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Obama’s Cheney Dilemma

Cheney pushed for expanded presidential powers. Now that he's leaving, what will come of his efforts? The new president won't have to wait long to tip his hand.

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  • Posted By: DoMaNo @ 01/14/2009 6:56:17 PM

    High Level - We've been SAFE and free from disaster since Bush took office and was presented with some irresponsible Presidenting left by impeached former President Bill Clinton. Every single American should thank Bush for a job well done. He has upheld our constitution and keep our home lands safe. If we have an attack on our soil in the next year, Obama's days are numbered quickly. He will go down as one of the worst President's ever. He knows this (now) and is trying to figure out how not to piss-off his liberal followers but also save his Presidency. The man has a tough road ahead of him and his professionalisms will quickly deminish as more attacks are attempted. America is about to really see what we voted in - inexperience, non-decision making chief executive, in my opinion.

    • Posted By: maak @ 07/21/2009 4:52:07 PM

      Brief history lesson: World War I (won with Democrats in power). World War II (won with Democrats in power). Korea - (stalemate with republicans in power). Vietnam (loss with republicans in power). 9/11 - bush ignored all warnings and allowed an attack on th U.S..
      Over 70% of the hijackers were Saudis. bush allowed bin laden's family to fly out - while all other planes were grounded). He then attacked Iraq (one of the few non-sectarian countries in the middle east. bush destroyed our economy and weakened us internationally. If he had been president when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, he would have invaded Mexico. Facts are a messy thing (especially for retardlicans).

    • Posted By: rapidron @ 01/14/2009 7:21:01 PM

      DoMaNo -- Obama hasn't even taken office yet and you're calling him the worst president ever??

      Wow, wtf is wrong with you and please leave the country you hypocritical idiot. Haha, yes I'm stooping to your level, get over it you loser.

      • Posted By: DoMaNo @ 01/14/2009 8:32:19 PM

        Interesting Rapidron... I live in the great state of Illinois and have asked the simple question, "What has Obama done for me or any other citizen in this state?" No one can answer it. We know he voted Present.

        You appear to have voted for Obama - can I ask why? Don't make comments like you were looking for change, as no one can define change. What do you anticipate will happen with Obama as President?

    • Posted By: JuanRosario @ 01/14/2009 7:15:24 PM

      High Level - We've been SAFE and free from disaster since Bush took office and was presented with some irresponsible Presidenting left by impeached former President Bill Clinton. Every single American should thank Bush for a job well done. He has upheld our constitution and keep our home lands safe. If we have an attack on our soil in the next year, Obama's days are numbered quickly. He will go down as one of the worst President's ever. He knows this (now) and is trying to figure out how not to piss-off his liberal followers but also save his Presidency. The man has a tough road ahead of him and his professionalisms will quickly deminish as more attacks are attempted. America is about to really see what we voted in - inexperience, non-decision making chief executive, in my opinion.

      Dear DoMaNo:
      Though you have every right to express your own opinion, you won't look like such as idiot if you get your information straight.
      First, BIll Clinton was not impeached, but almost impeached by the Republican Senate for "misconduct" in the Oval Office. Bill was an idiot for screwing around, but he did not violate any laws really. besides lying to the Senate.
      Second, President Bush is not known for upholding our Consitution. Protecting America yes, but upholding the Constitution< I think not. He repeatedly circumvented the Judicial Branch, the State Department, and Congress in his well intentioned but illegal ways to keep American safe.
      Third. The worst president ever was probably Herbert Hoover, or Grant, or Harrison. I doubt a popular President like Obama will even make this list. Bush will probably fit higher on that list than Obama ever will, but only time will tell.
      As for your personal opinion about OBama, do you think George W. Bush came to office with more experience than Obama has now? I would love to hear your response to that.

    • Posted By: jperiod @ 01/14/2009 7:07:36 PM

      911 happened on Bush's watch - despite warnings given him by the Clinton Administration.

    • Posted By: rapidron @ 01/14/2009 7:06:56 PM

      9/11 happened a year into Bush's presidency. If you'll blame this on Clinton before him, then we may as well blame Abraham Lincoln for setting things up for that 9/11 could happen--get the idea?

