A Plan of Attack For Peace

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  • Posted By: kell_belle76 @ 01/05/2009 2:51:15 PM

    This article points out that the Palestines have been bombing the Israelis daily... Yet now that Israel is defending itself, and attempting to put a stop to the Palestinian-sheltered Hamas (who, by the way, have not held up their end of previous peace agreements.. and let's face it: if Palestine wanted them out so badly, why haven't they attempted to get rid of them?), we have a mass of people saying that Israel is terrible, and has no right to do so.

    If your neighbor's house was bombed, would you not want to defend your home, your family? How many of you would sit back and say "No, we deserve to be bombed because the people bombing us believe we stole this land from them. So, 60 years later this is what we get." Seriously?!?!?! And since when is Israel a NEW country? Have any of you studied ancient cultures, or read the Old Testament? Granted, it hasn't always been a country, but they are not a new people. If the Palestinians wanted the peace so many of you claim they desire, why do they continue to bomb Israel? Israel has never attempted to take more land than what was allotted to them in 1948. They've NEVER broken a peace treaty, until after they've been attacked and must defend themselves...

    I also really appreciate those of you who make mention that "innocent women" are being killed in Palestine... Let's take a look at other extreme Muslim groups, who are often trained in the same camps, and taught the same things, as those residing in Palestine. Who do they often send to be human bombers? Children and women. How do these oh-so-noble fighters take cover? With children and women, yet you assume a different set of extreme Muslims are different?? Where's the logic in this?

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/05/2009 3:02:02 PM

      I guess being born, raised, and die as Captive is kool with you... to be a lifetime slave and told when, what, and where, daily.. would you CONFORM???

  • Posted By: kobe24youbeast @ 01/05/2009 2:42:31 PM

    lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! watch me crank dat bird walk n watch me do me. all yall r wrong. digg this playa the muslim have no right to be getting killed. the jews and isrealies are fags. hit me back wit a comment if u have somethin to say. OH YA GO SUCK A FAT ONE! boot up or shut up HOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:46:05 PM

      Oh, look. Someone taught Bubba Sparks how to run a computer.

      Will wonders never cease?

      • Posted By: kobe24youbeast @ 01/05/2009 2:54:58 PM

        *** all yall ***. how just called me bubba sparx.? u just mad becuase islam is the best religon there is on earth u fags. and i crank my bird walk all up n down yall faces u fags. and if yall got a problem wit it come see me den ***. hahahahahahaha

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:59:25 PM

          Ah, it CAN be taught.

  • Posted By: soncollins @ 01/05/2009 2:59:17 PM

    i actually agree with willem - in our own human misery we have come to this - i am not religious just a humanist and for what it is worth the only thing this is truly about is survival. There are too many people on this earth and when a habitat becomes over populated only 2 things can happen. I believe the earth will solve this dilemma for us all. So for all you religious, cultural, sexist nuts out there with the pace that we are destroying the earth and it resources we may soon be counting down the days as did the dinosaurs.

  • Posted By: kmuhsen @ 01/05/2009 2:12:08 PM

    Well, we saw the greatness of the un beatable mighty powerfull Israeli army with all their expensive fancy weapons paid by poor US tax payers,,,yes we saw them running like scared sheep and screaming like girls during their battels with Hezbulla( again some braev men with some anti tanks weapons) in south lebanon...

    for the israeli soldiers it was unusual to stand in battel ground and shoot at other people who can shoot back at them , they got so confused and scared!! as they won all ther previous battles by simply bombing from distance and using aircrafts..they forgot how the real battle ground looks lke,,,but i think hezbullah reminded them by now.

    for the uniforms of hamas,,,well they have been under siege with closed borders by israel for the past 8 months , with no food, money medicine or electricity..so i guess they must have forgotten to buy some uniforms so they will all look neat and nice during battle...!!!

    after few weeks of getting there ass kicked, they stoped made a big you turn back to where they came from and started pointing fingers at each other for the miss they made!

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:15:09 PM

      I hope all that boasting keeps you warm at night, once all of your houses are blown to pieces.

      You are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

      • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:50:55 PM

        No, what he means, believe it or not, people are still fighting for thier basic rights, to live.

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:57:26 PM

          Odd. It seems that their rockets did not have the desired effect, then.

