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  • Posted By: good conscience @ 01/07/2009 12:37:14 PM

    All these postings are stupid, outrageous and irrelevant. it's shocking that Newsweek allows this atrocious public spectacle. All the wasted space, time and the storage costs incurred for this drivel. To see supposedly adult humans engaging in this kind of claptrap confirms how many people on the planet cannot see that they are the problem. Don't any of you have jobs, or any other kind of diversions to pass your time positively?

    • Posted By: True_Indian @ 01/07/2009 3:56:46 PM

      How did you get time to read all these posts and able to write message? Are you not wasting time?

    • Posted By: tdgrimm @ 01/07/2009 2:56:43 PM

      Well aren't you special!

  • Posted By: Swisspeas @ 01/06/2009 12:50:40 PM

    ALLAH AHKBAR!!! GOD (MUSLIM) IS GREAT!!! BUSTIZE KORHARA ***!! DEATH TO ALL INFIDELS!!
    ALLAH AHKBAR MAY THE VENERABLE PROPHET ELIHU AND THE GREAT FASHEEM MUSTAFF BEN ALI ALWAZIRI SHOWER MANY GREAT BLESSINGS UPON THE TRUE SONS OF ISLAM!! --- MUSTAFA AL-ARIKI

    • Posted By: Happy2behere @ 01/07/2009 3:36:36 PM

      HEY SWISSPUSS... CHECKOUT WHAT I THINK OF YOU!

    • Posted By: Foehammer 1/508 @ 01/06/2009 2:04:20 PM

      Go f--k a pig you dirty hadji bastard! If you people had any balls you would raise an army and fight us man for man. Islam "The Religion of Cowards and Child Molestors". To hell with Allah and his crazies!

    • Posted By: spliter01 @ 01/06/2009 1:29:55 PM

      poop on allah and it's in small letters for a reason. You don't deserve to even call on god!!! You are a sick sob.

  • Posted By: Happy2behere @ 01/07/2009 3:32:21 PM

    I think Swisspeas missed his flight.... Too bad!

  • Posted By: Happy2behere @ 01/07/2009 3:31:30 PM

    I say we flush Swisspeas down the toilet along with the other deserving members....

  • Posted By: bmoffatt011 @ 01/07/2009 3:12:41 PM

    (from the story)--Even so, he believes that the remains should be returned. It would be, he says, an example of "the highest morals. This is what makes America great."

    I fully agree with that sentiment. It's the same reason we never should have conducted torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Desecrating the remains makes us no better than the terrorists. "He who lies down with dogs wakes up with fleas."

  • Posted By: tdgrimm @ 01/07/2009 2:54:58 PM

    The hijackers remains should be ground into dust and deposited in a sewage treatment plant.

  • Posted By: boscobear @ 01/07/2009 2:12:12 PM

    Just flush them down the drain!

  • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/04/2009 3:28:04 PM

    Bury them on a pig farm, right where the pigs deficate. And let's stop this fiction that Islam is a peaceful religion. It's not even a religion; it is a cult based on the ravings of a lunatic, filtered through a barbaric and primitive mind set, Islam seeks to pull the world into a barbarism we can not even imagine. They need to be stopped by any means necessary. We should save our money on smart-bombs and just go to good old carpet bombing-day and night. With these people there is no "collateral damage." They would do it to us if they could.
    How's that work for you Aamina Hassan?

    • Posted By: Amina Hassan @ 01/06/2009 3:47:11 AM

      Oh kingrichard , so is that your excuse? You think we will do it to you? so you will bomb us out of existence first? Is this a jungle, oe what? 1) that just shows your fear. So sad, and the other thing is, you should stop pretending than, that you are for world peace and harmony,nce you relish bombing innocent people, You show yourself to be barbarian as for calling a prophert a lunatic(god forbid), its clear to even an idiot that there are no practising christians today. You have NO religion, so let's not even go there.

      We muslims, we are 1.5 billion in number. You are right to be afraid of us, and the hidden strength we represent. Go ahead and try to finish us all off. We are all over the world, and some of us are from your culture.

      And btw, you seem to have forgotten that , what comes up, must come down. And believe me, yo have already started.

      • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/07/2009 1:41:53 PM

        1.5 billion? Not a problem. A few well placed nukes should whittle that down considerably. The rest we'll just have to round up and deal with up close and personal... know what I mean?

    • Posted By: pxtot @ 01/04/2009 7:12:10 PM

      Ann Coulter, is that you? I always *knew* you were really a drag queen!

    • Posted By: pxtot @ 01/04/2009 7:12:26 PM

      Ann Coulter, is that you? I always *knew* you were really a drag queen!

