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This Is Hollywood?

In the entertainment industry, we're used to feast or famine. But this time, things are different.

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  • Posted By: WyoDan @ 03/17/2009 5:15:36 PM

    I found this article fascinating. People like 'Lloyd' (along with the radio talk shows I'd bet he never misses) don't understand that most of Hollywood isn't obnoxious execs and bleeding heart movie stars. It truely is a town filled with hard working, modest, and creative people trying to make an honest living. Hollywood is an industry as legit as anything else this country makes, and there are a lot of good people hurting in it right now.

    • Posted By: dmb12345 @ 04/07/2009 10:08:26 PM

      you buy japanese cars don't you - have no sympathy for the mid-west

  • Posted By: ploughman @ 03/17/2009 9:42:14 PM

    Another argument for universal health care not tied to employment, though the ideologues on the right will brand it "socialized medicine." Despite leaving some 49 million or so uninsured and millions more underinsured, our system is still by far the world's most expensive and literally collapsing from its cost excesses. It's only a matter of time before enough people who VOTE are priced out or thrown out, and hopefully they'll realize that they have the power through their vote to demand major reform. The U.S. will either have universal health care or will quite literally become a third-world country, with deposits demanded for any hospital admission and those who can't pay left to die in the streets. I've needed emergency care in that kind of country, and the experience was a real eye-opener.

    • Posted By: dmb12345 @ 04/07/2009 10:05:27 PM

      you are third world wit or without UHC

  • Posted By: LloydTesterman @ 03/17/2009 4:58:00 PM

    Those of you judgemental liberal "haters" crack me up. You smug elitists don't like us "hicks" messing with your precious Hollywood. This magazine is liberal propoganda and if it weren't for patriots like me calling the truth, your misinformation would create a catastrophe - wait, Obama Hussian is president, it already has. Admit that Hollyweird does not follow the Christian values of this Country and get a life.

    • Posted By: dmb12345 @ 04/07/2009 10:03:36 PM

      He is still right- cali is as artificial as the breast in the women there

    • Posted By: mharrisonmba @ 03/18/2009 1:02:35 AM

      ytou know what Lloyd, suck it.

    • Posted By: Laid-Off in Florida @ 03/17/2009 11:41:15 PM

      If YOU were following your "Christian beliefs", then you would not be judging those in trouble right now or those who are trying to help! And if you know so much, how come you cannot even spell "Hussein" ?? It sounds like you are filled with bigotry and hate - not "love thy neighbor as thyself."

    • Posted By: kevinq @ 03/17/2009 11:24:53 PM

      Thou with the serpents tougue casting stones eh? Wow I have never seen so much hate poored into a few lines of text. While I have little love of Hollywood (I don't watch TV and very few movies, I prefer a good book myself) but things are tough all over. This economy didn't happen in the last 90 or even 180 days it has been a slow decline that was excellerated by the banking failures. Those who shop at Sams and Walmart better be ready to take a good bit of the blame too... But we are a country of people with many different ideas of what works and what doesn't. The last 8 yrs of the right wing agenda only showed us how not to do it... now we all have to pay the price and face the fact that it may never be what it once was. But unless you believe God wished this on the whole world I suggest that you are not part of the solution and so are clearly part of the problem.

    • Posted By: Dogstarr @ 03/17/2009 7:01:47 PM

      I don't see how the values of the Rebulican't party are Christian values at all. They spew more hatred at the very people Christ encouraged people to help the most.

      Get a grip, Christianity has simply been infiltrated by the GOP and the only beneficiary of that has been various politicians who claim Christianity as their own and receive the votes of church members who would otherwise voter for the party that actually values families, rather than one that falsely claims to have family values.

    • Posted By: lionssmile @ 03/17/2009 6:47:11 PM

      "Haters"? You comment is the most hateful on here. If you were such a patriot I would think you would respect the election process. We did when we were forced to endure a president the we did not like.

