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The Monarch Who Declared His Own Revolution

King Abdullah, 85, is racing to reform Saudi Arabia. How much can he accomplish—and will it last?

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  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 04/18/2009 3:58:20 PM

    This happened in the 60's and was it reported in the News NO!

    From 14:03 until 14:10, the Israeli air assault unleashed hell, concentrating a coordinated strafing attack first of bombs, then of rockets, armor-piercing bullets, and napalm on the ship's communication antennas and crew. Basically these fighters exhausted all of their ordnance and ammunition on a ship they knew could not return fire before they left. (3) page 16 and (4). Israel later confirmed that multiple Mirage fighter-bombers and Dassault Mystyres swept-wing fighters were used, and this was confirmed from photographs taken by Liberty sailors. During the assault, the aircraft jammed all frequencies so the Liberty was only able to communicate during the short intervals when the Israeli rockets were in-flight, as the fighters had to switch off jamming temporarily. (1) page 36. Also during the assault, the American flag was shot away, but before the torpedo attack began, it was replaced with a larger 8x13 foot version. (3) page 19.

    Between 14:24 and 14:28, the three torpedo boats arrived in visual range and were reported as flying Israeli flags. (3) page 19 and (1) page 36.

    At 14:31, both the USS Liberty and the torpedo boats opened fire at each other. At least five (5) torpedoes were launched, and two (2) torpedoes made contact at about 14:35, and later mechanical analysis revealed one of the torpedoes hit in an area where a few meters in either direction would likely have broken the ship in half. Twenty-five (25) Americans working in the SIGINT section were killed instantly by this torpedo. Following the torpedoes, the Israeli boats raked the USS Liberty with cannon and machine-gun fire, shooting at any visible sailor above deck. At one point, the Israelis concentrated their fire on the boiler, trying to cause an explosion and sink the ship. The torpedo boats were later confirmed to be Ayah class motor torpedo boats, each carrying two (2) torpedoes, and (4) cannons. Before the ship was scrapped, there were 861 holes larger than a man's fist and thousands of 0.50 caliber machine gun holes. (3) pages 19-20, (2) pages 7-8, (1) page 37-38. Same as the fighter attack, basically the Israelis expended all of their ordnance and then just opened up with machine-guns, possibly to keep the sailors from activating a new radio line. They threw everything they had at the USS Liberty, trying to sink a defenseless vessel that they had confirmed to be American.

  • Posted By: OnlookerObserves @ 03/25/2009 3:15:27 PM

    jaggu " Why are muslim men so happy with Islam .?"

    Muslim men do not know what happiness is. They do not live...perpetually obsessed with dying. Crazy weird people. Have you seen how they perform this Sword Dance...my bad, if that is not crazy and subhuman...They are suffering from deficient brains damaged by a godly ideology of a 1400 year old man who lacked all human attributes. They copy this insanity without questioning..."what are we doing to our children"; it turns them insane. Islamic ideology damages a human being beyond repair.

    • Posted By: hussam Zahrani @ 03/30/2009 8:01:38 AM

      Did you attend any extreme metal concert? Did you witness any really metalheads moshpit ? This is what I call inhuman, weird, crazy, suicidal, sick you name it, the sword dance is just kids stuff comparing. And anyway its not an Islamic ritual its just extreme stuff done by random people, and its not very different then some Christian cults churches do actually

  • Posted By: OnlookerObserves @ 03/25/2009 3:29:16 PM

    Issay when Muslim men realize that Islam is a mental disease that not even an animal would embrace, only then will you experience knowledge of the Historic Heritage Mohammed left behind. Do some research what Saudi Arabia truly was BEFORE the war mongrel Mohammed was born. You have sold your existence to copy a mentally unstable 1400 year old diseases ridden creature suffering from god delusions. The Kabaa is a Meteorite, surrounded by man-made pillars, demented people, who never question what they do, throw stones at their imaginary devils. As one human being to another: WHY are you doing this to yourself, your family and children? Why don't you question what you your were forced to believe as a child? Why do you accept this blindly. Have you all lost your mind?

    Religion is a tool of the wicked to maintain his power: Imams impose and the Kings Reign and YOU, Mister Average Joe, riding your camel pays the price for their luxury lives.

