Ballots, Bullets And Suicide Bombers

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  • Posted By: bmaq @ 01/06/2009 4:06:27 PM

    the writer seems to suggest that democracy is "useful" to the US only when it has a political outcome that matches ours. the purpose of promoting democracy around the world is not to create a world that agrees with us, but to create governments that reflect their people. this is the very antidote to the "f__ you rage and resentment" of the occupied and the oppressed. but this does not mean that the actions that a democratically elected government are instantly agreeable to all other governements everywhere - and that countries don't have to learn that their actions have international consequences. i considered it a great victory for governemnts and democracy when the Iraq government supported Hizbullah in 2006, and that the US "let them". while the author of this piece seems to suggest that democracy is a failure if we don't get other countries to do what we want the US acted this way, it acted as a liberator, not a dictator. and the US demonstrated its long deep understanding of democracy when it understood that differences will arise from it.

    • Posted By: Tasi @ 01/06/2009 4:19:05 PM

      The Author is correct. "Democracy" is a term the Politicinas use when they want something and use rhetoric, power and funds to try to achieve. We, here in USA, are not governed by a Democracy. Look at history and the definition of Democracy as it was theorized by the ancients. Then examine how our Government operates. A Democracy??? No way. For the coming few years, we may all wish to learn how to spell...Social___s as our evolving Government form may morph into.

  • Posted By: GaryHouston @ 01/06/2009 4:08:01 PM

    stoptheviolence must be an idiot, cant spell and I doubt can read...

    • Posted By: reyortseDmalsI @ 01/06/2009 4:15:01 PM

      He's probably a radical islamist as well. He didn't say he wasn't

  • Posted By: gmacarol @ 01/06/2009 4:14:42 PM

    There can be no mediation with those who only seek the annihilation of one nation (israel) and the forced submission to their religion and subsequent culture of Islam. It's all or nothing with these nations and they hate democracy, the legal Jewish state and will not compromise as clearly seen in the refusal to accept their own adjacent homeland of Palestine alongside israel. It's not rocket science to figure out. And only in the West is the death and destruction that goes on seen as horrible. It's been a way of life for these people (and willingly, i might add) for the last 2500 years and they are slaves to it. Islam only feeds that fire of destruction with it's embrace of violence as a means to its end.

  • Posted By: reyortseDmalsI @ 01/06/2009 4:13:19 PM

    Opinions are like aholes, and yours stink stop the violence. what a bleeding heart liberal you are. You probably belive in global warming, save the gnatcatcher, save the whales, but not the human race..... Oil,lol

  • Posted By: gfrc @ 01/06/2009 4:07:50 PM

    How can Mr. Dickey term terrorists like Hamas who cowardly place their people and munitions in civilian population areas so as to invite disaster and loss of life, "occupied and oppressed?"

  • Posted By: uofijustin @ 01/06/2009 4:07:27 PM

    californialover... Your statement of "them" is VERY simplified (more on this later)!
    I happen to be a Jew by birth, but I have since disowned all religions because every one of them is man-made and God, as any of us know this magical being, does not exist! That being said, I will never support a state (Israel) that starves its neighbors in the interest of rooting out evil elements. This strategy NEVER works. I also, unequivocally, will never approve of these jihadists who think that they only exist to kill others. Nobody is born with either of these values, and the only reason these folks fight is religion. God was invented to oppress and kill others, plain and simple. Education, specifically science, is the only way we're going to dig ourselves out of this hole.
    Killing and bombing indiscriminately only hardens the two sides and only sets us backwards.
    As far as Hitler is concerned, californialover, well... you just showed your ignorance. I urge you to read books, and lots of them!!! I cannot even level an argument with you because you are so obviously uneducated about history.

