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  • Posted By: dcl1 @ 01/05/2009 4:30:41 PM

    How can there be a solution? The Muslims want all Jews and Christians destroyed! Ether we have to destroy all or most Muslims, or they have to kill all or most of us. How many times have there been peace accords since 1947, 10, 20, 30, they are always broken by the Arabs/Muslims. They will never really agree to a lasting peace, only peace long enough to regroup and attack again. Who said insanity is doing the something over and over and expecting different results, it never changes. The Arabs will never let there be a lasting peace. What is the answer, boy, I don't know.

    • Posted By: whyislam101 @ 01/05/2009 4:34:36 PM

      Israel was given to the Jew's by the U.N. (for those of you that don't know U.N. stands for United Nations) after the holocaust. The U.N. now regrets ever giving them that land.Even Jewish Rabbi's say that Jew's and Muslim's lived in peace and harmony under Islamic rule. Right there the Jewish Rabbi's even say it.They also said that (The Rabbi's) Jew's had no busniess having their own country. Their own Torah stated that the Jew's don't need a country but to live with everyone in peace with everyone. The Rabbi's say it and the U.N. regrets it.

  • Posted By: bstockto @ 01/05/2009 4:34:36 PM

    In any conflict, peace is always possible. There was peace between the U.S. and Japan, albeit only after bombing them into total submission. The Middle East is little different in that these people have been killing each other for centuries and they are good at it. The trouble with the "contestants" is they do not read far enough back in history - they only read back to where history suits their argument. History has never really been much of a precedent when drawing lines in the sand anyway. Sooner or later, they will have to have either a lasting peace or total destruction (of one side or the other). We Americans need to look at the greater good of our relationship with the Arab nations and Israel. Peace is to our benefit outside of the obvious need for the oil under the desert. Democracy, an easy concept for us, is not easy in a culture where various forms of theocracy, autocracy or dictatorship has been the norm for centuries. What if it were just up to the people of this region and not the ambitious politicians or monarchies. The poor people of Vietnam only wanted to raise thier children in peace, harvest their rice, and live without any undue intrusion in their daily life. Sounds pretty basic, but it was only accomplished after considerable loss of life and only under the Communist rule. Life is good - so is peace.

  • Posted By: whyislam101 @ 01/05/2009 4:33:47 PM

    Israel was given to the Jew's by the U.N. (for those of you that don't know U.N. stands for United Nations) after the holocaust. The U.N. now regrets ever giving them that land.Even Jewish Rabbi's say that Jew's and Muslim's lived in peace and harmony under Islamic rule. Right there the Jewish Rabbi's even say it.They also said that (The Rabbi's) Jew's had no busniess having their own country. Their own Torah stated that the Jew's don't need a country but to live with everyone in peace with everyone. The Rabbi's say it and the U.N. regrets it.

  • Posted By: dari @ 01/04/2009 11:16:35 PM

    Pia, why give them the land? Where do the Jews go? They are entitled to a country also. They were there way back and remember other temples and monuments were built over their temple. They were given the land for their country from their historic lands. I believe that they can all coexist if they live in tolerance and respect of each other. But alas that's something the Arabs do not believe in.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/04/2009 11:29:22 PM

      Dari- I am not taking any sides here. I am saying that the way out of this mess is to give the Palestinians the land back. The Jews are wonderful people and I admire them greatly for their courage. I have a dear friend who lives in Israel. I shouldn't say "lives" because having to live in fear of being blown up by a bomb while shopping for food at the market, is not what I consider living. The Palestinians-they are suffering daily with Israel's attacks. Have you seen the little children with burns on 90% of their bodies? Of course Israel has had it's share of casualties, but nothing like these people have seen. I used to sympathize with Israel but after seeing photos of small children burnt all over their poor little bodies.... that did it for me. This land is not worth any lives anymore.

