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The Responsibility Era

Obama's address was a prose speech for a time of rough renewal

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  • Posted By: felix335 @ 01/21/2009 11:53:07 PM

    "The Responsibility Era"????? Does that mean that all the able bodied adults who are making a living off of the various welfare schemes will now be forced to take responsibility for their lives?? Does it also mean that the millions of greedy seniors out there who refused to heed the warnings that it would be very hard to live off of Social Security/Medicare and didn't save and invest will suddenly stop robbing their children and grandchildren? I would hope so, but given past Democrat-Socialist-Utopias, I fear that the Obama team will continue to reward apathy, laziness, and deceit and instead continue to spend money to win the votes of the "proles". Ayn Rand, where are you and John Galt when we need you the most?

    • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 02/02/2009 2:42:28 AM


      JFK put it best, not that it is not known to every first year economics student.

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9505E2D6163BF93BA2575AC0A962948260

      From the NY Times Published: September 18, 1984 : Rationale for Kennedy's Tax Cut

      In a speech before the Economic Club of New York on Dec. 14, 1962, President Kennedy said:

      ''Our true choice is not between tax reduction, on the one hand, and the avoidance of large Federal deficits on the other. It is increasingly clear that, no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenue to balance the budget - just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits. In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low - and the soundest way to raise revenues in the long run is to cut rates now.''

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 02/01/2009 2:46:02 PM



    You mean the Democrats are going to start investigating themselves and taking responsibility for what they did? Below is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time Republicans attempted with S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    See also:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related (See Obama interview, about 2/3 of the way through)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1322297

    For an interesting article purporting to detail the House Financial Services Committee Chairs long history with Fannie Mae, See http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx

    "House Financial Services Committee Chair promoted GSEs while former 'spouse' was Fannie Mae executive."

    The Democrats failed policies started this desaster. Even Bill Clinton says so.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfGWxqsKFmY

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 01/24/2009 11:04:09 AM

    CATHOLIC CHURCH TO PLACATE HOLOCAUST CRITICS ----------- BISHOP DENIES JEWS WERE GASED.

    CATHOLIC CHURCH --------- IDIOT PEDOPHILES IN VATICAN.

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 01/24/2009 11:01:33 AM

    AUTHOR DAVID SIROTA " THE UPRISING ".

    TELLS IT LIKE IT IS !

    CONGRESS ----------- "THIEVES" STEALING FROM THE TAXPAYERS.

    LARGEST THEFT IN ALL OF HISTORY.

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 01/24/2009 10:58:28 AM

    TIM GEITHNER " I FAILED TO CORRECT MISTAKE AND REPEATED IT ."

    REALLY ! THINK !

    THIS IS NOT A CONFIDENCE BUILDER; ANOTHER OBAMA MISTAKE.

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 01/24/2009 10:53:36 AM

    ERA OF RESPONSIBILITY ???

    WE WILL SEE !

    HOLLYWOOD ---- LAND OF LIBERAL JEWS PROMOTING GAY RIGHTS ?

    U.S.CONGRESS --- GANG OF THIEVES STEALING TAX DOLLARS FROM THE VAULT AND MAKING RICH PEOPLE RICHER ?

    OBAMA ADMINISTRATION FILLING THE GOVERNMENT WITH BAD GUYS ( TOM DASCHLE, HILLARY ROTTEN CLINTON, TIM GEITHNER, RAHM EMANUEL, ERIC HOLDER, ETC.

    BIG BUSINESS GETTING TAX BAILOUTS TO BUY OTHER FLOUNDERING COMPANIES --- TO BIG TO FAIL CONCEPT.
    PLEASE ! SIR, MORE TAX PAYER MONEY.

    YUP ! WHAT AN ERA OF CORRUPT GOVERNMENT ---------IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GREED.

    HOW MANY TRILLIONS DOES IT TAKE TO RUIN OUR COUNTRY ------- WATCH AND LEARN.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 01/24/2009 10:52:48 AM

    Barack Hussein Obama has lobbyists such as Lynn in the CIA as Deputy Chief in his Administration. Like I've always said, Obama is a fake , a liar , a hypocrit and an amateur. Also, his crazy "stimilus" package for the economy will not work. Obama said McCain and Bush are "out of touch" during his campaign...well I believe its the other way around that Barack Hussein Obama. And closing Guantanamo...another huge mistake...the USA is less safe...Al Qaeda will not fear the US because Obama made the war on terror not a priority. Sept 11, 2001 is already forgotten in the minds of Obama and his far-left wing of nut jobs.

