MY TURN

Slouching Toward Fatherhood

I thought being a dad would come easily to me. But soon after my son's birth, I was looking for a way out.

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  • Posted By: GracieM @ 06/02/2009 5:18:42 AM

    Everyone handles these life changes differently, this author spoke honestly and from his heart. It's not that he didn't want his son, it's that he wasn't prepared, and this is where we fail as a society. Being a parent is for most people the most wonderous event in their lives. Some feel it from the moment they find out the bundle of joy is on the way, others at the time of birth and for others it may not come for awhile after the birth. The bonding experience is unique to each person.
    As a society we focus so much on the wonders of parenthood that we ignore or gloss over the negatives, the struggles physical, emotional, psychological, etc. And so when a parent feels anything but wonderment we treat them like pariah's. Not remembering that all of us at least once, if we're honest became so frustrated and alone that we wondered about out ability to parent.
    With a result teen girls think having babies is all about fun and games, it's wonderful, the best thing that could ever happen. We do not give a realistic view or information about the nitty gritty realities of parenthood. There is also the problem that women tend to be hyper-critical about anything dad's do, they interfere a lot. This is a proven fact. Men parent differently and not enough has been researched on this. Mom always thinks she knows best and if dad deviates from her perception of what is right she criticizes and dad pulls back and away.

    Now I have two incredible daughters, and to be honest I never gave a thought to how their fathers felt, what they were feeling and going through those early years. It is something that has been ignored. Both were and are great fathers. My daughters are 15 yrs apart in age. Women are given more latitude in their emotions. I wouldn't of course give my girls up for the world, but parenting is the best, most wonderous experience, but it is also the most frustrating, difficult thing a person can do.

    So all of you who are telling him to grow up, grow a pair, be a man, etc. you need to be a little more honest about what you did feel, what you went through. Anytime someone gives an opinion that goes against the norm even when others secretly agree, they get scared and lash out. He never said he didn't want his children, he just wasn't fully prepared. And that's where we as a society need to change, help prospective parents understand the changes having a child will bring to your life, the negative and the positive.

  • Posted By: GracieM @ 06/02/2009 5:18:28 AM

    What a lot of negativity in this discussion. While I agree that it should not be compared to or called male/father post-partum depression, by doing so it does minimize what women go through and experience. Post partum depression is due to hormone levels and is a physical/mental/emotional/psychological state brought on by what the body has experienced.
    So, no it's not and should not be equated as the same or similar.
    That being said even women who want and are ready for parenthood can and do experience PPD to one degree or another. And anytime a person's life changes in a dramatic and life altering way there is bound to be some fall out in some form or another.

  • Posted By: D_N_A @ 05/12/2009 9:11:52 AM

    Okay, how about THIS?? I'm a PEDIATRICIAN ... surely I knew what to expect, and surely I had plenty of experience with lack of sleep during my training. But there I was after the birth of my daughter: ill-tempered, negative-minded, resentful towards her, and completely baffled at my own feelings, not to mention overwhelmed with guilt and shame. I did a pretty good job of hiding these emotions from others, but my wife really started picking up on it 2 months after our baby was born. God bless her because UNLIKE MOST PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD, she took an understanding and supportive stance, and it let me work out my "inner demons." I didn't need therapy or anything like that, so maybe my case was mild. Our baby is 4 months old now and I've done a complete 180... being a father is wonderful, and it just takes some adjusting for some new dads.

    We're all different. And based on my reading here I see some of us are very, very quick to judge. Do you people saying "GROW UP!!! / STOP BEING SELFISH!!! and "BE A MAN!!!" ever stop to think that dads like me have not already stood in front of the mirror and said these things to ourselves hundreds of times? Believe me, I was just as shocked and disgusted with myself as many of you are with the author. For those of you thinking "I'm glad you weren't MY pediatrician", etc... Well you know what? I'm a darn good one and hey... what if I AM your pediatrician? And if you're a woman, I'm really glad you weren't MY wife. Chew on that.

    My recommended solution? Sit down, discuss these feelings with an open mind, and constantly remind each other you are in this thing together. Guys, that means offering reassurance and help even when you don't want to, and ladies, that means showing your gratitude and affection even if you don't think he quite deserves it.

    It's a team effort people, not a stone-throwing contest.

  • Posted By: June1234 @ 05/11/2009 5:05:58 PM

    My husband suffered from this too. I only hope more men realize it can happen and take ownership of their health. The damage it does to marriage can leave scars that never heal.

  • Posted By: thesedays @ 04/25/2009 9:54:42 PM

    Don't bother with college fund for these kids; just save up for the therapist bills.

    Notice he didn't say anything about parenting the twins? Maybe because he was long gone by that time?

