STARR GAZING

A-Rod’s Turn

Other Yankees have faced this moment. But Alex Rodriguez doesn't appear to have learned from them.

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  • Posted By: owlcroft @ 02/18/2009 7:03:39 PM

    Clown guns, that's what all this is about. You know: those toys that look like guns, but when the trigger is pulled fire, instead of a bullet, a litle flag saying "Bang!" Sure, Rodriguez and who knows how many others used various PEDs--but why does everyone accept, as an axoiom, that those substances really produce on-field results in baseball? Rhetorical question: they do so because they--whether fans, sports writers, politicians, or executives--have never made the least effort to check the scientific literature on the matter, preferring to let that well-known research physician George Mitchell do all their thinking for them.

    Numerous sources (notably the web site "Steroids, Other 'Drugs', and Baseball", http://steroids-and-baseball.com/) present the facts from the medical and scientific literature; it is hard to look at those facts and see PEDs as anything but a clown gun (at least in baseball). So for what, and how, and to what degree, do we attach opprobium or punish people for going around and firing off clown guns?

    • Posted By: Celtia @ 02/19/2009 8:36:35 AM

      owlcroft: What you're saying is that because steroids supposedly don't help in the game, we should overlook the sins of the players who use them. The flaw in your thinking is that what the law punishes, along with criminal acts, is intent, and A-Roid's intent was to cheat. In this case, whether the drugs he used actually helped his game is immaterial. His intent was to violate the rules of the game for his own advantage, and to lie repeatedly about it, so he is guilty of a punishable offense.

  • Posted By: Celtia @ 02/19/2009 8:31:49 AM

    This guy has yet to be honest about what he's done. He'll only tell enough to look contrite and sorry, but his chief concern is his image, not his character. I'm not even sure he has character. What makes me angriest about this whole debacle is that he accused the female SI writer of being a "stalker". Typical -- if a woman calls a man to account for his behavior, she must be either a nut or a slut. He's apologized for that, but the the damage is done. Obviously, this man's behavior -- making false accusations of stalking against a female reporter, cheating on and lying to his wife -- indicates a serious issue with women. I will never be able to think of A-Roid as anything other than a cheating misogynyst. I hope he gets harassed wherever he plays...especially by women.

  • Posted By: debrann @ 02/18/2009 11:44:17 AM

    As far as A-Rod is concerned, I would ask this reporter to do some investigating and find me one person anywhere, anytime, anyplace who has "fessed up" to doing something wrong before being outed. I, for one, found A-Rod's "performance" credible but I wouldn't go as far as "riveting" - and as I haven't had a chance to interview everybody, I wouldn't deem to speak for them. I will agree with you on being "stupid" at any age, and "it's never too late to go to college." Off hand, I can't think of any journalism schools. Good luck to you - good luck to A-Rod.

    • Posted By: sregis @ 02/18/2009 5:16:26 PM

      jose canseco didn't need to write his book...

  • Posted By: Abots22 @ 02/18/2009 11:22:12 AM

    If only Newsweek used this kind of scrutiny on Obama. Such as if the need for the stimulus was as serious as he pretended it to be, then why did it sit on his desk for 3 days while he was on vacation? If the economy was in such dire straits then why is the majority of the bill being spent AFTER 2010? His $75B plan to assist home owners will do more for the economy than the entire "stimulus"...err "recovery"....err spending bill will. Maybe he was in such a rush so that he could get the bill signed before the economy began fixing itself. This is why ALL the republicans voted against it and some dems also. Newsweek got it wrong when they said Obama is building the Clinton II administration. It's Carter II.

    • Posted By: defiantgoat @ 02/18/2009 12:56:48 PM

      Wasn't it the Republican party pushing these massive emergency "recovery" packages at the end of President Dingleberry's term last year? Now they want to cry, it costs too much.

      • Posted By: Abots22 @ 02/18/2009 2:33:20 PM

        So are you saying you agreed with Bush? I disagreed with it then and I disagree with it now. Unlike the liberal party, the republicans can actually disagree with their own party on occassion and not be called a fascist.

    • Posted By: wisdom and restraint @ 02/18/2009 12:27:02 PM

      Abots22--excellent points!

  • Posted By: Splitter1st @ 02/18/2009 1:27:49 PM

    If anyone cared about Baseballs drug use, other then a bunch of guy's not good enough to play, they would stop buying tickets and i bet Baseball would change, has it done that? Baseball fans have made there judgement checkout the ticket sales at Yankee stadium. You are a jerk who needs a job so you create stories and make them as sensational as possible (truth left behind and all). Funny thing is A-Rod will still collect how many millions and you will collect.... I guess i found your motivation petty jealousy that A-Rod has talent and drive and you have... what do you have?

    P.S. Abots, sorry buddy you lost so shut up or are you hoping America fails? I guess we are seeing the true republican patriotism.

    • Posted By: Abots22 @ 02/18/2009 2:28:04 PM

      Yes, I hope we fail as socialists. I'm sure you would prefer it if people like me just shut up, but we will keep speaking the truth. Perhaps you should open your eyes.

  • Posted By: BayonneFrank @ 02/18/2009 1:41:23 PM

    I'll repeat what I left on another board about this subject. It was MLB that lowered the mound. They agreed to the DH. They shortened the fences. They juiced the balls. They looked the other way for years with corked bats. Why? So teams could score more runs and hitters could hit MORE home runs. HR's equal higher TV ratings and more paying customers in the stands. Kind of hypocrital to punish the players at this point. MLB lost it's credibility long ago. Get a grip and move on.