    Ronald Reagan... " GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM , GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM ".

    History has proven Ronald Reagan was right. Ronald Reagan was instrumental in ending the 'cold war" and the fall of the Berlin Wall, he sent F-16's into Libya to neutralize the terrorist Ghadafi , the President of Libya. No one heard a peep of Ghadafi again. Barack Hussein Obama is a whimp and a loser and he will drag down the USA.

  • Posted By: Jacplanter @ 01/20/2009 11:51:00 PM

    There is a problem with definitions here Ecumenical means "pertaining to the whole CHristan church." Maybe the writer meant that Warren should not have said Jesus in order to strike a concilitaory tone with other religions. The problem is, If this is a news piece, then the writer should not have added the line "He should't have" into the piece. That is editoralizing not reporting. This is the worst kind of article it is an editoral that is passed off as news.

    • Posted By: jarcher1 @ 01/24/2009 8:58:41 AM

      A little late in the day to reply, but I see this refrain around here over and over. The columnists here are editorializing, that's what columns are all about. Its been that way in the print world for 200 years now at least. Do you really believe that George Will's column is straight news? Don't confuse columnists with straight news, they are offering their commentary on the news. Sometime they present aspects of the news that aren't carried on the news oriented part of the site, and debating whether they got the facts right they are offering commentary on is fair, but the primary purpose of a columnist is to give their prospective of what the news means. If you don't like their perspective, then read somebody else.

    • Posted By: allen in oregon @ 01/20/2009 11:55:29 PM

      On this note, I wonder what religion would be so offended by the use of Jesus' name? The Christians believe in Him, The Muslims believe in Him, as do the Jews - albeit slightly differently than we do. It seems that the only ones that would TRUELY be offended would be the atheists who chose to believe in nothing but themselves.

      • Posted By: Popper213 @ 01/21/2009 12:20:42 AM

        As an atheist, I am not at all offended by the mention of Christ in public or Nativity scenes etc. etc. Please do not do yourself the disservice of believing that all atheists are annoying.

        Also, it's not as though I "choose" to be an atheist. I am familiar with the miracles claimed by all of the major religions and I honestly find them to be unbelievable. There is no "choice" involved. Refrain from pretending that we atheists are all jerks that secretly know the "truth" but just insist on being difficult.

      • Posted By: Popper213 @ 01/21/2009 12:16:57 AM

        Just a quick note...as an atheist myself:
        - I'm not at all offended by folks mentioning Christ's name. Folks who are offended by that and Nativity scenes, etc. aren't offended because they are atheists...they are offended because they are annoying. Please make an honest effort to realize that "atheist" and "annoying" can often overlap, but not always.
        - As an atheist, please attempt to understand that I don't "choose" to believe in anything. I am an atheist because I have reviewed all of the major religions (and some of the minor ones) and I HONESTLY find their claims of miracles to be unbelievable. It's not as though I or other atheists secretly believe and we're just being jerks, we honestly don't believe in what religous folks do. I could claim that I believe Christ was resurrected or that Moses parted the Red Sea, but I would be lying. I'd just assume not lie.

        Respectfully yours,
        Me

  • Posted By: Morgan2008 @ 01/24/2009 3:40:54 AM

    If you don't believe Geithner made an innocent mistake when he did not pay the $34,000 taxes over a 4 year period, call or write your U.S. Senators in your state and tell them that you don't approve of Geithner for the Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. Ask your senators not to confirm him for that position. I don't think we want to knowingly start out with a Secretary of the Treasury who appears to be dishonest. I called the senators in my state today and left that message for them. Folks, it is my country and your country. Obama and all the rest of them work for us. If you get involved and let them know you are watching what they do, they will pay attention if they get enough letters or phone calls. Remember, members of congress come up for re-election in two years. They will listen to their constituents when there are enough voices. Let's keep involved and not let another administration ruin our country with appointees of questionable character.

