A Plan of Attack For Peace

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  • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/11/2009 1:55:28 PM

    Enter Your CommentThe struggle within islam rests on a simple problem.Can a religion created over a thousand years ago and addressed questions asked by a patriarchial desert trader community be reconciled with a far mor progressive and advancing modern world.And if not then can the modern world be made to fit into the islamic mold without isolating the worlds muslims from the other 5 billion of us.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/11/2009 4:24:42 PM

      Christians also passed this stage (inquisition, Crusades, and so on). The difference is 800-1000 years, and while Christians had time to adapt - muslims are still few hundred years behind, so carriers of more radical Islam (most of Arabs) will eventually be exterminated.

  • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/11/2009 1:51:07 PM

    Is Islam a culture intolerant of other cultures?

    "We can forgive the Muslims for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Muslims when they love their children more than they hate us." Golda Meir

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/11/2009 4:18:47 PM

      Probably Hamas dogs want their children and women to be killed for more selfish reason? Allah promised every killed terrorist 70 virgins, but where he will get them if most of the killed are dogs? Either they have to stay inlong line (serving 69 of every 70 days as a virgin) or bring with them as many innocent as possible.

  • Posted By: UzhasKakoi @ 01/11/2009 2:47:11 PM

    Free Free Palestine! Get rid of Hamas and other terrorists! Hamas killed more Palestinians that disagree with them, than Israel will unfortunately in the whole anti-terror(Hamas) campaign.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/11/2009 12:36:33 PM

    Oops, missed this one:

    Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 3:15:36 PM

    "If you must know, I am quite "noble" is appearance:slightly over 6 ft tall, slender, broad shoulders, with a well shaped head, finely scultured lips and nose, piercing blue eyes, and a commanding presense."

    This statement was misdirected when spoken to me. The subject was Pia's instruction that you kiss her horses A$$. Your description of yourself should have be whispered in that horses ear. It's located directly under its tail...

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/11/2009 1:09:25 PM

      Why do you repeat KingRichard's Posts?

      • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/11/2009 1:57:45 PM

        Today is the Lord's Day; it is not a day for Honorable Combat but for Contemplation. Besides, I am weary of wasting my time on the Fools found here. I salute those who's Hearts are True and who labor in Defense of the Realm - the White Realm. The rest of you can go to Hades. You are the Devil's spawn and shall reap the Wrath of the One True God. Spare yourselfs the trouble of a reply; I am quit of you.

        Thus spake Richard The Implacable.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/11/2009 1:44:26 PM

    TheGardner, Just completing my rejection of his offal, and the reply button is not working at this article.

  • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/10/2009 10:28:01 PM

    dont forget the grand mufti of jerusalems visits to nazi germany and concentration camps where he was repordedly pleased by what he saw because too many jews were moving to palestine.Also dont forget the bosnian muslims allied themselves with the nazis while the serbs went with the russians.In fact the ottoman empire allied itself with germany in world war one as well
    As for those that compare the israelis to the nazis,i assure you,if any neighbour had rocketed or suicide bombed Der Fuherers Deutschland,the results would have been far more brutal and overwhelming than anything the israelis would even dare to dream of.Of course adolf did not have the whole world watching on live TV so you never know.
    Oh and just in case you missed it,the arabs were not aryans who came out of eastern europe and western asia but are semitic peoples just like the jews,phoenicians,canaanites,amorites,edomites etc and would probably have gotten the short end of the stick eventually by the reich.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/11/2009 1:11:13 PM

      Ross....do not confuse them with the facts...

      • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/11/2009 1:36:38 PM

        i'll try to do better Gardener

      • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/11/2009 1:36:12 PM

        i'll try to do better Gardener

  • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/11/2009 12:33:29 PM

    With the current state of mind- which is also 1400 years old - peace is an intermezzo between wars.

  • Posted By: minnias @ 01/11/2009 8:25:04 AM

    THE LAW SHOULD BE THE ONLY SACRED GUIDANCE. IN THE END PEACE SHALL PREVAIL.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 01/11/2009 4:11:37 AM

    Extempor, I agree with you

  • Posted By: extempor @ 01/11/2009 3:25:00 AM

    We generally are all proud of our countries (I am from Australia). When we look at Somalia, or the way Afghanistan was under the Taliban, we think of lawless societies. Yet the world in which our governments co-exist, is no better than Somalia or old Afghanistan, its Lawless. Why do we have all these wars? Because politicians believe they are above the International Law, because they are kings in their domain. In the 21st Century surely we should use LAW not WAR to solve our problems. We do it within our countries, why is it so hard internationally.

    Use the LAW not WAR

    Stop the "Legal Killing of Children". Georgia, Gaza, who's Next?

  • Posted By: extempor @ 01/11/2009 3:22:38 AM

    Countries virtually all respect commercial Laws and Treaties, especailly banking. How is it that International Banking Laws work, but International Laws that relate to Human Life are constantly ignored. They are not ignored in the vast majority of countries, so why do we still engage in wars that kill human life.

    Obviously all Governments respect Money more than human life.

    Use the LAW not WAR.

    Stop the "Legal Killing of Children".