  • Posted By: Tasi @ 01/06/2009 4:06:52 PM

    There can NEVER be a lasting Peace in this area. Reason? Too many generations of all sides have experienced tragic killings/murders of families. The "blood memory" is way too deep to be forgiven and overcome ---- UNTIL the people there take positive actions and take control of the goivernments and on their own --- push away the rasdicals. THEN, maybe...just maybe...Peace might have a lasting chance. Today's Leaders are the Terriorists of the past, including those in Israel. The circle is kept alive by all the terrible memories.

  • Posted By: Rick_JustMeInNewYork @ 01/06/2009 4:06:43 PM

    After he is done having the US Treasury reimburse all the investors who lost money to Madoff, he will use any money left to build more F-16s so we can swell with pride as Israel demonstrates the effectiveness of US weaponry against women and children.

  • Posted By: reyortseDmalsI @ 01/06/2009 4:01:23 PM

    The only way Obama and his administration can get along with any terrorist organization is to eliminate, defeat, radical islam. This means to profile, raid mosques, and deport non-american citizens. The elimination of Islam(radical) is necessary for world peace. The other option is to become muslim or die.

  • Posted By: BostonTeaParty13 @ 01/06/2009 4:00:04 PM

    Well Obama outwitted the American people so why not?

  • Posted By: sallyjane @ 01/06/2009 3:59:41 PM

    I think Israel is doing what Hamas forced upon themselves. I believe they're wimps hiding among school children firing thier rockets at Israel and then crying wolf,wolf after some children suffered death at Hamas hands and plans.

  • Posted By: italamerican @ 01/06/2009 3:59:34 PM

    what makes anyone think the violence will stop in this area of the world. It, for some stupid reason, has been going on for about 3000 years. I personally would level this entire area of the planet and eliminate the entire problem.

  • Posted By: JoanR @ 01/06/2009 3:58:12 PM

    Odd that among your list of the assassination Hamas leaders, the "brutal" blockade etc and the the "bombing and invasion of Gaza" You have managed to omit mention of the 5500 rockets launched by the Hamas freedom fighters randomly at Israeli population centers.Actually, for those of your ilk.. probably.not so odd at all

  • Posted By: bill buckley 6-3-85 @ 01/06/2009 3:58:12 PM

    It seems like you just read former CIA agent Robert Baer's 4th book "The Devil We Know; Dealing with the New Iranian Superpower". Currently across Iraq and Baghdad and mainly in Basra (southern Iraq) since 2005, political groups that were in exile in Iran have since returned to Iraq and gained vast power within the new government. However these groups still remain deeply connected with Iran (remember who created Hezbollah in the early 80's) and are thus Iran's subtle way of annexing Iraq without even having to conquer it militarily, but politically through financial support. And sadly it seems that the true end game is for control of energy, religion is just a front that the people at the top use to have the pawns at the bottom play the game.

  • Posted By: mjkoch @ 01/06/2009 3:46:48 PM

    What is wrong with Israel??

    Don't the Israelis know that they are supposed to sit back and do nothing when six thousand rockets are launched against their schools, homes, hospitals, supermarkets, cities and towns?

    Don't the Israelis know that when Hamas sends suicide bombers onto Israeli busses, into Israeli shopping malls and restaurants and supermarkets that the Israeli men, women, and children that are being blown to pieces should die without protest from the Israeli government and people?

    How dare Israel have the nerve to want to protects its citizens from terrorists bent on its destruction?

    By the rationale posted by some commentators on this website if you strike back at terrorists hell bent on your destruction, people who celebrate the death of every Israeli child they murder, then by striking back at the terrorists you are guilty of human rights violations. Let these fools move to Sderot and Ashkelon and endure the daily rocket attacks on THEIR families and see how they respond. These same leftists criticize Israel for protecting its citizens and blame America for 911. I guess Hitler and Stalin could be excused as well for the millions they killed. After all, Britain and America destroyed, not bombed, but destroyed entire cities in WWII. The left always blames the victims of terror and never the perpetrators.