  • Posted By: 1Blackcitizen! @ 01/23/2009 8:13:55 PM

    This election brought joy to half the nation, fear and loathing to the 51+ million that voted, not for John McCain, but AGAINST Obama. This administration, along with a mindlessly, out of control Congress will prove those emotional positions appropriate. Dissent is a healthy aspect of America. That is why the innumerable bumper stickers during the Bush Administration stating, "he's not my president." Now the liberal media(an oxymoron) expects that Obama be accepted by all. Give him a chance. Be ecumenical. The constant question being asked is, "don't you want him to succeed?" The answer is a resounding, "of course I don't want him to succeed." Obama's success stands for everything that is NOT GOOD for America. From handpicking what reporters questions will be answered, to choosing a tax cheat to run the IRS(accountability?).The same guy(Geithner) who created the tarp program. Where exactly did that first 350 million go and what has it accomplished? Will Obama fully disclose this information, in his "transparent" administration? Whadda ya think? Of course, Geithner' is too smart and his expertise too necessary to bother about any wrong-doing. WOW! "Mr. Bi-partison's answer to more discussion on tax cuts was classic. He said, "that discussion is over, I won." But, "Mr. reach across the aisle" suddenly developed alligator arms. I could go on about the "lobbyist" appointment but the pattern of hypocrisy is set. Rick Warren, the EVANGELICAL preacher invokes the name Jesus and the atheists(MSM) cringe. From an evangelical preacher you get Jesus, from a muslim Imam you get Allah, from a Buddhist you get Buddha. The only name that causes the MSM discomfort is the name Jesus. That's because they know He really is............

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 01/22/2009 9:37:10 AM

    Obama makes a tax cheat (Geithner) Secretary Treasurer who will run the IRS and nominates Holder as Attorney General , a guy who freed terrorists and alllowed a pardon for a thief like Marc Rich...aggh...this is "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" ....Barack Hussein Obama as I always said....he's a fake and an amateur...I wish I can have a chance to
    debate " Reverend Obama"...I'll take him to school.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/21/2009 8:18:10 AM

    If Obama and his Administration Fail, America Fails...

    So all You Obama Haters & Race Haters, keep that in Mind, with all Your, Hateful, Hate Filled, Hate Mongering.

    If Obama and his Administration Fail, America Fails.

    All Obama has to do is keep the American People Realistic and Sober on the current Economic Dilema and stay as Open, Honest, as he's been, he'll be well Received by this Nation and it's People.

    Obama did not Create or Make this Economic Down Turn.

    Yet it is Obama and his Administration, who must Answer the Bell and turn things around.

    It was Greedy American Corporations, who Packaged and Gift Wrapped this Economic Crisis, Not President Obama.

    It was also Greedy & Tight Wad Corporate America, Closing Factories in America and sending those Jobs to ....

    The Largest Communist-Socialist Country on the Planet [China] and Corporate America didn't give Closing those American Factories nor the American People working for them, a 2nd Glance or Chance. Corporate America does not give a Damn about the Average American and it shows too, via the Multiple Layoffs and Downsizing of Personnel, just to keep the Billion dollar Profits Up.

    Corporate America also gave No Thought what so ever about Shipping American Jobs to the Great Upper North and I'm not talking about [Sarah Palin's Frozen Tundra Alaska] I'm talking about [Canada] and then they ship the other American Jobs to the Low Lands of [Mexico]


    Obama has to now Create 3-4 Million Jobs opposed to the 2 Million he had proposed after the Election.

    What is Corporate America doing to Help the Economy and it's People ?

    Not a God Damn Thing and that's not Obama's Fault, it's Corporate America's Fault.

    Greedy Wall Street and it's Out of Control Hench Men called investor's, did all the rest.

    You Obama Haters, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Praeger, Glenn Beck and Bill O'reily had better HOPE Obama and his Administration, does not FAIL...

    Because if he does, We All FAIL and America will be Kissing More A!! with Communist-Socialist China, as well as Canada, Mexico, India and Brazil.

    Note: South Korea, is one of the Most Hateful Countries towards America and we Sell their Products here an that has got to Stop, especially their buying their Damn Autos, like KIA & Hyundai. Yet America's products are not Accepted in S.Korea...

    To Hell with that Country and it's People.

    Go Ahead, You [Un-Patriotic, Race Hating Low Lifes]

    We [America] will Fail, if Obama and his Administration ... Fails

    Now Remember that...

    You Obama Hating and Race Hating Low Lifes !!!

