Afghanistan Is Not Vietnam

What is the exit strategy? Does anyone see a possibility of enough stability for us to leave? I do not. This is going to go on for a very long time. This really could be Obama's Viet Nam.

We can push AQ/T-ban out of A-stan. They just go into P-stan, where they operate with impunity. If we send 2 Divisions [30,000] into P-stan, well, we would be at war with them. Thats a no go. If the P-stani's refuse to move on the T-ban/AQ camps etc., airpower could be used, and thats why a new LOGISTICS route must be found. The problem IS P-stan.

Mr. Kagan, Your optimism is as misguided as your history. When you write that "Afghanistan was racked by foreign invasions for 30 years" :Try 3000 YEARS !Listen carefully, you can hear the ghost of Alexander The Great, laughing from the grave. RICH from Tampa

Pull the troops out of Iraq,burn the poppy fields in Afghanistan and tell the conservative terrorists to join the service. Instead of waving a flag and wearing a yellow ribbon.Just use drone planes not troops.If your so worried of U S getting attack MOVE. We will survive what ever happens on military level. Not on wall street level,more damage than than we think.

Meanwhile, "Sen. Dianne Feinstein's blurt during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing last week forced the U.S. intelligence and military community to acknowledge on Thursday that the U.S. is targeting Al Qaeda and Taliban operatives using unmanned drones based in Pakistan.

The acknowledgement that the Pakistanis not only are turning a blind eye to U.S. operations in their territory, but also are lending a hand by supplying a staging area could create political problems for the fragile government of President Asif Ali Zardari. The Pakistanis themselves are still officially denying the arrangement, a decision predicated on the weak federal government and extreme anti-Americanism in tribal communities, particularly the Federally Administered Tribal Area in the Northwest, where Taliban and Al Qaeda support is strongest."

Scooter Libby was convicted in a witch hunt for not remembering what day he might have talked about a third rate CIA agent who wasn???t active and was peripheral to the matter at hand. Here, we know who the leaker is, and it is on a matter critical to our operations in Afghanistan and to the stability of our ally. Dianne Feinstein should be thrown out of the Senate immediately and prosecuted for revealing classified information to the public and endangering our troops.

Lets rid ourselves of Islamic Fundamentalism completely otherwise we will never have peace in the middle east. There is no place for Islamic Fundamentalism anywhere in a civilized world. Lets not go soft. The world is at stake. We need to go to the next level and that will never happen with War Lords and preachers of hate. God Bless our American and Coalition soldiers who fight for freedom.

The Fall Of The American Empire or United States Of America. Part 4.

By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment

(1) Many people will certainly blame the fall of the American Empire on specific presidents, their administration and policies or the lack of them for such falls. Although almost all of America???s recent presidents starting with Frank Delano Roosevelt to its president-elect Barack Obama are responsible for their fall. The final decision was made by the Environment during the Harry Truman administration. The next item (2) is my explanation or revelation.

(2) Since the beginning of the United States, they have established the so called, ???Manifested Destiny.??? That is, the original thirteen states at the eastern coast of the U. S. have the ???God??? given rights to expand westward and the land west of a states will be belonged to that state and so on. This ???Manifest??? was the key, incentive and motivation for American westward expansion by migrant explorations such as the Lewis and Clark, Great Westward Migration, Homestead Migration, Oregon Trail, the building of the Pacific Railway, etc... It has also led to subsequence purchases and conquests of land such as the Louisiana Purchase, purchase of Alaska from Russia and conquest of California and other western states from Mexico.

(3) The American westward expansion went even beyond the original ???manifestation.??? Initially White Americans had massacre millions of native Indians and destroyed all the wildlife on their path. After they reach the Pacific Ocean to Alaska and California, the Americans continued on criminal invasion of Hawaii by unspeakable persecution and enforced suffering of the Hawaiian Royal family and illegal annexation of their nation. The American also invaded the Philippines and other Pacific island to impose strict colonial rules to persecute Asians. Finally, the American intention of controlling Japan had start World War II which resulted in lost of tens of million of human lives especially during the atomic bombing of Japan.

(4) The final expansion and criminal acts occurred with the illegal invasion of Korea and Vietnam which were totally uncalled for by Environment. They are quite simply the Americans finally preparation of invasion China and massacre of the Chinese people to satisfy their greed. During the Truman Administration and Korea War with China in the 1950???s, the final decision of the Fall of the American Empire had been made by the Environment. That is, the Environment has begun to retaliate against the American world aggression, and I was sent to earth to prophesy the Fall of the American Empire. Such American expansion has created irreversible Environmental damages which are unforgivable. Even today, the Americans still have the intention to invade China economically which must be stopped.

