A Torture Report Could Spell Big Trouble For Bush Lawyers

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  • Posted By: Naples Donny @ 02/15/2009 10:28:12 AM

    Hey Isi, next time you may want to mention that H Marshall Jarrett was appointed by Janet Reno, either the most corrupt or dumbest US Attorney General in history.. This whole issue couldn't possibly be politically motivated, could it? Once again, a thoroughly under researched or purposely deceptive piece by Isi.

    Naples Donny

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 02/15/2009 9:17:50 AM

    Hopefully the Justice Dept. will follow through on some of this and we'll see some lawsuits/court cases...Bush et. al. got away with all of this for WAY too long.

  • Posted By: artisticart @ 02/15/2009 8:37:42 AM

    The Corporate Government does what it chooses. When VP Cheny was told that the American people, perhaps up to 70%, disagreed with what the government was doing he said, "So?"
    Try them in a court of law with an honest Judge.
    Maybe there is no way out of this.

  • Posted By: artisticart @ 02/15/2009 8:32:48 AM

    The Corporate Government has absolute authority to do whatever it chooses. What do "people" have to do with it?

  • Posted By: bobdevo @ 02/15/2009 7:52:57 AM

    The Bush Administration has admitted ordering enhanced interrogation techniques. Susan Crawford, chosen by Bush as the convening authority for milltary commissions, says we have tortured. As for the pathetic lawyers, Yoo and Bybee, all they needed to read was the Convention Against Torture, signed by Ronald Reagan in 1988 and ratified by Congress: "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person . . . No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political in stability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.

    What part of "no exceptional circumstances . . . may be used to justify torture" did they not understand??

  • Posted By: deke4 @ 02/15/2009 7:48:29 AM

    You would think that all the ills in this world were not released by Pandora but by someone named William Jefferson Clinton. There has not been a situation of ill doing that Republicans attempt to trace back to Clinton. The Bush Regime has not accepted responsibility for anything that happened while they were in power. And Lord knows, hardly anything good happened during the Bush regime. The spouting about Democrats being big spenders is ludicrous in light of democrats having to do it to save the nation, nay the world, from the Bush military and economic mistakes. I should use the word crimes instead of mistakes.

  • Posted By: Against-Ignorance @ 02/15/2009 2:03:13 AM

    It is during times of pressure that behaving in an honorable matter is most important; and the greatest sign of ones character. These loathsome vermin who Bush used to doctor up his pseudo-arguments have spit in the faces of all true, honorable Americans both past and present. The framers of our constitution most be spinning in their graves.

  • Posted By: gobbledegook @ 02/15/2009 1:21:15 AM

    enemies foreign and domestic

  • Posted By: Bobsf_94117 @ 02/15/2009 12:47:09 AM

    So many people seem aware of the Preamble to the Constitution. It clearly says "does not apply under pressure".

  • Posted By: Amerikan @ 02/15/2009 12:30:06 AM

    Dear j.cam -- You need to start thinking for yourself. You need to separate the way you FEEL from the way the world is -- which are not (necessarily) the same.

    The problem with this "democracy" thing we've got going is that the huge (vast) majority of the population simply cannot distinguish how they FEEL about things and the way things REALLY are.

    And, one thing that tips this off is when someone (you in this case) resorts to categorizing groups instead of using reason and logic to interpret the facts ... as best as we can tell. I see it all the time; "you lefties", "you liberals" (like you just wrote), or "you socialists" (even though the people who use this term can never seem to explain to me what "socialism" is, only that they're against it!!!).

    Are you a parrot, who brainlessly repeats whatever Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity says -- a zombie with no dignity -- or are you a rational human being with dignity of your own?

    Your basic choice here is whether you are going to accept the world for the way it is, and operate on the basis of reality, or if you are going to bend the facts to fit the way you would like the world to be -- and lie to yourself.

  • Posted By: ONELEES @ 02/15/2009 12:15:42 AM

    BUSH PUT US IN A HOLE. AND HE SAETS AT HE HOME WHIT ALOT OF MONEY HE GOT FROM OIL THAT MADE THE GAS GO UP

  • Posted By: iclaudius @ 02/15/2009 12:13:45 AM

    Michael Isikoff seems okay about being a steno to Dick Cheney's lawyer. Why doesn't he see the clear disingenuosness Cheney's lawyer might have about the guilt/innocence of John Yoo? He has Isikoff focus on something other than the deep core of Cheney's utter blackness.
    Without an understanding of the sources' motivations (as well as relevant facts), single-source reporting is really only gossip. Shame on shoddy source protection policy; readers deserve better.
    The real sign that you've been spun is when you defend your message even when the facts dispute them.

  • Posted By: toosinbeymen @ 02/14/2009 11:03:02 PM

    Fisherman144 - I think you should be more specific. If you're saying 76% of US citizens support bush/cheney, you're totaly daft. bush left office with a 22% approval rating, cheney's was 13%.

    And where do you get the idea that to not support the president would undermine our political system? Get real. Our system is FOUNDED on dissent. Have you ever heard of the revolution of 1776?

  • Posted By: grahamwilliams @ 02/14/2009 10:51:46 PM

    Anyone want to take bets on Concerned Canadian being from Alberta? Texas North does tend to produce some folks with some radical opinions - usually distanced quite nicely from facts. That said, it's still heartening to see that he's allowed his opinion both here in Canada and in the US.

    The investigation into these acts should continue and those found of wrong doing should be punished. Not because they are republican or because they espouse a viewpoint but because they violated the letter and the spirit of the laws they swore to uphold. There is no more poignant definition of traitor than that.

  • Posted By: Qidisrupt @ 02/14/2009 10:31:32 PM

    Yes, Bush and the rest of the waterboarders violated international law and fully knew that other forms of interrogation are more effective. The illegal wiretapping needs to be brought into this insidious mix as well. And...just like all good cold cases that have been solved...the USA govt. should re-open the Keating 5 scandal that McCain and the other four US Senators WERE INVOLVED in...The only one out of the bunch that took the fall was Keating...this cold case needs solved so justice can finally be served. The banks and wall street also need prosecuted for the crimes they have committed against the middle-class Americans. No, coprorate America, you are NOT too big to fail and you all need to be put bars, also. Many corporations need prosecuted for the crimes against their own USA workers and how they outsourced and continue to outsource USA jobs...only to employ slave labor in other countries...prison time for them, also.

  • Posted By: dave27 @ 02/14/2009 10:23:31 PM

    This needs to be pursued if "rule of law" means anything at all.

  • Posted By: Fisherman144 @ 02/14/2009 10:20:29 PM

    No one is above the llaw. Manipulating or even disregarding the Constitutional directives and the legislation that has been forthcomig from our founding Document is a matter for the Federal Justice system...and should be pursued. The lack of enthusiastic and prompt investigation of 'all' violations of law by the previous Administration, it's directors and representatives, gives the overall conception that anyone may do anything without consideration of the rule of law. This is a totally non-political undertaking and should remain so. Violations and flaunting the law is a serious criminal and perhaps treasonous action or activity. It is strongly hoped that the 'independant' investigation and prosecution will and must go forward without any delay.

  • Posted By: dav062 @ 02/14/2009 10:00:17 PM

    We do not have a choice - if we do not take action we will never regain our position in the World.

  • Posted By: dav062 @ 02/14/2009 9:59:33 PM

    We have no choice if we hope to regain our position in the World!

  • Posted By: yplese@comcast.net @ 02/14/2009 9:46:08 PM

    If a full investigation does not happen and does not follow the law to wherever the law would take it -- no matter who is being investigated -- I will grieve for this country.

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