    • Posted By: reismc1 @ 01/22/2009 7:55:58 AM

      Just exactly where did you go to school? (if you did) Corporate America caused this? That nakes no sense at all...none. Corporate America, unlike any governement, is out to make a profit. They will only embark on a project if they feel they will make money, After, paying all of their bills, inclunding their employees. The reason companies moved off shore arebecause of three major road blocks. One, the second highest corporate tax rates in the WORLD, environmental regulations, and unions. Look at Ireland, they lowerd the corporate tax rate anf the contry is boomimg.
      The President does not create a single job, nor should he. This is a country based on free market principles. The more the government gets involved, the worse it gets. The main reson for this down turn was the CRA, community reinvestment act, started by Carter. This forced(yes, FORCED) banks to start loaning money to people that most likely could not afford the payments, all in an effort to increase poor and minority home ownership. Clinton expanded the program and made it a rule that 50% of bad mortages was the target. They then made FM and FM buy those mortages. THis was government REGULATION that caused the crisis. The government has NO business in the arena of social engineering....it does not work, and it removes the checks and balances of the market. Conveniently, the government, and uninfirmed people like you, blame the market.
      While wrong, and uninformed, you started out your argument with details and substance, then you threw out the "obligatory" racisim charge. I do not like Obama, I think he is too inexperienced, has never led anything, has never had a real job, and is TOO far left, he has already appointed 4 people that should never be confirmed, his tenurein Chicago is maked with devious doings, he has surrounded himself with questionable characters, and he has no idea what so ever, about the economy, and quite frankly, he scares me. He, in my opinion, IS a socialist, and I do not like, nor believe in socialism. It has NEVER worked. So, lets keep to ideas, not accusations.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 01/21/2009 8:37:42 AM

      Hey Goober...how's your camel??? Keep hope alive...cause...."IT"S NOT OBAMA'S FAULT".....

      Allah Akbar Goob....

      NOBAMA!!!!

      • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 01/21/2009 8:44:14 AM

        "NOBAMA!!!!"

        It's a little late for that, Holy Roller.

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 01/21/2009 8:50:26 AM

          Never too late...and at least we can all agree..."IT'S NOT OBAMA'S FAULT".....gosh that is a reassuring thought...

          Allah Akbar Y'all...

          NOBAMA!!!!

          • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 01/21/2009 1:49:15 PM

            What's not his fault, HolyRoller? What, exactly, are you talking about?

          • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 01/21/2009 11:04:35 AM

            ITS NOT HIS FAULT....yet....give it a few hours, or days or even a week before you discredit the man.

            and here, in REALITY, its not obamas fault (yet). hes been president for 1 day.

          • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/21/2009 9:08:49 AM

            Obama is Your President...

            Michelle Obama is Your 1st Lady...

            Obama's Children and Mother In Law are the 1st Family...

            Obama Won Over 360 Electoral Votes and over 60 Million Popular Votes...

            In a Majority [White-Caucasian Society]

            He Beat McCain-Palin's A!!

            At least McCain Accepted the facts, Unlike Your Lost In November 4Th...

            Obama is the Un-Holy Rollers Ground Hog Day...

            I'm Loving it

          • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/21/2009 9:02:49 AM

            You've been Drinking George W. Bushes Yellow Lemonade for 8 Years and would have gladly Drank the Yellow Lemonade of John [Semi-Senile] McCain and his Alaskan Hill Billy Lass [Sarah Palin] had they Won...

            But Reality is something Your Racist A!! has yet to Accept...

            Keep Drinking that Yellow Lemonade, if that Brings Your Loser A!! Solace and Peace of Mind...

            You are a JOKE and will Continue to be a JOKE to this Board.
            --------------------------

            Obama WON CLEARLY AND CONCISELY

            Over 350 Electoral Votes

            Over 60 Million Popular Votes

            McCain-Palin did not make it to 200 Electoral Votes....

            In a Majority White Society, McCain-Palin got the Sobering Shock of a Lifetime and as McCain Conceded & Confessed, that November 4th Night, that Obama will be My President and he's YOURS too !!!

            In the Name of Jesus...

            Accept that Sobering Fact

            You Dumb Red Neck !!



            Mccain Palin...What a JOKE and the Biggest Joke of all, is that YOU Voted for them !!

        • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/21/2009 9:23:16 AM

          The Un-Holy Roller is living in a Time Capsule Far, Far Away and he'll remain in that Capsule...