      • Posted By: aschreiber1 @ 01/05/2009 12:13:49 AM

        Pia1981,

        You seem like a reasonable person. I like your responses and your willingness to admit that blame should be shared by both sides. However, what I don't understand is how people like yourself (who appears to be a rational person) could ignore the fact that Hamas is responsible for the deaths of these innocent women and children. They use them as human shields. Israel dropped leaflets and sent text messages to cellphones telling EVERYONE in Gaza what was coming. They even gave them the ability to report where rockets were being launched from by providing an anonymous tip line. Israel has made mistakes. The separation barrier was built but again that was in response to daily suicide bombings. Should the Israelis have avoided a "land grab" scenario. Yes. I agree. That's gonna piss people off. However you can't blame them for the deaths of "innocent" Palestinians when it was Hamas that fired first (and often) and did not have the human decency to not only request but DEMAND that their "loved" ones hide in a totally separate area where no fighting would take place. If this would have been done, many innocent lives would have been spared. Instead, Hamas (with the agreement of thousands of civilians) felt it was better to be killed by Israelis in order to gain international support. What does it say about a people that would stoop that low? The top Hamas leader that was killed on Saturday sent his own son out on a suicide mission several years ago! How sick is that???

        • Posted By: joe_mama @ 01/05/2009 12:32:36 AM

          That's the problem aschreiber1, they're BOTH guilty of killing innocents. You can spend 5000 years fighting over whose innocent victims are the most innocent without solving a thing (case in point...).

          Each side has had ample opportunities to prevent the killing of innocents, and yet each side points to the killing of innocents as the reason why they keep on killing innocents.

          Personally, I'm fed up with both sides, and am getting to the "just get it over with" stage. Stop the false pretenses, the cries of victimization and just fight it out...once and for all. Yes, innocents will die. Innocents always die in war, and that's the reason why you do everything within your power to avoid it in the first place. And as much as it hurts to see that, I'm not going to say one group started it or that one group has the "suffer superiority".

          If both sides commit to peace, they will both have my unwavering support, until then they're just going to have to live (and die) with the consequences of their decisions. Sorry.

          Love,
          JM

          • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/05/2009 9:25:58 AM

            Um, Joe
            Quick test:
            What would happen if Israel would lay down their weapons - ANS. - No Israel
            What would happen if Hamas would do the same - ANS - PEACE

            Really people this is easy - Hamas had a chance when they were elected - either want peace and govern their people or continue to be terrorists. They have made their choice and it was not to govern.

            • Posted By: joe_mama @ 01/05/2009 4:33:09 PM

              I think you give Israel a little more credit than I do (there's a lot of hawks now), but, basically, I agree with your assessment.

              Love,
              JM

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 9:02:17 AM

            JM-Everyone knows that one group does have the suffer superiority. The Palestinians.

            • Posted By: joe_mama @ 01/05/2009 9:23:15 AM

              I'm not trying to be sarcastic, Pia, but how so?

              Are Palestinian babies more important than Israeli babies? Or vice versa?

              Is it a matter of quantity? Since 10-fold more Palestinians have died over the last 50 years (I'm not even going to get into the last 5000) does that mean they deserve 10-fold more support?

              I'm reminded of the Sienfeld episode where George Castanza loses a great apartment to somebody because they survived the Andria Doria sinking. When told that 51 people died as a result of the disaster, Castanza responded with "THAT'S IT????", feeling that it was not "enough" of a disaster to give this woman special treatment.

              The point being, who are you (or we) to decide who has suffered more, especially when we KNOW that is one of the root causes of the fighting to begin with?

              To do so is to throw gasoline on an open fire. I said it before and I said it again, they're BOTH equally responsible for this mess. This is the outcome they've been moving toward and this is the outcome they're going to have to live (and die) with. Sucks, but it's reality, no amount of whining or cyring is going to change it.

              Love,
              JM

              PS--unless you're being facetious, in which case you can disregard my above post :)

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 10:05:55 AM

                They are both victims, only, the Palestinians are the ones taking the major beatings!