    • Posted By: joelscorp @ 04/27/2009 1:35:13 PM

      Though I'm staying off these boards for obvious reasons, let me make some clarifications:
      1) My wife and I separated when the twins were 4 and my son was 7, so I stayed through the mnost trying of times
      2) I have no regrets about having children; I overcame my depression, and today they love me and and I love them. Knowing that they are sensisitve and intelligent, if they read this one day in the future, they will appreciate my honesty of combatting my emotions.
      3) The largest takeaway: Why must Dads carry the burden of burying their emotions. Is that "healthy"?

      Joel
      www.divorceddadbookcom

      • Posted By: joelscorp @ 04/27/2009 1:38:30 PM

        One of the reasons I stay off message boards is the persistence of typos.... clearly.

        A longer version of this essay will appear in my upcoming collection "The 40-Year-Old Version": See: www.divorceddadbook.com

  • Posted By: SusanM1966 @ 04/23/2009 3:34:41 PM

    KUDOS to the author for having the courage to be honest about the substantially ugly side of parenthood that everyone likes to hide. He is bucking the trend and not towing the line of our baby/family-obsessed culture. GOOD FOR HIM! And to those who are criticizing and judging him, what I ask of you is - DOES THE TRUTH HURT? Are you afraid the truth will come out that your puppies and rainbows life is a sham? I sincerely congratulate this author for an article that really needed to be written.

    • Posted By: GILBESA @ 04/27/2009 1:22:52 PM

      Baby/family obsessed culture? What culture are you referring to? The one that idolizes celebrity, that flahes constant sexual and violent imagery on the screen (whether through commercials or programming) or the one that says if you don't have the right opinion you then must have the wrong opinion? This isn't about a baby/family obsessed culture. It's about a culture that is absolutley obsessed with being happy all the time. Things in life are HARD. Don't take on commitments if you aren't willing to be unhappy at times. My life certainly isn't puppies and rainbows just because I have a family. I wouldn't paint that picture to anyone. But I stick it out day in and day out because I made the promise to do so when I vowed to be with my husband until death do us part and when I conceived both children out of want and desire to do so. My children had no say in the matter. So, I have to be there for them and I knew that from the moment I saw the positive pregnancy test. It's scary, it's tiring and sometimes I want to cry. I do miss life pre-kids sometimes. But I made the choice to have kids, so I have to look for what I've gained every single day; instead of mourning what I've lost.

    • Posted By: robin66 @ 04/23/2009 4:29:27 PM

      I'm not sure that it did need to be written, Susan. I don't discredit that he described exactly the way he felt, but as written he still comes across as a whiny, selfish, narcissist. I hope his son never reads this. I can only imagine that he would think, "I always felt like daddy didn't want me. Now here's the truth that he didn't." There's nothing that would hurt worse. If he had been thinking about his son's well-being he would have considered that, but once again it was about me, me, me. "I'll feel better if I write an article and get this off my chest, no matter who it hurts." His kids will need therapy when he's done with his part-time fatherhood duties.

  • Posted By: bklyn57 @ 04/27/2009 12:40:43 AM

    Since the author has managed to co-opt postpartum depression as a means of validating his experience ( and in the process trivialize the problem for women face) I wonder how he's going to deal with "manopause."

  • Posted By: klasater @ 04/25/2009 12:06:58 AM

    I once wrote a brief essay for our local newspaper regarding the sacrifices that my Mom had made for me, of which I had largely ignored as a child. Even as I wrote it I was moved to tears as I attempted to journal the multitudinous efforts she gave to raise four children. Admittedly, the relationship was not so close to my Dad; who, it seemed was overwhelmed with parenthood - maybe as this article's author described. So, it was with intent that my relationship with my son was decidedly different. Each age and stage of development was greatly anticipated. Each arrived with hope of what he was growing to become. My focus was to have a relationship of nurture and culture which prepared him for individualism, accomplishment and control of his own life. When he was three we intentionally adopted the motto of "Others" to guide our actions and decisions; as silly as that might seem. That was pretty much the foundation of our interaction with all those outside of our family. Though he's nineteen now and a University student, my guess is that it still guides him. I hope the author's relationship with his son is still recoverable. I encourage him to make the effort. Get a vision in mind of what your child can become, then with excitement, shape the clay in your hand. With Father's Day coming up, perhaps there might be a way to reverse the emphasis to be on your child/children and spend the weekend doing what might generate a strong relationship. Perhaps adopt your own motto (mind you, our motto was a guiding factor, but we kept it priviate) and do some things which are focused on the privilege you have to invest in the culture through your son. I missed it with my dad. It would be a sad loss for your son to miss it with you.

  • Posted By: Klauer1995 @ 04/24/2009 10:12:30 PM

    I remember having the same feelings almost 13 years ago after my son was born. Thank God for my husband and mom because I felt like walking out and never coming back. The overwhelming guilt of having this feelings is almost unbearable. After my second child three years later, I realized that these are feelings that some have but never discuss. So I tell new parents that I had those feelings and they all say they had them too. So people don't gloss parenthood, but be upfront with new parents and say it is a hard job but the most rewarding job you will ever have.

