes on. There is no reason for this. Furthermore it would put stress on units, that have plenty on thier plates already. These men and women need to worry about being the very best at what they do, so when they find themselves in combat they are focused, trained and ready. Please do not put additional stress on the troops. I think they deserve that at a minimum. Furthermore, the choice should be the military's, not civilians that do not have to serve. From my experience in the Army, I would say the majority of the Army is not looking to mix the ranks with homosexuals. Leave it alone.

People Really !!! Get ahold of yourselves. Why are we having this huge discussion. If you are someone who really thinks there are not Gays in the military right now, you need a slap of reality. What is really going to change by letting someone say they are gay? It is not like the Ads are going to change for the military, the ARMY is not going to come out with a new Slogan saying "Army, Be as Gay as you want to be". I mean really, We talk, work, shop do all of our normal everyday things around gay people right now, you just do not realize it. A gay person is not going join the military and receive a special Gay ribbon to wear on their uniform. And most Gays I know do not just come out and openly talk about their gay relations, in fact if you were not told you would never know if they were gay. So why would it be different in the military. Gays want to join the military to fight for our freedoms, and protect our country and those countries that can not protect themselves. They do not want to join the military and use it as a dating service. I am a 29yr old straight white male, I served in U.S.Army stationed over in Germany for 3 yrs. I knew I worked with gays, and it didn't effect me at all, because everyone in the military has a job to do, and as long as those people did their job, their sexuality never mattered. Just because the Govt says it is ok to be Open doesnt mean that gays are going to be chasing around your sons or daughters, they are there to fulfil the militarys mission. Our military is fighting for our rights as a country, what does someones sexuality have to do with that?

(DISCLAIMER: I love ALL people: gay, straight, BI, trans, butch, queeny, whatever...)



I Promise YOU: it's not like every big ole' nelly-queen is going to come RACING to a recruiter's office in their Audi A-4 wearing $350 jeans wanting to join the Military simply because "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" has been abolished. Most of these types of Gays are so LEFT that the ABSOLUTE last thing they'd EVER do is join a Government-controlled organization geared toward the "common" and the "team" instead of the individual!



Those gay men and women currently (and proudly) serving "in the closet" truly LOVE their Country AND are usually more biologically, mentally, and emotionally PERFECT for a career in the Military than ANY of their "straight" counterparts.



I'm YET to meet a GAY MAN OR WOMAN in UNIFORM that wasn't either "better prepared" or better performing than everyone else in their UNIT! -You NEVER know who is serving next to you...and that's the point, straight or GAY: It's about service and National Pride, NOT about what type of bar you frequent when you're NOT on a ship, plane OR in Iraq.



I myself, having just completed 8 Years of Honorable Active Duty service as a gay man can only offer this to ANYONE who took the time to read this: It was an AWESOME way to spend my 20's, get my degree paid for, and see the world...EVEN WITH spending 2 years of my time in Iraq and Afghanistan! I'd highly recommend the military to ANYONE who is searching for something MORE out of life, something bigger than themselves. I enjoyed and truly miss every second of it!



I left the military after completing my second enlistment and my Bachelor's Degree. Even though I had my commander, supervisors, subordinates, and friends questioning WHY I'd ever leave the military, I simply had to become a civilian. -Only to see if it TRULY was worth sacrificing a wonderful career, great friends, opportunities and values I CHERISHED just so I didn't have to live in fear of being "caught" one day.



It SUCKS.

It would seem to me that my sexual preference is exactly that, mine. and although many people are attractive from a physical standpoint it does not reneder them healthy partners. Just because you identify your sexual preference does not mean you want any person of that sex as a partner. 'gayness' does not pass thru the water or rub off in the showers --so, if a service persons sexual identity is so shallow and fragile as to be threatened while serving with fellow gay/lesbian americans then let them not enlist.
Predjudice is an ugly, fear based position-it should not be spread among those willing to serve the USA alongside anyone able to call themselves a citizen of the United States. It is time for those God fearing individuals to fear Him silently(let's see how long they can remain silent and closeted)
Thanks goe out to wasabi28

Homosexual have been in the service for years, but they where in the closet about it not out in the open like now.
Serving ones country has nothing to do with one's sexual preference. Its about serving. And to me it makes not difference what sexual preference a person has. Let them serve.

Why not? They are people to, they can fight if needed just like us straight ones. They are just like everyone else they bleed red, suffer, and they are American their life style is no ones business but their on, and have all types of emotions just all Americans. So YES let in, let them fight.