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Learning to Live With Radical Islam

We don't have to accept the stoning of criminals. But it's time to stop treating all Islamists as potential terrorists.

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  • Posted By: Images @ 08/31/2009 1:12:55 AM

    meetrahman:

    Thanks for letting me know that you discovered my password on DOMINOS! I KNEW you had my password so everything in my email was FAKE to trouble and confuse you. EVERYTHING WAS A LIE. Besides do you really think I would CARE that one yusufi had access to my private info? Who are you? And how do you affect my life? I CARE A DAMN. You NEVER had my actual emails.

    I would not hesitate for a second to blow ones head off, man, woman or child if they posed a threat to me, my family or my country.

    BRING IT ON YUSUFI.

    I did what I wanted, and enjoyed it immensely. I guess you and mirza (she was glad to hear my abuses) did too which is why you ask for more.

    @wallyintouch. You despicable hypocrite. You freaking coward!.

    :-) That is PRECISELY why you and mirza deserve each other.

    Let me answer the big question on yusufi's mind---why is RS not getting married?

    Because I am NOT muslim. Else my "adoption rights" would have transferred from dad to husband at 22. My mother's been on her own since 16 and married her best friend at 29 AFTER establishing herself as a successful government official. Naturally they don't expect me to get married to an unknown person after meeting them only 3 times, no matter how long it takes. I know how strong and independent women like us get categorized by hypocrite muslim men like you. Luckily my father is a role model, and I've known some very decent male friends.

    My life did get shattered on Oct 8th 2005 and all systems broke down thereafter. It took me a while but I have recovered and I'm happy. Whoever I marry will know the minutest detail about me---what makes me cry, why I laugh...my strengths and my weaknesses--and thats what that one word means. Accepting someone despite knowing who they are.

    I have FORGIVEN and FORGOTTEN you. Please FORGET me and GO AWAY.

  • Posted By: Nath @ 08/17/2009 4:47:04 AM

    There is a global awareness now on the need to fix the world & how to fix Islam - but darkness prevails on the best method - a solution that is simple and sure will evolve from here. Sounds far fetched & too optimistic ? Consider the peculiar case of 1 million deaths in the Iran Iraq war- this was technically not a Jihad with Kafir and hence all those dead went to HELL for no fault of theirs except that they had Saddam as "boss" - bad leadership brought ruin to followers!

    Every one agrees that nuclear attack on entire middle east from either US or Israel canoot be ruled out at all - but not many know that it appears to be very central to planners of Islamic life. As all muslims prey 5 times a day for death in jihad and seat in heaven to bump 72 goats - this is the most practical way for a benevoilent & merciful kafir like our Mr Bush to deliver a heavenly martyrdom in jihad to all muslims on equal footing.... so that at the Allah's brothel - stock of 72 goats/ martyr can be enjoyed equally by each muslim not just a few selected Talibans & Wahabbis..a case of good leadership solving every problem on earth and in heaven!!

  • Posted By: Nath @ 08/11/2009 8:18:58 AM

    Division of Pakistan is an obvious reality facing us all. The people of Baloch , long suppressed and oppressed are now saying it loud on the facebook. As far as Sindh is concerned , it was never really comfortable with Punjabi dominated Government. Al Qaueda cannot be allowed to flourish in Urban areas so the Drones will have to be deployed in Quetta , Peshawar, Islamabad and Karachi especially to protect sensitive targets under risk of the veiled women and scarf wearing children trained by Al Quaeda to be human bombs...which is a part of the 180 million terrorists who live in Pakistan.

  • Posted By: wallyintouch @ 07/18/2009 10:22:45 PM

    I am not going to "learn to live with radical islam", I am going to do whatever I can to eliminate radical islam and any moslem who even acts like he thinks that islam and sharia is destined to conquer the entire world. I can't go out hunting these wannabe world rulers, but I swear by God almighty, that if given the opportunity, I would not hesitate for a second to blow ones head off, man, woman or child if they posed a threat to me, my family or my country.

    • Posted By: Bombones @ 08/08/2009 5:18:21 PM

      @wallyintouch. You despicable hypocrite. Yes, you have the chance to go on the "Crusades" against Islam/Muslims, just join BlackWater Inc., the A-Team of terrorist organizations and tip of the spear of war against Islam. You freaking coward!.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 07/12/2009 10:21:53 AM

    How annoying to forget mentioning the most important thing, especially after winding up yusufi...
    Little mirza's birth on 16th june is no coincidence. It is yusufi's mother's birthday! what made yusufi feel disconcerted was that his nephew was born exactly 1 day after my birthday! It would appear very strange and odd had he planned the event in september 2007 itself (september 16th 2007 is when mirza joined facebook at yusufi's insistence. 3 days after I left orkut). 1 year later seemed more appropriate...so around 16th september 2008, yusufi used his ugly black penis to shoot sperm after sperm into mirza's stinky vagina. Good job!

