only difference Gary is the lack of fundamentalist religion in the US separating peoples ...which is the ultimate catalyst Hamas refuses to even recognize Israel The fundamentalist Muslims will prevent any type of modern solution
only difference Gary is the lack of fundamentalist religion in the US separating peoples ...which is the ultimate catalyst Hamas refuses to even recognize Israel The fundamentalist Muslims will prevent any type of modern solution
This is such BS. The reason Hamas and Israel are still going at it is because, even with the ceasefire and despite international law, Israel keeps taking more of the West Bank and Jerusalem. Israel does not want a peace that doesn't include huge swaths of Palestinian land, and this is why they keep torpedoing cease fires set up by our country.
As anyone can see from this map http://stopthewall.org/maps/860.shtml Israel is taking far more of the West Bank than ever before. The Palestinians will be cut off from most sources of water and farmable land, land that has been in their families for centuries. Then Israel instigates another attack to justify the "Palestinian terrorist solution". Our media falls in line for it every single time and the view that is represented to us makes it seem like it's just a bunch of terrorists acting out against poor victimized Israel.
Both sides are wrong, both sides need to get their butts kicked. Our media needs to stop being so biased; our government needs to stop vetoing UN resolutions against Israel, since we're the only country that takes their sides. Everyone else seems to get it right except for us, probably because of the PR campaign I mentioned earlier.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!! Israel is NOT acting like our friend, and we need to make them conform to international law like everyone else if we want a fair and final end to this abortion of a conflict.
What is happening here?
Hamas' rockets.
Isreal retaiates with excessive civilian casualties. Many believe the excess is deliberate; a response to Hammas' support among the Gaza population.
What's to come?
An invasion by Isreal. More civilian deaths.
Then Isreal withdraws. But, not before leaving tons of unexploded cluster bombs the last 3 days of their occupation, like they did in Lebanon.
Then Hamas takes back the streets, passes out money for reconstruction, and declares victory.
Moderate Moslem leaders in nearby countries are deposed.
Other moslem leaders rally behind Hamas.
Possibly a brief cease fire.
Then more rockets.
Then more division, distrust, despair, and rage.
"Dead Birds of Paradise!"
Don't be too aloof about this. It could happen here, between hispanics and non-hispanics in the United States. All it takes are propagandists like Lou Dobbs on CNN, and the good old boys on the radio waves to stoke the embers of hate.
There is no clear solution for the Palestinian cause, Israel will not tolerate a full-fledged Palestinian state and Arabs, I mean, the people of Arab countries, along with Palestinians would not open a new page with Israeli. Taking into accounts a 4 million Palestians refugees living in a stateless condition will never put an end to the bitter conflct. Israeli are unwanted in the Middle East and their presence is hated even in countries that have diplomatic ties with the Jewish state
Palestinians send their children into Israeli schools, busses, restaurants, and supermarkets with bombs strapped to their bodies to kill as many innocent men, women, and children as they possibly can. After the suicide bomber completes their mission of wanton murder of dozens of people the Palestinians dance in the streets and pass out candy celebrating.
Palestinians fire hundreds of rockets into Israeli villages and towns trying to murder as many innocent people as possible and when Israel responds Israel is called the aggressor. The aggressors are the people who have murdered thousands of innocents here on 911, in India, Iraq, Israel, England, Spain, Fiji, The Philippines and six different Moslem countries all in the name of Islam against Jews and Christians. The aggressor is not the nation of Israel, a country the size of New Jersey. It is the Palestinians and Moslems who teach their children, from the time they are born, to hate Jews and Christians.
Have people forgotten that Israel withdrew every settler and every soldier from Gaza three years ago? What did they get in return? Six thousand rockets fired at their civilians the past three years. Let a terrorist group take over Canada or Mexico and begin firing rockets at American cities and let's see how our government responds. People speak about proportionality as though a country has no right to do whatever it can to stop attacks against its own people. Hamas is sworn to the destruction against the State of Israel and Israel has the right to protect its people by any means possible. Period.
Well said and spot on.
uptill last news,
war is going on,
both the paries,involved in the battle,
]are receiving bodies and injured slodiers.
United nation'security still failed to stop the war,
Arab league has passed resolution only,
the world people are demonstraing,
but inspite of all struggle blood clash is continued.
Israel want to remove from the bottom,
so that it may safe Israel from Humas rocket-firing,
but i think,it is not a matter of days,
it will take remarkable time,
so there are chances horrible carnage..
Batter way is negotiation,
Israel and Palestine will come to the negotiation table ,
after losing numberless death,
Rocket-firing ,without any reason, as Israel claim,
must be stoped,that is indispensable for stable peace ,
in the Middle east,
as for as Palestinains rights is concerned ,
should be honoured by Israel,
millitarily resolution is fundamentally gainst the diplomacy,
and the basic principles of the United Nations.
The role,being played by some quarters can not be disregard,
efforts are also being scraped by their influence,
souldn't do such act,
time is to controling the circumstances ,
otherwise it may take such turn, that is beyond the mid,
and expectation.
