Obama’s Cheney Dilemma

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  • Posted By: sinz52 @ 01/11/2009 11:47:39 AM

    There is no executive order barring assassination of "political figures." There is only an executive order barring assassination of legitimate heads of state.

    A President cannot order the assassination of Kim Jong-Il, no matter how awful a man he had been. But a President certainly can, and should, assassinate any al-Qaeda leaders anywhere on earth, at any time we can target them. There is nothing in any law that prevents this.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/11/2009 12:08:54 PM

      Then why didn't Bush/Cheney do that to OBL and Al Zawahiri?

      Opps, forgot. Their 'intelligence' told them they had a more important job in getting that evil doer who posed such an imminent threat in Iraq...

  • Posted By: Commenter #456342 @ 01/11/2009 12:05:09 PM

    Let Cheney and his thugs point to any evidence that shows they protected anybody through use of torture.

    Send them off to be judged by International Courts at the Hague, because the truth be not be found in Washington.

  • Posted By: sinz52 @ 01/11/2009 11:45:15 AM

    There is no executive order barring presidents from assassinating "political figures" except for legitimate heads of state.

    A President cannot order the assassination of, say, Kim Jong-Il, no matter how awful a man he is.

    But a President can order the assassination of any al-Qaeda terrorist, anywhere on earth, at any time.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 01/11/2009 11:43:09 AM

    Posted at article on Panetta at CIA:

    Posted By: bobcat4424 @ 01/10/2009 7:32:06 PM

    I have been in the field and I can tell you right now what those people want. They want immunity from prosecution. They want insurance to cover possible lawsuits. They want legislative protections for their pensions. They know what they did was wrong and they just want the government to cover their butts. And I'm sorry, folks, a lot of them will wind up in jail. They knew it was wrong and didn't have the balls to quit.

  • Posted By: rsl775 @ 01/11/2009 10:17:34 AM

    Level with the American people about how your going to protect them because the bad guys promise not to listen. Sounds good to me.

  • Posted By: roy12560 @ 01/11/2009 9:28:00 AM

    Torture has no place in American society or government, as do anti-Constitutional power grabbing political administrations that should have been impeached years ago. Contrary to this Newsweek article's assertions, Obama has absolutely no obligation to carry on any of the Bush-Cheney ideas, failed philosophies or unlawful actions. Obama needs to rub out completely the stain left by Bush-Cheney that has only further endangered Americans and our allies at home and abroad. That is first on the list of an agenda to restoring America's credibility in the world.

  • Posted By: roy12560 @ 01/11/2009 9:16:33 AM

    This article is based upon a phooney premise: that Bush Cheney acted to prevent another terrorists attack on America. That was only a secondary concern. They attempted to instill a Republican power grab and long-time Republican control of power. The plan failed.

  • Posted By: Nestroy @ 01/11/2009 8:55:30 AM

    Why should Obama 'dial back his campaign rhetoric'?? He was elected by a clear majority on the basis of these promises. The people obviously wanted those promises to be acted upon. Is this a democracy or isn't it? Shame on you, Newsweek. Why don't you go live in Cuba?

  • Posted By: Acharn @ 01/11/2009 5:55:16 AM

    From the accounts I've read, the "information" the torturers got from Khalid Sheik Mohammed turned out to be lies in every instance that could be checked. Of course the torturers still believe that the items that could not be checked were true. The only thing torture is good for is extracting confessions. Actionable intelligence may be mixed in with the lies, but torture can't separate the two.

    The President would be well advised NOT to retain an option to use torture.

    Although President Bush and Vice President Cheney have claimed that torture produced valuable information, they have never given a single example. Now I know they ore so obsessed with secrecy that they believe it will help terrorists if they even reveal the brand of toothpaste they use, but this kind of secrecy makes it impossible for them to make their case. Opponents of torture will not be persuaded that it is sometimes useful without evidence.

    The reason they have not been able to convict anyone of serious crimes is because the people they detained are NOT "the worst in the world."

  • Posted By: yolandarendon @ 01/11/2009 1:58:42 AM

    Since Cheney is such an advocate of enhanced interrogation techniques he himself and other high ranking White House Officials should be treated in similiar fashion so that all of us can finally learn valuable information and the real truth about the Iraqi invasion.

  • Posted By: yolandarendon @ 01/11/2009 1:57:13 AM

    Since Cheney is such an advocate of enhanced interrogation techniques he himself and other high ranking White House Officials should be treated in similiar fashion so that all of us can finally learn valuable information and the real truth about the Iraqi invasion.

  • Posted By: Against-Ignorance @ 01/10/2009 9:14:07 PM

    I definitely approve of the idea that the president should have to personally sign any orders involving actions that might be considered torture. Any one to cowardly to put his or her name on this sort of dirty work has little right to be president.

  • Posted By: midnight05 @ 01/10/2009 7:05:35 PM

    The Cheney era subordinated the Constituion to a rather despotic sense of the Presidency and Obama has to put it back even if it means less power than Bush was wlling to assume. It is essential for the President to return the Presidency to what it ought to be. No President should be able to act like the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland.

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