COVER STORY: AFGHANISTAN

Obama’s Vietnam

The analogy isn't exact. But the war in Afghanistan is starting to look disturbingly familiar.

 
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About a year ago, Charlie Rose, the nighttime talk-show host, was interviewing Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, the military adviser at the White House coordinating efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq. "We have never been beaten tactically in a fire fight in Afghanistan," Lute said. To even casual students of the Vietnam War, his statement has an eerie echo. One of the iconic exchanges of Vietnam came, some years after the war, between Col. Harry Summers, a military historian, and a counterpart in the North Vietnamese Army. As Summers recalled it, he said, "You never defeated us in the field." To which the NVA officer replied: "That may be true. It is also irrelevant."

Vietnam analogies can be tiresome. To critics, especially those on the left, all American interventions after Vietnam have been potential "quagmires." But sometimes clichés come true, and, especially lately, it seems that the war in Afghanistan is shaping up in all-too-familiar ways. The parallels are disturbing: the president, eager to show his toughness, vows to do what it takes to "win." The nation that we are supposedly rescuing is no nation at all but rather a deeply divided, semi-failed state with an incompetent, corrupt government held to be illegitimate by a large portion of its population. The enemy is well accustomed to resisting foreign invaders and can escape into convenient refuges across the border. There are constraints on America striking those sanctuaries. Meanwhile, neighboring countries may see a chance to bog America down in a costly war. Last, there is no easy way out.

True, there are important differences between Afghanistan and Vietnam. The Taliban is not as powerful or unified a foe as the Viet Cong. On the other hand, Vietnam did not pose a direct national-security threat; even believers in the "domino theory" did not expect to see the Viet Cong fighting in San Francisco. By contrast, while not Taliban themselves, terrorists who trained in Afghanistan did attack New York and Washington in 2001. Afghanistan has always been seen as the right and necessary war to fight—unlike, for many, Iraq. Conceivably, Gen. David Petraeus, the architect of the successful surge in Iraq and now, as the head of Central Command in charge of the fight in Afghanistan, could pull off another miraculous transformation.

Privately, Petraeus is said to reject comparisons with Vietnam; he distrusts "history by analogy" as an excuse not to come to grips with the intricacies of Afghanistan itself. But there is this stark similarity: in Afghanistan, as in Vietnam, we may now be facing a situation where we can win every battle and still not win the war—at least not within a time frame and at a cost that is acceptable to the American people.

A wave of reports, official and unofficial, from American and foreign (including Afghan) diplomats and soldiers, present and former, all seem to agree: the situation in Afghanistan is bad and getting worse. Some four decades ago, American presidents became accustomed to hearing gloomy reports like that from Vietnam, although the public pronouncements were usually rosier. John F. Kennedy worried to his dying day about getting stuck in a land war in Asia; LBJ was haunted by nightmares about "Uncle Ho." In the military, now as then, there are a growing number of doubters. But the default switch for senior officers in the U.S. military is "can do, sir!" and that seems to be the light blinking now. In Afghanistan, as in Vietnam, when in doubt, escalate. There are now about 30,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan. The outgoing Bush administration and the incoming Obama administration appear to agree that the number should be twice that a year or so from now.

To be sure, even 60,000 troops is a long way from the half million American soldiers sent to Vietnam at the war's peak; the 642 U.S. deaths sustained so far pale in comparison to the 58,000 lost in Vietnam. Still, consider this: that's a higher death toll than after the first nine years of U.S. involvement in Vietnam. And what is troubling is that no one in the outgoing or incoming administration has been able to say what the additional troops are for, except as a kind of tourniquet to staunch the bleeding while someone comes up with a strategy that has a chance of working. The most uncomfortable question is whether any strategy will work at this point.

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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 10/14/2009 7:42:24 PM

    No this is not Obama's Vietnam. Obama has even surprised me. He is doing an excellent job and has what it takes to achieve our objectives in Afghanistan.

    THis is 30 year war. The question how can we fight it with little presence. The answer; By training Afghan special forces. Use drones and special forces and withdraw over 85% of the military presence in Afghanistan by 2012.

    THis is a "moving war", a global war. We have to use intellignece and specilal forces in conjuction with drones and spies to track these terrorist all across the globe. The five muslim states that seperated from Russia is where these terrorists will regroup and where the war will continue. These five states Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan will then form an alliance with the Russian underworld and drop a bomb on us. We have to think ahead of the enemy. This information can change human history and prevent a catastorphe if we get our special forces into these five states Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan from now. Let's not wait for the enemy. That is how we will catch Bin Laden.

    We have to anticipate where are the 25 most probable place Bin Laden will be in or contact in the future. Start setting up shop and the prey will walk straight in unannounced and we will nab him. i think it is vital that we take Osama bin laden alive, so we can destroy this god like figure to the muslim radicals infront of them. If Osama Bin Laden dies a martyr his teaching will be followed and he will be worshipped as a God. Obama is doing an amazing job as President. Once the American people know what the objective is and when our troops are being pulled out they will support our President. Remember we fought the cold war for decades with millions of people we just did not use troops.
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  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 10/14/2009 8:27:50 AM

    there IS NO SUCH URBAN LEGEND AS USA FIGHTING AFGHANIS -IT IS USA INDIA AND ISRAEL IN A NON CONVENTIONAL WAR AGAINST PAKISTAN AND CHINA AND THEY ARE GETTING THRASHED -AND GOD IS AGAINST THESE EVIL COMBATANTS TOO-
    THEY WILL ALL GET SQUARED LIKE GERMANY DID IN 1944 -AND IT WILL BE SOON -
    SENDING TROOPS TO AFGHAN AND THAN INFILTRATING PAKISTAN AND KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS WITH TERROR BOMBS AS PSEUDO TALIBAN IS COWARDICE -AND WHEN YOU ARE TOTAL COWARDS YOU ARE ADDRESSED AS MEGALOMANIAC SCHIZOIDS-ITS DESPERATE AND IMMORAL BEHAVIOUR -
    REGARDS TO MY JEWISH FRIENDS -PEACE AND LOVE
    SHALOM
    AND THAT OBAMA IS ABOMINATION ITSELF -
    USA WILL BE TAUGHT A LESSON BY CHINA IT WILL NEVER FORGET -AND GOD IS WITH CHINA NOT THE PORN FACTORY CALLED USA -

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 10/14/2009 8:26:30 AM

    there IS NO SUCH URBAN LEGEND AS USA FIGHTING AFGHANIS -IT IS USA INDIA AND ISRAEL IN A NON CONVENTIONAL WAR AGAINST PAKISTAN AND CHINA AND THEY ARE GETTING THRASHED -AND GOD IS AGAINST THESE EVIL COMBATANTS TOO-
    THEY WILL ALL GET SQUARED LIKE GERMANY DID IN 1944 -AND IT WILL BE SOON -
    SENDING TROOPS TO AFGHAN AND THAN INFILTRATING PAKISTAN AND KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS WITH TERROR BOMBS AS PSEUDO TALIBAN IS COWARDICE -AND WHEN YOU ARE TOTAL COWARDS YOU ARE ADDRESSED AS MEGALOMANIAC SCHIZOIDS-ITS DESPERATE AND IMMORAL BEHAVIOUR -
    REGARDS TO MY JEWISH FRIENDS -PEACE AND LOVE
    SHALOM
    AND THAT OBAMA IS ABOMINATION ITSELF -
    USA WILL BE TAUGHT A LESSON BY CHINA IT WILL NEVER FORGET -AND GOD IS WITH CHINA NOT THE PORN FACTORY CALLED USA -

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