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  • Posted By: tc125231 @ 04/14/2009 2:27:02 PM

    There's an old English folks song, called the "Vicar of Bray" which was about Newt's spiritual predecessor.

    "Oh, whatsoever king may reign, still I'll be the Vicar of Bray, sir...."

    Newt has no convictions, except that all possible situations can be used to provide him with income and advantage. You have to admire him. Like the cockroach, he is far more adaptable than civilized human beings, whose behavior is circumscribed by principles and scruples.

    Still, you have to ask yourself: --why would a human being listen to the opinions of a cockroach? You can pretty much be certain that nothing it advocates will be in YOUR best interest.

  • Posted By: jath123 @ 04/14/2009 10:48:09 AM

    Sorry Mr. Gingrich, but so much of what you are saying here has people who actually understand the energy sector shaking their heads in disbelief. First of all, hydrogen is looking a lot like the next corn ethanol; meaning that so much energy is required to create it that the net energy benefits are minimal or actually negative. Offering $1 Billion for the production of a cost-effective hydrogen car therefore ignores the giant elephant in the room; What good is a cost effective car that runs on a cost prohibitive and environmentally unsound fuel? Any funding of hydrogen fuel cell development is worthless without concurrent development of efficient ways to produce hydrogen from water (not from petroleum). Remember folks, hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it is an energy CARRIER whose production requires the continuous input of external sources of materials and energy. In the end, electrification of the automobile is likely a much more cost and energy effective path for transportation modernization.

    Furthermore, if someone wants a flex fuel vehicle all they have to do is buy one of a dozen GM models with flex fuel engines that run on gasoline and E85. The problem with ethanol isn't that there are no engines available to run on it, the problem is that it is a fuel that is produced from corn with great energy and cost inefficiencies. Therefore any focus on expanding the use of ethanol should be a focus on developing effective cellulosic ethanol production methods. Similarly, a focus on the production of bio-diesel would reap huge benefits in the heavy transportation (i.e. trucking and freight train) sector without ANY need for changing engine types.

    In short, I find your list of solutions to be fairly ignorant of available technologies and actual market drivers. It is disconcerting that even when the GOP tries to offer actual solutions, they are still poorly thought through. This logical disconnect carries through to your comment about tort reform. This one is sheer comedy gold, given that law suits cost energy companies such a miniscule portion of their annual revenue that they don't have an effect on actual modernization efforts. Back to the drawing board with you, sir.

  • Posted By: vstillwell @ 04/14/2009 10:17:50 AM

    Mr. Gingrich has been wrong on everything, so why the hell should I take his opionion seriously. Remember those long lectures he gave on why women shouldn't serve in combat? Looks like they're doing a hell of a job today Newt! Remember those long lectures he gave on deregulating Wall Street? That worked out reall well didn't it Newt! Remember those long lectures he gave on the moral majority? You fooled the church crowd didn't ya Newt! Remember Newt complaigning about the tax rates of the 90s? Well look at the deficit Newt! Where did our budget surplus go? Remember Newt railing against health care reform? Have you been to the hospital lately and not used your government insurance Newt? I remember all of that garbage. Everything that comes out of that guy's mouth is crap!

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 04/14/2009 12:53:38 PM

      I agree. Newt's track record lately is utter ***. The G.O.P. position these days is equal parts ignorance and arrogance.

  • Posted By: LIMPbaugh @ 04/14/2009 10:52:45 AM

    Newt Gingrich thinks he can become president. What more do you have to know about him to understand he's not credible?

  • Posted By: memo2 @ 04/14/2009 9:47:00 AM

    The concern with Mr:Gingrich is they will lose alot of money along with his budy Mr:Bush that is way his acting like that, some people see this coming some don't,.
    The other issue with this small and economic vehicles, any body know what is the rate of safety? just I wonder if they will be visible for the 4x4's on the highway!......

  • Posted By: conor345 @ 04/14/2009 12:56:12 AM

    He could not be more right.. except about the hydrogen car.. that is almost as likely as a flying car, I mean get serious its not really a viable option

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 04/14/2009 12:18:21 AM

    I totally disagree with Gingrich. Currently there is no energy crisis. Infact there is surplus of energy that the price of oil has dropped to uneconomic levels; the oil has become "worthless". It is the correct policy of the US to refrain from exploiting its oil thus prventing damage to the environment and effectively forced the energy industry to find other sources of energy instead of oil and the risky nuclear power. Furthermore this has directly resulted in manufacturers to produce more energy efficient and environment friendly products.

    In they long run, the US will benefit most from this policy because by the time oil has depleted in other areas in the world, the US will still have a vast amount of oil on its soils thus the US will be the energy superpower. Gingrich lacks vison.