    Wishing you "luck" as always.

    ps: Learnt mirza's intimate details (such as education etc) by chance...while using my cousin's profile. I cannot stand her name to even think of being in her list is blasphemy...it is sickening to look up photos or whatever..I was doing it pretty rarely anyways for a reason. Now not required of course. Einstein once said...definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. You will continue I know. Most people I meet end up being jealous/envious of me, though I personally never contribute to such feelings towards myself. The big stories will happen in 2012 only, thought I'd help and save you time meanwhile.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 07/11/2009 9:22:07 PM

    So I was thinking...that I should thank you once more for giving me a taste of the real world... I also could not help thinking how men and women like mirza and yourself look at the mirror everyday and feel good about life! I did think that divorced you definitely will be whether 6 months or 6 years from now. But I did not take into account the fact that this couple enjoys using each other and their life is nothing but stagecraft. Here is a woman who does not care what secret activities her husband engages in. She likes to control him externally being 'friendly' with his people and generally putting on a show for others. To hell with his inner world. She will do whatever he asks to remain married to him. The man has a child in somebody's womb and is completely at ease playing games with women online. He wants only sex from his 'wife'. She does not mind bringing a child into this world to bind him to her forever. And he is bored...his brother and acquaintances have children. He desired some 'newness' into his rather dull life. Obviously this is not uncommon, it is exactly how ordinary people live. Still though...it was a shocker for me coming in contact with your type. I may have responded (in the hope of humiliating you constantly) thinking its all a facade. I forgot that here are individuals without a conscience and hence will stoop to any level.

    I am clean. I developed a temper after realizing that you are provoking me intentionally. Hence the 3 phone calls...as I said. I definitely would not have bothered if it was unintentional which it was not and it became clear by December 2007. Now that I know the truth, even abusing you would be beneath my principles...enjoyable as it has been.

    Don't worry yusufi....your actions will not evaporate into thin air. I know you will get exactly what you deserve....
    Time...for us all to ACTUALLY chill now.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 07/03/2009 7:22:36 AM

    SOB yusufi is the desi britney...producing children out of boredom for personal recreation!

    So what does the little one think when she comes to know....

    1. That she was born not because her parents loved each other; but only for her father's uncontrolled sexual urges and her mother's vagina being an available outlet (its another matter that mirza's vagina is forever available to any man. mirza types crave only financial and social security from men. no matter how much they disrespect them).

    2. That she was named after an 'indian movie' her father watched with an ex-fling!

    What a sad and pitiable situation.

    I'm not cheating on my spouse and child...so again..another learning experience for me.

    ;-)

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 07/01/2009 5:42:06 PM

    ok i just saw the picasa pics. i've never felt this ashamed of myself....feel totally deprived of all self-respect and dignity. i cannot wish you well, you have to be the worst this world has.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 07/01/2009 5:28:34 PM

    http://twitter.com/SaniaM
    you're a nauseating slimeball. one has to go through extreme misfortune to come in your contact. i've achieved my objective of abusing you and feel glad that you keep following me inspite of all the abuses. you're a shameless, thick-skinned, SOB who loves getting demeaned by me. i'm done spitting at your face and am determined to end this dark phase of my life today itself. i pray that you get exactly what you deserve.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 07/01/2009 4:42:40 PM

    Don't care whether you are divorced, divorcee-to-be or father of some child. To me you are just a fallen man. A woman whose husband goes around tracking other women has to be the most unlucky person in the world.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 06/26/2009 7:23:13 PM

    smart move...matrimonial sites will all require you to list your "divorced" status.
    this could be an effective and safe way to engage women, and then by the way mention your failed marriage.

  • Posted By: Haute Couture @ 06/26/2009 6:41:01 PM

    Hello divorcee,
    Are you and your mother bride shopping at the isna function?

    "The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told us that people marry for several reasons, but the best among you is the one who marries for the sake of the deen, the religion of Islam."

    No sane person will dispute this statement.

