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  • Posted By: ep122 @ 01/12/2009 4:41:43 PM

    Is this democracy??

    Israel Bans Arab Parties From Coming Election
    JOSEF FEDERMAN | January 12, 2009 11:49 AM EST |

    JERUSALEM ??? Israel on Monday banned Arab political parties from running in next month's parliamentary elections, drawing accusations of racism by an Arab lawmaker who said he would challenge the decision in the country's Supreme Court.

    The ruling by parliament's Central Election Committee reflected the heightened tensions between Israel's Jewish majority and Arab minority caused by Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip. Arabs have held a series of demonstrations against the offensive.

    Parliament spokesman Giora Pordes said the election committee voted overwhelmingly in favor of the motion, accusing the country's Arab parties of incitement, supporting terrorist groups and refusing to recognize Israel's right to exist. Arab lawmakers have traveled to some of Israel's staunchest enemies, including Lebanon and Syria.

    The 37-member committee is composed of representatives from Israel's major political parties. The measure was proposed by two ultranationalist parties but received widespread support.

    The decision does not affect Arab lawmakers in predominantly Jewish parties or the country's communist party, which has a mixed list of Arab and Jewish candidates. Roughly one-fifth of Israel's 7 million citizens are Arabs. Israeli Arabs enjoy full citizenship rights, but have suffered from discrimination and poverty for decades.

    Arab lawmakers Ahmed Tibi and Jamal Zahalka, political rivals who head the two Arab blocs in parliament, joined together in condemning Monday's decision.

    "It was a political trial led by a group of Fascists and racists who are willing to see the Knesset without Arabs and want to see the country without Arabs," said Tibi.

    Together, the Arab lists hold seven of the 120 seats in the Knesset, or parliament.

    Tibi said he would appeal to the high court, while Zahalka said his party was still deciding how to proceed.

    Pordes, the parliament spokesman, said the last party to be banned was the late Rabbi Meir Kahane's Kach Party, a list from the 1980s that advocated the expulsion of Arabs from Israel.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/12/2009 7:43:08 PM

      Bastards, trying prevent Arabs from free elections, which they enjoy in other Middle East countries. OOPS! What countries??

      • Posted By: ep122 @ 01/13/2009 4:10:47 PM

        What type of government the Arab countries have is up to them. Democracy does not work for everyone. If you are going to be a democracy, though, you can't have a subpopulation that do not count. You can't exclude based on race.

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/13/2009 9:55:29 PM

          Lead by example, or shut up. Violators of human rights do not have rights to criticise. Besides, Israeli Arabs have full freadom and few respectful parties.

          • Posted By: wilywascal @ 01/14/2009 8:41:57 PM

            bighappy deliberately misses the point to smear while displaying his bigotry and hatred. The point being that Israel doesn't deserve to be considered a true democracy. bighappy wants everyone to forget that Israel owes its origin to Jewish terrorist groups. Arabic and even non-European/Asian Jews (the very ones who lived in Palestine and throughout the Middle East) are discriminated against and treated as second-class citizens in Israel. Being an American, bighappy's comment about leading by example is meaningless and appears merely a diversionary tactic. That said, I'm sure that most of us who deplore the excesses of Israel and the injustice done to Palestinians by disturbing the ethnic make-up and subsequent loss of most of their lands in what had been Palestine equally argue for democracy and human rights in Arab countries, as well. Let's start with the U.S. getting serious with Saudi Arabia and Israel--if we can't or won't influence our supposed allies, we only stand as self-serving hypocrites, and you can forget about creating meaninful change anywhere else. Even where we are able to do good, our image remains tarnished. That's a major obstacle we now have to cope with--not just with the disastrous illegal and unnecessary war in Iraq, but also our long history of being incapable of being an impartial broker in this conflict--a potentially devastating loss of credibility around the world.

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 11:22:44 PM

    Someone, please tell me that the Palestinians have food and other supplies and a bed to go to sleep in at night.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/13/2009 11:30:56 PM

      Those in Israel and even in West Bank are. As for Gazans - beg Hamas.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 11:39:16 PM

        Excuse me! I meant are the Palestinian victims getting what they need. The ones being bombed! But you knew that.