      Take your head our of Rush Limbaugh's fat-ass and think for yourself.

  • Posted By: maak @ 07/21/2009 4:49:39 PM

    Interesting that you would not trust Democrats to defend this country. Brief history lesson: World War I (won with Democrats in power). World War II (won with Democrats in power). Korea - (stalemate with republicans in power). Vietnam (loss with republicans in power). 9/11 - bush ignored all warnings and allowed an attack on th U.S..
    Over 70% of the hijackers were Saudis. bush allowed bin laden's family to fly out - while all other planes were grounded). He then attacked Iraq (one of the few non-sectarian countries in the middle east. Facts are a messy thing (especially for retardlicans).

  • Posted By: lorcar21 @ 02/16/2009 2:05:05 PM

    Stop being a "Dick". You are no longer in power yet you still seek media attention and seem to have a very difficult time in letting go. You are the worse V.P. ever. You and your goons lined your pockets with tax payers cash from the moment you stepped into office. "Curious George" and yourself ruined the reputation of America. There is no end in sight as to the damage you both created. The only thing that I have comfort in is that, you do not have much life left. I cannot wait to hear "Dick Cheney is dead". It cannot come soon enough for me. Selfish cowards you both should burn in hell along with every nikel you took from this country leaving most homless, jobless, and in debt. A full investigation should be launched againt your entire (what you call) administration and should pay for your countless actions.

    GOD have NO MERCY on your crappy soul.

  • Posted By: lorcar21 @ 02/16/2009 2:00:56 PM

    Stop being a "Dick". You are no longer in power yet you still seek media attention and seem to have a very difficult time in letting go. You are the worse V.P. ever. You and your goons lined your pockets with tax payers cash from the moment you stepped into office. "Curious George" and yourself ruined the reputation of America. There is no end in sight as to the damage you both created. The only thing that I have comfort in is that, you do not have much life left. I cannot wait to hear "Dick Cheney is dead". It cannot come soon enough for me. Selfish cowards you both should burn in hell along with every nikel you took from this country leaving most homless, jobless, and in debt. A full investigation should be launched againt your entire (what you call) administration. GOD have NO MERCY on your crappy soul.


  • Posted By: lorcar21 @ 02/16/2009 1:55:50 PM

    Stop being a "Dick". You are no longer in power yet you still seek media attention and seem to have a very difficult time in letting go. You are the worse V.P. ever. You and your goons lined your pockets with tax payers cash from the moment you stepped into office. "Curious George" and yourself ruined the reputation of America. There is no end in sight as to the damage you both created. The only thing that I have comfort in is that, you do not have much life left. I cannot wait to hear "Dick Cheney is dead". It cannot come soon enough for me. Selfish cowards you both should burn in hell along with every nikel you took from this country leaving most of the homless, jobless, and in debt. GOD have NO MERCY on your crappy soul.

  • Posted By: lorcar21 @ 02/16/2009 1:51:38 PM

    Dear Dick,

    Stop being a "Dick". You are no longer in power yet you still seek media attention and seem to have a very difficult time in letting go. You are the worse V.P. ever. You and your goons lined your pockets with tax payers cash from the moment you stepped into office. "Curious George" and yourself ruined the reputation of America. There is no end in sight as to the damage you both created. The only thing that I have comfort in is that, you do not have much life left. I cannot wait to hear "Dick Cheney is dead". It cannot come soon enough for me. Selffish cowards you both should burn in hell along with every nikel you took from this country.