  • Posted By: undrdg @ 02/18/2009 1:16:47 PM

    Honestly, the man admitted his mistake. What else do you want? Why is it important to know exactly what he took, why he took it, how many times he took it, if we already know he did it?
    Beat a dead horse much?
    You want to villify baseball players, but are unwilling to look at the big picture. MOST IF NOT ALL TOP PRO ATHLETES JUICE OR HAVE JUICED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. We will never know exactly who what or where, but it is a safe bet that to stand out from the pack you must get the edge.
    Personally, I really don't care about steroids or the effects they have on the game. We eat steroid laden food on a regular basis and say nothing to the effect that has. But because its a sport, because people get paid money, we have to scrutinize them. We do it because we are jealous that they have everything and we have nothing. We do it, because no matter what they have done, we hold them to a higher standard, simply because they can swing a bat better, or run faster or hit harder than everyone else. Oh the irony of it. WE expect them to be the best they can be, but only if they do it without cheating...yet when they perform like the superstars that they are,we will still cheer.
    So what if they juiced? Did they hurt you in your living room while you were eating your potato chips? I think not.
    Is it ethical? Who is to say. Not me. Not MLB. They live and die by the performances of their stars. Everything is peachy dory as long as they don't get caught. Now, arod, giambi, bonds, etc, are scape goats of the system that encouraged them to put up unbelievable number.
    Let me ask you this question dear reader. How long have steroids been around? Do you honestly think that players of old didn't do thing to enhance their performance.
    Hell, you can go as far back as the incas to find the roots of juicing. Incas used the coca leaf to give them more stamina while running at high altitudes.
    This is really pathetic. Do we have nothing better to do than to hate on someone that already admitted they are wrong, even though there were probably pressured, nay, encouraged to do juice in an era where it was acceptable to juice?
    Look at yourselves and think. Is arod really the demise of the game, or has the game itself been changed to encourage such behavior.

    Remember when baseball was a game? Now its a business. And that is the demise of any game.

  • Posted By: Ilovebaseball @ 02/18/2009 1:12:17 PM

    Who really cares that A-Rod or any other player took steriods... They still have to hit the baseball.

    Would you want your adolescent son or daughter taking steroids? Why don't we just start steroid use with our little leaguers? It's all about money. If you can hit the long ball then you can make big bucks.
    Face it, A-Roid and the other 103 anonymous players are all Cheaters. Alex, you screwed up. You will never be inducted into the Hall of Fame. You're living a life of lies.

  • Posted By: Splitter1st @ 02/18/2009 11:53:31 AM

    if anyone but a bunch of guy's who weren't good enough to play sports cared they would stop going to the game! Tell me when was the last time the Yanks didn't sell out a home game? Must have been in Giambi's year of outing or maybe Pettitte year. I suppose you need a job so that's why you write such dribble! find a real job and stop living through others who have talent ya jerk.

    • Posted By: jrmoore05 @ 02/18/2009 12:18:25 PM

      I could not agree more. Most of the media that reports on sports are people that were never good enough to play sports in high school. I will give ESPN some credit, they do hire athletes that have retired to help give a better perspective of the game. Who really cares that A-Rod or any other player took steriods... They still have to hit the baseball. I don't care how strong you are or many steroids you have taken, you still have to be able to hit the ball! You know is to blame the most for this not being revealed earlier is Commisoner Selig and the Owners! Don't tell me that they did not know this was going on!

    • Posted By: jrmoore05 @ 02/18/2009 12:17:50 PM

      I could not agree more. Most of the media that reports on sports are people that were never good enough to play sports in high school. I will give ESPN some credit, they do hire athletes that have retired to help give a better perspective of the game. Who really cares that A-Rod or any other player took steriods... They still have to hit the baseball. I don't care how strong you are or many steroids you have taken, you still have to be able to hit the ball! You know is to blame the most for this not being revealed earlier is Commisoner Selig and the Owners! Don't tell me that they did not know this was going on!

    • Posted By: jrmoore05 @ 02/18/2009 12:15:34 PM

      I could not agree more. Most of the media that reports on sports are people that were never good enough to play sports in high school. I will give ESPN some credit, they do hire athletes that have retired to help give a better perspective of the game. Who really cares that A-Rod or any other player took steriods... They still have to hit the baseball. I don't care how strong you are or many steroids you have taken, you still have to be able to hit the ball! You know is to blame the most for this not being revealed earlier is Commisoner Selig and the Owners! Don't tell me that they did not know this was going on!

  • Posted By: KingJorge @ 02/18/2009 12:10:28 PM

    He is a great individual player but not a New York Yankee. He says the pressure from signing a big contract made him do it. That's why he opted out to sign another big contract. He needs counceling, therapy for his sensitivity. Maybe the juice is getting to his brain. I do not think he is a great player. I don't care about individual stats. How can someone earn so much without ever winning a championship. The yankee brass got what they deserve a doped up baby Huey. Alex Rodriquez deserves all the critizism he deserves and more. I never knew how uneducated, bratty and plain stupid he is. A average delinquint with money. He as well as other Dominican players should be screened. How many great Dominican ball players we have seen in recent years who might have been on something that's easily purchased over the counter in D.R.

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