    Just ask yourself: With all the wealth of oil why are 80% of Islamic countries utterly starving suffering from poverty and illiteracy? Put to you that the ALLAH, Moon Goddess of Babylon, Pre-Mohammedan time was far more advanced than the allah the god mohammed and his companions created. Please QUESTION WHAT you believe, Ask WHY?

    • Posted By: hussam Zahrani @ 03/30/2009 7:35:58 AM

      Dear onlookerobserver, Kaabah is not a Meteorite it???s a man made four walls empty room, there isn???t anything sacred about those walls by it self, it???s just a symbol, and all Muslims know that, Islam is a rational ideology there was, there isn???t anything magical of mythical about it, nobody is sacred, nothing is sacred, including Imams, so actually nobody benefits from you if you became a Muslim, btw how would you explain that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, how did all them converted muslims became Muslims if they weren???t forced to in their childhood as you stated, ??? With all the wealth of oil why are 80% of Islamic countries utterly starving??? actually the only oil rich countries are only the Arabian gulf countries, and they are not starving, in fact most of its citizens rides BMW???s and Mercedes which is little bit better than camels as you stated earlier, and its booming with business just google ???Dubai??? or ???Riyadh??? or ???Doha??? and see for yourself

  • Posted By: OnlookerObserves @ 03/25/2009 4:18:58 PM

    Is this article is for real? One cannot help wondering if the writer is paid to write this? Make and acceptable propaganda piece in favor of a regime that is known to oppress its citizens. Osamabinlala had/has serious issues with Saudis; 911 was an attack on the world; the US being a Friend of his enemy.
    Can Christopher Dickey dig into the serious issues Saudi Arabia has instead of polishing the incompetence of the god/Religious Clerics and MyRight/Saudis Royals who are deceiving muslims worldwide? Would it be possible for Mr DIckey to browse through the reality of Saudi Arabia, Mr William G. Ridgeway exposes the real social Issues check his website on socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000552.php.

    Desert Islam - the type of Wahhabi ideology practised in, and exported by, Saudi Arabia - has a problem with women. William G. Ridgeway explores how oil has enabled Saudi Arabia to export its anti-Western, autocratic, intolerant, and misogynistic Wahhabi ideology - and in the process transform the position of women in much of the Arab world, for the worse. During the Golden Age of the Arab cinema from the 1950s to the mid-1970s the coquettish, slightly tipsy Arab woman was a beloved figure of Arab film comedies. Then she was laughed at. Now she would be stoned to death.

    MSNBC carried an article Sun Mar 22, 2009
    RIYADH ??? A group of Saudi clerics urged the kingdom's new information minister on Sunday to ban women from appearing on TV or in newspapers and magazines, making clear that the country's hardline religious establishment is skeptical of a new push toward moderation.

    In a statement, the 35 hardline clergymen also called on Abdel Aziz Khoja, who was appointed by King Abdullah on Feb. 14, to prohibit the playing of music and music shows on television.

    A people without Humor, Music or Art is a dying nation.
    Religion is deceit and lies, a shield demented power hungry Naked Ape hides behind to justify their incompetence. The Shield of Fear they hide behind to justify their atrocities. Reality check is long overdue in Saudi Arabia and Mr Dickey polishing the ugliness is not helping.

    • Posted By: hussam Zahrani @ 03/30/2009 5:41:26 AM

      if you gonna judge a nation in the size of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia over someone opinion or statement like the religious clerks you mentioned, then I should judge the whole American nation and system for what Charles Manson stand and call for, and I think we can say and I???m rephrasing your own word to fit the American nation based on Charles Manson statements ???USA is a dying, savage and racist nation without any ethical manner, family value or even value of life. They are just a bunch of sicko serial murderers???. By the way what the Saudi religious clerks said about TV is not very special, if you looked around you will find many similar religious people saying more ridiculous stuff from inside the USA and even UK, a well known example is a really weird guy we used to see on TV he was called George W bush, btw I didn???t see any of the ???hungry Naked Apes??? you mentioned anywhere here in Saudi Arabia but I think I saw them few times on Jerry Springer???s show