  • Posted By: sana1+1=2 @ 01/25/2009 11:54:18 AM

    Every American who approves harsh interrogations should be ashamed of himself. The United States of America has become the #1 country in the world by spreading its culture of freedom. Freedom is the core of the US constitution, and all the amendments revolve around it. How many European, Asian, African, Jew, Christian, Muslim, straight, gay, liberal, conservative??? left their own country and came to the States to enjoy this freedom? After more than three hundred years of promoting liberties, democracy, social equality???After condemning suppression, dictatorship, discrimination???After years of dreams, hope, acts, conflicts, wars, reconciliation??? After all this hard work, comes the Bush administration to blow up the temple of liberties, to drown us in the Dark Ages??? terror. This administration claims that it saved the United States from ???possible threats???. Wow! We should be impressed by these inspiring statements! The people of the Middle East, Central and South America, and Africa, where Bush is promoting his understanding of ???Democracy??? are definitely more impressed! These people are looking forward to regimes that cannot provide them with security unless harsh interrogations and abusive jails as ???Guantánamo Bay prison camp??? and ???Abu Ghraib??? are held. I love Bush???s statements! They make me understand why some scientists were tortured, many philosophers were persecuted, and so many witches were burned at the stake! They make me realize that since Bush has many ignorant supporters nowadays, no wonder those absurd judgments were made a long long long time ago! Since the beginning of the life on Earth, evil is making life harder. Over the time, humanity had settled systems and laws to deal with evil. Every day, we are learning how to conquer evil with a more civilized way than the day before; and we should not let anyone drive us back to the dark ages again, especially someone claiming that he is spreading democracy in the wild part of this world!!

  • Posted By: Jewles @ 01/24/2009 10:20:20 AM

    Regarding your recent article, "What Would Dick Do" by Evan Thomas and Stuart Taylor, it seems nothing more that an propaganda piece defending vice president Cheney's tactics and policies during the Bush administration. Policies including the most basic human rights abuse, torture.

    Several authorities on interrogation techniques (including military personnel) contend that most information collected by means of torture is basically useless. It violates international law and puts our own captured military personal at risk. It shames us in the global community and destroys our credibility when we call for human rights abroad. Far from discouraging terrorism, we generate new terrorists and give fresh ammunition to our enemies.

    We have lost our collective soul when we not only fail to oppose, but applaud torture as heroic and necessary to our nation???s security. It is neither. It is an act of cowardice and betrayal to all our nation???s founders fought and died for. Torture is an affront to our spiritual beliefs. The right claims our nation???s government was founded on Christian values. If so, who would Jesus torture? Could we have been so condemnatory of the Nazis if the Nuremberg Trials were held today?

    For the truth about torture, go to Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch websites.
    Better yet, take another look at those photos from the Abu Ghraib/prisoner abuse scandal. Did Lynndie England and Charles Graner make us safer? Do monsters and sexual predators protect us? What we saw was simple depravity.
    But the above outrage served a purpose. It showed why people *really* torture. They enjoy it.
    I pray President Obama leads our country in justice and compassion and that we regain our humanity.



  • Posted By: KaySD @ 01/21/2009 9:06:30 PM

    The authors say that the opinion that torture doesn't yield truth is a liberal shibboleth, but they didn't offer an alternative universe where torture yields truth, did they? Perhaps becuase such a universe has not been found? The Geneva Convention got it right and Taylor and Thomas did not change reality by calling names. Victor Juhasz revolting cartoon on the cover means it will not see the light of day again. Sorry Newsweek you sure blew that one.

  • Posted By: joeoutlaw @ 01/20/2009 2:25:43 PM

    Let's recap.

    On Al-Marri: "Both options would be political nightmares. "
    On Closing Gitmo: "But it's not clear what he will do with the 250 or so detainees now living there."
    On broader military justice issues: "Obama will have to solve other thorny issues, such as what to do with enemy combatants held in military prisons overseas (not just at Gitmo, but locations like the prison at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan). "
    On presidential power: "Obama will discover, if he hasn't already, that presidents live in a gray area."

    Being president requires difficult decisions. Let's hope that the lesson of the Cheney/Bush years is that how incredibly dangerous it is to take the easy way out when faced with hard choices. The Cheney doctrine of absolute executive power and scorn for the rule of law is the slacker's and the coward's way. If you don't have the skills of persuasion to convince allies to topple a mass murderer, shade the intelligence a little. If it is difficult to protect the nation's borders because you don't understand your enemies, lock up enough people that the law of averages will ensure that you get some bad guys. If people ask you to do the hard work of trying people in a court of law, ignore them. An always remember, as President Nixon said "It's not illegal if the president does it." So, if you can't gather intelligence use torture--you'll have some success and you can use that to claim the ends justify the means.

