A Plan of Attack For Peace

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  • Posted By: letoosh @ 01/05/2009 2:45:55 PM

    "If anything burns me up more is when someone states that Jewish suffering is far more meaniingful than anyone else is dispariging. Suffering is suffering."

    that might be the biggest problem of it all. People keep thinking themselves to be superior race then others, sounds a lot like the attitude Hitler had. Both parties will keep killing each other off because they dont know how to forgive. Sharing power will never be the solution, it has to be through forgiveness. And if it takes more then 100 years and millions of lives to accomplish it, so be it.

    • Posted By: peace2000 @ 01/05/2009 3:31:18 PM

      Dear Israeli voice... I appreciate your thoughts but the thing is at at government level and govt. officials Jews can never be our frndz.. niether christians... but at individual level.. they can be your frndz.. but in politics never... When Irani president mentioned that he will dstroy israel.. the US president and all other officials stood up and had strong words with irani presidents.. now US is not taking any action instead defending israels.. I dont know why US so much take side for isreal.. they know that because of isreal US is facing the worst crisis in the histor.

      BUt onc thing is for sure... what is happening in the world is one of the sign of the of judgment.

      • Posted By: ISRAELVOICE @ 01/05/2009 4:07:42 PM

        Dear So called peace2000, The jews does not want to be your friends nor the christians want too, but since that you all ready exist along with the rest of the species then we can at least have peace and live as humans and not as monkeys trying to still each other banana. US DOES NOT TAKE ISRAEL SIDE. THE US IS SIMPLY STATED: "THE US DOES NOT AND WILL NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS" If the us want to they alone or Israel alone in let the 57 hrs can dismental your friend Iran, and all its unfortunate arabs within israel border. And when you say Judgment? do you want to tell me that Mohammed with Alla will come and destroy all jews and Christians? lol com on dude be realistic. Just the fact that you said that :ARAB WILL NEVER BE FRIENDS WITH THE JEWS AND CHRISTiANS" That explaines I guess why the US is along with Israel. And the truth is that the US doesn't want you in the US as well... Sorry fact. And I am more then just a voice. Remember that Mohammed reffered to my decendants as "THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" by Mosa...Do you remember that? Ha never mind this will on forever. You and your people keep pushing we try to leave in peace with you. In 1948 when we inherit the lan back it was all desert look at it now. And for your information the Jews lived among the Arabs in peace and as friends for decades. It is the Palist, that doesn't want to be friends but remember that most arabs country can't stands Palistinies, you know it deep inside like I said fact is better then dreams...lol be friends???? wahts lol

    • Posted By: peace2000 @ 01/05/2009 3:29:08 PM

      Dear Israeli voice... I appreciate your thoughts but the thing is at at government level and govt. officials Jews can never be our frndz.. niether christians... but at individual level.. they can be your frndz.. but in politics never... When Irani president mentioned that he will dstroy israel.. the US president and all other officials stood up and had strong words with irani presidents.. now US is not taking any action instead defending israels.. I dont know why US so much take side for isreal.. they know that because of isreal US is facing the worst crisis in the histor.

      BUt onc thing is for sure... what is happening in the world is one of the sign of the of judgment.

  • Posted By: Kathy Montgomery @ 01/05/2009 2:17:29 PM

    Israel is not God's chosen people. God loves ALL of His children. How can we ever expect to have peace n this earth, if some people believe that they are more special and more important and more loved by God than others? I am certain that God is not happy about the fighting and killing that has been going on in the Middle East for over 60 years, since the end of World War II. Who is going to bring it to an end?

    Everyone knows that the Jews (and many others who came to their defense) were gravely mistreated in Nazi Germany. I believe that the U.S. should have offered the survivors refuge here in the U.S. and in other Allied countries, after the war. By establishing Israel as their homeland and displacing the Palestinians from their homes, we created a situation that could only lead to ongoing conflict between the Jews and the Palestinians.