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 10:14:04 AM

                  PS I'm not being facetious. I'm being sincere.

                  Love,
                  Pia

              • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/05/2009 9:51:23 AM

                The Palestinian babies are only the most recent unnecessary deaths and mutilations. The CAUSES are lost in the mists of time. The point all along has been to stop being distracted by that false argument and focus on peace.

        • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/05/2009 12:34:04 AM

          I'm sure the "Give up your,, home,, or die" flyiers might have had something with the people staying.. as that's all they got is people, no tanks, plans, Helios, or 21st century weapons.. so how do you defend your home and be a terrorist?? when our own forfathers fought for the same reason,, freedom... something living in a concentration camp does not give...It's just where your TOLD to live...

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 8:44:02 AM

            Thank you, pinkpanther! Pinkpanther always has the answer!

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 8:41:08 AM

          I am not taking any sides except the side of the innocents caught in the middle. Of course Hamas is wrong using people as human shields and suicide missions. They see this as their cause because of pure desperation. Not long ago, I thought like you...I sided with Israel. Then one day, I saw photos of dead and burnt babies.

      • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/05/2009 9:35:05 AM

        "Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/04/2009 11:29:22 PMDari- I am not taking any sides here. I am saying that the way out of this mess is to give the Palestinians the land back."

        Yea Pia like thats going to work. Israel has already given land back. What has it gotten them? More violence caused by Hamas and the like.

        The problem is that Israel is attempting to negotiate with followers of a 7th-century death cult. Really, how does anyone with a 21st-century mindset talk to someone who thinks that if they are killed defending their religion that they will get 72 virgins in paradise? This is they type of dreck that is brodcast to children in Gaza. I realize that all Muslims are not kooky (my term) but until the leadership teaches this not much will change. The only thing the 7th-century death cult followers understand is raw fouce which is what Isral is doing.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 10:04:21 AM

          I hate to see children's tiny bodies lying dead , horribly burnt and torn. How about you? If giving back the land they want puts a stop to the killings, then that is the only option.

          PS- Although, I disagree, I respect your opinion.

          • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/05/2009 11:05:02 AM

            Pia,
            The point is - Israe has already given back land. There are no Jews left in Gaza. Hamas will not be satisfied until there is no Jews left. That is their stated goal.

            What would you have Israel do? Please be very specific. Lamenting dead children is all fine and good (and I also lement the dead on both sides). However, Hamas broke the cease-fire. Israek is defending itself

            Again, what would you have Israel do?

            Here's a quote that's still relevant:
            ???We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us??? - Golda Meier

            • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/05/2009 11:16:56 AM

              jazzman, Looked at your posts for your suggestions. All I saw was blame. Please be very specific with your descriptions of the suggestions you now ought to offer, and please be especially specific with your explanations why your suggestions will result in peace.

              • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/05/2009 11:50:07 AM

                Thanks,
                1. Hamas agrees to resume the cease-fire of prior to 12/19
                2. Hamas agrees to a two-state solution - they have to remove the call for the destruction of Israel from their charter
                3. Israel and the Palestinians agree to make Jesusalem an 'international' city under the control of the UN or other simular international body
                4. The west (and Israel) agree to divert some $$ to hekp re-build Palestinian.
                5. Iran gets its %$%&* mitts out of Palestinian
                6. There is a limited return of Palestinians to Israel. Not all. The other countries in the area (Egypy, Syria, etc.) also have to readmit those Palestinians that wish to return.

                Will it work. Nah. Not as long a Hamas in in charge in Gaza They have a choice - either stop the attacks and govern their people or remain a terrorist organization and risk becoming irrelevant (as could be happening).

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/05/2009 10:00:01 AM

          Yup, let's stop suggesting trying to find ways to peace, and lets stop suggesting that 'territory' is not a good enough reason to continue this struggle.