Fear of imminent defeat dilutes zionists objectives. Haunted by bitter memories of the 33 days war defeat in Lebanon,the prime minister of the occupying regime announced that the objective of the ground offensive is to WEAKEN the hammas military capabilities. The IDF casualties piles up since the Isareli attack began as they face hammas combatants for the first time. Skilled in targeting people from the air, weary and reluctant IDF soldiers are taking disporportionate casualties in the early stages of ground offensive. The public opinion pressure along with deepening divide between pro Israel camp specially within the arab community, eventual widening of war to the west bank, launching barrage of missiles on Israel, taking embarassing casualties in its military will once again force the zionist camp to demand peacekeeping forces from the UN through Americans. Only this time Hammas and the Palestinians will not accept. If the economy of the occupying regime and its commercial ports come to complete halt then there is no logical reason for people who have risen up to push back invadors and have nothing to lose accept a ceasefire that only secures their enemy's positions. For Palestinians it is either a remarkable military victoty or the beginning of the 3rd Intifada. Neither serves the interests of the zionist camp.
Fear of imminent defeat dilutes zionists objectives. Haunted by bitter memories of the 33 days war defeat in Lebanon, the prime minister of the occupying regime announced that the objective of the ground offensive is to WEAKEN the hammas military capabilities. The IDF casualties piles up for the first time since the Isareli attack began as they face hammas combatants for the first time. Skilled in targeting people from the air, weary and reluctant IDF soldiers are taking disporportionate casualties in the early stages of ground offensiv e. The public opinion pressure along with deepening divide between pro Israel camp specially within the arab community, eventual widening of war to the west bank, launching barrage of missiles on Israel, taking embarassing casualties in its military will once again force the zionist camp to demand peacekeeping forces from the UN through Americans. Only this time Hammas and the Palestinians will not accept. If the economy of the occupying regime and its commercial ports come to complete halt then there is no logical reason for people who have risen up to push back invadors and have nothing to lose accept a ceasefire that secures their enemy's positions. For Palestinians it is either a remarkable military victory or the beginning of the 3rd Intifada. Either one does not serve the interests of the zionist camp
There is a lot of hatred on both the sides.I wiill have to give Kudos to the writer who at least narrated the history sincereley. How come CNN , MSNBC , Fox and President Bush conveniently ignore the fact that palestinians are defending their homeland. It is a holocaust being inflicted on palestinian people. They are the ones who welcomed the israelis who were being wiped by hitler. Now israel has displaced the owners of the land to refugee camps. It is ironic that the victims of first holocaust are involved in creating one for palestinian muslims. I do agree that a "two state solution " is the only viable end to the conflict. But when creating a solution world should never forget that palestinians are the actual owners of the land.
There is a lot of hatred on both the sides.I wiill have to give Kudos to the writer who at least narrated the history sincereley. How come CNN , MSNBC , Fox and President Bush conveniently ignore the fact that palestinians are defending their homeland. It is a holocaust being inflicted on palestinian people. They are the ones who welcomed the israelis who were being wiped by hitler. Now israel has displaced the owners of the land to refugee camps. It is ironic that the victims of first holocaust are involved in creating one for palestinian muslims. I do agree that a "two state solution " is the only viable end to the conflict. But when creating a solution world should never forget that palestinians are the actual owners of the land.
I hope Israel doesn't stop bombing Gaza until every last terriost is dead, and please ignore American liberal media such as Newsweek, Time, the New York Times, etc....we really want the terriosts dead, this is a justified war of killing, if innocent people die its the terriosts fault, and may this war come to a speedy end with good results for Israel.
I hope Israel loses. She started this war. No matter how many Palestinians Israel murders, there will rise up more as thorns in her side.
there will be no peace till 2060
the last crusades lasted 100 years
this started IN 1918 WITH THE DISSOLUTION OF THE TURKISH CALIPHATE
it will take its time and its own own toll
Your claim that the Arab birthrate is rising is belied by all data, which shows that it is decreasing steadily over the last 20 years. IIn addition, there had been substantial emigration from both the West Bank and Gaza. In addition, you completely fail to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room: the threat of a nuclear Iran for which Mr. Obama has no coherent strategy. Therefore, your conceptual framework for peace is a "pipedream"--worry about stopping the Iranian Bomb if you ever want to see a viable diplomatic plan.
Palastinian fertility rate is 4.7
Israel fertility rate is currently 2.7
No security barrier? Free flow of people across the border?
Israel has made a great concession: the Gaza withdrawal from a few years back. The Palestinians, rather than acknowledging the gesture, treated it as a military victory and continued attacking Israel.
The current tactics of Hamas are akin to one of Mao's tactics: continuously attack your enemies and rely on the international community to restrain the enemy. Then, when the military advantage is finally gained, crush the enemy despite all protests of the international community.
If this solution is followed, the Palestinians would likely take their gains in land, and use their strengthened position to attack Israel even more. Any peace solution has to begin with the disbanding of Hamas.
If wishes were horses beggars would ride.
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