    • Posted By: joy4567 @ 03/17/2009 6:46:06 PM

      I really love those Christians that like to call other people names and berate them for their way of life....it's so Christ like? don't you think? I hope you don't live in a Glass house.

    • Posted By: lvbartman @ 03/17/2009 5:50:59 PM

      You may be many things, but "Christian"? No way "Patriot"? Nope

  • Posted By: Joe2B @ 03/19/2009 2:07:14 PM

    This BS bickering and childish name-calling I see posted in these comments are a microcosm of what's wrong with this country. People, please realize we are ALL on the same boat here. Start acting like adults and not children! This country needs solutions not partisanship.

    • Posted By: dmb12345 @ 04/07/2009 9:56:39 PM

      We are in the same boat. Folks who do not wish to pull their weight want us all in their boat. I am sorry, my family comes first. In the end, when I die I have to feel comfortable that I did right by them. This degeneration into permiscous behaviour and drugs and gangs is not my america. You libs voted for the garbage - now YOU take care of it.

  • Posted By: load10 @ 03/18/2009 10:41:11 AM

    READING THE COMMENTS REMINDS ME THAT WE CAN NOT GIVE UP. OUR PREVIOUS GOV'T FAILED MISSERABLY, WE HAVE A CHANCE NOW, I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THESE BRIBE TAKING JERKS THAT BROUGHT US HERE. OUR NEW PRESIDENT IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR THAT WAS POLLUTED BY THE NEO-CONS, OR NEO NAZIS BEFORE HIM. YES IT IS BAD NOW BUT WILL GET BETTER IF WE ALL GET INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND BRING IT BACK

    • Posted By: dmb12345 @ 04/07/2009 9:52:33 PM

      By the way, it is usually conservative communities that tend to be more involved, liberals expect someone else to do it for them. So keep demonizing the very folks who keep this country running well.

    • Posted By: dmb12345 @ 04/07/2009 9:50:54 PM

      Hey - loud mouth - Do you know Rezko, Blago and Ryan- that is the same locale is your Messiah

    • Posted By: wakeup-america @ 03/19/2009 2:36:35 PM

      load 10

      You have to be kidding!!! You think obama leading us into a straight up socialist country is good.!!!! All with the same pay same house ect govt paid mortgages. Give me a break. Yea its tough out there, the privately owned fed reserve has screwed us and we let it happen. so when it gets tough work harder. At first I felt it bad and had self pity. I started looking at all the handouts our pres was giving. But thats not me. I worked my but off and now am doing better than ever. Its all about attitude. If you are defeated in attitude and look for someone to bailout your ass then this administration is for you. But for the rest of us who are proud to be an American we will work our asses off and take our country back......... Sooner will a camel pass through the eye of a needle than for a great man be " discovered" by an election....... Adolf Hitler

      geez lazy americans. Open you eyes and stop expecting someone else to solve our problems. Obama is just as bad or worse than bush. He has your support to totally strip our freedoms. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

      The only decent candidate we had was Ron paul, But I guess the camel had to go through the needle first.

      • Posted By: Palin who? @ 04/07/2009 3:15:09 PM

        "O'bama is the same or worse than Bush"...wow, that's an extremely intelligent insight...you must be a rocket scientist or something? People b*tch and moan about all of these supposed socialist ideals that O'bama is shoveling down the throats of the American people. For one, he is not proposing anything that makes America more socialist than it already is. We have these wild things called the police department, the fire department, public schooling.....but wait those aren't socialist things! Where in the hell do you think the money comes from? If somehow you have found a money tree that gives you a cool thousand you can pick off the branch every morning please let the rest of us in on your secret...moron.

    • Posted By: JakeSD @ 03/18/2009 7:29:23 PM

      I JUST DROPPED A LOAD IN MY PANTS AFTER READING YOUR HILARIOUS POST. A BREATH OF FRESH AIR, GET A LIFE PLEASE, STOP WORSHIPPING AT THE OBAMA ALTER.