    • Posted By: jaxpacific @ 01/06/2009 3:58:04 PM

      jeez.. thank you whoever you are. It's like we would let Mexico or Canada launch terror attacks AFTER we already have tried to appease them by giving back land.. and then we wouldn't defensively retaliate to try and detour them? Those who disagree...What are all of your ideas?? Are we supposed to encourage them to keep taking it and talk the terrorists into seeing their point of view? Study the word 'infidel' and see what it means to them. They openly state that they will not stop until israel and the US are destroyed or converted. That means you! And your family.. and theiir families! If you have a solution to such a mindset, please PLEASE enliten me. I don't think killing is good, I don't even own a gun.. but I can understand logic..

  • Posted By: SinCityScott @ 01/06/2009 3:51:33 PM

    Wow! "little leaper" has just set the bar for poor English, misspellings, and utter misunderstanding of issues fundamental to the discussion. If you can't spell the name of the President; when that name is on literally millions of pages of the web (Obama NOT "Oboma"!! Then you should NOT be allowed to post anywhere that somewhat intelligent, adults populate in hopes of positive discourse...in other words you're an idiot.

    • Posted By: wolftable @ 01/06/2009 3:57:51 PM

      excuse me so spelling is important for thinking how arrowganteeeee

  • Posted By: bill buckley 6-3-85 @ 01/06/2009 3:57:41 PM

    It seems like you just read former CIA agent Robert Baer's 4th book "The Devil We Know; Dealing with the New Iranian Superpower". Currently across Iraq and Baghdad and mainly in Basra (southern Iraq) since 2005, political groups that were in exile in Iran have since returned to Iraq and gained vast power within the new government. However these groups still remain deeply connected with Iran (remember who created Hezbollah in the early 80's) and are thus Iran's subtle way of annexing Iraq without even having to conquer it militarily, but politically through financial support. And sadly it seems that the true end game is for control of energy, religion is just a front that the people at the top use to have the pawns at the bottom play the game.

  • Posted By: sanctuaryvb @ 01/06/2009 3:55:14 PM

    Both Hizbullah and Hamas are the love/stepchildren of Israeli occupations. The real issue here is not Iran or Hamas but a seemingly unending, brtual occupation of the West Bank and total Israeli control of all access into Gaza, including by air, land and sea. As Americans our concern should be what is best for America, not Israel. I would argue that both have the same solution: an independent Palestine. American policy has done nothing but prolong the suffering of the Palestinian people and blantant bias for Israel has harmed our national interests. It's time for a major shift in American policy, one that puts the Israelis on notice and one that would give them the incentive, and the courage, to make the hard choices that we all know are coming, withdrawal from the West Bank and East Jerusalsem, and an independent Palestinian state. The sooner the better.

  • Posted By: sanctuaryvb @ 01/06/2009 3:54:58 PM

    Both Hizbullah and Hamas are the love/stepchildren of Israeli occupations. The real issue here is not Iran or Hamas but a seemingly unending, brtual occupation of the West Bank and total Israeli control of all access into Gaza, including by air, land and sea. As Americans our concern should be what is best for America, not Israel. I would argue that both have the same solution: an independent Palestine. American policy has done nothing but prolong the suffering of the Palestinian people and blantant bias for Israel has harmed our national interests. It's time for a major shift in American policy, one that puts the Israelis on notice and one that would give them the incentive, and the courage, to make the hard choices that we all know are coming, withdrawal from the West Bank and East Jerusalsem, and an independent Palestinian state. The sooner the better.

  • Posted By: Jaray24 @ 01/06/2009 3:54:39 PM

    No Obama can't change how those terror networks look at the US. None of the US Presidents have been able to do that, why would Obama be any different?

    These terror networks attack nations and people then hide behind innocent civilians to protect themselves, like cowards. I think if people want to fight do it the old fashion way, find a meadow draw lines in the dirt and fight till the death/surrender. The loser becomes subjects or ruled by the winner.

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