The Enigma In Chief

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  • Posted By: toofyhead2 @ 01/12/2009 10:52:28 AM

    Winning in Iraq and successfully defending the homeland were not missteps. Too bad the left takes our safety for granted. If we had been vulnerable after 9/11 then that could be a misstep. it must really irk the left that they were unable to force the U.S. into defeat like they did in Vietnam. It will irk them even more when Obama chooses not to abandon Iraq. How they hate it when the U.S. succeeds!

    • Posted By: Burlap Mudflap @ 01/12/2009 2:33:20 PM

      So it's all about Vietnam is it 50 thousand dead Americans names carved into a black granite wall. Thousands more maimed or damaged by drugs for the rest of their lives. Replaying Vietnam in the desert, at what cost will you neo- cons be satisfied.

  • Posted By: Redboy56 @ 01/12/2009 2:28:53 PM

    I dont know the exact number of Americans killed in Iraq, but I do know that another president in another useless war killed 600,000 Americans, and left this country premanently divided. So who is the worst president in history?

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/12/2009 2:32:18 PM

      The guy was a Poser. He should not even be considered a president by history...

  • Posted By: joe42067 @ 01/12/2009 10:55:51 AM

    I like much of the entire planet wishes he was murdered today.

    • Posted By: Burlap Mudflap @ 01/12/2009 2:22:21 PM

      Careful Joe, that means Pres Cheney.
      btw...do your self a favor and don't ever mention murder again, this a public posting site anybody can see what you wrote, ANYBODY get it !!!

  • Posted By: RMax304823 @ 01/12/2009 2:06:13 PM

    Bush's failure as a president is due to a combination of traits involving his character. He thinks in categorical terms -- black/white, right/wrong, victory/defeat -- with nothing in between, and no possibility of compromise. He's shown this repeatedly. (eg., "You're either with us or with the terrorists.") John Wayne would have approved. It's consistent with the culture he frew up in, West Texas, but it's a lazy way of thinking that his father never indulged in. Categorical thinking also led Bush II to divide people into friends and enemies. He expected loyalty upward and extended loyalty downward. Dissidents like Colin Powell were fired; self-sacrificing liars like Scooter Libby had their sentences commuted. Unfortunately for all of us, including Bush, the loyalists he collected to advise him reflected the views of the Project for a New American Century. (If you're not familiar with the PNAC, look it up in Wikipedia.) It was his character that took him down the wrong road.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/12/2009 2:15:51 PM

      Couldn't put in any clearer than that! THX...

  • Posted By: ademeyer @ 01/12/2009 12:09:54 PM

    It does seem odd we committed troops and millions and millions of dollars on an invasion that did not seem to directly relate to keeping America safe, considering Saddam was the sworn enemy of Iran, the enemy of Shiite Muslims, and inspectors repeatedly said he did not have WMD. I don't see how a President can be called a success if he leads a country into a war whose causes cannot be explained to any but the most loyal Republicans.

    • Posted By: Burlap Mudflap @ 01/12/2009 2:07:51 PM

      Read the neo-con manifesto, the Iraq war was supposed to be the easy first step. Check Grover Norquest's writings for a clue.

  • Posted By: Zebedatious @ 01/12/2009 12:07:00 PM

    If you're in disagreement with this story, you seriously haven't been paying attention. It really isn't a question anymore that this administration failed, and failed miserably. It may merit debate in your minds, but for 99% of the rest of us who have been debating for years feel it is inconsequential to, or unworthy of serious further argument.

    If you're of the type that says "Well, you can't blame it all on Bush", I agree, but I wholeheartedly blame the top down one track unilaterism he himself created and drove; essentially the Bush administration, the Bush tenure itself essentially sucked. Regardless of how much beer you want to drink with him personally (can't stomach the thought myself), he was and will remain a failure.

