A Plan of Attack For Peace

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  • Posted By: Apathetic Citizen @ 01/05/2009 2:47:11 PM

    What a flawed article. The settlements in the West Bank must be dismantled with no exceptions. If Israel is to retain just one of these settlements, then that effectively means it has annexed lands which don't belong to it and is now a colonial power. The conflict didn't begin with Hamas lobbying rockets against Israel for a few weeks; it began with Israel placing Gaza into a chokehold and intentionally ruining any attempt for a moderate political government to fill in the void. Israel has been at odds at 4 UN Security Resolutions and the misleading wording inserted by the U.S. in several them ensure that Israel gets to pick and choose which lands it should withdraw from.

    Good grief, do any of you so-called journalists even bother doing any research before writing these articles?!

  • Posted By: ISRAELVOICE @ 01/05/2009 2:46:49 PM

    I believe that no matter what war isn't the answer. One of the solutions are that if Israel will build or rebuild a new city for the Palestinians, which will include houses schools, hospitals and super markets. And will be granted a window of time???perhaps three to five years???to petition international courts for compensation for what they have lost, perhaps as part of a massive regional redevelopment plan. In return The Palestinians will make a true commitment of peace with Israel and will recognize Israel as a jew state and the right to exist. This will work for sure. It will take time but it will work. Imagine two brothers "Issac & Isshmael" live in peach once again.

  • Posted By: ErinMS @ 01/05/2009 2:39:27 PM

    There has never been a Palestine. Palestinians are nomads who were rejected by their own people. Arab countries wish to exploit the plight of the Palestinians and blame everything on the Israelis in order to broker more support for their violent, terrorist acts. It's sad that the media continues to fall for this and fan the flames around the world. Hamas is to blame here. Israel and the people of Gaza would be able to live in peace if terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah would get out of the way, but as we have seen with other terrorists, this will never happen as they refuse to value any life, even their own. They will continue to kill each other and others they view as "the enemy." Israel honored the peace treaty and stood in restraint as they suffered through endless days of missiles landing in their territory by Hamas. Hamas refuses openly to stop firing rockets into Israel and refuses to recognize Israel as a state. They have declared war on Israel and want to destroy all of its people. Why should Israel have to stand by and allow rockets to land at their feet everyday? It is ridiculous to expect them to do so. If a border country attacked the U.K. or the U.S. everyday with missile fire, do you honestly believe either country would stand by and do nothing? Hamas IS in fact using their own people as human shields - they are cowards who fire rockets into Israel while hiding amongst innocent people who in the end are the ones hurt in all this mess. Israel gave up Gaza in an attempt to broker peace, but Hamas saw it as a way to get closer to the Israeli border so their rockets would fly farther into the country and harm more people. Israel simply wants Hamas to stop firing missiles into their country - I hardly think that is an unreasonable request. With no end in sight and no help from other allies, Israel took the action they needed to take to protect themselves. It's sad that innocent people are dying, but see this war for what it is - a terrorist organization using and exploiting its people to garner sympathy from the world while continuing to fire rockets and missiles into Israel - once they stop, Israel will stop. There is nothing wrong with Israel defending itself.

    • Posted By: soncollins @ 01/05/2009 2:44:24 PM

      thats the whole problem no one wants to take responsibility - everyone is to blame

  • Posted By: citizen Z @ 01/05/2009 2:42:27 PM

    It will never work. A corridor? Give them an inch they will take a mile. All Israel asked was to stop firing rockets at innocent people. It has been going on too long. What do the Palestinians think that after 5 years of poking someone on the shoulder 30-60 times a day they wouldn't get slapped?

  • Posted By: Pali486709 @ 01/05/2009 2:41:32 PM

    Why did the United States stick its nose on the borders between Egypt and Gaza?

    Is that related to its bloody business around the world? Well dear government, you're digging your own filthy grave.

  • Posted By: kobe24youbeast @ 01/05/2009 2:41:22 PM

    lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! watch me crank dat bird walk n watch me do me. all yall r wrong. digg this playa the muslim have no right to be getting killed. the jews and isrealies are fags. hit me back wit a comment if u have somethin to say. OH YA GO SUCK A FAT ONE! boot up or shut up HOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Wahhabi @ 01/05/2009 2:41:08 PM

    History Lesson

    The problem began in AD 636, when the Islamic armies came out of the Arabian Peninsula & captured the Jewish & Christian Holy Land.

  • Posted By: kobe24youbeast @ 01/05/2009 2:39:24 PM

    lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! watch me crank dat bird walk n watch me do me. all yall r wrong. digg this playa the muslim have no right to be getting killed. the jews and isrealies are fags. hit me back wit a comment if u have somethin to say. OH YA GO SUCK A FAT ONE! boot up or shut up HOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: hema012 @ 01/05/2009 2:39:10 PM

    cnn doesn't say the whole truth ,it just say 1/20 of the truth..gaza is boombed over the civilians ..they boombed 4 mosques ,food factories & many houses
    just search for the truth..........!