  • Posted By: smccarthy945 @ 03/17/2009 8:52:17 PM

    You have to be kidding me? Is this a serious article? I both work a regular 9 to 5 job that I spent 5 years in college to qualify for and I put out music and videos at night. I used to work in the entertainment industry full time until I saw the writing on the wall and realized it was going to be impossible to make a decent living given globalization and technology.

    Most people who were in the music industry or film industry have diversified themselves by now realizing sitting around and working on movies or music isn't going to generate a livable income. This article sounds like it was written by someone stuck in the dark ages ignoring what is happening around them.

    I don't feel bad for you. Again, everyone who chose to stay in that business knew the risks/rewards. Maybe it's time for a career change. I have no sympathy for you because everyone else reading this article is working jobs they don't enjoy and putting in more hours than you.

    • Posted By: pandahays @ 03/18/2009 9:53:45 AM

      Amen...that is exactly how I was feeling, get out of the business if it isn't providing anymore, yet she instead chooses to write a "poor me" article. I couldn't agree more with your post. It is time for them to swallow their pride and find another means of living.

      • Posted By: smartkid @ 03/23/2009 10:28:05 PM

        Well.... I have to pipe in here. I live on the author's street and I am not in the entertainment industry- I am a teacher and I can completely relate to her article. I think the responses I am reading are rediculous. You are all playing the "aint it awful game" and the truth is who cares who has it worse...we all are in for tough times. All of the entertainment industry bashing and California bashing is irrelevant to the article. You completely missed the point. The point is we all have to make changes in our lives and right now those changes, or sacrifices are getting more and more difficult. It wasn't a politcal letter, a plea to aid the entertainment business or California, for that matter. It was simply a well written case study of a neighborhood, one that could be very much like many other neighborhoods in our country, that is being adversly affected by our nations economic crises. If you don't feel bad for her, that's fine... she wasn't looking for your pity. If anything she was writing about the pulse of our country's neighborhoods in change and instead of criticizing her, you might want to wake up and recognize that she was probably writing about you and your neighborhood too. Quit complaining and get some perspective. While your at it- grow up.

      • Posted By: smartkid @ 03/23/2009 10:27:12 PM

        Well.... I have to pipe in here. I live on the author's street and I am not in the entertainment industry- I am a teacher and I can completely relate to her article. I think the responses I am reading are rediculous. You are all playing the "aint it awful game" and the truth is who cares who has it worse...we all are in for tough times. All of the entertainment industry bashing and California bashing is irrelevant to the article. You completely missed the point. The point is we all have to make changes in our lives and right now those changes, or sacrifices are getting more and more difficult. It wasn't a politcal letter, a plea to aid the entertainment business or California, for that matter. It was simply a well written case study of a neighborhood, one that could be very much like many other neighborhoods in our country, that is being adversly affected by our nations economic crises. If you don't feel bad for her, that's fine... she wasn't looking for your pity. If anything she was writing about the pulse of our country's neighborhoods in change and instead of criticizing her, you might want to wake up and recognize that she was probably writing about you and your neighborhood too. Quit complaining and get some perspective. While your at it- grow up.

  • Posted By: ntully @ 03/19/2009 11:31:44 AM

    Well since you in the glorious state of Ca have voted this administration in you get what you deserve, higher taxes, high unemployment and nothing to get us out of it until he is gone!!!

    • Posted By: wakeup&smellthecoffee @ 03/19/2009 1:20:45 PM

      Your statement makes no sense whatsoever. All of this started years ago with Republicans and their utopian "freemarket" ideal that feed this culture of greed and excess for the few that has artificially inflated the price of just about everything so that every day people can barely afford even the basics like rent. If we are all lucky, this situation will hopefully leave us with a more realistically and down to earth cost of living and outlook.

  • Posted By: WolfgangCamOp @ 03/19/2009 11:33:08 AM

    And if you think it's bad in L.A....

    ...don't move to Seattle. After years in the industry here I am looking for work elsewhere. Permanent work elsewhere. The corporate/commercial video work that kept one alive & employed between creative gigs has literally become a non-paying "opportunity" for "future work," for which you will wait in vain. And if corporate clients whom actually expect you to work for free isn't bad enough, there are people with experience, gear, grip trucks and HD production capability who are actually working for less than $200/day just to try and make ends meet.