    I remember one time my father laughing at someone using the trope about being honest because it is easier than remembering lies--"You don't understand, " he said. "The liar has it easy. He just tells another lie. The honest man has to keep figuring out what the truth is."

    Let's hope that now we will take the harder road. The destination is so much better.

  • Posted By: the Mystic Oracle @ 01/20/2009 12:09:46 AM

    After reading these comments, now I know why Cheney said that higher education created democrats. these Republicans are to pig headed to to understand big words or any thing they can't parrot from Rush Limbaugh. And he just makes up facts as he goes along.

  • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 01/19/2009 11:54:10 PM

    The burden of guilt on the shoulders of Dick Cheny is so enomourous that the Son Of B*i*t*c*h can;t stand on his legs.He will be attending OBMA'S oath taking ceremony on wheel chair.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 01/15/2009 7:05:30 PM

    Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.
    A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity ??? as liberals do. A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population ??? as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state ??? as liberals do.
    The roots of liberalism...and its associated madness...can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood...and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind. When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.
    Basically LIBERALISM IS A WILLFUL FAILURE TO MATURE BEYOND ADOLESENCE that can have catastrophic consequences for society. With luck, the official diagnosis of this disease by a mental health professional will facilitate the search for a cure.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: the Mystic Oracle @ 01/16/2009 10:24:43 PM

      Holly Ranter From my experience with people like you, it makes me think you were looking in the mirror as you went into your juvenile diatribe. Liberals think for themselves which is why when they are in power there is so much dissent in the ranks. Look at how conservatives always stand together, you give any thought process over to people like Rush Limbaugh, who makes his facts fit into his perceptions, rather than making his perceptions out of the facts. You need to go back to third grade and learn to think for your self.

      • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 01/17/2009 2:19:06 PM

        And from my experience HR is right on the money with his post, especially when he says "LIBERALISM IS A WILLFUL FAILURE TO MATURE BEYOND ADOLESENCE". How true. The flower-children of the so-called 'enlightened' 60's are now the parasites of the new millenium, looking to the government to bail out their sorry @sses at every turn.

  • Posted By: Wardog0000 @ 01/19/2009 5:14:21 PM

    Newsweek spent the last two years pushing the Obama nomination and then his election by charging the Bush administration with criminality, negligence and downright evil.
    Now that Obama is being sworn in as President, he is back tracking on most every statement he made while campaigning, calling it mere rhetoric and not to be taken seriously. I am not surprised that the editors of Newsweek have once again demonstrated that they have no serious stands on anything and are now saying that everything they criticized Bush for doing to keep America safe is now OK for Obama to do. If I had voted for Obama based on what he promised to do during the campaign, I would be really upset at the amount of lies he told me. As it is, I can set bemused on the sidelines waiting for the Democrats to realize they have been swindled.

    • Posted By: Mason Yonu @ 01/19/2009 6:56:42 PM

      Yes, you do sound bemused. What you are missing is that Bush's criminality, negligence, and evil behavior extends back much longer than two years. But like the rest of the so-called "liberal media" Newsweek supported him until it became unprofitable. It was not until public opinion finally turned against Bush DESPITE the cover he had been given by the corporate media that they began to mention his perfidy and criminality. And the only reason they did it then was to sell more magazines.

  • Posted By: BrianFH01 @ 01/18/2009 4:23:12 AM

    If only "working with Congress" weren't tantamount to consulting and getting an OK from a roomful of juvenile blabbermouth security risks!