Recent War In the Middle East & Fall of The American Empire. Part 3.

By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

In fact vineyard and winery are one of the most important industry of the Roman Empire. The Roman, especially the wealthy, royal families and political leaders, one consumed large amount of alcohol. Unfortunate, most of the cooking utensils and containers of those rich people were made of metal when compare to to the poor made of wood or ceramic. Metal utensil require alloy which inclue the toxic metal lead and lead welding of metal including even silver or gold cooking utensil, table wares and food/drink containers. The toxic lead metal have a great affinity in dissolution in alchol. Not to mention the harmful effect of alcohol alone in the destruction of brains. As the wealthy and powerful Roman consume more alcohol they brain would deteriorate much faster than other people. Quite obviously when the minds of most Roman leaders had deteriated drastically the empire will certainly fall quickly. This quite evident that Roman emperor such as Nero, Hadrian and Curricula were diagnosed as insane. It is impossible for the Roman Empire with so many crazy leaders not to fall. The erruption of the Mount Vesuvius whose toxic volcanic fumes had killed off many Roman elites was also the supernatural retaliation from the Environment to punished the Roman of their atrocities against other people.

The Invention And Possession Of Nuclear Weapons which is also an Environmental problem again contribute to the fall. The United States has never won another total victory in a war after the World War II. The reason is the fear of nuclear weapons possessed by other nations. If the United States has gone too far as to attacking and invading an enemy nation supported by another nuclear power, there is a tendency their allies such as Russia, China, India, France, UK, or Pakistan will retaliated. it is because of the desireof achieving balance of power or simply out of mistrust, some of those countries will have no choice to use nuclear. Since many of those nations have nothing to lose or too big to lose by using nuclear weapons as a threat will give them an edge or advantage over the United States which have great investment in infrastructure and valuable real estates and properties to be damage in case of nuclear attack. In fact, if you have seen the movie: "Dr. Strangelove" you know any nuclear explosion anywhere in the world, the radiation will end up harming the U. S. more than any other countries. I have no doubt that it is a poetic justice or revenge of the Environment for the United States to invent nuclear weapons.


Foreigners and slaves were the key to the fall of both empires. See movies Spartacus, Gladiator & Ben Hur. According to many historians, the Fall Of The Roman Empire was the result of accepting to many foreign nationals as Roman citizens and employing too large a number of foreign slaves.

Recent War In the Middle East & Fall of The American Empire. Part 2.
By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

Comparison Between Fall Of Roman To American Empires. An Environmental Prospective. Since the war in the Middle East is related to petroleum, natural resource and Environment.

No analysis of the fall of any empire will be complete without the comparison of the fall a specific empire to the Fall of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire & the British Empire are two of the greatest empires in th history of human civilization. The Roman Empire is especially important because its influence was so far reaching in trm of language, culture, technology, philosophy and politic. The inception of the highly advance Roman Empire was almost miracles that formation of such an advance nation can be achieve so long before its time. Even today more than half of the world nations in one form or another have very close ties to ancient Roman politic & government. There is a country call Romania. The former Czar of Russian is call Romanov. The technology, literature, measurement and mathematics system we using is basically on Roman & some are called Roman numerals. One third of world population are speaking Romantic languages such as Latin, Spanish, French & other South European nations plus dialects.

Through history, there were countless top scholars trying to analysis the Roman Empire and determined the reasons for its fall. Although there were no consensus for one main reason but more than dozens of reasons were presented as the causes of the final demise of the Roman Empire. I will try to present some of them here in my thread but I should really stick to the topic of the Fall of the American Empire.

My own most important reason for the fall of both American & Roman Empire, I will present later. Now, I must present my Environmental reason for the fall of both empires since I am the Prophet of Environment & the world???s top environmental scientist.

The Environmental cause of the fall of the American Empire is because during the 20th century survival U. S. depend entirely in wasteful consumption of the world natural resource. Most of those resources are manufactured product which require industrial process that would create pollution. On the other hand, Americans are extremely fond of cleanness especially compare to Asians. They cannot tolerated any dirt or imperfection on anything. Slightly damaged, outdated or contaminated places & items especially food will be quickly closed, deposed of or remediate. This have contradicted completely of the fast paced industrial, manufacture and fast developing nature of the American society. Therefore the Environmental cause of the American Empire is unavoidable.

For the Roman, Environment problems is still the major cause of the Roman Empire. This empire was located in the Mediterranean Sea which has the ideal Environment for the production wine &a

Recent War In the Middle East & Fall of The American Empire.

by Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

All of you knew that the U. S. Presidents: (1) Bill Clinton has only one daughter, George W. Bush has two twins daughters, and (3) Obama has two daughters.