          Its the only way his Dis-Oriented A!! can get through the Next 4Years.

          That is Until Obama is Re-Elected in 2012...


          It will be the Un-Holy Rollers Ground Hog Day All Over Again.

          No Bama is his President...

          Reality

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 01/21/2009 11:00:25 AM

        he won, get over it.

        and while your at it, crawl back into your cave please. you never have, never will, and most likely are totally and utterly incapable of adding constructive comments or thoughts to any discussion.

        i dont think you understand yourself, your religion, your thoughts, or the world around you sufficiently to add valuable input here or anywhere.

        your a plague upon this site and always have been. you give christianity a bad name almost constantly, your hypocritical nonsense is sickening, and your blatant disregard for legitimate english structure doesnt make any of it any better.

        NOHOLYROLLER!

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 01/21/2009 8:58:35 AM

        McCain-Palin Lossed in a Majority [White-Caucasian Society]

        Electoral Votes: 360

        Popular Votes: Over 60 Million

        Praise The Lord [Jesus]

        Hahahaha !!!

        Jesus did not give McCain-Palin favor on November 4th Huh

        Hahahaha !!

        ---------------------------------
        Its a Sad Day for YOU and those LIKE YOU...

        Because Obama is not [White-Caucasian]

        Get use to it and Get Over it.

        Why didn't You Shine a Big Spot Light on George W. Bush Jr. who sent Americans off to War, under False Pretenses to Iraq .

        It should have been a Very Sad Day for You when over 4.000 USA Troops were Killed in Iraq and Thousands of USA Troops were Permanently Injured or had their Legs and Arms Blown Off in iraq !!

        It should have been a Very Sad Day, for You, when the American Government Borrows almost a Trillion Dollars with interest from still...

        Very [Socialist-Communist China] !!!

        It should have a Very Sad Day, for You, when almost 1 Million Iraq Citizens have been Killed under False Pretenses [Weapons Of Mass Destruction]

        It should have been a Very Sad Day for You, when American's were paying Over 5.50 per Gallon of Gas, in the Summer of 08.

        It should have been a Sad Day for You, when Over 4 Million Americans Lost their Homes, all under the the Past Bush Administration and still Counting.

        It should have been A Very Sad Day when Wall Street Tanked Out this past Summer 08 and when Bush Bailed out all the BANKS and not the American People.

        Just Admit it....

        Its a Sad Day for White Racist America, like You, to See a Man of Color as Your President and he is Your President.

        Live with it, You lived with George W. Bush Jr and his Incompetent Administration, for 8 Years, as well as Bushes Out of Control Spending, Out Of Control Wall Street and Out of Control, Roller Coaster Ride Economy and Bush-Cheney, Borrowing Billions from Communist-Socialist China, with Interest.

        Oh Happy Day !!!!

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 01/21/2009 11:01:38 AM

      I agree. If he fails so do we.
      Sadly, it's not just big business, but individual attitudes and perception also.

  • Posted By: Hheeaatt @ 01/22/2009 3:19:43 AM

    Think about this as we begin to embark on Investing in America.....if we as a Ctry can spend 10, that is 10 TRILLION DOLLARS ON WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION EVERY YEAR........isn't 750 billion dollars chump change to invest in ourselves? Why would we as a family chose to support violence and the tools to create violence more than we would choose to invest in ourselves?

    Think about this.....for 8 years we have been trained to not think, but we have woken up......Why not shift the War budget to the human budget? and not just our Ctry, but ALL CTRYS?

    Something to ponder

    BUZZARDSKORNER

  • Posted By: Hheeaatt @ 01/22/2009 3:12:43 AM

    Also something else to think about as we embark on Investing in America.....if, we are able to sustain a ten, PPL GET THIS.....A TEN,10, TRILLION, NOT BILLION, BUT TRILLION DOLLAR WAR FUND, DON'T YOU THINK WE CAN SUSTAIN 750 BILLION MEASLY DOLLARS FOR THE GOOD OF OURSELVES?......just think on that a minute....for 8 years we have been told not to think....but contemplate that!!

    BUZZARDSKORNER

  • Posted By: Hheeaatt @ 01/22/2009 3:04:14 AM

    What is happening now, is so much bigger than President Obama...He is the vehicle through which this energy is coming through, but it is no coincidence that this JOY is felt around the world....We, Humans are waking up, and we now have a Leader to say This is the way we go, I will lead by example, follow me.....Remind you of anyone?