    Would like to wish luck to you both AGAIN. LOL.
    This must be an easy process for you. I can read your mind. If she 'appears' to be "smart and friendly" with a college degree of your liking, you are ready to go! yes, appearance is all that matters to desperate yusufi. It'll be a nice social event for your mother also. She could hang out with the parents of the women and decide whose 'family' she likes best! One hitch though. You can view women only in your age group which means no fathers there selling off young dependent daughters to older 'established' suitors. This also means that it's tough to find out whether these 30+ women have dated men-muslim or otherwise. But on second thoughts, it's likely that a 32 year old muslim woman doctor has been very busy in her life to find time for dating. Just the kind yusufi is looking for. She does namaz 5 times so there's no way she would have sex with the non-muslim classmate. Who cares even if she did. So long as she 'appears' to be a fine muslim with good career prospects for yusufi to show-off in front of his brother and others and give the 'appearance' of being better off and superior. For "appearance" is the key theme in divorcee yusufi's life.

  • Posted By: lanaone @ 06/02/2009 10:29:12 PM

    I would believe in moderate Islamists if I were everr to see one., The problem is you don't.  We in the west learn  about Muslims from what they don't do.  After 911 and the Bali bomings, what we didn't see is thousands of Muslims all over the world jprotesting. No Muslims burning effagies of radical terrorists, none proudly flying the American flag and screaming that they killed our brothers and sisters. Nope, we saw muslim taxi-drivers with "die America" written on their cars.  Perhaps when  muslim leaderrship takes control of it's radicals and shows the world that you can be trusted to mean the oath you swore when you came to our countries we will begin to trust you.

  • Posted By: hellomichigan @ 05/24/2009 4:39:09 PM

    As the Koran is supposed to be timeless and universal, the verses in it hold true even today and are used everyday by pious PAKISTANI Muslims to justify their brutal and terrorist activities.
    In Pakistan they have twisted the view of Islam and Koran.\
    Pakistan has brought a Shame on all true Muslim in the world. This is how they misinterpret Koran.
    This is how they teach Koran in their schools.
    (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."
    the above verse the great prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step by step instructions on how to torture and kill the unbelievers if they don't follow Islam. He is clearly instructing Muslims to commit cold-blooded murder in the name of religion.
    . (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."
    The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents.
    3. (Koran 69:30-37) "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful
    This verse is in reference to the prisoners that Mohammed held for ransom after the battle of Badr. This battle occurred on March 17, 623 AD. This is the month of Ramadan???another sacred month for the Muslims! In this battle, Mohammed and his followers killed at least 70 innocent merchants from the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and slaughtered several hundred soldiers who came forward to defend them.
    4. (Koran 69:30-37) "(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat."

  • Posted By: Vanamali @ 03/28/2009 8:07:02 PM

    Has anyone tried to follow-up on the religious angle to the terrorist actions? I am not saying that the Koran says go shoot innocents, but does religions like Islam lay the groundwork for terrorist actions?

    When terrorists shoot or bomb innocents, they shout that they are doing this in the name of their God. One must understand that these are King Religions, God made in the image of a King. If a king orders his soldiers to kill women and children, then so be it. In the olden days, most kings were mostly men, so God must be a man. When men were brought before the King, they fell to their knees and shook with fear, hence "Fear of God". Easier to rule subjects when they debase themselves as sinners. The King was judge and jury, "salvation" was within his hands. A King does not share his throne; there can be only one King. Every Country???s history is littered with stories of Kings who murdered their own Kith and Kin; even children were not to be spared. In such a brutal world, loyalty was the highest virtue. Loyalists were rewarded and disloyal ones, even good people, abused, threatened and put to death. Hence a segregated heaven, where entrance is limited to followers, with non-followers cast into hell. Parsees and Bohras, the unbelievers, were hounded and had to flee to Hindu India! This is why Christian and muslim lands gave rise to just one religion each while Hindu India is a polyglot of various faiths. Doomsdayers, terrorists and cults mostly arise from these King religions who claim to be following the King's orders, hence the reason why muslim countries have so much trouble with the concept of democracy. Christian lands found democracy when they came up with the separation of religion and state.

    Let???s ask ourselves what???s the downside to a terrorist? If he is right and is following his ???God??????s orders, then heaven awaits him. If he is wrong, all he has to do is repent! The proselytizing religions use this as a great tool to recruit new followers, reducing God to a common proselytizer. Once inside the heaven, the terrorist can watch his murdered victims thrown into hell because they do not belong to his religion. When one is just a subject or soldier in the king's army, personal responsibility is abdicated.

    • Posted By: Radharani @ 03/29/2009 10:54:15 PM

      Christrians were able to separate church and state because the religion is secular in nature. Jesus is a very perspicuous IMAGE of PERSONAL sacrifice, and forgiveness, therefore embodies tolerance. The Christian trinity is similar to Hinduism's trimurti.