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/13/2009 11:54:02 PM

          Ad I said, beg Hamas to stop, Gazans were much better without them.

          • Posted By: Peace-Justice @ 01/14/2009 2:38:21 PM

            If Gazans have chosen Hamas, it is because they have realized that they will never recuperate their stolen life & land without fighting for them.
            To get peace & security, Israel has to return Palestine to Palestinians.
            Also nothing justify what Israel is doing by killing children & women. Unfortunately you do not consider Palestinians as human being & you do not see the ugly face of Israel coward war. If you are interested, send me your email & I will send you some photos, in case you do consider that the ends do not justify the means.

            • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/14/2009 8:07:40 PM

              "If Gazans have chosen Hamas, it is because they have realized that they will never recuperate their stolen life & land without fighting for them": then they must die.

        • Posted By: Forty4 @ 01/13/2009 11:59:44 PM

          Pia, when someone picks a fight, such as Hamas has done, they shouldn't expect them to play by their rules.

          Hamas opened up a can of whip ass they shouldn't have opened. (like 3k rockets fired into Israel) Now the Palestinian people, who elected Hamas, are saying... oppps....

          I guess Israel should lay down and die for Hamas' convenience? Please tell me you don't think that.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/14/2009 9:13:09 AM

            Huh, Forty-explain to me how any of this is the fault of the children, old people and others. Thank you. And while you are at it tell me why Israel is hitting civilian refugee camps with white phosphorous! The people are suffering burns!

  • Posted By: erahmo @ 01/05/2009 2:06:08 PM

    Plavanway, i think most of us are beyond this bible thumpin BS. Lets just stick to the technical facts of the last 100 years, and you will see the light. The Palestinians have a right to exist as do the Israelis, the problem is the Israelis are existing on Palestinian land, and yes, at the fault of the United Nations 60 years ago.

    • Posted By: BiancaL @ 01/05/2009 2:51:33 PM

      It's amazing how this lie caught so well in the public's mind. Israel is not based on Arab land. First of all for some reason many think that the historical Israel had no jews in it - LIE. It had many varying between 10's of thousands and 100's of thousands. at a time in the lat 2000 years. In Jerusalem, there has ALWAYS been a majority of jews (66% the rest being half christian half muslim). It's not us saying that, it's the Otoman empire's census in the 19 century and the british census. There were jews in Tzfat all along and Tiberia and Hebron and other places. There were also the Samaritans who are also Jewish. When the Jews tarted coming back at the end of the 19 century they didn't steal land - they bought it! The rest was indeed Palastinian land that was conquered in the annihilation
      war the palastinians started in 48 along with the arab tates. You seem to think they deserve a prize for that.
      And last but not least, and not that it interests anyone - the Arabs themselves conquered all the middle east (and even parts of europe)

      • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 01/14/2009 7:18:04 PM

        Rubbish "history". Read a book. Israeli historians Elan Pappe and Benny Morris would be good place to start. At the end of the Ottoman period, Jews were a small minority in Palestine, including in Jerusalem. That was when Britain promised to act as a custodian of the territory, to facilitate the establishment of self-determination for its indigenous people (who were mostly Arabs right up until 1947-48, when several HUNDRED THOUSAND Palestinians were driven from their homes by force and fear).

  • Posted By: Pork @ 01/09/2009 10:39:56 PM

    40yerarR, as a Muslim you will never understand God's ways. It is only thru the Bible that life can be understood. God says in the Bible that He hates all of Israel's enemies and that He will utterly destroy them. So for what it is worth, God is your enemy, and He is the enemy of all of Israel's enemies. As for your spiritual situation right now, you are doomed to Hell. In fact, all evil people were created for eternal life in the fires below. And, yes, each person that died in 9/11 was destined to die that day. However just as Judas was condemned for turning Jesus over to the authoritues, the perpetrators of 9/11 have a special place in HELL.

    • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 01/14/2009 7:11:10 PM

      The modern, allegedly secular State of Israel is NOT the biblical Kingdom of Israel, and the modern citizens of Israel are overwhelmingly NOT descendants of the people of biblical Israel (which was destroyed, and its people taken into captivity by the Assyrians). Presumably, most of today's Jews are descendants of the people of Judea, which wasn't destroyed until the Roman era...its people were dispersed throughout the Roman Empire, but they and their communities survived and preserved the Jewish culture and religion. And (if the Bible is to be creditted as a real estate deed), the Arab tribes are descendants of Abraham, too... so if the descendants of the Judeans are to be recognized in the modern era as "Children of Israel" based on their descent from Abraham, so must the Arabs... and the claim of either one of these two groups to the land, based on the Bible alone, is no better than the claim of the other group.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/09/2009 11:37:48 PM

      Let me see if I can wade through the detritus of your ignorance and apostacy.

      In your post immediately below, you declared that the death of Palestinian children is ok, because this distortion of a god (not God, because you do not worship that one), determines that these innocents will be taken care of, but the ones YOU judge should die now.

      In this post you declare that I am a Muslim and condemned me to your version of hell (not the real Hell), because I posted to 'kingrichard' about the fallacy of his perspective that 9/11 was heartbreaking, but the deaths of children in Gaza is satisfying.

      My God, the real one, does not agree with you. She told me. She also told me that the innocent children of Gaza do not deserve to die or suffer, for they are blameless.

      You may reach Heaven yet, but you will need to read the New Testament first, repent your sins, and reconcile with the true God.

      For myself, I forgive your ignorance and distorted hate. But I tremble at God's wrath that awaits you if you do not find God's love, understanding and compassion.

      I am signing off now. God told me that I must pray for your forgiveness and enlightenment, because on your current course you certainly shall be condemned to the everlasting pain and suffering of the true Hell that She has set aside for apostates like you.

      P.S. Were you assigned the name Pork in accordance with the Old Testament or the New Testament?

  • Posted By: n83nbu @ 01/12/2009 7:06:14 AM

    The cynicism of the Israeli butchers is beyond belief. They drop leaflets asking the Palestinians to leave their homes. BUT WHERE DO THEY GO? 1,5 million people in Gaza have nowhere to go! In Gaza there is only the sea to the West (full of Israeli Navy boats bombing the land), hermetically closed borders with Israel to the North and the East and with Egypt to the South. So wherever the Palestinians flee they are butchered! Very similar to the way German forces occupying France in WWII warned people in villages not to support the Résistance, and then used this as A PRETEXT TO KILL THEM!

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/12/2009 8:00:45 AM

      Excellent comments.

      • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/12/2009 12:57:02 PM

        Pia, earlier in the comment you were asked what was Israel supposed to do in response to Hamas? You never really answered that one.

        Just a reminder.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/12/2009 2:41:38 PM

          Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see the post.

          To answer your question, my feelings about Israel are that of course she must defend herself from the rocket attacks..however, what Israel is doing now is a major inhumanity! Hundreds of innocent Palestinians have been killed and continue to be killed daily. I am trying to stay neutral regarding who is at fault but it is very difficult. I am beggining to see Israel as a big bully! My only concern is for the people being killed and on both sides. I have to stress that we can all agree that the poor Palestinian people are the ones suffering the most.

          • Posted By: abbreviate @ 01/12/2009 3:47:58 PM

            Completely agree with you. Israel declared war to the rest of the world risking lives of Israelites and Jews all over the world. We should remember that not all Jews are supporters or Israel and many do not want to have anything in common with current regime. They have they own country, USA, Poland, ... Iran and do not want to betray it. May be that is the reason for Israel to be so hostile?

            • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/12/2009 8:35:06 PM

              Great knowledge! Do you know how many Jews are in Poland? Zero. Iran keeps few Jews as prisoners. And it is well known fact that Arabs in Europe are constantly trying to betray their countries.

              • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 01/14/2009 6:47:15 PM

                Bighappy thinks there are ZERO Jews in Poland. Such a clear demonstration of utter ignorance!

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 1:59:30 PM

                You're counted the Jews in Poland one Jew at a time.

                • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/13/2009 4:53:59 PM

                  Yes, and he apparently forgot what comes after zero. Stay tuned.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 1:59:56 PM

              Thank you for your comment.

          • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/12/2009 4:15:31 PM

            Saying that Israel has a right to defend itself but them complaining when they do is being vary naive. What is Israel supposed to do? They had a cease-fire with Hamas which Hamas ended.

            Hamas had (and could still have) a choice - govern their people in peace or continue their terrorist ways. Hamas has chosen terror. They chose to recieve arms from Iran (the real bad guy in this) instead of using the millions of $$ from the work community to (ahem) actually improve the lives of their people.

            I feel truely sorry for the innocents on both sides that are killed. War is heck. Maybe if Hamas wouldn't place their 'soldiers' among women and children then innocents being killed could be minimized.

            The battle we are in is with radical Islam.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/12/2009 5:18:12 PM

              I'm not being naive. Israel has the bigger and better and more resourceful army. They are hitting back at the Palestinians who as far as I'm concerned, have nothing. This war/conflict could have ben avoided back in 1948 or whatever year it was that the refugee Jews from WWII settled in Palestine, and yes it was Palestine then, not Israel. Israel should never have settled there. Knowing that the Arabs and Jews hated each other, they must have had some feeling that a conflict would one day arise from this deal. I sympathize with the tragedy of the Holocaust victims, they suffered the most horrifying experiences, but IMO the refugee Jews should have remained in Europe after they were liberated from the concentration camps. Many had businesses and families and friends there.

              • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/12/2009 8:30:36 PM

                They definitely forgot to ask your permission to return on their land. Typical left-wing "human rights" chatter "Those bastards try to kill you, but you should be better, run but do not touch any precious cannibal human being".
                Interesting how will you sing when Arabs in your own European countries start terrorizing you (exidents before were only repetition). Probably first you say that Arabs should have not come here because they and Chrisitians akways had hated each other, then that Chrisitians should have never had participated in Crusades, then that europians should have never setled in Europe?

                • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/12/2009 11:13:21 PM

                  The 'their land' as you call it was the Old Testament 'land of milk and honey' into which the Jews migrated. It was already populated when they migrated there.

                  The Crusaders never had any claim to that land except as the traditional home of their religion. They perpetrated wholesale slaughters solely because Jesus Christ was born there more than a millenium earlier.

                  Neither your condescension nor absolutism is justified.

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 1:54:01 PM

                    Excellent 40! As always you are well informed.

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 1:53:17 PM

                  I'm neither a left winger nor am I chattering! I am only stating my opionion the way you do..the difference between us is that you are so sure of yourself because you seem to think you know it all and your opinion is the asnwer.

              • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 01/13/2009 9:48:42 AM

                Yes this war could have been avoided in 1948 - the Palestinians needed to accept the two-state solutuion I know we want to re-write history but the fact is that the state of Israel does exist and the Palestinians need to accept that fact. Israel is not going anywhere.



                .

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/13/2009 1:49:42 PM

                  Why should the Palestinians have to accept what they didn't want?

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/12/2009 7:35:44 PM

      They should have thought about this (where to go) couple years ago voting fo rHamas. Ask your lovely Hamas why they did not bother to build underground bomb shelters for civilians only (definitely they built a lot, for themselves).

  • Posted By: JABeck @ 01/14/2009 5:49:57 PM

    Will there ever be peace? No.

  • Posted By: hyjanks @ 01/14/2009 5:13:46 PM

    Blessed are they who mourn,
    for they shall be comforted.

    Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
    for they shall be satisfied.

    Blessed are the merciful,
    for they shall obtain mercy.

    Blessed are the peacemakers,
    for they shall be called children of God.

    Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    Oops! So sorry. Wrong religion.
    Maybe I'll do some perusing of the Koran and Talmud, cherry-pick similar passages and pass THEM off as the religions that should prevail for their strict observance of morality. Of course, then I would have to narrow the choice down to one, 'cause we all know there can only be one god.
    March on brave soldiers! Your god is with you every step of the way. Even if you lose, you win-- for heaven awaits you. (And massive profits await the arms industry).

  • Posted By: Catherine Fenlon @ 01/14/2009 4:49:53 PM

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  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/14/2009 3:29:39 PM

    What happened to all of the comments?

  • Posted By: logical thinker 28 @ 01/05/2009 1:15:48 PM

    If the land of Israel were left alone, there would be no war. The people of Israel have the right to defend their homes, and children from Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Americans do not seem to understand this, because they have forgotten about 9-11. Well, 9-11 was a one day very unfortunate terrorist attack. Do you know what it is like to be attacked every day for years? You cannot possibly understand. Once you try to understand the perspectives of those who live in Israel, only then will you agree that Israel is 100% correct in its tactics. They need to wipe Hamas off of the Earth- NOT ISRAEL or its people. People who breed children who become terrorists- are not people- they are animals.

    • Posted By: Peace-Justice @ 01/14/2009 2:52:25 PM

      The real terrorist is the one who imposed an inhuman blockus on 1.5 Mio of Palestinians in Gaza strip, asking them to die silently with lack of food, water, electricity & medicines. I have some photos that can show you who is the real terrorist, and only a coward army kills children & women.

    • Posted By: Bill Smith @ 01/05/2009 1:32:33 PM

      Oh please. Israelis are just as much terrorists as Hamas. To hell with them all.

      • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 01/05/2009 1:48:41 PM

        Hey Bill, why don't you just say what you mean. To hell with everyone but Bill Smith. By the way, Bill, spelling America with a K, shows your hate side clearly.

        • Posted By: Bill Smith @ 01/06/2009 1:58:28 PM

          Instead of more nonsense, can you please tell me which side I am on?

    • Posted By: flatland @ 01/05/2009 2:27:41 PM

      That shows us how ignorant you are. GO READ dude!

    • Posted By: honestguy @ 01/05/2009 2:07:21 PM

      logical thinker, Israel needs to realize that nobody over there likes or wants them there. Even average citizens in the US cant stand Jewish people because of their way of thinking. Money, power, investments, land. Plus they only look out for fellow Jews. Thats all they care about, thats why allot of people here don't like them. I don't support Hamas, but if the Jews don't feel safe, then they should leave the region. The region is all about religion. You cant blend Muslim culture and Jewish culture together and expect harmony. In that region meaning the middle east the Jews are the minority. So there will be a war there forever till the Jews are gone. We all are a part of this planet, but Jews feel the need to own Israel because they claim they are the chosen people. See what religious beliefs programmed into peoples mind can to the world. Its called WAR!

    • Posted By: honestguy @ 01/05/2009 2:00:15 PM

      logical thinker, Israel needs to realize that nobody over there likes or wants them there. Even average citizens in the US cant stand Jewish people because of their way of thinking. Money, power, investments, land. Plus they only look out for fellow Jews. Thats all they care about, thats why allot of people here don't like them. I don't support Hamas, but if the Jews don't feel safe, then they should leave the region. The region is all about religion. You cant blend Muslim culture and Jewish culture together and expect harmony. In that region meaning the middle east the Jews are the minority. So there will be a war there forever till the Jews are gone. We all are a part of this planet, but Jews feel the need to own Israel because they claim they are the chosen people. See what religious beliefs programmed into peoples mind can to the world. Its called WAR!

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 01/14/2009 10:37:45 AM

    Anyone who can't see the merits of both sides is completely inept in their thinking. Isreal is surrounded by enemies on all sides, and they have the military might to crush their advisaries; they also have this major chip on their shoulders, and practice little to no restraint or rationallity. The Palestinians have been pissed for decades and entrust their government to radicals and ideolouges; they are underarmed, yet still fight in anger, which increases everytime Isreal strikes back with excessive force. This has been going on since the dawn of Isreal, and until religious furor ends, and reasonable leaders chose to put anger aside for the sake of their own peoples saftey, there will not be peace in the region.