    I believe that it is incumbent upon the U.S. government to honestly broker a fair and just solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Palestinians cannot continue to be forced to accept the same kind of tyranny that the Jews were forced to accept in Nazi Germany. Israelis must begin to put themselves in the shoes of the Palestinians. Would THEY be happy with the way they are mistreating the Palestinians? WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. WE ALL HAVE COMMON NEEDS FOR SUSTENANCE AND RESPECT AND JUSTICE!!!! LET US ALL BEGIN TO WORK FOR PEACE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD!!!!!! LET US PRAY THAT BARACK OBAMA WILL BE MUCH MORE SUCCESFUL THAN OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IN BRINGING ABOUT WORLD PEACE!!!!!

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:32:49 PM

      "God loves ALL of His children. "

      He has a funny way of showing it.

      • Posted By: YESHUAZ GIRL @ 01/05/2009 4:07:39 PM

        I DIDNT WRITE THE BIBLE
        IT SAYS THEY ARE HIS CHOSEN
        READ IT YOURSELF.
        NOT ALL PEOPLE ON EARTH ARE GODS CHILDREN.THOSE WHO BELONG TO GOD ARE THOSE WHO DO HIS COMMANDS
        YOU CANNOT LIVE AS PART OF THE WORLD(CASUAL LIVING , DOING WHATEVER U WANT) AND BELONG TO HIM.
        U MUST COME OUT OF THIS WORLD,,APART FROM THEM.....DO NOT LIVE LIKE THEM....LIVE FOR GOD AND DO WHAT HE SAYS IN THE BIBLE..
        IF U DONT READ THE BIBLE,,U CANT BELONG TO HIM
        U ARE TRANSFORMED BY READING BIBLE, BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
        GOD WILL DRAW U.
        IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN UR HEART.
        SEEK HIM WHILE U STILL CAN.
        MANY THAT CLAIM THEY BELONG TO GOD...DO NOT REALLY BELONG.

  • Posted By: peacefullgirl @ 01/05/2009 3:47:59 PM

    The world today must recognize Israel and USA government are the biggest terrorists on earth. Because they neglect the human rights. even when is the bigest victim are hundreds of childrens and womans .which are strict to use. And they kill as many civilians as they can. Israel needs to look in the mirror and see the Nazi like ghettos it creates.

    • Posted By: DanTap @ 01/05/2009 4:05:59 PM

      Wow you are dumb. No Country does more for others than the US. THis is the greatest nation in the history of man. I really hope you don't live in the US. If you do get out. Hamas targets civilians that is what makes them terrorist. Isreal targets military target and some civilians get killed mostly because Hamas likes to hide behind civilians. You probably can't understand this so why do i even try but nonetheless I will.

    • Posted By: bmunk @ 01/05/2009 3:54:17 PM

      I think it would behoove you to look up the terms, "terrorist", "human rights", and "Nazi".

  • Posted By: HatetoLove @ 01/05/2009 3:22:28 PM

    There will never be peace between these two until the rest of the world steps in...people think that the States has a big say in everything....ya they do...but arent they cowards....how much more death and blood on their hands must there be for people to open their eyes that this is wrong and disgusting....
    But remember Isreal has the right to defend themselves we have been told but against what 500 dead civilians....i am sick of every country defending Isreal...come on open your eyes how can anybody be human and say this is right....Isreal will have there day....and i cant wait because they deserve for worse then peace!!! they dont even know what that means sick bastards....

    • Posted By: YESHUAZ GIRL @ 01/05/2009 3:28:44 PM

      IF IT WERENT FOR ISRAELS UNBELIEF, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GRAFTED IN.
      THANX TO U ISRAEL..
      YOU PEOPLE NEED TO READ UP ON THE TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN,,IT IS ALL THERE,,,RIGHT THERE IN THE WORD OF GOD. WHY ARE YOU AFRAID TO READ THE BIBLE.....PERHAPS THE TRUTH MIGHT SCARE YOU, BUT DONT WE ALL WANT THE TRUTH?
      WHY DOES THIS LIFE CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THE LIES IN THIS WORLD.
      COME NOW WHILE YOUWHILE YOU STILL CAN...COME TO YESHUA/JESUS CHRIST AND BE SAVED

      AFTER ALL ROMANS CLAIMS ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED.
      ALL ISRAEL
      THEY ARE GODS CHOSEN

      • Posted By: MM_SR @ 01/05/2009 3:36:31 PM

        You say chosen as if its a good thing. Your chosen to suffer, that's all

        • Posted By: bmunk @ 01/05/2009 3:59:30 PM

          Dude, what's wrong with you, MM? Did mom not hug you enough or something?