          Let's lay blame instead. They've only been at that for thousands of years. Surely that discussion will reveal the way to peace soon now...

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/04/2009 11:39:39 PM

        PS Dari- These temples you speak of, are they so important? More important than a life? The Jews are a giving people. The Jews have always been able to rise from the ashes, they can do it again. Wherever they were to go, they would be able to start again...however, I doubt this would ever happen.

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/04/2009 11:55:12 PM

          All the archaeological Tals of the region show that the earliest temples we know of were built on the ruins of several prior societies. So, no they are not dispositive. They are relics upon relics.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 12:04:27 AM

            I'm impressed. You know so much, 40! I agree on the temples. No big deal.

            • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/05/2009 12:07:59 AM

              Not a reason to kill babies.

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/05/2009 9:03:53 AM

                I've visited ancient temples and monuments. Certainly not worth taking a life.

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/04/2009 11:38:37 PM

        Yes, To what point are dead and burned babies" bodies justified?

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/04/2009 11:44:03 PM

          Hi 40- I didn't say "dead" bodies. I said little children burnt....live children.

          • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/04/2009 11:52:03 PM

            Yes. I added the dead ones because there are those too. As someone said below, it is not the way to peace, peace is the way. That is your point as well.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/04/2009 11:56:57 PM

              40- the dead ones are worse and there are many of them. Very tragic.

  • Posted By: strat1500 @ 01/05/2009 4:32:28 PM

    In order to have peace there needs to be 2 sides ready to stop the killing and negotiate a peace settlement. The main reason Israel and Egypt made peace was that Sadat was sick of war and ready for peace. Hamas is the government duly elected by its' population is not interested in peace. Hamas gains nothing by making peace. It doesn't get any simpler that that. Peace will never come until they stop teaching their children to hate and kill Jews and who knows how many generations this will take. Clearly they are not ready yet. The only means to a short term peace is to involve all the Arab countries in a broad based peace settlement and hold them all accountable for the actions of each other. Until this happens all Israel can do is to build walls to insulate themselves and defend themselves as necessary. What do they expect Obama and the USA to do short of abandoning Israel??

  • Posted By: 13urton 12ider @ 01/05/2009 4:18:42 PM

    It's so difficult to view this tragic circumstance objectivly. Does it seem too difficult to earnestly desire a peaceful life? What is covering these peoples' eyes while they search for solutions that seem as simple as "stop fighting for the Holy Land"? Would you rather send your sons to their demise, or share your place of worship? This is such a no-brainer it's sad.

    • Posted By: econ_rules_the_world @ 01/05/2009 4:31:46 PM

      Most who live in Gaza would agree. Unfortunately, Fatah was corrupt and Hamas was providing them medical and food services. Guess who they voted for? It's all just more complicated than it should be. I know people in both Gaza and the West Bank, and they are mostly sad and those in Gaza fearful. Sometimes to have a peaceful life you have to sleep with the enemy and that is what they were doing by voting Hamas to power.

  • Posted By: HatetoLove @ 01/05/2009 3:18:01 PM

    There will never be peace among these two until the world steps in and stops being cowards.... come on seriously your telling me that they have a right to defend themselves meaning Isreal...look at the death tool what are they defending themselves against dead civilians..There is over 500 lives claimed here and your telling me that there is justice and reasoning behind this....
    People think America runs this world guess again i think its Isreal because everyone is to scared to step in because of there damn ties..but when does morality step in...you want another 500 peoples blood on your hands until you say anything...

    • Posted By: YESHUAZ GIRL @ 01/05/2009 3:22:38 PM

      THE ONLY PEACE IS IN JESUS CHRIST...YESHUA MESSIAH!!
      NO PLACE ELSE.
      IT IS WRITTEN
      READ ABOUT PEACE AND DIVISION.