    By the way it is not the that the countries are hostile to the US, it is simply because the US was trying to steal their oil form them. Why can't the US buy oil like everbody else?

  • Posted By: amongold @ 04/14/2009 12:09:28 AM

    I live in a western state, work in industry and drive an American diesel truck but I do not share Mr. Gingrich's ideas of so called energy independence. I have personally witnessed the effects of "drill baby drill" and its not all high fives and new American jobs. In fact many ranchers are bearing the brunt of this mentality and many of our average citizens are not seeing the immediate benefits of the ever growing drilling territories. If you have not seen the burgeoning Johna gas fields or the western slope of Colorado I suggest googling it before you put us to the peril of the same old rhetoric. Air and water quality is being adversely affected and in the city I call my home we are told not to exercise in many of the winter months because our air quality is so poor. That my friends is a real problem. I am not saying end all drilling but we must move forward responsibly and consider future generations. Putting all political views aside answer me this; how is it possible we have have built an "international space station" where each different node has been built in a different country then assembled in space with no margin for error, but yet we can not solve our most basic domestic problems? There are smart enough people out there, but unfortunately they do not reside in congress. I say damn the tree huggers they gave green a bad name. A whole new sector of American ingenuity and jobs can grow if we just let go of some outdated ideas and views.

  • Posted By: amongold @ 04/13/2009 11:41:01 PM

    The same old rhetoric is getting a little tiresome. I live in a western state, work in industry, drive a large diesel truck, and generally vote republican, but I still love the outdoors. The idea that western states can save us from oil dependence is preposterous and nieve. For starters ,oil shale aside from the expense, will forever alter the natural environment. The desert is a fragile ecosystem and I have seen plenty of expansion in the oil and gas industry and not everybody is cashing as many people want us to believe. In fact ranchers are now bearing the brunt of the so called "drill baby drill" mentality. A nice tidbit for Mr. Gingrich, the city I live in tells us not to go outside in the winter for fear of contracting respiratory problems from the air we breathe. That is a REAL problem. I pose a final thought to all regardless of political standing; how can we assemble a "space Station", where each different node has been assembled in another country and the newest attachment has the ability to transform astronauts urine into drinkable water, but yet we can not figure a way to build a zero emission vehicle or better utilize solar technology. That my friends does add up. We are the greatest nation on earth and we should be in the fore front of creating new American jobs in a greener industrial revolution. Tree huggers be damned they gave this idea a bad name from the start.

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 04/13/2009 11:11:42 PM

    If we drop the Republic vs. Democrat and Save the Planet political nonsense and bring together Newt's ideas for better utilizing our resources and ideas for "Green technology", we might actually have a good energy policy that will work and we can implement over the next 20 years. Seriously, I want energy independence. But all I hear this political talk. Why aren't we drilling in ANWR AND seeing quality Green technology already? We need both and I'm eagerly awaiting both.

  • Posted By: jncc1701 @ 04/13/2009 10:32:27 PM

    Sometimes I wonder if Newt can do math. We are using a finite resource - where most of the reserves are not in the US (even if we kick out the tree huggers and drill baby drill) our grand children will be fighting over diminishing supplies in the Middle East. It does not add up.
    I am afraid Republicans are loosing their intellectual integrity and working backwards from rhetoric to policy - just opposing ideas because it is not orthodox GOP so called conservative then working backwards to have made up facts fit . And the nation will be the looser if this continues.

  • Posted By: James Lee @ 04/13/2009 9:42:18 PM

    Sometimes I am literally amazed at the extent of the hold environmentalists have attained upon Democrats.

  • Posted By: James Lee @ 04/13/2009 9:40:49 PM

    Sometimes I am really amazed at the extent of the hold on Democrat politicians that environmentalists have achieved.

  • Posted By: rkfairchild @ 04/13/2009 9:06:34 PM

    Mr. Gingrich as well as many other Republicans continue to try to push an energy policy that is not based on facts but on false concepts. The US began drawing down on its known reserves of Oil about 1972. Please go check the facts on this. It is very easy to do. Since then the US has been relying on foreign oil, to our detriment to fuel our growth. No matter how much US oil we tap it will equal less than 1/10 of the foreign oil we import.

    Bottom-line we much go to something else. Natural Gas is certainly an alternative. Coal at this point is not, because there is no such thing as clean coal. In the end we need to be moving to non-carbon based energy, using natural gas as a bridge. First, in our national interest we must get off foreign oil. Second, in our world interest we need to get off carbon-based fuel.

    Let's quit arguing and start innovating.

  • Posted By: Poyoukchow @ 04/13/2009 8:36:38 PM

    I wonder if Thomas Friedman thinks Newt is dumb about energy . . .