    Although this time, WE as a people have AWOKEN, WE HEAR, AND DEEP, DEEP, DEEP, INSIDE OF US, WE KNOW, WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS THE WAY TO GO!!

    BUZZARDSKORNER

  • Posted By: damitajo1 @ 01/22/2009 1:09:23 AM

    sorry, here's that link again http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/01/hold-them-accountable-too-many.html

  • Posted By: damitajo1 @ 01/22/2009 12:08:35 AM

    Obama is ushering in the zombie era. If we thought that people around Bush were uncritical, then Obama has topped that. Not only will his staff be uncritical, but neither will the media, democrats or progressives. This is frightening. All of the oooooh, Obama articles from the media are frightening to me. And my parents drank from segregated fountains, marched for the right to vote, went to segregated schools, etc. But I hardly felt "sheer joy" yesterday. Alter - when will you (and everyone else) start doing real analysis of Obama, rather than just writing effusively about how wonderful he is? Everytime I read an article about him, I have to wipe saliva from my computer.

    PS: Perhaps Democrats should turn their microscope and "anti-neocon" rage inward: <a href="http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/01/hold-them-accountable-too-many.html">Hold Them Accountable Too: Many Democrats Supported Policies of the "Worst President" (Part I)</a>

  • Posted By: Republican Realist @ 01/20/2009 10:01:29 PM

    They call it Socialism my fellow Americans. Get ready for the Change, cause that's all your going to have after theses Liberal Demo's get ahold of this County, is change in your pocket. Just Face it ,Government has never worked and there is no easy solution to fix this mess that was created by Greed. So Good Luck everyone! Canada anyone?

    • Posted By: Kahsahndra @ 01/20/2009 10:12:24 PM

      Republican Realist - now there's an oxymoron if evert there was - You have no clue what "socialism" is-unless you mean taking our tax dollars and sending $1.2TRILLION of them with no strings attached to sundry banks and financial institutions as bush the former did in the last several months. I'm certain those tax dollars will be well uesed-to buy other banks, gild more parachutes and of course enrich the coffers of the RNA-Now THAT'S "socialism". If on the other hand you give the tax dollars BACK to the working people of the country through the paychecks they earn rebuilding the infrastructure that you neocons have allowed to deterioriate for the last 30 years, if you mean taking tax dollars and hiring 100,000 more constibles on patrol like we had for 8 years before AWOL george stole the election, if you mean the tax dollars that go to making sure our food and water safe to eat and drink, sorry, that's NOT socialism-find another scare word. Your failed policies, foriegn and domestic have been justifiably consigned to the dustbin of history just like the earlier brand of Nazism.

      • Posted By: Republican Realist @ 01/20/2009 10:42:44 PM

        Your a confused Demo, as usual blame Bush, but Reality Check here we come. Oh & by the way the demo were right along side the Republican's when the decision was made to bail out this Wall st. Mess, as well as the War in Iraq, so forth & so on. MY POINT, IS IF WE DO NOT DROP THE IDEA OF TAXING THE HARD WORKING, JOB CREATING AMERICANS, ( I AM AN EMPLOYER) THEN WHY AM I WORKING MY ASS OFF TO LOSE EVEN MORE DOLLARS TO A DEMOCRATE RULE IDIOT- OLOGY! SOCIALISM I WILL PUT IT INTO TERMS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. ROBINHOOD!

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 01/21/2009 5:15:19 PM

          Didn't see you bitching about a trillion or so for a worthless war.

          • Posted By: Republican Realist @ 01/21/2009 10:09:27 PM

            Doc Howl? .......Obviously your not a real Doc. just a brainless wonder! Go get back in that welfare line were to belong. With your attitute that 'where were your headed anyways and grab a few of your fellow Democrates with you. No work, just a hand out. Hey Maybe you can get the GOVERNMENT TO WIPE YOU ASS FOR YOU TOO!