  • Posted By: CGush1966 @ 03/25/2009 4:47:27 PM

    I am a very patriotic American who grew up in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. I was so pleased to see the Saudi's portrayed in a positive light in this article. Since 9.11, I have seen numerous other articles erroneously demonizing the Saudi's and have been astounded by the ignorance of the media when covering this amazing culture.
    I can say with authority and knowledge that Saudi Arabia is not our enemy, and quite the contrary; they are our friends and allies in this troubled World. Every country on this planet, including our own, has a deviant faction. We, as ???Westerners??? need to see beyond our own cultural beliefs and ideology. Its time for the American public to recognize the Saudi people for who they are, a benevolent people, who with our assistance, can truly facilitate peace in the Middle East.

    C Gush

    • Posted By: OnlookerObserves @ 03/25/2009 5:27:48 PM

      What have you been drinking? ...a benevolent people...On which planet have you been hiding out? This benevolent people enjoys "chop chop day" stoning day "burning school children day". As for truly facilitate peace, do ask the Saudis why they have not recognized Israel as a Nation while they recognized Jordan as a Nation. Put to you that the Intolerance of the Islamic culture and its racist oppressive insecurities is the root of today's messy world. The Saudis gave birth to the Terrorist Monster. Osama Bin Laden was at odds with the Saudis, as a friend we endured the wrath the Saudis ought to have received.

      • Posted By: hussam Zahrani @ 03/30/2009 4:40:31 AM

        Saying that Saudis enjoy stoning day is like saying that American enjoys the electric chair day, or the gas chamber or whatever sick punishment they execute. I don???t know anything about the burning schools you mentioned but am sure that we didn???t have anything like the columbine school thing; a student???s opens fire inside a school!!! Talk about extremist, what kind of country is this? And Saudis of course wont recognize Israel as a state until Israel recognize Palestine a state and a nation that was occupied then denied of every human right, and this was the official treaty offered by king Abdullah for the first time ever, of course the Israeli reply was the latest bombing of Gaza we have all watched

  • Posted By: Nasser20001 @ 03/27/2009 6:26:07 PM

    I would agree with you if what u call The ( Arabic Network for Human Rights Information ) was not an Iranian network >

  • Posted By: anti-wahabiya @ 03/26/2009 7:15:22 PM

    Saudi Arabia: Security Persecuting Shia Reformist
    Anti-Shia Discrimination and Aggression does not Spare Children

    Cairo 22 March 2009


    The Arabic Network for Human Rights Information stated that Saudi security forces should stop their police campaign against Shia citizens and immediately release those they have detained for participating in a demonstration in al-Taif province --especially six students, all of whom are under the age of sixteen. ANHRI further stated that Saudi security should stop persecuting Shia reformist Nimr Bakir al-Nimr for his criticism of policies of sectarian discrimination against the Shia in Saudi Arabia and for his call for reform and equality.

    Some Shia citizens have staged a sit-in in front of the headquarters of religious police commonly known as "The Promotion of Virtue and the Prohibition of Vices" after one of its members videotaped Shia women practicing religious rituals. Instead of punishing the officer for his irresponsible behavior, the Saudi police began a large-scale campaign of arrests. This campaign expanded after Sheikh Nemr criticized the Interior Minister for overlooking the rights of the Shia as Saudi citizens. The police began to track Sheikh Nemr with the purpose of detaining him, and attempting to take his children hostage.

    ANHRI stated that ???the matter is becoming farcical: the Saudi King grants a royal amnesty to detainees for the justice of their cause, while the interior minister who belongs to the same dynasty issues sectarian statements along with a campaign of arrests targeting those calling for reform and equality as if their demands for justice were a crime that requires punishment.???

    ANHRI further added: ???Why did the arrest campaign against Shia citizens of Saudi Arabia escalate only a few days after a delegation of 36 Saudi officials came back from Geneva last February after discussing the general report of the Human Rights Council????