  • Posted By: SusanM1966 @ 04/23/2009 8:09:22 PM

    Oh, that's right. It can't be all about him because it HAS to be all about the CHILDREN. That's the problem with our culture. We're simply too baby, child and family obsessed. So what if he is whining? Who can blame him? If I had his life I'd be whining too. Actually, I'd be kicking myself for not thinking more carefully about having kids.

  • Posted By: nrod @ 04/06/2009 6:21:36 PM

    I have to wonder if this kind of response to the birth of a child is based on how our our society has become more individualistic and selfish. A lot of people seem to think only of themselves. Once you have spent a decade or more on your own, thinking only of your own needs, losing your freedom is excruciating. I have a hard time feeling sympathy because for those of us who had children young, there was no choice. You jumped in and built your life around your family. You did not spend years upon years building a life based around ME. It was difficult, yes, but you just did it because it was the right thing to do.

    • Posted By: SusanM1966 @ 04/23/2009 3:39:54 PM

      No, you did it because you never stopped to think that there might be other choices. Having children is a choice, not a given, although most people go into it like mindless sheep.

  • Posted By: boofdah @ 04/20/2009 8:53:08 PM

    To MMH Master--my husband and I are both liberals, and the first words that came out of my husband's mouth when he read this article were exactly what I was feeling--"grow up!" My husband and I are both approaching 40, and have only for a little more than a year have been foster parents to two young, beautiful and very active boys whom we intend to adopt. We tried for years to have a baby, even sought fertility counselling, yet thought at the end of the day that it would be a benefit to society as a whole to adopt out of the foster system. Boy, were we in for a ride--but isn't that what all parents go through? Parenthood is a beautiful thing, but it sure ain't no picnic. All my husband I could say after reading that article was, no wonder his wife dumped him! Oy vey.

  • Posted By: Eisen @ 04/20/2009 12:18:39 PM

    Perhaps Mr. Schwartrzberg would have sunk into depression anyway. His first mistake was drawing upon advice from Dr. Fluffyhead. Paxil, friend, might have helped. And also some perspective. Long showers, movies .... all that is possible later on. They do grow BTW. I have three kids, and yes, life changes. Borrowing from the Peace Corps slogan, it's the hardest job you'll ever love. Children are a gift from God to be raised and pointed in a useful direction to make the world a better place. What an awesome, scary, and rewarding task. I'm better for it, no doubt.

  • Posted By: Eisen @ 04/20/2009 12:18:02 PM

    Perhaps Mr. Schwartrzberg would have sunk into depression anyway. His first mistake was drawing upon advice from Dr. Fluffyhead. Paxil, friend, might have helped. And also some perspective. Long showers, movies .... all that is possible later on. They do grow BTW. I have three kids, and yes, life changes. Borrowing from the Peace Corps slogan, it's the hardest job you'll ever love. Children are a gift from God to be raised and pointed in a useful direction to make the world a better place. What an awesome, scary, and rewarding task. I'm better for it, no doubt.

  • Posted By: scotth310 @ 04/19/2009 8:00:46 PM

    "Calling it depression(IS) an excuse for weak, pathetic behavior". This article sickens me. That's one of the problem with this nation, a nation of "ME". My son is 9 months old and I have never, ever felt an ounce of depression or regret that this author seemed to be overwhelmed with. I knew from the beginning that we would be seemingly overwhelmed, but we haven't been. We see our son as a blessing and are grateful for this chance.

  • Posted By: Reality Rounds @ 04/14/2009 11:10:28 AM

    Sounds like an attention seeking diagnosis if I ever saw one. Women can't even own postpartum depression now? I agree this man needs to grow a pair, and I'm not talking about breasts.
    http://realityrounds.com/2009/04/13/male-postpartum-depression/

  • Posted By: mmhmaster @ 04/13/2009 5:39:55 PM

    Love fluxion's comment.
    Straight and to the point.

  • Posted By: mmhmaster @ 04/13/2009 5:39:04 PM

    Ill bet he screams when he sees a roach

  • Posted By: mmhmaster @ 04/13/2009 5:38:16 PM

    Jeez what a female. Please grow a pair and be a man and a father.
    I am so blessed to have a father Not like Joel.
    I am now a father and can say it is the most joyous thing in my life.
    Jee I wonder if this guy is a liberal? Naw Liberal dudes are to manly for this self loathing crap.

  • Posted By: mmhmaster @ 04/13/2009 5:35:30 PM

    Jeez what a female. Please grow a pair and be a man and a father.
    I am so blessed to have a father Not like Joel.
    I am now a father and can say it is the most joyous thing in my life.
    Jee I wonder if this guy is a liberal? Naw Liberal dudes are to manly for this self loathing crap.

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