It does not take the Geneva Convention to define who is worthy of torture and who isn't. The fact that it is a human being is enough qualification that TORTURE WILL NOT BE USED!
Many Americans have set on their Ass while this nefarious actiivities of our government have gone on, but the time is coming where these very practices will be used against us as citizens since now all enemies are redefined and all that's needed is the Commander and Chief to say that it's OK. Thats the PATRIOT ACT II.
All criminals of any level are entitled to justice not torture just as we as citizens do not want to be tortured it is the responsibility of us as citizens to speak up and not let Mr. Obama or Mr. Holder forgive these very evil people so that we may not have a repeat of the SS and Gestapo in Hitler's Germany during WWII.
Viewing the WACO Documentary obviously reveals the extoridinary lengths the FBI went to in murdering the people of this SECT and whitewashed by the media. It is only when you watch the film one realizes what an extroridinary murder it was. This has become a habit with OUR Government and MUST be addressed by the American People because these politicians with their deals don't have the stomach to confront it and rhetoric isn't justice no matter how polished, Mr. Obama not withstanding.
Mr. Kididlehopper
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Human-rights activists, GOP senators and U.S. intelligence officials have been preoccupied for weeks over what actions Holder might take to address controversial conduct by the Bush administration. The anxiety among some U.S. intelligence officers was ratcheted up considerably two weeks ago when Holder, in his confirmation hearing, flatly told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he viewed "waterboarding" as "torture."
Senior Bush White House officials and conservative lawyers at the Justice Department approved the CIA's use of waterboarding against three "high value" Al Qaeda suspects. All told, the CIA used various "enhanced" interrogation techniques against 33 detainees, according to an interview Vice President Dick Cheney gave to the Washington Times shortly before he left office.
"Once Holder said that [waterboarding is torture] I got nervous," said one lawyer who represents a CIA official involved in the interrogation program, who asked not to be identified talking about a legally sensitive matter. "If he says it was torture, he has to do something."
The comment also spurred follow-up questions to Holder from GOP senators. In one such exchange, Holder was asked in writing by GOP Sen. John Kyl if he believed it would be "appropriate" to investigate a government agent "and force him to incur legal fees" if that individual relied "reasonably and in good faith on Justice Department assurances that his actions are lawful."
In a response carefully vetted by Obama's White House lawyers, Holder responded that "no one is above the law. But where it is clear that a government agent has acted in 'reasonable and good-faith reliance on Justice Department legal opinions' authoritatively permitting his conduct, I would find it difficult to justify commencing a full-blown criminal investigation, let alone a prosecution."
White House aides said that Holder went no further than that in his meeting with Bond. But that leaves open the possibility of inquiries into critical questions. Among them: precisely when and under what circumstances did abusive interrogations of detainees begin? How were the Justice Department legal opinions prepared—and what went into the decisions by senior Bush administration officials to approve waterboarding as policy in the first place?
An even more relevant matter, which could well touch on all these questions: The findings of the long-running probe by Durham, the Justice Department special counsel, into the destruction of CIA tapes showing waterboarding by senior officials in the agency's Counterterrorism Center. Indeed, Holder cited that investigation in a written exchange with GOP Sen. Jeff Sessions.
That probe is important because Durham recently asserted in a legal filing that he expected to wrap up his probe "no later than Feb. 28, 2009." His legal filing argued that the Justice Department should not be forced under the Freedom of Information Act to disclose the contents of documents relating to the interrogations because it would tip off "targets and/or potential targets" to the status of his probe. The heavily redacted filing referred to the "Moussaoui phase" of his investigation—apparently a reference to allegations by defense lawyers that either Justice Department or CIA lawyers lied to a federal judge when they asserted there were no tapes of the interrogations of potential witnesses in the case against Zacarias Moussaoui, the self-confessed Al Qaeda operative arrested in the United States shortly before the September 11 attacks. (Michael Hayden, outgoing head of the CIA, said in a statement in December 2007 that the tapes were destroyed only after it was determined that they were "not relevant to any internal, legislative or judicial inquiries." But at the time Attorney General Michael Mukasey ordered the investigation and appointed Durham as his special counsel.)
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