    As far as quality goes, while I no longer can tolerate broadcast television, I find it increasingly difficult to find new release movies on NetFlix that are rated more than 3-stars. As soon as some braniac at Sony or Fox decides to insert pop-up lower-thirds on movies in theatres I will stop watching those, as well.

    Like the banking & investment industry, deregulation, corporate control of the "free marketplace" and excessive greed and 'Death by Committee' is destroying the entertainment industry. The Internet is not really a viable answer as of yet, and the sub-penny-per-hit advertising income from websites cannot support even a small crew for indie creative work. And with the whispers of corporatized Internet in the making the last outlet for creative work may yet fall under the control of the media Big Five.

    It's hard to be positive about an industry I once loved, and it's heartbreaking to hear of lives & careers of otherwise creative people being destroyed by the failure of American capitalism.

  • Posted By: WolfgangCamOp @ 03/19/2009 11:31:32 AM

    And if you think it's bad in L.A....

    ...don't move to Seattle. After years in the industry here I am looking for work elsewhere. Permanent work elsewhere. The corporate/commercial video work that kept one alive & employed between creative gigs has literally become a non-paying "opportunity" for "future work," for which you will wait in vain. And if corporate clients whom actually expect you to work for free isn't bad enough, there are people with experience, gear, grip trucks and HD production capability who are actually working for less than $200/day just to try and make ends meet.

    As far as quality goes, while I no longer can tolerate broadcast television, I find it increasingly difficult to find new release movies on NetFlix that are rated more than 3-stars. As soon as some braniac at Sony or Fox decides to insert pop-up lower-thirds on movies in theatres I will stop watching those, as well.

    Like the banking & investment industry, deregulation, corporate control of the "free marketplace" and excessive greed and 'Death by Committee' is destroying the entertainment industry. The Internet is not really a viable answer as of yet, and the sub-penny-per-hit advertising income from websites cannot support even a small crew for indie creative work. And with the whispers of corporatized Internet in the making the last outlet for creative work may yet fall under the control of the media Big Five.

    It's hard to be positive about an industry I once loved, and it's heartbreaking to hear of lives & careers of otherwise creative people being destroyed by the failure of American capitalism.

  • Posted By: houndstooth @ 03/19/2009 10:42:21 AM

    Working in the entertainment field is a lot trickier than people think. There are misconceptions abounding about the difficulty of the work, the unpredictable and sometimes unfair nature of the business. Trust me, most of the people who are professionals want to work more than 300 hours in 6 months, but sometimes the work simply doesn't exist. In the entertainment industry everyone is essentially an entrepaneur in a day to day struggle to stay in business. Frankly I think reality TV can take a hike, its screwing up its viewers as bad as it is the industry. People are learning social behavior from substandard participants in situations guided by producers. All that belongs on another soap box however. The extremes of the movie industry are part of its failing in my opinion. I recently went to a movie for the first time in a year perhaps and was disgusted by how expensive the evening turned out to be. Is there a backlash among movie goers? With the availability of entertainment on the internet I have difficulty justifying spending 30 or 40 dollars to take my wife out to a movie. Is there a connection between the preposterous sum it requires to enjoy a night at the movies and the trouble in Hollywood?

  • Posted By: terryinminneapolis @ 03/19/2009 10:18:31 AM

    A great observation on life, today, in America. The same experience applies no matter if you're in LA, Des Moines or Jacksonville. It's not about feeling sorry for your plot in life, it's about watching a quality of life and value system fade in the wake of an economic ship you have just discovered has you booked in steerage. I closed my business in Minneapolis after 25 years, my wife lost her job, we have given up out health insurance for the first time in our working lives. Our house is in foreclosure. This is happening not to the homeless guy under the bridge. It's happening to your neighbor walking her dog past your house. Don't judge because it's about Hollywood. It's not. It's about the middle class in America. Don't judge, understand. That's all anyone can ask.