      • Posted By: greenearth @ 01/05/2009 3:34:03 PM

        The only way this could be solved, is if Russia steps in. Guess who's side they're gonna take??? Palestine.
        They're just sitting back and watching for now, but once Russia gets involved, Israel better watch out.

        • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 4:31:37 PM

          Russia,

          Ignorance in action, if Russia gets involved on the Moslem side.

          40% of the Russian army is Moslem and 6 of their 20 states or provinces are Moslem majority. Russia, like the rest of the world should wake up & realize the problem is Islamic terrs.

          Islam (the religion of peace) is at war with Animists, Buddhists, Christians (in Africa & Asia, not just the white ones), Hindus, of course the Jews, other Moslems and many smaller groups. They live in peace with no one. If none of the above are present, Islamic terrs practice their killing skills by performing the most sacred Islamic sacrament - the Honor Killing.

        • Posted By: Psymn @ 01/05/2009 3:53:15 PM

          Russia coming in on the side of Palestine huh? Do you know how many separatist groups in Russia want the same thing that the Palestinian groups want? Russia just sends in the tanks and blows them up. Why risk internal instability and international war to help some Palestinians?

          In fact many countries have this same issue. What did GB do with the Irish? What did the USA do with the Indian uprisings? If those seem too long ago, imagine it now. Imagine a native tribe outside Seattle or LA started behaving like Hamas? What would the USA do? What would Iraq, Iran or Turkey do if the Kurd corners of their countries behaved like Hamas?

          Some people on this chain have pointed to war with Mexico as a parallel, but I think you need to imagine war with native populations as a closer parallel. Every country that has faced this sort of issue has gone in and wiped them out. None has had a foe as angry and bent on destruction as Hamas.

          I am not saying the Zionists are good guys, but no nation has a right to criticize Israel. Hamas can stop firing their nearly useless rockets at any time.

        • Posted By: bmunk @ 01/05/2009 3:43:04 PM

          So you're saying that Russia is going to step in and ignore their enormous Jewish population and attack Israel? Just so you know, they vote on political leaders in Russia now and I'm fairly sure the politicians over there know that. My point is I wouldn't hold my breath on Russia attacking Israel. In fact, I wouldn't hold my breath on anyone attacking Israel militarily or even economically while the U.S. is around, regardless of who the president is.

  • Posted By: kennyrico @ 01/05/2009 4:30:16 PM

    I am putting in place a new directive for this forum that all comments with grammatical errors, the words "kill" "stupid" "moron" etc and postings in capital letters be automatically deleted. All historical quotes be verified and deleted if not true and specially anyone calling a guy with a Masters Degree from Harvard, jet fighter pilot, millionaire, twice governor of a state and twice president a stupid man while not knowing how to spell should be permanently vanished from posting, Management.

    ???I know that you are but what am I???? Pee Wee Herman, circa 1990???s

  • Posted By: ramonafdo @ 01/05/2009 4:29:57 PM

    past misdeeds, vowing to halt Israeli expansions by relocating growing Israeli settlements into the US.
    Then put in the well-developed and the very effective and American programs to mingle the two sides - from teddy bears, to cut-and-paste pictures of unity, to hold of hands and singing of alleluias, to job-creation where Palestinian and Israeli youth avoid the scheming of the Western money-markets and businesses associated with them, and go back to old-fashioned tilling of the soil and harvesting of mutually satisfying locally grown produce.
    Ramona Therese Fernando

  • Posted By: MM_SR @ 01/05/2009 3:15:55 PM

    I just wish Israelis would get over themselves already and accept the fact that God never intended for them to have a home. It's their punishment, so they should live with it :-)

    • Posted By: BiancaL @ 01/05/2009 3:36:50 PM

      Tthe poor stolen jew. If he only knew what the likes of you use him for and against his people too..

      • Posted By: MM_SR @ 01/05/2009 3:51:24 PM

        dearest Biance, you can babble all you want about how you and ur people are the chosen ones, but it's never gonna make it true. After all, how could God choose Nazis and terrorists to rule his land?

