The Dangerous Lives Of Doves in Israel

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  • Posted By: ross1972 @ 01/13/2009 6:19:44 PM

    Some of you people need to relax,both sides are engaged in psychological warfare aimed at people just like you.Anger and hate have not served either side well and will not serve you either.We all have our opinions but let us express them logically and without emotional bias.I thougth in knew hateful people in my part of the world but you make them look positively friendly.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 6:35:41 PM

      No anger, no hate, just plain disgust
      We are smarter than we were 50 years ago
      We have far better Tech than we did 50 years ago
      So why is everythng still done the same way as it was 50 years ago?
      the answer is either depressing or disgusting that we as a species have yet to grow an inch in 50 years...

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/13/2009 6:52:37 PM

        SORRY PINK PANTHER ...

        I ACTUALLY TYPED THIS RESPONSE IN THE WRONG AREA.

        SORRY ABOUT THAT ONE

        • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 7:01:38 PM

          BTW
          I think it's very nobel of you to apoligise also...

        • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 6:59:09 PM

          no prob Omaar realy no insult or attitude

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/13/2009 6:46:01 PM

        12 ISRAELI'S KILLED AND 3-4 BY "FRIENDLY FIRE"

        WITH ALL THESE SUCCESSIVE HI-TECH ROCKETS...

        I MEAN PRIMATIVE & INACCURATE ROCKETS BEING FIRED IN 18 DAYS...

        12-15 ISRAELI'S KILLED AND 3-4 OF THEM BY THEIR OWN MEN

        TRY AGAIN, BECAUSE YOUR ROCKET MATH, I MEAN THEORY HAS JUST BEEN BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER !!!

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/13/2009 6:36:32 PM

      12 Israeli's Dead..3 By Friendly Fire

      Over [900 Palestinians] Killed

      Over [5,000 Palestinians] Injured

      Over [350 Palestinians Women & Children] Killed

      Do the Damn Math

      Israel: Superior Weapons...Larger Military...Abundance of Biological & Chemical Weapons.

      Israel: With Over 250 [Ilegally Obtained Nuclear Weapons] and Screaming "Victim"

      "Their Going To Blow Us Into The Sea"

      That's all Borderline Bull-Spit !!!

      If that were TRUE, they sure as Hell came into that Little Dump Sanctioned to Palestine, with No Problems and Literally have that Little Strip of Land in their Hands.

      The Arab World are the Countries that have a Great Chance of being...

      "Blown Off The Face Of The Earth" !!!

      Not Israel

      That Sob, Sob Story Of....

      "We are this Helpless Nation, Surrounded by Hostile Arab Nations" is....

      FALSE...A FRAUD AND A BLATANT ...[LIE] !!


  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 3:51:29 PM

    Daphne: "What we have in the world today is a Super Power who wants to destroy the world, and they will acheive it, and the people involved in these senseless wars, will end up destroying themselves too. For example Pakistan pose more of a problem to security than Iran they do have a Nuclear bomb, how did they get it, and the question has to be raised, why did no country in the world make a fuss about it, before they aquired it?."
    OK so I'm trying to refute your points here but I cant even follow this paragraph.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 6:44:25 PM

      no insult to your take on this comment, on most points i would agree.. i can't quit understand the point, but this one is one, maybe the only one, i do understand.Isreal=superpower, Iran [top of the kill-em-all list with no nukes],Pakistan, unstable and has nukes,, so this makes Pakistan more dangerous than Iran at the moment, and even though her lable was spelled wrong. the IAEA agrees with her, and the world said not a word when they became a nuclear country. That was when all countries in the region were Pro-American including OBL! this is why no one said a word.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/13/2009 6:41:54 PM

    Israel cannot be Blown into the Damn Sea.

    Israel cannot be gotten Rid Of...

    An Israel cannot be Exterminated..

    OK

    The Poor Victim, Scare Tactic Ain't Working ANYMORE...

    Israel has Weapons of Mass Destruction...