  • Posted By: Wild Irish @ 01/07/2009 1:36:49 PM

    Send them to the Hearst Museum of Anthropology at the University of California at Berkeley! The Hearst seems to take everybody--even six sets of human remains from the Battle of Saipan (catalog numbers 12-11061 to 12-11066). And next to them are over 9000 sets of Native American human remains.

  • Posted By: Marks1108 @ 01/07/2009 6:18:40 AM

    MFB..I will join those in saying, respect your military. I recently retired after 23 years of service and am proud of that service. My work was mostly environmental in nature but I also worked in the law enforcement side. My civilian position now is also counter terrorism and defense operations related. Let me put it this way; I turned McDonald's down and not only graduated high school, but also have a masters degree, a degree paid for by myself without military aid. Your military, yes, YOUR military, is the one that keeps the "bad" guys away from the US.

    • Posted By: Bill Smith @ 01/07/2009 12:35:34 PM

      Without military aid? Didn't you get a paycheck twice a month for 23 years and a retirement check now, stolen from the productive?

  • Posted By: timberchuck @ 01/07/2009 10:44:46 AM

    the hijackers remains should be entomed in a block of bacon grease inside a glass spere & put on permanent display.

  • Posted By: Marks1108 @ 01/07/2009 10:33:41 AM

    Amina Hassan: One thng I do realize is that the terrorists, for the most part, are the muslim equivalent of fanatics...we have many groups that can be lumped into the fanatic category. After 911, the muslim groups in the US were very quick to indicate that terrorist acts are not the muslim way and in fact the Koran indicates peace rather than violence. As for the Afghanistan invasion..that is an act against terrorism and not the people of Afghanistan. Unfortunately, no matter how carefully attacks ar eplanned, civilians and innocents end up hurt,yes, I agree, in that, the invasion is wrong. Iraq I can't comment on as I have mixed feelings on that one. Hussein needed to be brought down is all I can agree on for certain. Religion is probably one of the number one reasons why people fight and it is a stupid reason. Not that people are stupid but why one's religious beliefs have to be one way or another in order for there to be peace is still a mystery. The people in the Middle East have been fighitng for so long and so hard due to religious beliefs that I doubt they truly understand just why all the fighting began in the first place. At this point, it is a way of life rather than anything out of the ordinary.

  • Posted By: amendment2man @ 01/07/2009 10:20:00 AM

    Hey Hassan: it works both ways. we have the right to incinerate those who attack us also. we also have the ability. Whyt don't they stay in their countries and work in a civilized maner to bring about positive change instead of blaming the most convinient targets for your own deficiencies both social and economic. why do the moderate members of thecommunity support these radicals ? are they all radicals at heart?

    why don't they use these funds to bring about positive change instead of funding terrorist actions which cause the rest of the world to percieve them with contempt. they are not winning over any friends and eventually even the bleeding heart liberals will abandon sympathy for them. People who hurt innocents with deliberate premeditated actions should be treated as the animals they have become not humans as they once were.

  • Posted By: amendment2man @ 01/07/2009 10:07:59 AM

    10 pounds of alpo!

  • Posted By: M.F.B @ 01/06/2009 2:39:49 PM

    I would expect your family members that fought in two wars would hope you could at least spell soldier. Not to mention the difference between your and you're. The only thing many of these comments prove is how illiterate, racist and simply stupid pockets of America have become . Or, should I say have remayned...

    • Posted By: Jarhead6 @ 01/07/2009 9:27:59 AM

      Hey Einstein; before you insult someone for their spelling, you need to get out your OWN dictionary. It's "remained" not "remayned."

      Another item for you consideration. You have no clue what you're talking about when you say that everyone in the military is there because they were rejected by McDonalds. There's no test or physical to pass at McDonalds, much less a boot camp with high attrition. I won't speak for the Army, but in the Marines, most of the people that walk thru the front door at a recruiting station are sent packing after preliminary evaluation for any one of many disqualifying reasons. Many are there because they want something BETTER than McDonalds and are taking the initiative to do something about it. Many others have an urge to serve their country--something you will almost certainly refuse to believe. But given that I spent 28 years doing this and you didn't, I'll let the rest of the readers decide who's right and who's wrong. Just facts (not opinions); inconvenient as they may be for your smug world view.

      You probably assume from the forgoing that I'm in the "bury them with pig guts" camp. Part of me would find that satisfying, but it's the part in all of us that we need to control. We should not return them to families for glorification as martyrs, but inter them appropriately, probably at some undisclosed location.

      Just one more thing. Waterboarding is categorically NOT torture. Waterboarding used to be a form of hazing at West Point and VMI for heaven's sake. It induces fear and panic which ends instantly, with no damage. It was done to us during SERE training. Beating, burning, breaking limbs, knocking out teeth, pulling arms out of sockets (like the Vietnames did to our POWs); things that cause lasting if not permanent physical damage...THOSE are torture (you know, like the reason John McCain can't raise his arms much higher than his waist because the NVA wrenched his shoulders out of their sockets).