  • Posted By: tbourlon @ 03/19/2009 9:53:26 AM

    Wow, harsh comments. I guess it is too much to ask that those of us who are pretty much cutting back and are worried about the same thing to be sympathetic. I just started watching this TV show, only to read today that it has been cancelled. Sucks for them, too, but not everything will strike gold in California.

  • Posted By: mark.george @ 03/19/2009 8:27:23 AM

    I have been in the U.S. Army for 22 years and guess what, I have missed tucking my daughter in many times. But good news for you L.A. entertainment folks standing on your sad street corners sipping your wine and wondering how you can work 300 hours in 6 months (which I figure works out to about 12 hours a week) the U.S. Military has raised it's enlistment age to 42!!! If you really want to quit worrying about health insurance, visit your local recruiter today!!

  • Posted By: idonow @ 03/18/2009 10:40:33 PM

    everybody in LA works in the movie business? get a grip! feel sorry for the illegal that used to mow your lawn now you are afraid that you will have to move and your little darlings might end up in the same school his children attend? go ask alec baldwin for a loan till you get back on your feet ha! time to change careers and put in 960 hrs every 6 months to get kaiser if you are lucky, no sympathy for you in case you haven't got it by now

  • Posted By: Gato Pardo @ 03/18/2009 10:19:25 PM

    Read some good books people! This Industry used to be an Art, yes an Art, and artists were trained to excel at three things: acting, dancing and singing. Seen some of that lately? Maybe on the history channel and of course old, old movies.

  • Posted By: rho1953 @ 03/18/2009 7:43:58 PM

    Maybe if your industry wasn't an anti-America propaganda machine you could get people back in the theaters. You despise capitalism but whine about the effect of it's destruction on YOU. Grow up. You morons don't realize it but there are lots of people who are tired of being politically manipulated by the media industry. I avoid films with radical leftists like the plague. I don't have to support your left wing politics and I won't Deal with it. Get a real job.

  • Posted By: lovetoquilt @ 03/18/2009 6:48:15 PM

    I agree with Independent. TV is lousy and has been for the last several years - movies are the same. So, please don't blame it on the bad economy - unless you'd like to blame us for no longer supporting junk. Perhaps you can find work in an industry that still has high standards and won't settle for below-mediocrity so easily.

  • Posted By: Independent! @ 03/18/2009 6:24:20 PM

    Oh boowho for the entertainment crowd in L.A. No one cares about the terrible movies you put out, the violent video games you produce, the lousy music or the terrible TV shows. Hope all of you Hollywood types go BK and lose your manison(s0, jets, limos and see how the rest of us live for once.

  • Posted By: kunino @ 03/18/2009 4:37:00 PM

    I see things are grim in this and many other communities, but not grim enough yet, it seems, to try flushing defective toilets with buckets of water, or learning about patching roofs from a book at the local public luibrary, rather than one bought at Home Depot. Doubtless these and other comparable skills will come in time. Good luck to them all.

  • Posted By: vincedemattia @ 03/18/2009 3:25:55 PM

    Hello, all... it is important to know that this recession is very different say... than the one that George Herbert Walker Bush denied we were in. That recession was a result of people being unsure of the economy and simply curbing their spending... being tight with their surplus or discretionary income. But, this recession is being fueled by inflation. Today's report on food and consumer goods reports that prices are up 0.4 percent. And, they' ve been going up continually. The supermarkets are one of the main offenders. They have raised their prices when farmers, manufacturers and distributors have either not raised their prices or in some cases... lowered them. But, that has not helped bring the prices down. Raise hell with the supermarkets. Raise hell with your state legislators. With only 3, 4 or 5 major supermarkets in each market... it's easy for the supermarkets to collude. One store charges another .50 a pound for ground beef or chicken breasts... and all the others raise their prices in kind. It. It's collusion without the meetings. Raise hell folks. We can have an impact on our economy ourselves by making ourselves heard. Thanks. V

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