    Biological, Chemical and Over 200 Nuclear Weapons...

    They are the Oppressor....

    The Oppressed gets to Live and Become the [Oppressor]

    Everything happens in Cycles, Phases and Stages...Period

    It is Now Israel in the Oppressor's Position Now.

    Israel is No Victim Here...

    Sorry

    Note: Over 200 Illegally Obtained Nuclear Weapons, Biological & Chemical Weapons and Military Might and Israel is the Victim...

    Please

    Israel would Love to Rid the Middle East of Arabs, like they are doing now, with the Palestinians, whereas they can control all those Damn Oil Fields and turn the World's Economy in their Favor, by holding the World Hostage on Oil Prices....

    The Israeli's are no Saints when it comes to Wanting to Rid the Middle East of Arabs also....

    DUH

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 1:46:29 PM

    So we can argue about the causes of Rachel's demise forever - we wont get anywhere - I choose to believe Israeli investigations that many times admit fault (but not in this case) and you choose to believe people who hate Israel.
    Even according to your logic, you bring one case of a purported murder of one civilian in a war zone (and she knew it was a war zone - repeated warnings by American consulate...) by one Israeli - how can you explain the daily rocket attacks by Hamas that INTENTIONALLY target hundreds of thousands of women and children? How can you explain Hamas using their own as human shields?

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 6:28:09 PM

      BTW
      Do you even relise how many rockets explode when fired from the Hammas?? 1 out of 30,sounds like rocks compareed to F-17,tanks,nukes,sidewinders up the wazoo,it's like saying a VW bug is compition for a Dragster...
      with out being named The Love Bug...

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 6:23:07 PM

      the same way we justified our forfathers keeping weapons in schools churchs and in home where ever one can accumalate you store weapons. Minutemen were Freedom fighters,, called terrorist by the Brits. So if nukes were present then,, would we be here, or nuked as terrorist just trying to be free...sounds familiar,, and unless you have walked where they call home,, you have not a clue.. the Hammas are the FREEDOM fighters of the Palistiens and lebonese...they have not been free for more than 65 years and counting.. if they survive genocide.. a perfect solution in the 21st century,what losers we can be... when the words of a convicted thief fail,[Olmert] we kill,evolved,I think not...

    • Posted By: buskin @ 01/13/2009 3:51:55 PM

      Why don't you drop the word truth and stick to simple....we'll understand.

      • Posted By: MBrando @ 01/13/2009 6:13:08 PM

        I suggest that he keeps the word simple, drop truth and replace it by lie, it will be even better, Simple Lie.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 3:54:27 PM

    Daphne: "The west needs to stop all these wars and potential of wars, because if we don't we will destroy our selves. Another fake war in the Middle East cannot be ruled out. The excuse people are being given for these wars are not true."
    ???????????
    "The unfortunate thing for the west that they do not tell the people and the scientists do not speak about, if we as a people can't eat we die if we dont have un poluted (sic) water to drink we die, if th"
    OK I'm sorry - I realize your statement doesn't even warrant a refutation. Bye.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 3:50:27 PM

    Daphne: "IAED" - The International Association of Equine Dentistry - I sure hope they are not experts in nuclear arms.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 3:48:35 PM

    Daphne: "The question is does America and Israel want peace in the Middle East? I don't think they do. Because they spend more time on planning for war than they do for Peace."
    1 ??? Where did you concoct this notion that they spend more time planning for war ??? In Camp David in 2000 Israel offered more than 75% of the West Bank and the whole entire Gaza strip. Arafat refused. More recently Israel gave up the fertile Gaza regions of Gush Katif only to have it turned into a desolate desert from which to launch rockets at Israel.
    2 ??? Every country needs to have plans for war ??? especially Israel that has been on the receiving end of thousands of rockets in just the past few years alone.
    Am I the only one that actually writes statements based on logic???