  • Posted By: Chaotician @ 01/14/2009 9:29:13 AM

    As one old enough to remember and know many Jews and Gentiles who went to Israel during those heady days of the Kibbutz and the Age of Aquarius; I am nostalgic for those happier days! Unfortunately, the Age of Aquarius led to the Fascism with the likes of George, Dick, Wolfowitz, et al. The Kibbutz is gone, revealing the Nazism of present day Israel! Those friends are largely back, disillusioned and sadden except a few who stayed and became the radicalized neo-Nazi Zionist cadre; interestingly, the most radical is a converted Hari Krishna member who you can see on the ramparts of the expanding Jewish settlements stealing land and deepening the hatred and the opposition to Jews worldwide. From the romantic nonsense of Sal Mineo and Paul Newman to the present day reality of the murderous Jew: twisting their wars, their pogroms, their genocide, their inhumanity into some mind-bending defense in the name of Jewish persecution can no longer be accepted, tolerated, and must be opposed without reservation! The 3000 year Lust for other peoples lands by the Zionists is cannot be allowed to continue!

  • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/14/2009 6:56:46 AM

    Saw this on another website,maybe someone can enlighten me but is it true Hamas has reinstated Crucifiction as a punishment under sharia law?I did see some info on this online but it must be zionist propaganda,right?No way any sane people would opt for this kind of capital punishment in the 21st century

  • Posted By: nlkatz @ 01/14/2009 6:16:56 AM

    "???the Gaza crimes???"

    Should one assume these crimes refer to the fact that the leaders of Hamas have been producing and stockpiling their illicit weapons and explosives inside mosques, UN managed schools, kindergartens and in the lower floors of apartment blocks populated by civilians? Or do these crimes refer to the fact that Hamas personnel situate themselves inside medical facilities and physically hiding behind neighborhood boys and girls? And one other possibility, do these crimes refer to the fact that Hamas armed forces have been firing rockets ??? even during "ceasefire" periods ??? fore years, aiming to hit houses of worship, kindergartens, people dwellings, even cowsheds and chicken coops of the collective and cooperative farming communities of Israel?

    I certainly don't think such crimes are committed by those who ask the civilian of population of Gaza ??? through the use of leaflets, radio and telephone messages - to vacate a building before it is hit by a missile. I certainly don't think that the many hundreds of trucks of medical and food supplies making their ways to these civilians daily from across the border, sent by the very people who are to be "erased off the face of the earth and with them their nation-state and their Jewish civilization". Nor do I think those who continue to supply the territory in question with water, electricity and petrol to assist as much as possible and ease the situation in which the civilians there suffer as a result of the aggression of their own leaders, Hamas.

    So, who is really committing crimes in Gaza??!!

  • Posted By: isjust @ 01/14/2009 4:32:47 AM

    To our Muslim brethren, we beg of you to not let the terrorists within continue terrorising the Jews with their

    suicide bombings of Jewish women and children on busses, weddings, restaurants, and nightclubs:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm

    We beg, please stop train your children from age 4 to be suicide bombers to kill us:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JhVDwrfoTOg

    Please stop saying that it is all because of Israel, what about what the palestinians did to the christians in

    Lebanon:
    http://multimedia.heritage.org/content/wm/Lehrman-092706a.wvx

    Please don't support their lies that the Jews "stole palestine" from the "palestinians"
    http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm

    At that point maybe we'll start talking about peace! Now what do you support?

  • Posted By: isjust @ 01/14/2009 4:31:24 AM

    To our Muslim brethren, we beg of you to not let the terrorists within continue terrorising the Jews with their

    suicide bombings of Jewish women and children on busses, weddings, restaurants, and nightclubs:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm

    We beg, please stop train your children from age 4 to be suicide bombers to kill us:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JhVDwrfoTOg

    Please stop saying that it is all because of Israel, what about what the palestinians did to the christians in

    Lebanon:
    http://multimedia.heritage.org/content/wm/Lehrman-092706a.wvx

    Please don't support their lies that the Jews "stole palestine" from the "palestinians"
    http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm

    At that point maybe we'll start talking about peace! Now what do you support?