  • Posted By: Mimi13 @ 04/13/2009 8:07:59 PM

    Gingrich hasn't been right about anything since before he delivered divorce papers to his cancer-stricken wife in the hospital. The man does not have an intellectually honest thought in his head.

  • Posted By: bronzee @ 04/13/2009 6:52:56 PM

    Newt, your comment about 1300 additional dollars for each family, is false, has been repudiated, and for some reason, only those of the republican ilk either can't read or have truly taken a liking to just out and out lying. Further, I believe that the law that made the least amount of sense is the one the made it ILLEGAL for municipalities, governments, even our federal, to use solar on any of its buildings. What a ridiculous was of congressional authority! Why would you make it illegal?! I notice you don't mention that one.

    But, since I'm not on the side of the repubs, I am willing for those like you to continue to dig the hole you're already in. I am sorry though for the innocent and ignorant who will be mislead by you.

  • Posted By: LIMPbaugh @ 04/13/2009 6:10:21 PM

    Newt gingrich could get laid in a cathouse with a fist full of fifties.

    Here's all you need to know about newty to allow you to admit to yourself, he's playing with a full deck.

    He really thinks a majority of americans would elect him President.

    End of story.

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 04/13/2009 6:05:08 PM

    I mean, this is what gets me. The oil industry would be lionized the world over right now if it had actually made an effort to develop production methods that are less polluting, that put less carbon in the air and et cetera. Who doesn't love oil power? It's portable, it's dependable, it's powerful - and it's polluting. But the last one can be worked on, and could have been. And if the oil industry didn't have such an awful record of not doing so, and trampling over property owners' rights via lobbying for acquisition of development lands, and not looking out for the public interest in general, nobody would be complaining right now. Everybody would love oil and agree that we ought to go get more of it and support the drilling and et cetera. I would be right along with them if oil technology had been developed in more selfless ways.

    But it hasn't been. Big Oil, instead of a record of looking out for the people, has a record of looking out for its lobbyists and its share prices and its bottom lines, and screw any poor people anywhere in the world who happen to be downstream or downwind from a mine or a processing plant.

    And THAT is why people yell and scream at Newt for saying this kind of ***, and that is why people are going to continue to scream at him and the petrogiants. It blows my mind that people still don't seem to understand the opposition to development unless that development agrees not to salt the *** out of the Earth (metaphorically) in most places that it tries to operate.

  • Posted By: sinz52 @ 04/05/2009 11:20:15 AM

    The nuclear waste issue is a red herring. We knew how to dispose of waste way back in the 1960s and 1970s--by reprocessing. But then, Jimmy Carter unilaterally abandoned nuclear reprocessing as a way to "set a good example" for all those Third World states. They weren't impressed. India test-fired their first nuclear bomb on Carter's watch, followed by Pakistan. Let's resume nuclear reprocessing of spent nuclear waste. It's pretty obvious by now that North Korea and Iran aren't interested in America's "good example." They just want America destroyed.

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 04/06/2009 1:09:23 PM

      yeah good argument by reprocessing waste into nuclear weapons how long would that go on for?

      • Posted By: robdouth @ 04/09/2009 1:19:46 PM

        That's not the point. The fuel can be reprocessed in to nuclear plant fuel again and again and then when it is finally useless, the waste would be much less by comparison. Using recycling of partially spent fuel (which after one run through a nuclear reactor still holds over 90% of it's potency) we could have powered the entire United States for the last 50 years and only seen enough waste to cover a football field 3 times over. That's what environmentalists have gotten so pissy about.

        • Posted By: Vigilance @ 04/13/2009 5:57:53 PM

          If I could be sure nuclear power wouldn't turn into "Big Nuclear" the same way oil has turned into "Big Oil", I (and I'm liberal) would be onboard with it in a second. Yes, we DO have the technology to safely and reliably store waste for thousands of years. We CAN make safe plants, and even Three Mile Island here didn't cause any deaths the way Chernobyl did in Russia. We can ALSO mine for oil and coal in ways that don't denude the countryside and leave toxic residue everywhere - but we don't. Big industry inevitably seeks to get around regulation and shortcuts and tends to want to ignore the negative externalities of pollution costs to the greater community. And that is not anything I want to see as it relates to the issue of volatile nuclear reactors and waste disposal.

          To put it bluntly, the non-renewable fuel industry has shot itself in the foot over this in terms of gaining support from liberals and moderates who are willing to consider the possibility. It has done by amassing a terrible record of paying nothing more than lip support to environmental regulations or health problems caused by mining operations here and abroad. I still support the idea of nuclear power, but until someone can figure out a way to convince me we won't see the nuclear equivalent of Exxon or the other big petrocompanies in forty years if we do so, I'm going to continue to throw my support behind renewable energy instead.

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