    • Posted By: newmexicoflygirl@yahoo.com @ 01/05/2009 2:50:40 PM

      You've made a very good point about how these Hezbullah terrorists are very good at shooting people point-blank. They've had plenty of practice! The reason Israel uses planes to bomb targets is to take advantage of technology that allows them to be very precise in what they hit, in order to prevent or at least severaly limit civilian casualties. Yet the yellow-belly terrorists embed themselves in urban areas amoung civilians so that a) there are more civilian casulaties and b) they can later decry the acts of the Israelis as being terrorism. Get real!

  • Posted By: kell_belle76 @ 01/05/2009 2:56:33 PM

    Hey Pali- Last I checked, Israel has always been one of US's allies, and carried through on it's word. And really, they want to suck our blood? Where do you come up with this crap?! Please find three notable sources that make mention of the Isaelis hating the US. PLEASE!!!!

  • Posted By: thetruth911 @ 01/05/2009 2:36:59 PM

    Israel was the first to attack the Gaza Strip. These people have home made rockets, the Jews have tanks, F-16's, Humvees, modern arms, the Palestinians have rocks, and home made rockets. Well you be the judge, who is in the right...? The Israelis are Palestinians, they are Semitic, the both come from the same forefathers. The Jews want their land, as was written in secret documents in 1948. The solution is for the Israelis to get out, and give back the land to the Arab Palestinians, then and only then will their be peace in that Land. But I tell you, as long as our country the U.S.A, continues supporting these heneous, attacks of terror on the Gaza Strip, their will never be peace. Once again what can home made rockets and stones going to accomplish agains the Jewish American backed modernized army. Yes, they shoot home made rockets into the Jewish state and towns, but come on what is that compared to F-16's firing bombs that can kill hundreds. Please you be the judge...! By the way, the Arab states in and around Palestine do support the Gaza strip and the west Bank. But they do not want to become the next Iraq. So for the sake of their people, they are holding back their anger. But that fuse is short. Let's hope that the Israelis wise up. There is a reason why they were kicked out of Europe during and after World War 2, as was the case in Poland, Czech Republic, and other European States. I'm not for violence or rasicism, but I tell you as an American citizen, the Goverment did a good deed for the Peoples of Poland. Maybe the people should rise up in the U.S., get them out of our Goverment, and this country, and then I guarantee you, there will be peace in the Middle East. Check out Obamas Cabinet, some of them are known Israeli citizens, who fought and served in the armed forces of Israel. What are they doing, advising an American President? As I stated before, you be the judge, do the research, and maybe you'll realize, that the U.S. Goverment does not serve the will of the People.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:39:40 PM

      "Israel was the first to attack the Gaza Strip."

      Rubbish. In this current mess, Hamas was firing rockets for a week before Israel responded.

      Historically speaking, Gaza didn't even come under Israeli control until they siezed it after being attacked by a bag of the local nations.

      Please make a better effort to be honest. Thanks.

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/05/2009 2:51:32 PM

        your right they killed 5 Isrealies during this whole ordeal,mmm.. a drunk native American killed a famy of 5 while driving drunk... where are the chain bombs and the M.A.U. or F-22s they kill more drunk, than the Palisteines with slingshots...which are no compitition to a Apache with 30 Sidewinders in a neighborhood to get one man hu...Normal accepted responce for years...deal...

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:56:12 PM

          Who fired first?

          Oh, yes. Hamas.

  • Posted By: YESHUAZ GIRL @ 01/05/2009 2:56:00 PM

    God of Israel.IS in control...in and thru HIS SON JESUS..YESHUA MESSIAH.
    U CANT MESS WITH ISRAEL AND WIN

  • Posted By: Eagles_Heart @ 01/05/2009 1:55:38 PM

    TThe bully boys of today???s Arabian geographical areas are Hamas. They are nothing but gangsters, criminals even to their own fellow Muslims. Palestine IS NOT A COUNTRY! It has never been recognized by the UN nor valid Arabian countries like Jordan and Egypt.

    The West Bank, which includes Jerusalem, is a disputed territory, but Hamas has no interest in it. And, in fact, the West Bank was turned over to Israel by Jordan, just as Gaza was turned over to Israel by Egypt. In return, Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt, and withdrew their administration of the Gaza strip. This was conciliation on all sides and, in the hands of the sane would continue to be mutually beneficial to all.

    The West Bank???s Muslim leader, in fact, is a moderate and there has been an accord of sorts between him and Israel. He and his aides reject Hamas! The Gaza strip on the other hand has been taken over by the rabid Hamas whose self-aggrandizing power obsession has NOTHING to do with the Qu???ran and everything to do with a fanatic group of seriously malfunctioning human beings.