  • Posted By: Daphne Kenward @ 01/13/2009 2:12:10 PM

    Mankind is not perfect, what god designed is perfect. People have designed their ideas of perfection, they have caused pollution which is killing our children, killing wild life, killing the plant life, polluting our rivers and streams. The sea and marine life also being destroyed. There is no one we as a nation or a people can appeal to to stop now, for the sake of survival of life on this planet.

    We are at the BRINK of ABSOLUTE CATASTROPHE, we are worring about the finiancial and economic melt down, we need to forget it and everyone needs to focus on survival. Forgewt money but what is necessary for life on this planet.

    Government have been playing gods, they are mortal man like all other living things on this planet, they have no special powers. They think if they do all these distructive things some how some good can come from it, no only distruction is all the garantees these Governments have and the forces behind them nothing but distruction and the distruction is that of life on earth.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 12:56:58 PM

    Hey Mbrando - do you even know anything about Rachel or are you just using her as a method to spew your hate. Your statements and sources of info are clearly flawed - Rachel wasn't near Nablus. OOPS.

    • Posted By: MBrando @ 01/13/2009 1:29:31 PM

      It was a mistake from my part, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to rectify it. Rachel was murdered by an Israeli military buldozer in Gaza, not Nablus while defending a Palestinian family's home from destruction. The rest of the story is real, anyone can check by going to:

      http://www.rachelcorriefoundation.org/
      http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

      I believe Rachel was a great loving peace American women, we as Americans should always remember her and honor her memory, and we're not going to settle until justice is done and the perpertrors of this heinous crime brought to justice.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 1:09:55 PM

    LudwigVanBett. Now now, lets be civil - Are you going to stick to the topic of Israel vs Hamas or are you going to indulge your inner hate and use this forum to express your vile antisemitic notions? Perhaps you have nothing of substance to add - then just lay low and let the adults discuss these matters.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 1:05:33 PM

    LudwigVanBett. Now now, lets be civil - Are you going to stick to the topic of Israel vs Hamas or are you going to indulge your inner hate and use this form to express your vile antisemitic notions? Perhaps you have nothing of substance to add - then just law low and let the adults discuss these matters.

  • Posted By: LudwigVanBeet @ 01/13/2009 12:50:10 PM

    Can anyone explain how and why the Joos of the World literally foam at the mouth at the sight of Money, Gold or Jewelry. Is it in their DNA or what ? It seems as if their eyes glaze over at the mention of Money.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 1:02:27 PM

      Listen, children, to a story
      That was written long ago
      About a Kingdom on a mountain
      And a valley folk down below.

      On the mountain was a treasure
      Buried deep beneath a stone
      And the valley people swore
      They'd have it for their very own.

      Go ahead and hate your neighbour.
      Go ahead and cheat a friend.
      Do it in the name of heaven.
      You can justify it in the end.
      But there won't be any trumpets blowing
      Come the judgement day.
      On the bloody morning after
      One tin soldier rides away.

      So the people of the valley
      Sent a message up the hill
      Asking for the buried treasure
      Tons of gold for which they'd kill.

      Came an answer from the Kingdom.
      ???With our brothers, we will share
      All the riches of our mountain
      All the secrets buried there.???


      Now the valley swore with anger
      ???Mount your horses, draw your swords!???
      And they killed the mountain people
      So they won their just rewards.

      Now stood beside the treasure
      On the mountain dark and red.
      Turned the stone and looked beneath it.
      ???Peace On Earth??? was all it said.

      Go ahead and hate your neighbour.
      Go ahead and cheat a friend.
      Do it in the name of heaven.
      You can justify it in the end.
      There won't be any trumpets blowing
      Come the judgement day.
      On the bloody morning after
      One tin soldier rides away.

      Go ahead and hate your neighbour.
      Go ahead and cheat a friend.
      Do it in the name of heaven.
      You can justify it in the end.
      There won't be any trumpets blowing
      Come the judgement day.
      On the bloody morning after
      One tin soldier rides away.

      Did this help?
      Welcome to Camp Lebonon

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/13/2009 12:41:56 PM

    Last Year 3 Billion Dollars of the U.S Tax Payers Billions went to Israel...