          • Posted By: MM_SR @ 01/05/2009 4:05:29 PM

            Ha ha! No i just feel bad for those Palestinian children who are dying on the hospital floors because their aren't enough beds or doctors to attend to them

        • Posted By: YESHUAZ GIRL @ 01/05/2009 3:50:31 PM

          DO U KNOW HOW OUE JESUS SUFFERED FOR US ON THAT CROSS? THE WRATH OF GOD PUT ON HIM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OURS.
          AND WE ARE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SUFFERING....IF YOU TRULY BELONG TO GOD,, WE KNOW WE ARE TO SUFFER..
          THE COST OF BELONGING TO HIM....
          WE ARE TO BE A LIVING SACRIFICE.
          WE SUFFER BECAUSE HE SUFFERED.....
          IT IS NOT I THAT LIVES, BUT HE LIVES IN ME.
          NO LONGER MY LIFE, BUT HIS
          THANK YOU JESUS

    • Posted By: DanTap @ 01/05/2009 3:28:36 PM

      The World doesnt have to step in. They need to stay out. Let Isreal get rid of every threat. Let them kill every member of Hamas and any other terrorist group that kills its citizens. By the way there are dead civilians because the cowards (Hamas) hide amongst them.

      • Posted By: MM_SR @ 01/05/2009 3:33:41 PM

        Hamas is a resistance group. The Palestinians ARE Hamas. Israel is pretending that there's a difference between the two so it doesnt get accused of genocide.

  • Posted By: Butterfly Effect @ 01/05/2009 4:03:35 PM

    jIHAD TERRORIST WILL NEVER ALTER THEIR BRAND OF VIOLENCE DEMANDED BY THEIR RELIGION AND THEIR SANTANIC PROPHET. PICK A SIDE AND FIGHT TO THE DEATH. IT'S ALL THAT CAN BE DONE.
    There may be moderate muslims, but Islam is a violent religion pure and simple - JUST READ. Israel knows that talking may be good propaganda, "but the thud of bombs is better" (WS RFTR).
    Its a disgrace how the NYT prints article after article condemning Israel, while leftist Europe opens their ass to every dirty Palestinian arab who walks into their country. All the Palestines would do is turn a vibrant area back into a filthy, festering slum (JUST LIKE GAZA before the Israeli attacks - it's simply what they do best since Arabs are probably the laziest race on the planet).
    When this is over, what???s left of Hamas will be back to throwing rocks for a while - if they're too lazy to work, then they need someone else to blame other than themselves.
    Lazy, coward Zahar is hiding in a hole pleading for the women and children to strike a crushing blow against Israel, as what is left of Hamas teenage rock/rocket throwers is blown to bits. Is Gaza hash that good? Israel should take Gaza back once and for all - and throw the lazy unemployable hordes (who make up the bulk of the Hamas numbers) out for good. There is no dealing with terrorists - unless you are dealing death - that is the only thing the dirty jihad pigs understand - so give it them. Blast them back into the stone age - in the end it will save lives.
    As for the dispicable French...who cares what they say or do. They act likes its the turn of 19th century and they still matter. Well they don't any more.