    When Hamas took over the Gaza strip it was a case of the lunatics taking over the asylum. For survival???s sake, don???t start thinking ???negotiation???! The word is not in their vocabulary.

    ISRAEL IS A COUNTRY recognized by the UN and by all of modern western civilization... the key word is civilization. Hamas is NOT ???civilized.???

    Israel voluntarily turned over Sinai to Egypt and the Gaza strip to indigenous Arabs with the goal of peaceful co-existence.

    Hamas does not give a snap of the fingers for their fellow Muslim villagers in Gaza. On the contrary.. the more they can lure Israel into defending itself and the more world publicity Hamas can achieve by occasional civilian casualties the better Hamas likes it. Where is world media???s tally of the Israeli civilians over recent years? The busloads of innocent women and school children? The Israeli civilians and OTHER MUSLIMS under Israel???s benign protection killed by Hamas?

    Peace? Depending upon ???negotiation??? with Hamas? In. Your. Dreams.

    Hamas has one goal: wipe Israel from the face of the earth.. and then proceed westward!!!! You don???t believe it? Read the facts! Read modern history! And be very aware that no ???promises??? of Hamas will be kept. ???Negotiation,??? people, is a word alien to Hamas.

    What Israel is doing is not just protecting their own homeland; they are protecting Western Civilization! Don???t believe me? Check out the immigration figures of Muslims into France, Netherlands, Great Britain, the United States.

    Any group that sees nothing wrong in setting up its own fellow Muslims for death, whether by encouraging suicide, storing military tools of war in civilian homes putting them at jeopardy, using children to hide behind, MUST be dealt with as the insane racketeers... ha! rocketeers! that they are.

    Give Israel aid, not censure! They are the first line of defense agains

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:55:32 PM

      Now i have to say, you are the correct definition of ignorance.

    • Posted By: ScienceProf @ 01/05/2009 2:16:39 PM

      What it comes down to in my mind is the morally-sick obeisance of American politicians to Israel's every request/demand on the Federal treasury. I am a uniloyal American. I served my country. I pay taxes.

      I can think of no reason whatever to lavish financial/military support on the UN creation, Israel.

      Israelis are NOT my fellow Americans, and their quislings in the United States Congress and Executive Suite do NOT speak for me in their bought and paid-for loyalty to a foreign entity.

      One of the geniuses here should be able to tell me why I MUST support Israel.

      But none has ever attempted to offer that information.

      We have NO formal treaty agreement witth Israel. However, It is nauseatingly repeated that we share a "special relationship". Yet I have yet to see ANY evidence of a quid pro quo from our "special relations" in Israel.

      They are NOT a significant ally of the United States. They are NOT even GRATEFUL for the $100s billions of domestic and military aid we've lavished/squandered on them.

      We made a choice in 1948 - with our significant involvement in the UN creation of Israel - to defend Israel forever.

      Regardless of the political and military consequences of thumbing our noses at Israel's appropriate enemies.

  • Posted By: Pali486709 @ 01/05/2009 2:48:52 PM

    Dear Israelis, I know that you missed the stove...... Poor you, its being made and will grill you soon for the second time.

    Peace

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:55:14 PM

      Good luck with that.

  • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 01/05/2009 2:54:48 PM

    Hamas, in itself, is not the problem. Yes, Hamas refuses to recognize the "legitimacy" of Israel...so what? Israel refuses just as stubbornly, to recognize the "legitimacy" of Hamas. Both Hamas and the government of Israel were elected by their own national consituency...they MUST deal with each other (and Hamas tried to do so, even absent the refusal to grant the formal recognition Israelis claim they want...Hamas honored a cease fire the Israelis never even recognized, until it was over; Israeli raids, assassinations and other provocations never halted at all, so it was a one-sided ceasefire anyway, even before the rockets resumed).

    The problem is that the Israeli right wing refused to even TRY to deal with the elected government of the Palestinians (ironic, when one considers the role that Israel played in CREATING Hamas in the first place, as a means to divide Palestinians). Israel should not decide who govern Palestinians, any more than Palestinians are permitted to decide who should govern Israel. The spinmeisters who see ONLY the volence of the occupied people, and never notice that of the occupiers, will never get it. THEY are part of the problem.