      • Posted By: greatgoog @ 04/30/2009 12:28:49 PM

        The holy trinity is also similar to the Mahayana Buddhist concept of the three kayas, or bodies of a buddha. The Truth Body, like the Father, is all-pervasive, all-knowing, and transcends all worldly conceptualization. The Enjoyment Body, like the Holy Spirit, dwells in a heavenly paradise and teaches tantra to the most advanced practitioners who had the pure karma to be born there. The Emanation Body, like the Son, is a manifestation in human form in order to enact the deeds of a buddha and demonstrate the path leading to enlightenment. That's why I consider Jesus to be an emanation similar to Shakyamuni Buddha, manifested to lead the jews away from their elitist, barbaric, "eye for an eye" world-view to a peaceful, compassion-oriented true religion embodying the holy Dharma.

      • Posted By: Radharani @ 03/29/2009 10:58:35 PM

        Islam and secularism are mutually exclusive. It is a military-like structure devoid of humanity.

        • Posted By: Vanamali @ 04/04/2009 11:03:25 PM

          Good post Eziekel. Couldn???t have said it better myself. Basically there are two types of religions, the western religions are King religions, God made in the image of a King. The followers push their religion promising a quick route to heaven and threatening you with hell if you don???t comply. Basically getting to heaven has nothing to do with how you lead your life, you could be a murderer, pedophile, terrorist, but as long as you are a member, repent and in you go. Once inside you can then watch your victims being sent to hell! Clearly this is a King, rewarding loyalty and punishing those who dare to be disloyal.

          Hinduism/Budhism are Parent/Teacher religions. To a parent or teacher all the kids are equal, getting to heaven depends on your character not whether you swear loyalty. All good souls are welcome in God Rama???s heaven. There is no hell as using physical punishment is not what a good teacher would do. That is where karma and rebirth come in, you are taught God???s teachings again and again in several births until you reach Moksha! A much better way than hell, imagine god torturing his children in hell, what a horrible concept! But a King would.

      • Posted By: Vanamali @ 03/31/2009 10:36:24 PM

        Sorry Radharani, but please learn more about christianity. All 3 religions are the same - they are all King religions. Please read some of christ sayings - he too says that the only way to God is thru him and no one else. Forgiveness only for those who comply, that's a King right there. Rewarding those who kneel to him and killing those who do not. In the Bible there is an instance where god orders his minions to kill everyone, even women, children and babies! Babies! why would god be threatened by a baby? But a king would! Hence a heaven for loyalists, with a big board saying, "Christians only"! Hinduism is not like that at all, God Rama's heaven is open to all good souls, even atheists! Mother Teresa even if she were christian is welcome in God Rama's heaven, whereas Mahatma Gandhi is shown the door by these religions, abusing god to push their religion.

        Just one great example: If the Buddha had been born in europe in the middle ages, he would have been tortured and killed, and there would be no Buddhism today! Parsees fled from Iran to India, if there were no India & Hinduism, there would be no Parsee religion today! In fact, the word Buddha means an enlightened person, so any enlightened person who tried to break away from the church and its teachings was killed! Giardano Bruno a scienist said that the sun was at the center of the galaxy not the earth, for which he was burned at the stake by the church!

        What do we Hindus do to the man who rejected Hinduism? Why, make him a God, of course!

        • Posted By: Eziekel @ 04/01/2009 8:56:20 AM

          I don't have to learn about Christianity from you. I went to a Catholic school for 13 years.

        • Posted By: Eziekel @ 04/01/2009 8:48:26 AM

          OHH AFY, again. Your last statement is very typically illogical. Sure--you are welcome to make anyone a God you want. Nobody I know will sue you for it. You'll still be granted entry in heaven under Hinduism like you mentioned. So, people can decide which is a better option. For anyone who cares --Hinduism does not command you to give up your uniqueness to become part of a herd. It is a way to get in touch with your own consciousness or the subconscious. Buddh is the sanskrit word for the planet Mercury which relates to mental activity.

  • Posted By: Radharani @ 04/18/2009 4:01:05 PM

    Forward-thinking is a state of mind--not known to those who are regressive in thought, and forward only in appearance. Whether a concept is forward or not, is judged based on its utility in modern times. Hinduism is closest to modern science-- impersonal, postulates cosmic evolution, inter-relation of things and events, and most importantly--does not derive sanction from anyone.