    We were all privy to the same information over the last 8 years. That you choose to ignore the impact of this president's decisions on the current state of the union is completely up to you. I'm tired of paying taxes to fund initiatives that categorically make no sense, from abstinence, to creationism, to the Iraq war, to artificially inflated academic scores, to deregulation of energy speculation that led to the Enron glut, to the lowest number of protected animals in our ecosystem since the list was created. Look, be blind if you want; the rest have seen the light (albeit long overdue). And think of this, if you're defending your legacy while you're still in office, how is it that you didn't honestly really stink up the place? Feed him to the dogs.

    • Posted By: Burlap Mudflap @ 01/12/2009 2:05:09 PM

      This is what happens to power without balance. Balances the Bushies side stepped in disregard to the constitution.

    • Posted By: YashBudini @ 01/12/2009 1:29:15 PM

      You used a lot of words to say "A fish rots from the head down."

      • Posted By: Burlap Mudflap @ 01/12/2009 2:00:55 PM

        This fish rotted with every cabinet post, but a special skink came out of the VP's office.

    • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 01/12/2009 12:32:23 PM

      The disagreement for some of us in the 1% blind group you speak of is based on ignoring the failures of the Bush Administration, but is in the all-to-predictable "pile-on" for all the woes of world; which, doing so, only sets us up for further failure and slamming of the next President. If one slams Bush with an approval rating of below 20%, then where are the critics of the Congress, whose ratings are well below Bush? Where's the contempt and journalistic psychobabble for the ridiculous decision-making and ACTUAL LAW MAKING of Congress from which we now suffer? I too join in the being sick of paying for crap I disagree with category.

      • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/12/2009 1:53:33 PM

        Ya, the congress should have had some backbone and stood up for this counttry. They let that incompetent fool push them around, so that makes them losers too....

      • Posted By: pgr8837 @ 01/12/2009 1:50:35 PM

        Actually, your wrong about the approval ratings of congress. If you ask the people if they approve of congress they well may have a low opinion; however, if you ask how their particular congress person is doing they usually give an "A" grade. So, basically each individual congressman is excellent, but the "congress" sucks.

      • Posted By: Zebedatious @ 01/12/2009 12:37:06 PM

        Oh, I whole heartedly agree that the Congress bears a great deal of responsibility but two things : 1) They were politically strong armed by the White House, or put another way, they wimped out of their responsibility to "check" the president and 2) Bush didn't exercise the veto, but why would he, they were his policies.

    • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 01/12/2009 12:32:39 PM

      The disagreement for some of us in the 1% blind group you speak of is based on ignoring the failures of the Bush Administration, but is in the all-to-predictable "pile-on" for all the woes of world; which, doing so, only sets us up for further failure and slamming of the next President. If one slams Bush with an approval rating of below 20%, then where are the critics of the Congress, whose ratings are well below Bush? Where's the contempt and journalistic psychobabble for the ridiculous decision-making and ACTUAL LAW MAKING of Congress from which we now suffer? I too join in the being sick of paying for crap I disagree with category.

  • Posted By: toofyhead2 @ 01/12/2009 11:11:06 AM

    Yes I believe that the Bush admin deserves criticism for the financial mess. The crisis, and McCain's unwillingness to distance himself from Bush regarding the financial meltdown and the proposed bailout gave Obama his margin of victory. However, Bush is to be commended for sticking out the war. Iraq has a much better chance of remaining a real democracy which is something the left does not value very much.

    • Posted By: YashBudini @ 01/12/2009 2:00:37 PM

      "However, Bush is to be commended for sticking out the war. "

      Maybe if he had sent his own kids in he would have thought different. Of course that requires thinking.

  • Posted By: msnbcusername @ 01/12/2009 1:46:56 PM

    I would be interested to know if you have read Russ Baker's Family of Secrets. It appears to shed startling light on both Bush and Bob Woodward.

  • Posted By: muskegon @ 01/12/2009 1:28:58 PM

    Let's see - Obama isn't even president yet and he is witholding information from member of his own party. Case in point, Obama didn't even contact Diane Feinstein about the appointment of Leon Panetta as head of the CIA.

    Maybe Jacob Weisberg should write an op/ed piece about how deceptive Mr. Obama has been. Of course we know that won't happen because the Messiah can do no wrong.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/12/2009 1:46:39 PM

      I am laughing at you, not with you...