    I said 3 Billion of U.S Tax Payers Money went to Israel !!!


    That money could go where it is truly need...

    Here in the USA

    Israel is supposed to be an Independent , Self Sufficient State...

    Those Billions belong to the Poor U.S. Tax Payer, whose barely getting by or worse, Down & Out.

    Had these Billions been been given to the ...

    Poor U.S. Tax Payers of this Country and the U.S. Government Streamlined how the money would be allocated to the Poor in America and how it is to be spent invested and saved, to ensure an end to Generational Poverty...

    Generational Poverty would end within 25-30 Years, for a Great number of Impoverished Americans.

    Yet the US Government is Dolling out US Tax Payers Money to Israel and other Countries.

    This must END, not only in Israel's case, but for Most Countries we Give Honest Tax Payers Millions-Billions to.

    We have got to put Americans and their Financial Duress First and not Last.


    Put American's Issues and Concerns First

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 12:55:12 PM

      very good point... yes we sent funds in which Olmert was tried convicted as GUILTY of pocketing that money for Isreal and the aid funds for the Palistiens, and was going to step down,,, and went right into Gaza,,, still in charge..
      you still make a good point that the USA should get narsistic and take care of ourselves ONLY for awhile till we are self sufficent again..Not bankrupt

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 01/13/2009 11:52:01 AM

    Pinkpanther who exactly respected the Kamkazi? Where did you read this or whom may I ask did you talk to about this? In fact one of the primary reasons for dropping the A-bomb on Japan was becasue the US feared their suicide tendency. There were factions of the Japanese gov. at the time who actually called for the entire country to either take poison and die, rather than risk the humiliation of defeat or take up arms, women and children and fight to the very end. This fanatisicm was one of the primary reasons the US (for right or wonrg) dropped the A-bomb. Respect indeed? A radical is a radical fanatisicm is fanatisicm either way

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 12:09:25 PM

      We dropped a A-bomb on them because we KNEW they would never quit,never, just like us,never. The respect I came to know all to well came from a Naval officer who was shot plenty on Dec 7th 1941 spent his recovery in a concentration camp due to his father was part Jap,so blow your horn somewhere else..Respected and feared but religion had zip to do with it it was pure pride in ones way of life...

  • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 01/13/2009 12:35:14 AM

    ALL BEST ANSWER TO ZIONIST ATTROCITIES IS SUICIDE BOMBERS........AND THERE ARE WHOLE LOT OF THEM THANKS TO ZIONISTS......

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 11:24:17 AM

      Funny in WWII we respected the Sucide bombers out of pride for there country...KAMAKAZI

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 01/13/2009 11:26:59 AM

        That ain't Muslim either!!!

  • Posted By: MBrando @ 01/13/2009 7:35:20 AM

    On Marsh 16, 2003, Rachel Corrie the American activist was murdered by an israeli soldier. Rachel was trying to stop a buldozer from tear in down palestinian homes, She sat in front of the buldozer. The soldier in control of the buldozer drove it delberatly over her. He the backed up, and ran over her again.

    This cold-blooded murder shows the real face of the Zionists, and the dehumanization that characterizes the occupation.

    http://www.rachelcorrie.org/statements.htm

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/13/2009 8:42:31 AM

      MYTH
      Rachel Corrie was murdered by Israel while she was peacefully protesting against the illegal demolition of a Palestinian home.???

      FACT
      A misleading photo published by the Associated Press gave the impression that Corrie was standing in front of the bulldozer and shouting at the driver with a megaphone, trying to prevent the driver from tearing down a building in the refugee camp. This photo, which was taken by a member of Corrie???s organization, was not shot at the time of her death, however, but hours earlier. The photographer said that Corrie was actually sitting and waving her arms when she was struck.23

      Israel???s Judge Advocate???s Office investigated the incident and concluded that the driver of the bulldozer never saw or heard Corrie because she was standing behind debris that obstructed the view of the driver whose field of view was limited by the small armored windows of his cab. An autopsy found that the cause of Corrie???s death was falling debris.24

      The State Department warned Americans not to travel to Gaza, and Israel made clear that civilians who enter areas where troops are engaged in counter-terror operations put themselves unnecessarily at risk.

      http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf24.html#p

      • Posted By: MBrando @ 01/13/2009 9:42:06 AM

        Israel can not be the executioner and the judge in the same time for the death of Rachel Corrie. The incident should be investigated by independant investigators other than the Israelis.
        All the evidences shows that Rachel was deliberatly murdred by the israeli soldier. These are facts not myths.