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 01/16/2009 4:33:50 PM

    The high pitch of emotion that has been demonstrated by the public in this last presidential election needs to be recognized for what it really is. It wasn???t just interest in individual candidates that spelled the defeat of others but rather a sincere frustration and feverish discontent with the status quo. The Republican Party caught the venom of all of it as they paid for eight years of thumbing their noses at the people with their stubborn and irresponsible support for the Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rice-Rumsfeld-etal administration who belligerently and arrogantly pursued their own private agenda for the benefit of Special Interests and a select few, those who returned support, contributions and promises for after-office compensation (???kickbacks???), all while pompously giving only apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge to the people. The mistake would now be to interpret that as carte blanche approval for the Democratic Party. Barack Obama has stimulated the hearts of the people with real hope for an honest and conscientious government to provide better things to come but one would be foolish to assume that he is all things for all people or that he will easily accomplish everything and simply change Washington. Republican leaders are already predicting their comeback based not so much on their improving their offering but more on the turn around that history seems to guarantee. The problem perpetuated throughout the system is simply that everything is focused on campaigning and on show and not on performance; everything depends on finances and on manipulating public opinion as being more important than responsibly and conscientiously doing the job. It amounts to that the people are important only during elections but the rest of the time, when they are taken for granted, it is time to pay back the political backers and for self-indulgence while just giving the people a lot of rhetoric.
    (continued below)

    • Posted By: Mason Yonu @ 01/17/2009 3:27:25 PM

      "everything depends on finances and on manipulating public opinion"
      Yes and we have a chance now to demand public financing of campaigns so that politicians will answer to the public interest instead of to those special interests who finance their elections. We are seeing in the financial crisis the results of letting those special interests have their way and America will be paying the price for generations. We cannot afford NOT to move to a system of public financing.

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 01/16/2009 4:35:53 PM

      (continuing from above)

      The Bush-Cheney administration very likely has been the worst but they really are not alone. Right now, in the middle of the Obama high, we are seeing a low class drama being played out in Illinois and not only is it very likely a boldly corrupt governor but the Illinois Democrats can???t even select a senator without getting caught up in unproductive racial, both pro and con, bickering. The problem is that everywhere you look, Illinois, Alaska, ,, and of course Washington DC, it is always just about them and not ever as it should be, about honestly doing the job; it is as if they understand that the people can easily be manipulated and they then have their focus on themselves and on cultivating their needed financial support. If the current explosion of concern demonstrated in this last election could only be harnessed and directed to force real financial reform, then there possibly could be drastic improvement. We could possible see more quality, honestly conscientious candidates, independent of the need for (controlling) financial backers, and resulting in even more political Parties representing more interests and requiring the building of coalitions to represent everyone rather than just having a few powerful and influential people dictate everything. Imagine the value of having the Republican Party split into both an ultra-conservative party representing the extreme conservative positions of Special Interests and a select few and a moderately conservative party representing a large portion of the middle-class; the same applies to the extreme and moderate liberal divisions of the Democratic Party. We really don???t ever need more of what we have just had and we really need to recognize that the two-party system just doesn???t work very well, at least not for the people.

  • Posted By: DougH @ 01/17/2009 11:26:27 AM

    Waterboarding is not torture. What the Japanese did to our troops in WWII is torture. What the N. Koreans did to our troops in the early 50's is torture. Waterboarding, except that it scares the prisoner into talking, doesn't cost him bodily parts. Doesn't cost him a severed head. He still has all his fingernails. None of his bones are broken.

    Bush/Cheney got the same intelligence that Clinton received (George Tenet's CIA). They acted on it with the consent of congress. Every senior member of the Democrat party was parroting that we should have done exactly what the Bush Administration did and only turned on him for political purposes.

    This article in the very liberal Newsweek is an amazing vindication of the Bush administration and it's to Newsweek's credit... except why weren't they saying this prior to the election? It's because they want these powers justified for "their" guy and wanted to use them against Bush. It's as simple as that.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 01/17/2009 2:21:40 PM

      Well said and spot on the money!

  • Posted By: Mason Yonu @ 01/17/2009 11:45:14 AM

    DougH says "Bush...acted with the consent of Congress." Remember that when Bush asked Congress for the power to invade Iraq he called it "a vote for peace", he told them he needed the power for diplomatic leverage, and he promised he would exhaust every diplomatic option before going to war. That turned out to be a lie. Yet ever since then the so-called "liberal press" has characterized that vote as a vote for war, not "a vote for peace" as Bush had characterized it.

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