It may be a little bit chauvinistic, but It is an Asian tradition that a family should have as many sons or male members as possible to carry on the family name. Families who fail to give birth to male infants usually considered to be vry unlucky. Genetically the wives should not be the one to blame because the fathers contribute genes to the sex of the babies.

Quite obviously, Obama is not a very lucky person since his family cannot conceive male members. The same hold true for the other presidents Clinton & G. W. Bush family.

Based on this particular theory or cause alone, Bill Clinton had initiate the Fall of the American Empire by being unlucky and Bush Jr & Obama will carry on this unlucky tradition. The American voters have exercised extremely poor judgement and have been consistently electing & betting against the odds!

The Difference Between The Bristish Empire and American Empire. If you have not seen the Great Epic movie "Zulu", you should see it now. There are no more fitting movies to be seen related to our current events. I guess the major difference between the American Empire and British Empire is that:

(1) In the non-fiction movie "Zulu", less than 200 White Bristish soldiers at the end of the 19th century can had defeated more than 4000 Zulu warriors in South Africa.

(2) Today, White Americans have outnumbered Black by three to one in the United States. Those White American had surrendered to the Black without a fight. It is not for just this current election but such surrender have been coming for a long time. The sad fact is, those same White Americans have been consistently bullying almost all weak nations all through the 20th century. It is a shame? By now a lot can be said about the U. S. as the most coward nation or "empire" in history.

The conclusion is Americans are very coward about running for President. Only those without male offsprings will run for president because they are afraid that if there is going to be a war, their sons have to serve in the army. The president's family has to serve as a patriotic and bravery model for their nation to follow. Traditionally their offsprings must serve in the military. It is especially true when those presidents are commanders-in-chief & to initiate wars. Therefore only those without male offsprings will run for president so that their children don't have to serve. Both Clinton and Bush have started the Somalia, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan & Iraq wars at the expense of others with no risks to their families.

Unlike the Americans, the British are again relatively brave people. Both sons of Prince Charles have served in the British A

Afghanistan from the start should have just been a police action, directed solely at Al-Qaeda. The Taliban are just the national resistance. But, no, we had to make the entire national government our enemy. Granted, the Taliban are despicable; they deny rights to women, are lousey zookeepers, and didn't appreciate the large Buddha statues for the valuable touristic antiquities that they were. However, the Taliban are in no sense a threat to U.S. security. Right now, the U.S. has no real threats to its national security, other than the fact that the economy is in the worst mess it has been in since the 1930s.

Ok, after you bring security and safety, the Afghans want you to leave. What are you going to do?
Nobody wants occupation or being occupied, especially Afghans.

do you think the U.S invaded Afghanistan to bring security and safety and establish a representative democracy there? that is not flying anymore.

by the way, when does the U.S start building the largest and permanent military base in Afghanistan and where is the next place to be invaded by the U.S? Iran or Pakistan or some surprised Central Asian countries? please think about these. you might come with at least some thing which is worth reading it

this whole article just reeks of immorality and selfishness with no regard for human life or property or any values -just as if it was written by a pre programmed propagandist laptop rather then even a PC ,
it is flawed from beginning to the end and loopholes large enough to sink the titanic much less the sick planet itself

Afgahnistan is not the US's problem. Why not involve Europe, Russia, and China?

Todays Los Angeles Times remarks upon the ''new,same as old,thinking''.

The US intelligence apparatuses as well as the Obama administration are now convinced that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Of course,when it was Bush who sounded such alarms,it was ''neo-con hysteria''with those such as Chris Dickey and Evan Thomas of NEWSWEAK in vintage 2007 clinging to the faulty [as I predicted then in critiquing both men],
NIE of No Iran Nukes which was as slipshod as the paradoxical position in 2003 that Iraq had WMD. Wrong in 2003,and yet wrong again in 2007. Liberals scoffed at the one,and embraced the other to their error.
The IAEAs El Baradei expressed frustration with the Iranians to the point that he flatly told Frances Agence-France Presse that the deal was going down in Tehran in April of 2008 .The Iranians would have their bomb within a measure of no more than ''12,perhaps 16 months from now''. As this nation not only borders Iraq but also Afghanistan,the US would be caught in nuclear pincers between the two nuclear-activated,politically and religiously unstable nations. Obama fears this,displaying for the nonce,the velvet-glove charm offensive with which to try out on the Iranian,Syrian,Taliban,and Pak hardliners who feel that with the Bomb,will come insurance,and a means with which to throw their weight around in the region,while yet eyeing nuclear Israels intentions. In such an environment,maps will not be ''redrawn'',but eradicated under a mushroom cloud.

The Los Angeles Times Feb.13,2009:''US Now Sees Iran As Pursuing Nuclear Bomb''