    The Arabic Network for Human Rights Information affirmed that demanding equal citizenship rights between Shia and Sunni is a legal and just undertaking and that those making such demands must be respected and not be liable to punishment.


    http://anhri.net/en/reports/2009/pr0322.shtml

  • Posted By: anti-wahabiya @ 03/26/2009 7:12:48 PM

    he is an evil king that put children in jails and use oil money for PR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$


    Saudi Arabia: Security Persecuting Shia Reformist
    Anti-Shia Discrimination and Aggression does not Spare Children

    Cairo 22 March 2009


    The Arabic Network for Human Rights Information stated that Saudi security forces should stop their police campaign against Shia citizens and immediately release those they have detained for participating in a demonstration in al-Taif province --especially six students, all of whom are under the age of sixteen. ANHRI further stated that Saudi security should stop persecuting Shia reformist Nimr Bakir al-Nimr for his criticism of policies of sectarian discrimination against the Shia in Saudi Arabia and for his call for reform and equality.

    Some Shia citizens have staged a sit-in in front of the headquarters of religious police commonly known as "The Promotion of Virtue and the Prohibition of Vices" after one of its members videotaped Shia women practicing religious rituals. Instead of punishing the officer for his irresponsible behavior, the Saudi police began a large-scale campaign of arrests. This campaign expanded after Sheikh Nemr criticized the Interior Minister for overlooking the rights of the Shia as Saudi citizens. The police began to track Sheikh Nemr with the purpose of detaining him, and attempting to take his children hostage.

    ANHRI stated that ???the matter is becoming farcical: the Saudi King grants a royal amnesty to detainees for the justice of their cause, while the interior minister who belongs to the same dynasty issues sectarian statements along with a campaign of arrests targeting those calling for reform and equality as if their demands for justice were a crime that requires punishment.???

    ANHRI further added: ???Why did the arrest campaign against Shia citizens of Saudi Arabia escalate only a few days after a delegation of 36 Saudi officials came back from Geneva last February after discussing the general report of the Human Rights Council????

    The Arabic Network for Human Rights Information affirmed that demanding equal citizenship rights between Shia and Sunni is a legal and just undertaking and that those making such demands must be respected and not be liable to punishment.


    http://anhri.net/en/reports/2009/pr0322.shtml

  • Posted By: jamesvt @ 03/25/2009 10:42:49 PM

    The major reform that Saudi Arabia needs is freedom of religion. All other freedoms will follow it that freedom is honored and respected. Saudi Arabia invokes Islam as the truth and prosleytizes that religion with zeal, and yet, is threatened by all other religions...even to the point of criminalizing conversions from Islam made by choice. Whatever your beliefs, for ANY culture to promote a particular religion as the exclusive way to life is a culture that is doomed to oppression and stagnation. If Islam is the correct religion to follow, then its followers shouldn't feel so threatened by those who choose otherwise... even Islam's converts to other religions. Saudi Arabia will never be free until the people have the right to choose their own way to faith. Islam imposed is not truly islamic anyway. It's just a prison sentence and ignorance are the bars that hold the people in. Give the people a choice and I suffice to say, that true Islamic faith that is peaceful and pluralistic will prevail.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 03/25/2009 8:30:35 PM

    Any place where it is acceptable for a man to walk up to a strange woman on the street and start hitting her with a stick for not dressing properly is in desperate need of reform. Start soon, and hurry.

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 03/25/2009 8:15:01 PM

    Saudi Arabia needs reform, at the very least because 15 out of 19 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi...

  • Posted By: Hamid S. @ 03/25/2009 7:15:27 PM

    OnlookerObserves, your brain is too much full of useless stuff. Stop reading trash magazines/articles and stop watching FOX TV

  • Posted By: OnlookerObserves @ 03/25/2009 5:30:34 PM

    CGush,,, one more observation: We, as ???Westerners??? need to see beyond our own cultural beliefs and ideology."
    In the Islamic Culture our values are turned inside out: War is peace, Ignorance is Knowledge and Oppression is Freedom.
    You tell us, what we, as westerners are missing?

    • Posted By: CGush1966 @ 03/25/2009 6:37:20 PM

      Dear OnlookerObserves:

      By the way the ??? was a typo - they were intended to be parenthesis.

      You seem to be very opinionated and negative on Islam. One of the great things about the United States and Western Cultures in general, is the freedom to express your opinion. I can see from your various posting that you have yours. You make many disparaging remarks about their religious practices and beliefs. Wouldn???t you be offended if someone made similar remarks about your religion? Although some of your comments may be representative of certain individuals they are not categorically representative of the people as a whole.