  • Posted By: DK777 @ 01/05/2009 2:02:40 PM

    Israel and the Israelites existed and were there for thousands of years before the Muslim invaders came and called themselves Palestinians. "Palestinian grievance" is a myth, a fable, there is no such thing. No Muslim has any historical right to the land of Israel. Israel was there first, their first and second temples were there before Islam was created.

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:54:21 PM

      correction, land never existed before WWII, people yes..open ur mind ddk..it helps! but if you open your mind a bit, you maybe surprised. :)

  • Posted By: Americanidiotnomore @ 01/05/2009 2:53:41 PM

    When Egypt attacked 1973. They attacked Israeli forces IN Egypt who were occupying their land. They did NOT attack Israel.

    Israeli air strikes are in retaliation of Palestinian rocket attacks. Why doesn't the start of the article mention that the Palestinians are under military occupation and have been for decades. The Pro-Israeli bias in the media is sickening. It does little to serve the interest of the average citizen. Israeli or Arab.

  • Posted By: letoosh @ 01/05/2009 2:53:30 PM

    its not about what the religion is or the land, its about humans not be able to forgive. im not well informed about the history of man kind in terms of wars etc. because its all the same crap to me. you kill and conquer. very sad.

  • Posted By: thetruth911 @ 01/05/2009 2:53:05 PM

    Everyone watch the Movie death in Gaza by Brittish Journalist James Miller. Look it up at google. or copy and paste the following link. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/death-of-james-miller/4199975019/?icid=VIDURV12

  • Posted By: ScienceProf @ 01/05/2009 2:51:52 PM

    Flatland,

    Thank you for recognizing that the American people are FINALLY coming to view its step-child, Israel, for what it really is. A barbaric entity that cloaks its barbarism in self-righteousness - at yours and My expense.

    FOR NO REASON!!

  • Posted By: drmichaelbell @ 01/05/2009 2:50:40 PM

    "Israelis may be more open to such pressure now than they were in the past. Time is no longer on their side. Arab birthrates are rising." This applies as much to the United States as it does to the Middle East. It's hard to imagine Israel surviving for very long without continued U.S. diplomatic and financial support. Yet, this continued support should not be taken for granted. Through immigration the U.S. now has a sizeable and growing Muslim population, and U.S. senators and representatives will do the bidding of whichever group is able to bring the most pressure to bear. Just last weekend, for the first time, I saw large numbers of Arab-Americans joined by other un-hyphenated Americans forcefully demonstrating against Israel???s actions in the Middle East.

    The Israelis don???t have, relatively speaking, a lot of time left. They should make the best deal they can while a friendly United States is here to help.

  • Posted By: Nondali @ 01/05/2009 2:12:49 PM

    We don't want to see horrible blasts in Gaza srip. Please stop tis.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:14:11 PM

      No problem. Stop shooting rockets.

      I fail to see why this is so difficult.

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/05/2009 2:40:08 PM

        they will stop,, when Isreal stoppes running there whole lives in concentration camps.

        I fail to see why no one understands,you try to hide in a 1,555,000person camp with 2,600,000 people in it?

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:49:28 PM

          Well, okay. But if they insist on fighting out of their weight, then perhaps they shouldn't complain when they get curb-stomped.

  • Posted By: tommycustom @ 01/05/2009 2:48:49 PM

    kobe
    that's a great comment

  • Posted By: Voice of Truth @ 01/05/2009 2:20:57 PM

    Flatland,

    There has never been a Palestinian state in the history of the land. The last autonomous state with Jerusalem as its capital was a Jewish State from the time of King David about 3 thousand years ago until the Romans destroyed it in 70 AD.
    BTW the Palestinains were offered a 2 state solution in 1947- a Jewish State alongside a Palestinian state. The Palestinains rejected it ..the Israeli's accepted theirs. The Arabs attacked Israel in May 1948 and the Jews won.
    From 1948 to 1967 Egypt and Jordan controlled Gaza and the West Bank respectively and not one attempt of making a Palestinian State.
    Maybe you should read a history book or even a Bible before admonishing others of their ignorance!

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:48:15 PM

      just open your heart..your mind too..if that possible!

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:47:22 PM

      Should we say, the world is guilty? after WWII or before?

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:38:38 PM

      Vioce i did and done, <<<History major, yes arabs had the deal with england, yes they did what they did, but stop saying the right to exisit. both have the right to exist.

  • Posted By: gmgpswan @ 01/05/2009 2:47:21 PM

    If we could somehow get everyone in Gaza to convert to Judaism there wouldn't be any reason to fight, now would there?

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