  • Posted By: Sokrati @ 04/03/2009 7:10:55 AM

    shark

    • Posted By: Vanamali @ 04/11/2009 6:33:34 PM

      Good post - to me Karma and reincarnation are far more intelligent, forward-thinking way than the backward and brutal heaven and hell concept. Ask a child what happens to a bad man, and she would say they go to a bad place and vice versa. You don't need religion to come up with a concept of heaven and hell, a monkey can do that. But it takes intelligence to come up with the concept of Karma and reincarnation. The great thing about Karma is that it forces you to take responsibility! There is no King god to forgive all yur sins and let you into heaven. If you made a mistake it is upto you to make things right. You don't have to be reborn to do it, you can do it right now in this life. Karma forces you to rethink and reexamine your life and your actions. There is no Hell, you are simply reborn and given another chance to correct your mistakes and build upon your achievements. What a great concept - no saddam husain like god running a torture chamber, torturing innocent people for their supposed misdeeds. Letting pedophiles and murderers into heaven because they belong to his religion while torturing the likes of Mahatma Gandhi and Albert Einstein! What poor values and ideas! Backward religions teach backward ideas.

    • Posted By: Sokrati @ 04/03/2009 7:25:44 AM

      x

  • Posted By: Sokrati @ 04/03/2009 7:24:02 AM

    while it is ok to differentiate betwween islamists and terrorists, it would be an mistake to think that your enemy is only terrorists. Because the actual war is between Islamization of the world and freedom. It is not only between west and middle east. It is betwween Islam and the rest of the world.

    As long as muslims think that it is their right to violate human-rights, offend non-believer in the name of God, this war will exist. We(non-believers) cannot accept this narrow-minded barbarist to expand their outdated idology and spread to my generations. Islam may have great history but idology underneath is valueless horror. You can't find any moral values in Islam. At the core of this believe system is moral corruption.

    "You have the right to rape non-believer. Non-believer are not innocent just because they don't believe in our god. And we have right to abuse, torture, exploit, and kill them. By doing so GOD will award you in heaven with angels."

    Please find any moral value in this concept. I wan't to ask Musilms, what is your ultimate destinity of your religion? To make Allah happy so that you can have sex with angels in heaven?

    I am atheist. But I can respect other religions. But not this one. And I will not accept this idology to spread to my future generation. So, this article is wrong in a sense that the war is only between the west and terrorists. No, the war is between Islam and the rest of the world. (Actually I am not afraid of terrorists, but I am worried about Islam idology itself. It is still spreading like a disease. Stop it.)

    • Posted By: Eziekel @ 04/05/2009 11:09:00 PM

      Yup, most muslims are non-believers. Who is this "God" that you refer to?

  • Posted By: Eziekel @ 04/05/2009 11:05:40 PM

    salim_aibl, sokrati, cry4islam, wileysnakeskins etc etc..

    Mindblowing analogy. Are you truly so smart afy ? I thought you could not imagine being 'selfish' and wanted to devote your life in service to the King. What attributes to this sudden change of heart?

    Your patronizing comments about Hinduism do not offend me in the least. Instead I'll create a little awareness re my religion for OTHERS who are curious. Actually its not a religion at all, just an open way of life. A lifelong EXPERIENCE and DISCOVERY that is highly spiritual, non-materialistic, deeply philosophical. Do NOT even try to understand, it is totally beyond YOUR intellect.

    Karma (action: good or bad) is a simple moral theory stating that every action has an opposite and equal reaction. If you are in a bad moral state, you incur 'debts' to be repaid, the account has to be settled at any point of time. Ethical actions lead to 'profits' ultimately.

    Reincarnation is a concept that the soul is immortal and changes form after death just like energy. Karma and reincarnation are inter-linked; the fruits of our actions can be begotten when humans take another shape. Any shape such plants, animals, or other life. This explains why children may die young, people may suffer without any fault of theirs.

    None of this can be proven scientifically so people are free to take away whatever they wish. Conformity to any specific belief is unnatural according to Sanatan Dharma/Hinduism. It hinders the spiritual progress of individuals.

  • Posted By: salim_aibl @ 04/02/2009 3:27:04 PM

    your ideas about the muslim world and political islam is very clear. If western power wish to spread the values- democracy, liberalism etc.- without any bad intention than it will be successfull. But they want to bar islamic values which also have some great things. they support undemocratic tyrun calling as friendly tyrun.

    • Posted By: Sokrati @ 04/03/2009 7:34:26 AM

      But they want to bar islamic values which also have some great things.???

      Please state one by one. I'll point one by one that you are wrong.

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