        • Posted By: BiancaL @ 01/05/2009 4:29:03 PM

          My dear, I really have to wonder how an (alleged) christian believer like you speaks this way. You seem to fail in seeing the irony of worshiping a semitic Jew, hoding HIS book sacred (The "old" testament) and use all that against HIS people. You're probably humorless too.
          You also don't seem to know much about the Nazis. Go learn.

    • Posted By: bakecity @ 01/05/2009 3:40:57 PM

      That was probably the most ignorant thing written in these posts. Keep up the good work, you'll make that many more people pro-Isreal

      • Posted By: MM_SR @ 01/05/2009 3:59:40 PM

        Thanks am just trying to keep up with the ignorant Zionists here

    • Posted By: bmunk @ 01/05/2009 3:34:42 PM

      So you had a conversation with God and you were told this? Let me know the next time you two have a scheduled chat because I'd like to know what they're being punished for.

  • Posted By: FBerry1 @ 01/05/2009 4:28:30 PM

    Whoever commented about nuking the whole Middle East shoulld be put to the death sentence. I think that the US should stop kissing the jews behind and try to help the poor innocent civilians in the Middle East who are being kiiled by Israel . This is wrong , painful, and heartbreaking and needs to be stopped ASAP.

  • Posted By: boxter618 @ 01/05/2009 4:27:35 PM

    God honors and strengthens those who put others ahead of themselves.

    The number of dead civilians is made less relevent in determining who is just by the low value placed on life by terrorists.
    Weapon stores in a hospital, in a civian apartment building? This is a willingness to sacrifice the least among us.

    I hope 'terrorist' does not refer to Muslims but to a diseased way of thinking, like any twisted human condition.

    Let Isreal's global and national reputation for human rights speak.

  • Posted By: sjfried @ 01/05/2009 4:27:14 PM

    The one thing people don't seem to take into consideration before they condemn Israel for its "disproportionate" response to the Hamas rockets is that, while Israeli deaths are few from these rocket attacks, it is not for lack of trying. Hamas is not launching these rockets with the hope of hitting nobody. They are firing these rockets in the expectation that the rockets will land such that maximum Israeli deaths are achieved. You can't fault Israel for Hamas' failure to kill more than just a few Israelis. What would the world's response be if the next rocket, god forbid, did land in an area that resulted in scores or hundreds of Israeli deaths? Would they fault Israeli response then for being disproportionately benign?

  • Posted By: boxter618 @ 01/05/2009 4:26:07 PM

    God honors and strengthens those who put others ahead of themselves.

    The number of dead civilians is made less relevent in determining who is just by the low value placed on life by terrorists.
    Weapon stores in a hospital, in a civian apartment building? This is a willingness to sacrifice the least among us.

    I hope 'terrorist' does not refer to Muslims but to a diseased way of thinking, like any twisted human condition.

    Let Isreal's global and national reputation for human rights speak.

  • Posted By: geckoguykc @ 01/05/2009 3:23:41 PM

    If it weren't for the foolish fairytales we call "religion" half of these wars wouldn't take place..............religion has become a burden to society. It does nothing but stand in the way and turn the masses against science and truth. As long as religion remains, there is no hope for the human race as a species. current religion needs to take it's place among past religion as mythology, and we needn't bother making up new ones to drag us down in the future again. The human race must unite as a species and face our problems together. Peace is the key to Future's door............how can we make progress if we can't even get along.