  • Posted By: Simple Truth @ 01/13/2009 7:59:50 AM

    Ahhhhh Boforce. The rantings of a sane man. Ohhh and MBrando, before posting your propaganda, perhaps you should take some time to learn the facts: After many investigative reports Rachel's death was determined to be an accident. (Without even getting into the facts how she was staying in a place where arms were being smuggled in and Palestinian sniper's were shooting at Israeli personnel - all this after burning the American flag and disgracing our country...)

    • Posted By: MBrando @ 01/13/2009 8:22:39 AM

      This is a lie, and an insult for the memory of Rachel Corrie. Here it is a summary of her death by witnesses who were with her in Nablus Marsh, 16 2003 :

      Rachel was trying to stop the demolition of a Palestinian home. According to the other activists who were with her, she was in dialogue with the operator of the bulldozer. She was working in the spirit of nonviolence that is a guiding principle of the ISM, which provides support for Palestinian civilians and for nonviolent efforts to bring about justice for Palestine. Rachel climbed up on the bulldozer to talk to the soldier in the cockpit. She climbed down. She sat in front of the bulldozer. The soldier in control of the huge machine drove it deliberately over her. He then backed up, and ran over her again. Rachel was twenty-three years old.

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/13/2009 8:40:20 AM

        MYTH

        ???Rachel Corrie was murdered by Israel while she was peacefully protesting against the illegal demolition of a Palestinian home.???

        FACT

        A misleading photo published by the Associated Press gave the impression that Corrie was standing in front of the bulldozer and shouting at the driver with a megaphone, trying to prevent the driver from tearing down a building in the refugee camp. This photo, which was taken by a member of Corrie???s organization, was not shot at the time of her death, however, but hours earlier. The photographer said that Corrie was actually sitting and waving her arms when she was struck.23

        Israel???s Judge Advocate???s Office investigated the incident and concluded that the driver of the bulldozer never saw or heard Corrie because she was standing behind debris that obstructed the view of the driver whose field of view was limited by the small armored windows of his cab. An autopsy found that the cause of Corrie???s death was falling debris.24

        The State Department warned Americans not to travel to Gaza, and Israel made clear that civilians who enter areas where troops are engaged in counter-terror operations put themselves unnecessarily at risk.

        http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf24.html#p

        • Posted By: MBrando @ 01/13/2009 9:41:33 AM

          Israel can not be the executioner and the judge in the same time for the death of Rachel Corrie. The incident should be investigated by independant investigators other than the Israelis.
          All the evidences shows that Rachel was deliberatly murdred by the israeli soldier. These are facts not myths.

  • Posted By: jupitermadcat @ 01/12/2009 8:46:18 PM

    Posted By: jasaahae @ 01/12/2009 8:20:02 PM
    Israel is the worlds last remaining Apartheid State and it will eventually fall just as the Apartheid government of South Africa fell in the 1990's. The very courageous Palestinian are not as militarily strong as the Israelis, however they have human justice and principles on their side and they will eventually defeat Israel and zionism.

    Its amazing how the world stands by and does nothing under fear of being called an anti-semite. Wake up world! The term "anti-semite" has been abused and is now used to attack anyone critical of Israel.

    Long Live Palestine and death to zionism !!!

    You and People like you are the threat! idiot

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 01/13/2009 8:47:58 AM

      Seems the real message you are sending is " long live Islamic intolerance of other cultures."