    • Posted By: YashBudini @ 01/12/2009 1:44:14 PM

      At least he wasn't hiding in the undisclosed location when he made that decision.

  • Posted By: Burlap Mudflap @ 01/12/2009 1:32:11 PM

    Bush still don't get it, eight years of mismanagement will not look better in the future. The neo-cons will try spinning dung into gold that is a trick even Rumpilskilskin can't do.
    .

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 01/12/2009 1:45:59 PM

      Or Rumsfeldskilskin

  • Posted By: msnbcusername @ 01/12/2009 1:45:34 PM

    I would be curious to know if you have read Russ Baker's Family of Secrets. It appears to shed startling light on both Bush and Bob Woodward.

  • Posted By: YashBudini @ 01/12/2009 1:42:41 PM

    Hopefully the greatest good that will come out of the W years will be keeping Jeb out of the White House. The last thing this country will ever need is to be Bush-whacked again.

  • Posted By: margaretvs @ 01/12/2009 11:54:18 AM

    Bush's first mistake was buying his degree from Yale, and always talking like a country bumpkin. His 2nd midake was leaving Texas. And the mistake that America made was electing him as President.

    Margaret

  • Posted By: pgr8837 @ 01/12/2009 1:39:57 PM

    Hey muskegon,

    What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? The president is not obligated to inform senator Feinstein about his choice for CIA. If she feels left out that's too bad. I don't think you can compare that with lying to the whole world about WMD. Bush's mistakes cost thousands of American lives. Ronald Reagan once said that the single worst thing a president could ever do was to send American forces to fight in a war of choice that we didn't have to fight. This makes G.W. Bush the worst president in American history. What a shame.

  • Posted By: boneclinkz @ 01/12/2009 1:04:04 PM

    I'm secretly hoping that Obama has been playing us all along and becomes the first Global Islamic Caliphate. If the United States moved to become a conservative muslim nation and stopped sending aid to Israel I think we could dramatically reduce the threat of terrorism. Being a man, I think I could adjust pretty easily to an Islamic theocracy.

    • Posted By: YashBudini @ 01/12/2009 1:23:46 PM

      Right, no terrorism in Saudi Arabia.

  • Posted By: bluesgutter @ 01/12/2009 1:17:47 PM

    An Enigma is a mystery. President Bush is no mystery. He is the Moron-In-Chief.

  • Posted By: Samlennon @ 01/12/2009 1:02:14 PM

    Dear VIDAHO,

    Speak ENGLISH. You're illiterate. Go back to school.

  • Posted By: hank2 @ 01/12/2009 12:42:38 PM

    As a son of the American revolution, and a descendent of a few native Americans who were here "legitimately," I submit that this "Vidaho" is a classic ignorant "conservative." I've never been "simulated," or an "imagrent," but I am aware that the last time "the invaders (came)" they were our European ancestors. (They never really assimilated well with the local population, but Europeans can be a bit ethnocentric.) Frankly, the last eight years of disasterous, ignorant, foolish Republicanism have made me defiantly proud of my "left wing point of view." The rightists betrayed the fundamental principles of this nation the first time they faced a bit of stress. It is time to kick their sorry asses out of the way, and return this nation to constitutiional governance.

  • Posted By: dArKeR @ 01/12/2009 12:10:32 PM

    Weisberg please just say it, Bush is an uneducated fool who was used by the Royalists to rob the working class. Along the way they murdered a million men, women, and children in a tangle of lies which the American Corporate Media is an accessory to (racketeering and murder.) I often wonder that God must be creating a special section in Hell just for the media personnel.

  • Posted By: joe42067 @ 01/12/2009 12:05:32 PM

    toofy, we'll agree to disagree and leave it at that. i appreciate your candor and from what you write it sounds like you have more sense that most liberal hating conservatives. america is NOT a horrible place, i just believe that we need to mind our business in international affairs, with the exceptions of genocide and famine.
    with much respect, good day to you and yours toofy. boy, how about them entertaining as all heck philadelphia eagles ?
    no, i live in texas, not PA. good day.

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