    • Posted By: eknull01 @ 01/05/2009 4:25:24 PM

      Ok. SO if there is no God and no basis of rlaws(ten commandments) tehn i can do what I watn and kill and whatever and it is ok. True "religion" is wrong in many instances. Christianity is not religion. it is a personal relationship wth jesus Christ who came for a sinful mankind. God is soverign. We didn't evolve. Please can you honestly beleive that. I amsorry but I didn't come from a monkey. Why are there still monkeys? How did animals decide to chage into something else? It makes no sense. I was a bilogy major. the more I studies science i got closer to realizing God created everything. there is no way everything just happened. Why should I be good? If there is no rpomise of a heaven or a hell for wickedness why are we here? Are we here just o hang out and then die? that is sad to think that? If there is no God then that is great. I lived a good life and then it is over. What if there is and you are wrong? God bless you. He is real. I have gone through too many things and seen his hand of providence. It is a great ife. Not perfect by any stretch but good and many times great

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    • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 4:25:24 PM

      Kobe3,

      Find another message board, if you want to talk about fags, etc.

      I would say there are some latent behaviors in your personality that you are just actualizing.

      3 is one-eighth of 24, a more accurate IQ for you.

    • Posted By: tommycustom @ 01/05/2009 3:04:27 PM

      Kobe
      are you for real
      Naw, you're a cartoon, dude
      tell me you ain't for real
      and then sign off

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:54:32 PM

      Apparently, though it posts, it hasn't figured out the "reply" button.

  • Posted By: whyislam101 @ 01/05/2009 4:23:08 PM

    Israel was given to the Jew's by the U.N. (for those of you that don't know U.N. stands for United Nations) after the holocaust. The U.N. now regrets ever giving them that land.Even Jewish Rabbi's say that Jew's and Muslim's lived in peace and harmony under Islamic rule. Right there the Jewish Rabbi's even say it.They also said that (The Rabbi's) Jew's had no busniess having their own country. Their own Torah stated that the Jew's don't need a country but to live with everyone in peace with everyone. The Rabbi's say it and the U.N. regrets it.

  • Posted By: RandyHiggins @ 01/05/2009 3:45:57 PM

    If an idealist with a gun walks into a city street and begins shooting out windows, to draw attention to his cause, he will be arrested. If necessary in the eyes of peace officers, he will be shot and killed. Palestinians in Gaza are not exempt from behaving rationally because they have rockets and want Hamas to rule. When they know that their neighbors fire rockets and then retreat to the porch, drinking tea, they cannot believe there will be no consequences. Israel is not unique in its desire to be free from terrorism.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/05/2009 4:21:22 PM

      BEEN THERE DONE THAT.. GUESS WHAT?? IF A PALISTIEN STOOD UP WITH A SIGN SAYING "PLEASE WE NEED FOOD" AND IS SHOT... THEN SPREAD YOUR BULL. BEEN THERE SEEN THAT DAILY..THEY ARE BORN AND LIVE AND DIE IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS,, CONTROLED BY THE ISREALIES,DU...SLAVES STARTED WHAT?.

  • Posted By: Rosee777 @ 01/05/2009 4:20:54 PM

    If everyone wants to know what to do...accept JESUS CHRIST as your LORD and SAVIOR and the violent actions and selfishness of man will cease. Israel and it's people are GOD's chosen, but this is also a metaphor for those of us who are also HIS chosen people, who are not Jewish and who do not live in Israel's state 'geographically'. JESUS is the world. Please learn about HIM, know HIM, accept HIM. GOD does nothing to hurt us, all violence and hatred is 'man' made.

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 01/05/2009 3:50:47 PM

    Obama should of never taken Hillarys name off the list.Obama had his lawers remove hillarys name off the list that left only his name on it .then ha appears and says he was chosen.he is where he is by default.I couldn't figure why some one woul chose obam when he has been up in washington just three years oh his senate term.Hillary knows the in and outs of washington.Michelle Obama the witch.She was never proud of this country all her adult life but she sure as hell is proud now,.people there is still a hell of a lot of racisim still going on in this country.Well have you believes in Obamas change yet.

    • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 4:20:46 PM

      Delores Fleming,

      Are you familiar with the lawsuit agains Obama? The one stating that he was born in Kenya, not HI.

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