  • Posted By: divinely speaking @ 01/07/2009 8:47:54 AM

    Simple solution to what should be done with the remnants of the terrorists. The terrorists chose incineration, getting burned by fire in that fiery crash. So cremate them and dump them bastards in the toilet and flush them. Or without cremating them, dump them in a garbage pile.

  • Posted By: kilo @ 01/06/2009 1:23:20 AM

    Hassan, you are trying to cover up the misdeeds of your brothers "MUSLIMS". Chapter 9 in your said quran of the devil. says: That anybody who opppresses your brother will be killed "infidels". Mr. labdaddy is deffinitely right! about you and your kinds. You all hide your true colors inside that nasty borqa or that sacks you put from your head to your toes. Actually iI was in Saudi Arabia when New york was attacked by your so called brothers in ALLAH. Almost all the muslims were dancing in the streets, malls, everywhere, even the people in their palaces. And you are trying to tell us that your religion is a loving religion? get a grip Hassan.
    I use to be an exchange student and studied in Saudi Arabia and Iran in the early 80's. Iran love western culture, such as discos and music but all of them hated American people same in Saudi Arabia. They are all like your ALLAH, who killed his own kind for not believing his quran from his ALLAH.

    • Posted By: Amina Hassan @ 01/07/2009 8:00:58 AM

      kindly refrain from commenting on what muslims dress like..u hv no right, it is a matter of personal choice, and its not offensive to anyone. and excuse us for not liking people who spew hatred, just like the many members here, in this forum. and your last sentence is unintelligible.

  • Posted By: Aamina Hassan @ 01/04/2009 4:33:58 AM

    It is amazing to me, that the hundreds and thousands of people killed in iraq and afghanistan till today, mere civilians, are ignored by these so called citizens of the free world. You may go on about pearl harbor, but let us remember who bombed hiroshima. 9/11 was wrong , but the people behind it were not muslims, not according to any islamic teaching .Islam does not condone terror, and killing of innocent people.That's america's perogative, it seems.Any twisted sense of revenge that you have, should be soothed by the brutal killing of innocent people, many more in number than those who died in 9/11.

    And, by the way, I had say the christian crusades were back in full swing.

    • Posted By: labdaddy @ 01/05/2009 10:29:19 PM

      You're wrong, Hassan, and you know it. From your own Koran & Sunnahs:
      3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve...
      Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220: ... I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)

      When you say "innocent people", Islam defines "innocent" as Muslims. Non-Muslims are Kuffar, or non-believers. Again, from your own Koran:

      5:33 The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

      Misleading non-believers is called taquiyyah and is permitted by the Koran. Nice try, though.

      • Posted By: Amina Hassan @ 01/07/2009 7:57:29 AM

        However, citizens of Islamic state have the right to their sovereignty, the right to defend themselves against US military forces. Don???t you agree? The war on Iraq and Afghanistan is wrong. Muslims cannot hand over their countries in a platter, to America or anyone else.
        I welcome all calm replies and questions/criticisms.
        Thanks.

    • Posted By: labdaddy @ 01/05/2009 10:31:34 PM

      You're wrong, Hassan, and you know it. From your own Koran & Sunnahs:
      3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve...
      Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220: ... I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)

      When you say "innocent people", Islam defines "innocent" as Muslims. Non-Muslims are Kuffar, or non-believers. Again, from your own Koran:

      5:33 The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

      Misleading non-believers is called taquiyyah and is permitted by the Koran. Nice try, though.

      • Posted By: Amina Hassan @ 01/07/2009 7:57:04 AM

        I m glad that you asked for an explanation, instead of laying blame. First of all it is an ayat , you should not read the word to word translation and draw your conclusions from there. In almost all Qurans, the context and background of each and every ayat is explained, in the form of tafseer.

        That is why, when you read the tafseer, we know that during the life of Holy Prophet(PBUH), often a certain event occurred, and afterwards, Allah sent a revelation to Holy Prophet.
        This ayat was sent down like this. There was a battle of Uhad, between Muslims and Non-Muslims. The Muslims were winning. The Holy Prophet(PBUH) had stationed 50 men on top of a hill and instructed them not to move without his order.
        However, anticipating victory, 40 of the 50 men left their station, without Holy Prophet???s permission. The non-muslims came from behind and attacked them. And muslims had to suffer a lot of loss of life, etc. Thus non-muslims began to say to muslims that if Holy Prophet(PBUH) was a true prophet, he would not have lost. So, it follows that they did not believe Allah and His prophet(PBUH).
        It really was just a lesson for Muslims. In order to reassure Holy Prophet (PBUH), Allah is saying in this ayat that I will (WE) cast terror into the heart of those who disbelieved Holy Prophet(PBUH). NOT muslims casting terror, but Allah. You see, Allah is merciful, yes, but His anger is huge too. He can do whatever He wants.