  • Posted By: whyislam101 @ 01/05/2009 4:03:33 PM

    WhyIslam101 is created to provide you with Factual and Valid information regarding Islam and to anwser any question's or concern's you may have relating towards Islam. We use many sources for our statement's about islam, and why many media sources provide misleading information.Brother's and Sister's please invite new member's to join WhyIslam101. We need to show the true meaning of Islam, and not what the Media misleads them to think. Tell as many friend's or family member's to join with us, and to help spread the word of Islam. www.whyislam101.webs.com

    -Jazakallahu Khayran

  • Posted By: conservative demo @ 01/05/2009 4:02:48 PM

    Isn't it perfect how we exhalt the clintons in this article. Bill was very busy with Monica while trying to evade detection
    by the lovely Mrs Clinton. When exactly did he find time to spend with middle east affairs.
    It seems to me that he spent more time working on internal affairs. Funny how some folks tune in only when the going gets rough for their team. Guess what, through it all there may come a mild form of peace after victory.

  • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 3:10:38 PM

    Me 1234,

    Islamites view anything that was once controlled by Islam to be Islamic lands.

    You are correct in your list, but you stopped to soon. More lands are as follows.
    1, France to just outside Paris.
    2. The Balkan Peninusla up Vienna,
    3. The Southern half of Italy, including Rome.
    4, All the islands in the Mediterranean Sea.
    5. Most of India.

    These are all "Occupied Territories", Moslems want us to believe that only the West Bank & Gaza are Occupied Territories.

    I use to think Israel was irrelevant, then I realized that: Whatever happens to Israel will happen to all Infidels in due time.

    • Posted By: bmunk @ 01/05/2009 3:45:18 PM

      Did you just call me an infidel? What year is it again? I'm getting confused. At any rate, I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome you to the 21st century. Come on and join us, it'll be fun.

      • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 4:01:28 PM

        bmunk,

        I don't remember calling anyone an infidel. But be that as it may.

        I am an Infidel & I live in the House of War. My name & address are provided by the Koran.

        BTW: I am an Infidel & Proud of it.

        In this case the moniker Infidel is to be taken as a badge of honor.

  • Posted By: whyislam101 @ 01/05/2009 4:00:45 PM

    WhyIslam101 is created to provide you with Factual and Valid information regarding Islam and to anwser any question's or concern's you may have relating towards Islam. We use many sources for our statement's about islam, and why many media sources provide misleading information.Brother's and Sister's please invite new member's to join WhyIslam101. We need to show the true meaning of Islam, and not what the Media misleads them to think. Tell as many friend's or family member's to join with us, and to help spread the word of Islam. www.whyislam101.webs.com

    -Jazakallahu Khayran

  • Posted By: econ_rules_the_world @ 01/05/2009 4:00:23 PM

    Psymn - You are on point my friend!

  • Posted By: DanTap @ 01/05/2009 3:22:47 PM

    There is a path to peace. WAR. lets stop prolonging the inevitable. Everytime the two sides engage the world sends diplomats to negotiate a cease fire at all costs. Well how come no one came to negotiate a cease fire when japan attacked Pearl Harbor or when Hitler invaded Poland or in Korea or in Vietnam or any number of wars. Why does Isreal have to justify itself to the world for its self defense. The way to peace is to eliminate every danger to Isreal. It is Isreals right and it is their governments duty to protect its citizens. Get rid of Hamas, every one of them, everywhere you find them. If they are in a mosque blow it up, If they are in a apartment building let the residents know you coming and get rid of it, attack them with unmanned vehicles, with manned vehicles with snipers with bombs. Eliminate every threat. What would we do if Mexico started launching rockets into California or Texas. It would take minutes before we authorized our air force to take out the threat. Sometime the best way, the only way to peace is WAR.

    • Posted By: conroypaw @ 01/05/2009 3:58:02 PM

      LOL! This is the best crap I've heard all day. Let's al become atheists so we can all live in peace. Yeah! That worked for the Soviet Union. Let's supress religion in the name of science. Let's remove all morality forced on us that religion has brought. In that way, we can massacre millions of people and not feel bad about it. Stalin was really good at that. Science may do a lot of things. It gave us the "survival of the fittest" mentality we have today. It allowed us to create nuclear weapons. It permits us to live without consequences believing that "they'll come up with a cure or solution one day" to the disaster we create for ourselves today. Science, however, can not fill the yearning for something personal to believe in. O Laws of Thermodynamics, how we worship and love thee. We even sin against thee while believing in evolution. Nice. Very nice. =P

  • Posted By: Psymn @ 01/05/2009 3:56:28 PM

    Russia coming in on the side of Palestine huh? Do you know how many separatist groups in Russia want the same thing that the Palestinian groups want? Russia just sends in the tanks and blows them up. Why risk internal instability and international war to help some Palestinians?