  • Posted By: isjust @ 01/11/2009 2:59:10 AM

    Peace could have been achieved long ago if non extreme Muslims would find a way to stop extremists from using their population centers as a launch pad of the extremist views. Until this happens, there will never be peace even with a 2 state solution. This is because the extremists will act against Israel even then, and Israel would be forced to respond. BTW, the same problem exists in Muslim communities worldwide in situations that have nothing to do with Israel as well. The people of Israel don't need to be pressed by any US president to concede anything. You'd find %80 of the population very very very willing to concede if it would earn them real and lasting peace. The keywords here are.. "real". and "lasting"

  • Posted By: nlkatz @ 01/11/2009 1:23:09 AM

    Enter Your CommentHamas commits war crimes and crimes against humanity: the way out:

    Persistent reports tell of Hamas's leaders hiding in the basement of the Shifa Hospital of Gaza, using the civilians in this medical facility as human shields, a form of war crime.

    Also, similar reports, based on photo documentation, accuse Hamas's armed forces of stockpiling weapons and explosives in mosques, in schools and in people's homes and firing them from schoolyards and the yards of medical facilities, which also amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    And of course, Hamas's exclusive targets for many years have been population canters in Israel ??? the blue colour towns of S'derot, Netivot, Ashqelon, Ofaqim, Beer Sheva and Ashdod and the collective and cooperative farming communities and their residents, of southern Israel - also considered war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    Israel has been seeking an accommodation of peaceful co-existence with its Arab neighbours, in Gaza and elsewhere. But Israel, as any other country, can not permit its citizens to be targeted day in and day out, especially when the declared goal of the attackers is to erase the Jewish state of Israel ??? a UN member state ??? off the face of the earth and with it the Jewish civilization in this national homeland of the Jewish people (read Hamas's Charter!!!).

    At present, Hamas must loose its will and motivation to fire at Israel and Israelis, and most of the means with which it conducts its war machine against Israel's civilian population must be eliminated. In addition, all illicit weapons and explosives must cease from making their way into Gaza. And of course, without Gilad Shalit coming back home this conflict will not come to an end.

    On a longer term, the demand of the UN, EU, US, Russia, PA presidency and Arab states of Hamas must stand if it wishes to be part of any peace process: Cease all acts of terror and violence against Israel and Israelis and the preparations for such acts, adhere to previously signed agreements with Israel, and recognize Israel's right ??? a UN member state ??? to exist.

    Israelis have never sought anything beyond an accommodation of peaceful co-existence between Arab and Jew, between it and its Arab neighbors.

    Can Israel's neighbors rise to the occasion and seek the same goal??




  • Posted By: GPaul @ 01/10/2009 8:21:01 PM

    No there will not be peace. Both of these parties claim to be winning. Israel is winning the war on the ground and in the air. Hamas is winning the war of public opinion. You can only see so many dead children and babies before you start to question the amount of 'force' being used. 70,000 Iranian volunteered to support Hamas. This is ugly and will get far worse.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/10/2009 8:58:40 PM

      Iran volunteers? Definitely they know it is a joke. With the same success they could ask their mullah to send them to the Moon to blow up American flag there.

      • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 10:16:37 PM

        Send them to the moon? I like it! Let's start building the rockets!

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/10/2009 11:26:12 PM

          Don't waste your effort, rockets were already built for them to blast them off the Earth.

  • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/10/2009 10:17:11 PM

    We lost the way in our discussions, it should be about political reasons of Israeli doves to start this war. Definitely they made this half-step in right direction (started the war) to survive the elections, They did not want to start the ground offence, now are keeping solgers in standby around Gaza city. Tthey want only to restore the truce for few more months. Palestinians, explain, why you are so dumb, why do not understans that they are your best friends (and true traitors of Israeli people). Netanyahu will be serious in near future, he will not hesitate to finish Hamas in few days with thousands of your casualities.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 12:36:41 PM

    Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/08/2009 10:40:58 PM

    "9/11 was heartbreaking. This is satisfying, as is everytime an evil doer gets just deserves. Go take your misguided PC bs elsewhere."


    Reply Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/09/2009 10:18:10 PM

    "If you are right that 9/11 was heartbreaking, but the deaths and mutilations of innocents in Gaza is satifying, then you justify the attitudes of those who considered that the deaths on 9/11 were justified or satisfying. They were just as right as you are, because you reduce it to just a matter of perspective."

    First define BS, and then define hypocricy.

    Come on, IdiotRichard, explain yourself.

    • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 12:45:43 PM

      "Whenever one has the opportunity to annoy people, one should do so." This is especially true of the Great Ignorant.

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 1:15:54 PM

        So true. It is the only reason you received any attention at all from me.

        • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 1:30:57 PM

          Thank you. But I do not need your or any one else's "attention." I am quite comfortable without it.

          • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 1:47:56 PM

            You say ghastly, disgusting things only to gain attention. Keep yours to yourself, and you may achieve the comfort you profess.

            • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 3:56:47 PM

              A pity you call a few comments "ghastly" and not the beheadings, car bombings, the killing of Americans, and Iraquis, by treacherous means, ad nauseum.

              • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 7:28:40 PM

                As only two of numerous examples, when you ridicule the loss of a relative in 9/11, and you say that they were one of the 9/11 pilots, any reasonable person would consider what you say to be 'ghastly'.

                That others commit atrocities neither justifies nor excuses you.

                I have condemned Hamas at this site.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 1:57:12 PM

            If that is the case ,why then come up with such a name? King Richard, the Lion Heart? You're so humble.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 1:55:57 PM

        From the contents of most of your comments, The Great Ignorant would be you, not 40YearR!

        • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 2:11:30 PM

          Thou art clearly a charter member of The Great Ignorant.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 2:48:18 PM

            Nope. I'm a scientist.

  • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/10/2009 5:46:12 PM

    Hamas claims that dogs/civilians ration is 1:1;, but nobody can verify it, because Hamas does not report its huge casualities. Most likely this ratio is 4:1. Becides, all bastard who danced in the streets after 9/11 (half a Gaza?) or after suisidal maniak killed 20 Israeli civilians deserved to be killed. So most of all all those "innicent" civilians are not so innocent.

    • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 6:53:01 PM

      Of course they are not so innocent! They chose Hamas to be their government in full knowledge of Hamas' program. They applauded the killing of non-muslims and now that they are reaping the whirlwind, they cry for sympathy. Let them eat ash!

  • Posted By: Daphne Kenward @ 01/10/2009 1:36:32 PM

    The entire world is trying their best to forget their history, These ASHKANAZI JEWS were the very people that EUROPE tried for 500 years to get rid of out of their country. Hitler who was a JEW himsels was sponcered by the De Rothchilds which is a JEWISH GANG of criminals who married into the establishment to get credibility, when they are no more than a gang of bandits that is what the word Hebrew means, look it up people. The Europeans was so desperate to get rid of these people out of Europe, they gave them a Home Land thinking they would live ther. No they did not they continue to this day, living in other peoples country to control their economic life.

    They control London, Banking, ther Run American Banking and money printing press, they control all the Central Banking in the entire world. Britain failed, in the quest to get rid of these people by giving them a home land.

    The fact is they never wanted a home land but the opportunity to destroy the global economy, they have finally managed to do exactly that. And now what does the rest of the world do?. It's like the Bank robber laughing at the victim, why because they can, Britain allowed these criminals to control their Banking system, and then expanded into America.. AIPAC control America, no one can be elected without absolute garantee that Israel can continue to destroy the world.

    Britain thought a home land would get rid of these criminals, but it was the biggest mistake they made in history.

    • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 4:12:48 PM

      Hitler was a Jew? Where did you learn that? Some madrasah? Ah, another charter member of The Great Ignorant...

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 01/10/2009 5:53:06 PM

        No, no tin madrasah. They could invent any lie but not that their best ally in 1940s was a Jew.

  • Posted By: jhmc0302 @ 01/10/2009 11:01:29 AM

    There will be no peace as long as the arab states want Isreal out of existance. Hamas is a pawn in this game funded by Iran.Syria supports Hezbolla another pawn.
    If we were to leave them to their own devices ,they would all destroy them seleves.
    Would you want to go into combat with an army,or terroist group that believes ,it's gods will for you tobe a martyr, let alone you get 72 virgins?
    Ever read "Lawrence fo Arabia. An arab is coming acrss the hot sands of the desert. He stops at a well for a drink of waterand anotfer Arab takes his rifle and from a hundred yards puts a round through the thirsty man's head.
    Lt. Lawrence ask,"Why did you do that?"His Arab guide said,"He is of the Howitat tribe and unclean,so they cannot drink our water."
    Well , my friends nothing has changed.

  • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/08/2009 8:22:56 PM

    We will have peace in the area when every muslim male is cavorting with 72 virgins. Then their women can free themselves from their burkas, get an education and get on with their lives.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/09/2009 10:09:24 PM

      This comment is no less ignorant and reprehensible than to say that all Jews should be exterminated.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 12:00:27 AM

        Excellent comment! I say you slay the king, 40YR!

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 12:08:25 AM

          Gee, and an I hadn't even gotten all those dragon guts off of me yet...

      • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 12:08:06 PM

        I would make alliance with the devil to slay the muslim cur.

        So say I, Richard The Implacable

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 12:21:21 PM

          Ah, so now we see from where the delusional IdiotRichard derives his misnomer.

          These phantasms you seek to 'reenact', were they before or after your god also said to conduct multiple Inquisitions?

          • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 12:36:13 PM

            Thou art an Imbecile. All Enemies of the Realm must be dealt with Severely.

            Thus declares Richsrd The Implacable

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 2:03:47 PM

              You sound crazy. Where exactly are you posting from?

              • Posted By: kingrichard @ 01/10/2009 2:23:09 PM

                Why, from Heaven!

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 2:44:44 PM

                  That explains it. Don't forget your Hail Marys and as an added bonus, give yourself thirty lashes and wear your hair shirt to bed.

            • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/10/2009 1:51:16 PM

              Thus spake IdiotRichard.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 01/10/2009 2:05:32 PM

          By the the looks of it, you already have. Keep in mind that payup time to your devil will come someday.

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