        • Posted By: Kahsahndra @ 01/20/2009 10:59:14 PM

          Like I said - you have NO idea what "socialism" is - and what on earth do you think giving 80% of the +$200BILLION annual tax cut to folks making, on average, over $4MILLION/YR did to help your business? I kinda doubt those folks "shop in your store". Ameriica is the ONLY industrialized country where guys like you are stuck with the choice of giving your employees some sort of health care and making a profit. the only reason we can all afford auto insurance is that about 50 years ago our grandparents were sharp enough to see that if EVERYBODY had to be covered, then EVERYBODY could afford to be covered, which is exactly what the rest of the world figured out about healt insurance. the sad fact is that IF we applied the social security tax to ALL income, we would have enough to provide full coverage for the entire country, no problem. i guess you're to busy making a living to spend time in the IRS data base to find out just how incredibly much the top 1% in this country is making (and NOTpaying FICA on a dime of it). Just to save you the time of doing the research (i got paid to do it) here's a thought: Ameerican cars have to recover something like $3000 each to cover the cost of health insurance for the autoworkers and retirees - but Mercediee, toyota, etc do NOT have to pay that bill - so which company is better off)

      • Posted By: archmsu @ 01/20/2009 10:46:06 PM

        Who was it that pressuring Bush w/ the bail-outs? Democrats - so banks could start lending to fat-greedy Americans who can't live within their means get more money for their ATV's, Motor-homes, Escalades, gold chains, etc (gutter trash). By the why, if don't make over 100,000 dollars a year.....You pay nothing in taxes and people like me really support you! Try paying a 320,000 dollars in federal income tax and then get back to me about how you feel about the government taking your money to pay for lazy Americans.

        PS. If you actually studied your history, you would know that the Nazis were fascists. Plus how dare you compare Nazism to Republicans. Do you have any class? But then again, they don't teach you that in the ghetto....they just teach you to be a burden on society.

        • Posted By: Kahsahndra @ 01/21/2009 12:19:28 AM

          You are one sick puppy - less than 100K and i pay no tax? Here's a reality check for ya - it makes no difference what you PAY in taxes, its how much you have left AFTER you pay the taxes. Abd I have studied history, not just listened to Rush - the Nazi's opposed all labor unions, provided a regressive tax system that put the burden on the middle class and labeled anyone who spoke against them a commie - yeah, just like the Republicaqns.

        • Posted By: Republican Realist @ 01/20/2009 11:10:14 PM

          Right on! I couldn't of said it better. thanks!

      • Posted By: USAgirl55 @ 01/20/2009 11:45:37 PM

        Seems I remember the Democrats wanting it very badly, very badly and begging for those who opposed to vote on it. The American people let them know they didn't want the bailouts, but remember everyone told Bush it was the right thing to do. Sometimes we should listen to the people and not eggheads.

        • Posted By: Kahsahndra @ 01/21/2009 12:10:09 AM

          Guess again neocon dupe - the Dems wanted to help the middle class by getting credit flowing again - Itt was bush and only bush that ignored all the provisions for accountability and just shoveled the money to his owners on Wall St. Now the republidupes oppose spending money on infrastructure (that means roads you drive on, schools your kids attend, water treatment plants at the other end of your tap, etc etc) with the work being done by middle class citizens who will use the money to pay off their debts, buy clothes and food for their families, get a new TV - instead of the loyal bushies who make so much any increase will just go for T-bills, the interest payments to be made by your grandkids until they too are grandpas. for Republidupes, "socialism" is anything that provides a benefit to the middle class,

    • Posted By: bellabelle @ 01/20/2009 11:58:02 PM

      OK...so socialism is not your thing but what would you call the situation in Alaska. They own the oil that is drilled in their state and each citizen gets money for their trouble. Perhaps you should consult a dictionary. And, by the way, why would you want to move to Canada if you're scared of socialism? You do know they have socialized medicine, right?

  • Posted By: rfindlay @ 01/20/2009 11:00:05 PM

    I wonder who Ted Kennedy reached out to during and after his seizure...an ecumenical god or Jesus the Saviour of Mankind?

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 01/21/2009 6:19:25 PM

      I hear Kennedy kept saying "Rosebud" while post-ictal.

  • Posted By: ben nevis @ 01/21/2009 5:08:04 PM

    If this is to be The Responsibility Era then Obama should should show some responsibility by admittiing he made a mistake and withdraw the name of the tax evader/dodger Tim Geithner.

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 01/21/2009 6:16:51 PM

      Hey. I'd rather a have a tax dodger (Geithner) than a draft dodger (Clinton) any day.

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