    In fact many countries have this same issue. What did GB do with the Irish? What did the USA do with the Indian uprisings? If those seem too long ago, imagine it now. Imagine a native tribe outside Seattle or LA started behaving like Hamas? What would the USA do? What would Iraq, Iran or Turkey do if the Kurd corners of their countries behaved like Hamas?

    Some people on this chain have pointed to war with Mexico as a parallel, but I think you need to imagine terrorist with native populations as a closer parallel. Every country that has faced this sort of issue has gone in and wiped them out. None has had a foe as angry and bent on destruction as Hamas.

    I am not saying the Zionists are good guys, but no nation has a right to criticize Israel. Hamas can stop firing their nearly useless rockets at any time. I am sure the leaders would surrender more quickly if they were on the front lines instead of safe under a hospital or orphanage some where.

  • Posted By: abigail8 @ 01/05/2009 3:55:57 PM

    Stop the rockets, stop being human shields for Hamas terrorists, stop blowing yourselves up in the streets. The media is playing in to the psychological game the terrorists are playing looking for sympathy as they continue to fire rockets putting Israelis in harms way. Just like the Arab states that didn't want the Palestinians, Israel wants to be done with the problem. They have the worlds support already for a state. They can't stop long enough to get what they want. So, you have to ask yourself what do they want......nothing short of the total destruction of Israel. When the world realized this, they will finally deal with the situation.

  • Posted By: A Proud and Peaceloving Jew @ 01/05/2009 2:31:48 PM

    Sorry but I think this article twists to facts to support the authors' preconceived notions. First, the "demographic imperative" that an Israel that includes the West Bank will be mostly Arab is old news and has been debunked by newer statistics. Second, most Israeli and American Jews do not want the US to force Israel ("Tough Love") to risk its very existence by handing over most of the West Bank before Israel's right to exist is acknowledged by a stable, effective Palestinian government that speaks for all Palestinians and that has the ability to keep its promises. Third, there is even less support among Israeli or American Jews for ceding sovereignty over the "Holy Basin" than for other parts of Jerusalem or the West Bank. Lastly, you do not mention Jewish refugees from future Palestinian land and from other Arab countries, who outnumber Arab refugees.

    • Posted By: drmichaelbell @ 01/05/2009 3:54:11 PM

      A Proud and Peaceloving Jew should rethink his or her position. As regards ???First, the "demographic imperative" that an Israel that includes the West Bank will be mostly Arab is old news and has been debunked by newer statistics.??? He/She should consult ???Palestinians grow by a million in decade???, a Jerusalem Post English-language article published on Feb 9, 2008. (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1202246355071&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)
      The article states in part, ???The Palestinian population in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem has reached 3.76 million, up from 2.89 million a decade ago, according to census results released Saturday.??? For God???s sake Proud and Peaceloving, that???s a 30% increase in ten years! Jews, no matter where they live, Europe, U.S. or Israel, are not having babies near that fast!

  • Posted By: econ_rules_the_world @ 01/05/2009 3:53:04 PM

    The author couldn't be giving Bill a bigger Lewinsky! Please, guys, do your research a little more and realize that every administration including the current one has made progress, but it is ultimately up to Israelis and Palestinians to broker their own peace deal. To think we can effectively intervene is a bit arrogant.

    See the following from teh Voice of America on 12/19/2008:

    Speaking through a translator, Mr. Abbas thanked President Bush for supporting the idea of an independent Palestinian state.

    "You were the first sitting president who accepted as a policy the establishment of two states, the state of Israel and the state of Palestine, living next to each other in peace and security," he said. "And this policy has become a reality in every corner of the world."

    Oh yeah, that's right. Clinton was a gad. Bush is a devil.