  • Posted By: Lori T @ 01/05/2009 2:37:37 PM

    If Hamas was sending rockets your way everyday, wanting you dead, not caring for anyone but Hamas ( forget the rest of the poor Palestians -they use them as shields) What would you do? Liie down and take it? put up your white flag and let them come into your home and rule over you? Wake Up people of the free world War is Ugly and Terrorists are uglier

  • Posted By: me1234 @ 01/05/2009 2:36:53 PM

    One wonders why no Palestinian state was created between 1949 and 1967...
    Or why the Arab and muslim (i.e. Pakistan) states voted against the original UN GE Resolution 194 calling dor the return of "refugees"...
    Or why the definition of a Pelastinian refugee included any on wheo had been in Britiish Manadate for TWO YEARS or more...
    Or why only Palestinian refugees are able to pass this status on from generation to generation...
    By this logic any Jew can say that they're a 100th generation refugee of the Roman/Muslim/Cusader expuilsions...
    Or why the Palestinians who are the MOST heavily subsidized group anywhere int the world are still in "camps" despite billions of dollars and exremely rich "brothers (Suadi, gulf states)...
    Or why the PNA charter of 1964 says West Bank is part of Jordan - not Palestine...
    There will only be peace when the Palestinians (and the rest of the Muslim world) get over their problem with Dhimmi's and accept the fact that Israel exists.
    Suggest that you read the Hamas charter (available online).
    Note that they believe that once land is conquered by Islam it belongs to Islam for all time (read Spain,. Balkans, Greece)
    Israel has tried "land for peace"... The only peace offered in return is that of the grave.

  • Posted By: soncollins @ 01/05/2009 2:36:27 PM

    I you read my earlier post you would know that I hope Israel make s decisive move against any palestinian that threatens her. However I also do not think Israels has been fair with how they have dealt with the palestinians nor have the palestinian been equitable with Israel. I still feel however you cannot commit your self to treating individuals in an aparthied manner and expect them to sit quietly and take it. This is exactly what is happening. And for the palestinians to not come to the table at all shows a lack of respect for a perceived (fictional enemy).

    Call it what you want - white men did it to the Indians to blacks and to jew - catholic to the protestants and hutu and tutsi

  • Posted By: soncollins @ 01/05/2009 2:10:11 PM

    Dk777

    If what you say is true then did the Nazi's have any right to treat Jews in a the same ways. What about the assyrians - the hittites did they not live in the land before Moses and Joshua

    • Posted By: DK777 @ 01/05/2009 2:20:35 PM

      Who ever is against Israel is against you know Who. If you want to go back to the oldest history book then you are right, Israelites did take their original land from those who were there originally. Whether you agree that it was by God's command or not, if those cultures and nations still existed, then they would have a valid claim. The Palestinians have no claim, this is just the bottom line. Israel is being nice in having given them back Gaza in the first place. Israel was being even nicer after giving it back, after they were attacked in war. if it were up to me, I would draw the international lines under the Biblical lines that were drawn by, you know Who.

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:33:46 PM

        "Who ever is against Israel is against you know Who."

        Golda Mier?

    • Posted By: BiancaL @ 01/05/2009 2:24:31 PM

      If what you say is true then did the Nazi's have any right to treat Jews in a the same ways. What about the assyrians - the hittites did they not live in the land before Moses and Joshua""

      Just to put thing in perspective and accurately.
      1) No, the assyrians and the hittites did not live in the land before Moses and Hoshua. The hittites were in Anatolia
      (modern Turkey). The assyrians were further east to Israel and actually attacked it many times.

      As for the Nazis and Jews. The Jews were full citizens of the European countries for many centuries. They didn't ask for land, they didn't ask for independence, they didn't blow anybody up or convert anyone and I could go on.
      That's a terrible comparison you made..

  • Posted By: factsearcher @ 01/05/2009 1:08:03 PM

    One simple choice:

    If you keep one thing in mind, it should be this: if there were no rockets shot into Israel, no arms buildup of military equipment, smuggled under several hundred tunnels that have been carefully constructed , then there would be nothing, absolutely nothing, not a gun, not a tank, not an airplane, not a paper airplane, from Israel going into Gaza.
    It is a simple choice. It is the most understandable and basic request: stop sending rockets, stop spending all of your energies making war or preparing for war. Leave Israel alone. That's all. Just leave Israel alone. That is what any country -- even besieged and thrown-to-the-Muslim-wolves Israel -- has a right, and a duty, to demand.

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:33:32 PM

      Muslim Wolves? Now why you call Muslim wolves? perhaps you never learned about islam yet. Do yourself a favor, learn about Islam. Yes that means reading fact. Do read plz.

  • Posted By: aboudalal @ 01/05/2009 2:07:58 PM

    the palestenians had no choice but to fight back after 16 years of talking, israel doesnot want to give back what they stole after israel kiled and kiched out the palestinains from homes ,farms ,land and towns.

    • Posted By: BiancaL @ 01/05/2009 2:32:28 PM

      The Israelis tried to make peace with the Palastinians and all it got was suicide bombers killing 1500 civilians and wounding ten's of thouands. How''s that for showing "good faith" on the Palastinian's part?