      If you were to grow up in a different culture than you did, no doubt you might have a different perspective. To make such sweeping stereotypical comments about an entire religion and culture certainly has the inherent danger of being perceived as fact when actually it is not fact.

      To answer your question, what the ???Western Media??? has missed, and what I believe you have missed???. is tolerance; Tolerance for a perspective other than your own, Tolerance and understanding that the actions of a few, do not, and are not representative of the majority, Tolerance for religious practices other than your own (every religion on earth has had its dark moments), and most importantly, what they have missed is that the Saudi???s, as a whole, are good, kind-hearted, benevolent and tolerant World Citizens.

  • Posted By: kalsaeed @ 03/25/2009 6:13:57 PM

    I am writing in response to your article, the Monarch Who Declared His Own Revolution (March 30, 2009), by Christopher Dickey. As a Saudi citizen, I was heartened by the fact that a major newsmagazine like Newsweek concluded what many of us in the Kingdom have been experiencing in the past few years: King Abdullah???s reform process is vital, serious, and well-paced within the Saudi context.
    The imbalance in your article is quite apparent when one notices the demeaning manner in which you refer to one of this country's most accomplished men "the Interior minister Prince Naif". What is even more painful is your utter failure to mention that with the blessing and encouragement of his brother King Abdullah, he was the mastermind behind what you termed the "Aggressive efforts by the Saudi security forces "that" led to the death or capture of most Al-Qaeda leaders and operatives". Even more painful is your failure to mention that he is the man directly responsible for what former CIA chief Michael Hayden have aptly described as "the world's most effective counter radicalization programs."
    Your reference to King Abdullah's attitude toward his fellow Arab Leaders is both insensitive and imprecise. Everyone who has dealt with King Abdullah knows all too well how respectful he is even toward those with whom he differs. His belief in the "simple Arab and Islamic values" as you have correctly stated shields him from having such a negative attitude. I am afraid that King Abdullah's frank and open style is sometimes misunderstood even by people who should know better.
    We need to understand others, and listening to or quoting the spinners does not serve this quest.

  • Posted By: Jeddahkid @ 03/25/2009 3:54:50 PM

    I grew up in Saudi Arabia and found your article to be refreshing. It portrays the Saudi Arabia that I grew to love, where, despite its imiperfections, the people are decent, honest and honorable and its government working hard to bring this country into the 21st century. I was a child in 1967 when we moved there and have many fond memories of my childhood and adolescence. Good for you!

  • Posted By: Hamid S. @ 03/25/2009 3:30:49 PM

    Dear Christopher Dickey, You do not understand Islamic culture and the way people desire to run their daily affair as well as country.
    Travel to Arabia and live for at least one year among people, then, rewrite whatever Mambo Jambo you have created or dreamed. You do not sense any Middle East culture. So, your story is just some lines of meaningless fabrications

  • Posted By: OnlookerObserves @ 03/25/2009 3:19:58 PM

    issay : " saudi women are free, they are educated,.."

    Saudi Women experience: Oppression which you call Freedom.
    Saudi Women experience: Ignorance and lack of knowledge which you call Knowledge.
    Saudi Women experience: Abuse which you call Peace.

    Islam is the most retarded lifestyle Naked Apes have ever invented.

  • Posted By: okfalcon @ 03/25/2009 2:39:51 PM

    Today the NYTimes reports that a 75-year-old widow has been sentenced in Saudi Arabia to 40 lashes for meeting with her nephew and his friend, who had come to bring her bread. Then they will deport her. Outrageous. Good-hearted people the world over are outraged at this insane cruelty--and in the name of decency!

  • Posted By: issay @ 03/25/2009 2:08:10 PM

    saudi women are free, they are educated, thy have scientists you may not find very often in West, they are not force to prostitute, or work in ponography to ean some money. they are not seen on internet doing dirty things for men, or degaded by kind of fetish things. like you see on intenet

  • Posted By: issay @ 03/25/2009 2:06:00 PM

    saudi women are free, they are educated, thy have scientists you may not find very often in West, they are not force to prostitute, or work in ponography to ean some money. they are not seen on internet doing dirty things for men, or degaded by kind of fetish things. like you see on intenet

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