  • Posted By: bajan man @ 01/12/2009 12:17:26 AM

    After being around as long as cockroaches, the *** only have a population of about 15 million world-wide out of a global population of almost 7.5 billion. Why? The reason is simple: Wherever these people go they cause problems. That explains the Pogroms and the so-called holocaust. It is also evident in ordinary circumstances. Whenever there are three of more of these people together anywhere in the world, there will be problems. They are unable to get along with normal people in any civilised society. This, I believe, is the result of their proclivity to lie, steal and cheat. I have been told that these traits are in their DNA. Whether this is true or not I do not know; I only know the results.

    • Posted By: AvoidDoubleStandards @ 01/12/2009 1:47:05 AM

      So Jews "lie steal and cheat". Very nice. You might want to check out "Hamas Mickey Mouse" on Youtube.

      Considering all of the hatred toward Jews, it's a wonder they don't just blow up Gaza. I wonder what Hamas would do if they had the military capability to kill all of the Jews.Since you're so angry with Israel, I wonder if you're as angry at the Sudanese Muslim government for its genocide against Christians in Darfur? My guess is that you don't worry about Christians being killed, since they are the next to be attacked after the Jews.

      Incidentally, you note that Jews number less than one thousandth of the worlds population. Did you know that they comprise one quarter of the Nobel prize winners?

      • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 01/13/2009 4:38:44 AM

        AvoidDoubleStandars, please do not change the issue... we are talking about Gaza and not Darfur.... but since you mentioned it, Darfur was not attacked by the Sudanese government.... Ethiopia (backed by the US) is in Darfur to create trouble in the region.

    • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 01/12/2009 12:07:41 PM

      This post is the opposite "bookend" to LIEITIS' racist diatribe (above, wherein he calls for Israel to conduct a genocide against Palestinians). Racism helped GET the world (and the Middle East) to this sorry point, and continues to fuel the fire. Racism is part of the problem...it is no part of any reasonable solution.

      I am a staunch critic of Israel's murderous policies over the years, but I think peace must come FROM the Israeli side That is the most likely source of an eventual peace initiative...the hundreds of thousands of Jews who love justice enough to overcome apparent parochial interests in controlling all the land the Zionists claim is, or should be, theirs. Israel is the side with the greatest power...this war over land will continue until ISRAEL realizes that the ordinary human rights of Palestinians, too, to self-determination in their own homeland, must be respected, if there is to be peace. Unless Israelies already know that, but continue to want the land...all of it... MORE than they want peace.

  • Posted By: AvoidDoubleStandards @ 01/11/2009 11:53:23 AM

    Thanks to all the angry anti-semitic bloggers for revealing the depth of your hatred toward Jews. This hatred is the reason Israel exists. The world hates Israel for its Gaza incursion. Nobody gives a crap about China supplying the genocidal regime in Sudan. Nobody cared when Russia blew up Grozny and killed tens of thousands. And nobody cared when Kuwait kicked a quarter million Palestinians out of that country in the 1990's in the harshest example of ethnic cleansing seen in decades.

    Israel retaliates in Gaza and the whole world is aghast. Do you see the double standard? It's obvious that Israel is trying to avoid civilian casualties, because they could blow Gaza up if they felt like it. Their ratio of three militants killed for every civilian is pretty good, considering all the youtube videos showing Hamas terrorists launching missiles from civilian roofs, alleys adjacent to schools, etc. The goal of Hamas is to get Israel to retaliate and mistakently kill innocents, so that we all see the carnage and hate the Jews. After reading the racist drivel on this board, I realize that the Israelis should be supported at all costs. If we let intolerant, racist, extremist Islamic terrorists to gain politically from their actions, we will all be paying the price some day.

    • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 01/13/2009 4:27:27 AM

      AvoidDoubleStandars, don't try to change the issue. We are not talking about China here.... We should be grateful for the Chinese for giving the world all the cheap and affordable products and christmas toys. Don't drag China into the Gaza issue. It is the zionist problem not the Chinese one, stupid!

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