  • Posted By: isjust @ 01/14/2009 4:11:18 AM

    To our Muslim brethren, we beg of you to not let the terrorists within continue terrorising the Jews with their

    suicide bombings of Jewish women and children on busses, weddings, restaurants, and nightclubs:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm

    We beg, please stop train your children from age 4 to be suicide bombers to kill us:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JhVDwrfoTOg

    Please stop saying that it is all because of Israel, what about what the palestinians did to the christians in

    Lebanon:
    http://multimedia.heritage.org/content/wm/Lehrman-092706a.wvx

    Please don't support their lies that the Jews "stole palestine" from the "palestinians"
    http://imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm

    At that point maybe we'll start talking about peace! Now what do you support?

  • Posted By: nlkatz @ 01/14/2009 2:09:14 AM

    Persistent eyewitness reports and photographs tell of Hamas's leaders hiding in the basement of the Shifa Hospital of Gaza, using the civilians in this medical facility as human shields, a form of war crimes.

    Also, similar reports, based on photo documentation, accuse Hamas's armed forces of producing weapons and explosives and stockpiling them in mosques, in UN managed schools and in people's homes and firing them from kindergarten yards and the yards of medical facilities, which also amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    And of course, Hamas's exclusive targets for many years have been population canters in Israel ??? the blue colour towns of S'derot, Ashqelon, the universities of Beer Sheba and Sapir, and the collective and cooperative farming communities and their residents, of southern Israel - also considered war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    Israel has been seeking an accommodation of peaceful co-existence with its Arab neighbors, in Gaza and elsewhere. But Israel, as any other country, can not allow for its citizens to be targeted day in and day out for years by those whose declared goal is the erasing of Israel ??? a UN member state ??? off the face of the earth and with it the Jewish civilization in this national homeland of the Jewish people (read Hamas's Charter!!!).

    When Hamas looses its will and motivation to fire at Israeli children in their kindergartens ??? some of which have been hit while the toddlers have been sheltered, thus survived - and most of the means with which it conducts its war machine against Israel's civilian population is eliminated; when all illicit weapons cease to make their ways into Gaza; and when Gilad Shalit is home, only then this conflict will come to an end.

    On a longer term, the demand of the UN, EU, US, Russia as well as Arab states' and the Palestinian Authority presidency's of Hamas must stand, if this Islamist organization ever wishes to be part of any peace process: Cease all acts of terror and violence, adhere to previously signed agreements with Israel, and recognize Israel's right ??? a UN member state ??? to exist.

    Jews, Israelis and otherwise, have never sought anything beyond an accommodation of peaceful co-existence between Arab and Jew, between Israel and its Arab neighbors.

    Can Israel's neighbors and their supporters abroad rise to the occasion and seek the same goal??

  • Posted By: Steven2009 @ 01/14/2009 1:49:43 AM

    the double standard of US can easily seen in this issue. It is a sham to cover Israel's cruel action in Gaza. if hamas is the only problem then, I would only end this up by this statement:
    In a hijack sutuition, you are supposed to kill hijaker,

  • Posted By: G.T.Martenscaa @ 01/14/2009 1:27:32 AM

    it appears that many of the participants here are ready to go and make a stand for Israel of Hamas. Why don't the supporters of Hamas just get off their safe secure little butts and out of their safe little communities that are supported and funded by the people they are slandering and maligning and go over to Gaza and tell those Israelis they are wrong? Wouldn't this be more effective than posting comments that undermine our governments and countries that welcome them as equals, and try to provide for them like they are real people.? Maybe these brave supporters of the terrorist Hamas will find more satisfaction in joining their heroes on the front line. Let's say,"God's will be done"....

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