  • Posted By: news555 @ 01/05/2009 1:12:50 PM

    Recognize the suffering of the Palestinians and COMPENSATE! The only way to tranquilize people is to recognize their suffering and to compensate them!. Try it, and see the change. Jews have been victims so they can understand the process. Listen to the young and not to old men on both sides.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 1:24:08 PM

      Why should I compensate anyone? If they want a nicer standard of living, perhaps they should simply:

      1. Stop firing rockets, and

      2. Build something.

      Lastly, who the hell wants anyone "tranquilized"? Screw that...if they have a legitimate beef, and they do, they should be yelling their heads off (rather than, say, starting a war they can't possibly win).

      • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:31:22 PM

        Bastard, your name is enough. Do you really think Israel is permitting peace and the land division for no reason? It is cause they do understand that soon, it shall be a huge problem for Israel. Open your mind a bit Bastard! And do us a favor, see beyond your nose, Bastard! :)

  • Posted By: Perturbed by lies @ 01/05/2009 2:16:25 PM

    Klaidman says some Israeli leaders suggest Palestinians want to destroy Israel? The Hamas leaders say that themselves, as did Arafat. There is no country in the world that tolerates missiles being fired into it every day. What would the US do if Mexico tried that? You think the Mexican border regions would still exist after one day of such attacks? Israel has every right to stop these terrorists from attacking it every day. The Hamas cowards shoot from urban areas because they know Israel is concerned with harming Palestinian civiilians. That's why they are sending in soldiers, risking their lives, rather than simply carpet bombing the area as the US did in Vietnam and as we would do to Mexico if they attacked us in the same way. Israel is being over-solicitous of the Palestinian population.

    Next, if Palestinians got a raw deal, it was from their own Arab brothers. 77% of Palestine is an Arab state called Jordan. Israel has only 13% or so of Palestine and the rest is Gaza, West Bank and Jordan. More Jews were expelled from Arab states and more property of theirs confiscated then Arabs lost property when they ran from the 1948 war. Whereas the Jews in Israel took in their expelled brethren, the Arab states kept the Palestinians stateless and as political pawns. When they did take them in as King Hussein did, the PLO fought against the state. Thus, if we talk about justice, look at the treatment by their own brethren. If you talk about compensation, realize that the Jews deserve more of it. Finally, if you want to talk about racism, Arab citizens in Israel have more rights than almost any Arab state. Many Arab states exclude Jews even from visiting, let alone living there. Israel is the only country in the history of the world to mount campaigns to save black people from danger and bring them to live there in peace (Ethiopians). Know the facts please.

    • Posted By: soncollins @ 01/05/2009 2:27:14 PM

      Perturbed by lies -No one is suggesting that Israels has not shown any benevolance but to suggest that your people are the only people who deserve any compensation get a life. Native americans, african americans, natives in south america. If anything burns me up more is when someone states that Jewish suffering is far more meaniingful than anyone else is dispariging. Suffering is suffering.

  • Posted By: soncollins @ 01/05/2009 2:26:57 PM

    Perturbed by lies -No one is suggesting that Israels has not shown any benevolance but to suggest that your people are the only people who deserve any compensation get a life. Native americans, african americans, natives in south america. If anything burns me up more is when someone states that Jewish suffering is far more meaniingful than anyone else is dispariging. Suffering is suffering.

  • Posted By: elsadina @ 01/05/2009 1:32:18 PM

    Everyone has failed to mention that what Israel is doing to the Palestinian people is absolutely against International Law. Israel is not accountable for human rights obligations. Since no one is even questioning this, apparently, Israel is above the law.
    ???The recent violence has reportedly cost more than 400 lives and left over 2,000 wounded?????? Klaidman, you forgot to mention that these lives affected are Palestinian lives, but what???s in a minor detail anyway?

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 01/05/2009 2:26:49 PM

      If a man attacks me with the intent to kill, I am not morally or legally obligated to not respond.

      Hamas started this current mess...the responsibility is theirs.

    • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/05/2009 2:20:18 PM

      Um, so the Palestinanians lobbing rockest into Israel and sending their young people with bombs strapped on to them into schools, stores. etc,. is NOT against international law?

      Strange world-view you live in there.

    • Posted By: Poggle @ 01/05/2009 1:55:21 PM

      Good Point, I also want to know why Israel is not bound by International Law. Maybe it is because of all the money they have put into our politicians pockets' over the last 50 years here in the U.S.? Now therer's a lobby that needs to be shunned and dismantled.

  • Posted By: josephm2009 @ 01/05/2009 1:18:21 PM

    palastinian the reason of lebanon civil war..palastinian you all spies for israel in 1982 invasion of lebanon..plalastinian stop shooting rocket ..palastinian you sold your land .palastinian god is mad you brought this to urself so stop crying..
    i am lebanese and i am sick and tired of hearing about palastine

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:26:35 PM

      Joseph, we are tired of your whining. Do stop crying when it is over.

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