        Coming to the ayat about people being punished, it is again that you have to look at tafseer, the context, the background. Like you have to see why something has been said by Allah, and for whom. Not just that you look at a single ayat???s translation
        The Ayat ???s meaning is that if there???s an Islamic country, and anyone(be it a person claiming to be Muslim even) or a non-muslim, who prevents, i.e. puts hurdles in Muslim???s way from practicing Islam or living without fear, acts against Muslims, and creates chaos, insecurity, fear etc, an e.g. is suicide bombers, THAN they are to be punished.
        It is retaliation, a defense of Islamic land and country. If someone initiates violence and kills Muslims, hurts them, so to punish them.
        Finally, I would like to add that people in West say suicide bombers are Muslims, claiming to do Jihad. Well, that???s false, Jihad(which is defense, not unprovoked offense) can only be declared ,in front of entire world, by head of the Islamic state, the central government in power. It cannot be begun otherwise, by individuals or a grouip of people. Has anyone ever heard from an Islamic country ???s head, declaring Jihad?
        No, So all those who kill people in name of Jihad are wrong, especially since they are killing Muslims in the bombings as well. 9/11 was also wrong.


  • Posted By: Amina Hassan @ 01/07/2009 7:55:22 AM

    to labdddy: I m glad that you asked for an explanation, instead of laying blame. First of all it is an ayat , you should not read the word to word translation and draw your conclusions from there. In almost all Qurans, the context and background of each and every ayat is explained, in the form of tafseer.

    That is why, when you read the tafseer, we know that during the life of Holy Prophet(PBUH), often a certain event occurred, and afterwards, Allah sent a revelation to Holy Prophet.
    This ayat was sent down like this. There was a battle of Uhad, between Muslims and Non-Muslims. The Muslims were winning. The Holy Prophet(PBUH) had stationed 50 men on top of a hill and instructed them not to move without his order.
    However, anticipating victory, 40 of the 50 men left their station, without Holy Prophet???s permission. The non-muslims came from behind and attacked them. And muslims had to suffer a lot of loss of life, etc. Thus non-muslims began to say to muslims that if Holy Prophet(PBUH) was a true prophet, he would not have lost. So, it follows that they did not believe Allah and His prophet(PBUH).
    It really was just a lesson for Muslims. In order to reassure Holy Prophet (PBUH), Allah is saying in this ayat that I will (WE) cast terror into the heart of those who disbelieved Holy Prophet(PBUH). NOT muslims casting terror, but Allah. You see, Allah is merciful, yes, but His anger is huge too. He can do whatever He wants.

    Coming to the ayat about people being punished, it is again that you have to look at tafseer, the context, the background. Like you have to see why something has been said by Allah, and for whom. Not just that you look at a single ayat???s translation
    The Ayat ???s meaning is that if there???s an Islamic country, and anyone(be it a person claiming to be Muslim even) or a non-muslim, who prevents, i.e. puts hurdles in Muslim???s way from practicing Islam or living without fear, acts against Muslims, and creates chaos, insecurity, fear etc, an e.g. is suicide bombers, THAN they are to be punished.
    It is retaliation, a defense of Islamic land and country. If someone initiates violence and kills Muslims, hurts them, so to punish them.
    Finally, I would like to add that people in West say suicide bombers are Muslims, claiming to do Jihad. Well, that???s false, Jihad(which is defense, not unprovoked offense) can only be declared ,in front of entire world, by head of the Islamic state, the central government in power. It cannot be begun otherwise, by individuals or a grouip of people. Has anyone ever heard from an Islamic country ???s head, declaring Jihad?
    No, So all those who kill people in name of Jihad are wrong, especially since they are killing Muslims in the bombings as well. 9/11 was also wrong.


  • Posted By: MollyNPoling @ 01/07/2009 3:05:56 AM

    "None of the families of the hijackers, and no foreign governments, have come forward to request that the remains be handed over, and it is not clear what the official response would be if they did...The remains of the identified victims have been returned to their families; but what is to be done with the remnants of their killers?"
    Even though the highjackers were responsible for all of those innocent people's deaths, it is not right for our government to keep their remains after too extended a period of time. Their remains should be given back to their families. That way the highjackers' family member would be able to have some closure. Imagine if the remains of one of your family members were being withheld. How would you feel? Most likely, you would feel less than satisfactory about the situation. Hopefully, the government will put the remains of the highjackers' in the right place- the hands of their families.

    • Posted By: peace1 @ 01/07/2009 3:09:00 AM

      yes, how true. with closure will come also the realization of the community of how furtile this jihad thing is...
      and how sad and painful for those left behind

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