    Newsweek continued to amaze me on its bias.

  • Posted By: greenearth @ 01/05/2009 3:50:39 PM

    Dear bakercity - what I said about Russia taking Israel down is not ignorant - it's the truth.
    Just like Bush hates the Arab nation, Russians cannot stand Israelis and Bush at that. So, if it comes down
    to it, they will use this opportunity to their advantage.

  • Posted By: econ_rules_the_world @ 01/05/2009 3:50:01 PM

    Wow, could the author be pulling a bigger Lewinsky? Bush has also made progress. Simply put, there was no need to do anything diplomatically because there has been plenty of fighting between Hamas and Fatah.

    I bet no real "newsworthy" publication would print the following (from Voice of America on 12/19/2008):

    Speaking through a translator, Mr. Abbas thanked President Bush for supporting the idea of an independent Palestinian state.

    "You were the first sitting president who accepted as a policy the establishment of two states, the state of Israel and the state of Palestine, living next to each other in peace and security," he said. "And this policy has become a reality in every corner of the world."

    --------------------

    But oh year, that's right, it was Clinton that clothed the naked, fed all the children and he rides a white horse into the night as he saves us all from our own humanity... give me a break!

    Every administration has dealt with this. Only the Israelis and Palestinians can solve it for themselves. To think we can intervene effectively is somewhat arrogant.

  • Posted By: egyptianstar @ 01/05/2009 3:41:03 PM

    O.k O.k I know this may be a little racist but I think the Israelis need to get out of the Palestinean territory and give them a break. They need to stop fighting and using violence to get what they need (or actually want) because all its doing is causing is war and more war. The poor and innocent men women and children are dying everyday and they just stand there and watch with joyness overcoming there face with every death! And look all over the world no one is doing anything about it they know what they should do but they just don't do it if they are gonna do something they should act quickly because soon enough there is gonna be no one left in the Arab world to defend the poor Palestineans! I also think that people need to stop blaming Egypt on everything. In fact Egypt is the most country that helped Palestine. They are supplying them with food and aid and everything they need,so please fellow Arabs stop hatin. ( yes i am Egyptian a proud one at that). And excuse me the person who posted a comment named "person with an open mind" you are a hundred percent WRONG!!!!! What the heck are you talkin about you abviously dont know what your saying the Israelis are the ones sending off the big rocket bombs and they are the ones starting this whole thing and yes you are saying all Muslims are terrorists based on the way your saying this so you need to shut your mouth because your obviously not a person with an open mind and its people like you that I absolutely hate. Thank you for letting me express my thoughts and no offense to anyone.

    • Posted By: An Open Minded Canadian @ 01/05/2009 3:49:42 PM

      maybe Hamas should stop firing rockets into Israel first? Don't you think? Forget that it's Jews and Muslims for a moment. Any country has a right to defend themselves and their citizens. What's this "Get out of Palestine" BS? What would you do if your neighbor kept firing bullets over your fence and hitting innocent people in your yard?

      -An open minded Canadian

    • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 3:48:41 PM

      Egyptian Star,

      Of course not all Moslems are not terrorists. If a Moslem is not a terrorist, the Islamic terrrs kill them.

      The Muslim Cemetery Caretakers in Mubai, that said "the Islamic terrs that killed all those innocent people cannot be buried in Islamic Holy Ground because they were not true to the beliefs of Islam. I commend those Cemetery Caretakers & I pray that Islamic terrs don't kill them.

  • Posted By: LNeff1 @ 01/05/2009 3:49:11 PM

    This is really very simple . . . You don't want Israeli retaliation? Don't shoot the rockets. P.S. People who tried to win by force AND LOST, have no RIGHT to demand ANYTHING from the victors

  • Posted By: abigail8 @ 01/05/2009 3:48:48 PM

    The media is bias. All you see is the struggling people in Gaza. How about reminding the people of Gaza that they are the human shield of the Hamas terrorists. The world already wants a Palestinian state. They have the support. If they would stop sending rockets and blowing themselves up long enough to allow others to spoon feed a state for them, peace would occur.

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